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BuckWild03
07-19-2010, 10:33 AM
Appearing on KFNS 590 The Fan with Doug Vaughn this morning, free agent reliever Jason Isringhausen said he has a tentative plan to audition for the Reds tomorrow. Isringhausen added that he expects to hear back from the Cardinals this week and implied that his agent has been in contact with the Yankees, Rays, and Royals.

Isringhausen admitted it'd be weird to pitch for the Reds against the Cardinals this summer as the teams battle for the NL Central. Walt Jocketty's Reds already count Scott Rolen and Russ Springer as organization members. Izzy, of course, tallied 217 saves in seven seasons for the Cards from 2002-08. Isringhausen's last appearance in the Majors came in June of 2009 with the Rays, after which he went down for Tommy John surgery. He said he's currently throwing three times a week and working on a changeup. He expects he'd need a couple of weeks in the minors to get ready.

Really?

NorrisHopper30
07-19-2010, 10:34 AM
Ugh.

WildcatFan
07-19-2010, 10:40 AM
Just like Russ Springer, he would be a low-risk, high-reward pickup at RHP. Basically it's whoever he chooses to play for at the pro-rated minimum. I hope he chooses the Reds.

markymark69
07-19-2010, 10:45 AM
This is what you do when you don't want to trade your prospects. I'm intrigued by the potential move, low risk, possible high reward if Izzy has anything left in the tank.

redhat
07-19-2010, 10:54 AM
Think of it this way. Pickup up ex-Cards from the scrap heap is better than picking up ex-Cubs. :cool:

redsfanmia
07-19-2010, 10:59 AM
This and the Russ Springer addition tells me that Big Bob is not going to approve any additional payroll. Big Bob is not all about winning like he says he is.

redhat
07-19-2010, 11:50 AM
Big Bob is not all about winning like he says he is.
But I'll bet his knowledge of attendance and profit figures would blow your mind.

Most owners care far more about the bottom line than they do about winning.

Magdal
07-19-2010, 12:17 PM
The Reds FO can't be that dumb....he was washed up 2 years ago.

Hey Meat
07-19-2010, 01:04 PM
I trust Jocketty. Hopefully this works out to make the pen better.

DocRed
07-19-2010, 01:05 PM
It's just an audition...

TStuck
07-19-2010, 01:54 PM
I have absolutely no problem with this audition. Coming back off of TJ, so who knows? maybe that was why his numbers fell off the cliff beginning in 2008? No harm in taking a look - could be an Arthur Rhodes redux.

mikemo14
07-19-2010, 02:27 PM
In related news, after noticing the great shape that Pedro Borbon was in at the hall of fame ceremony the Reds have offered the 70 year old righthander a tryout.

13 in hall
07-19-2010, 03:09 PM
It's not that Bob is being cheap it's that the asking price in the trade market is too high right now. If you look at it 17 teams think they have a shot at the playoffs. That leaves 13 trade partners subtract the four division teams(Pitt, Hou, Chic, Mil) and the trade market is limited with all wanting the same thing, relief help. Not doubting a trade is made but it will be closer to the deadline. It dose not hurt to look at the guy maybe he will be better than before? Look at Rhodes after he came back from Tommy John surgery better than he was before or just as good.

ILoveWilly
07-19-2010, 03:59 PM
Russ Springer, now Isringhausen ... um .. why not Weathers?

Look at the stats and compare the three and stormy is better than both. But apparently, Weather "never crossed his mind" according to Walt. But hey, every other reliever who is way more washed up has, apparently.

brm7675
07-19-2010, 04:03 PM
The Reds FO can't be that dumb....he was washed up 2 years ago.

As a closer yes, but he won't be in that position, and that may mean a bit more ability to get the job done.

brm7675
07-19-2010, 04:04 PM
This and the Russ Springer addition tells me that Big Bob is not going to approve any additional payroll. Big Bob is not all about winning like he says he is.

No it tells me our GM is going to look at all available options and not go and trade away the farm in panic move just to add some short term bullpen arms like the Reds have done in the past.

rolenmvp
07-20-2010, 06:09 PM
former cardinal Jason Isringhausen has been offered. could be a good sign? or not, it's worth the risk, maybe he could help out the bullpen, after all, he is a veteran like rhodes.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

brm7675
07-20-2010, 06:21 PM
Depends on what the offer is, would rather go this route then trading away good young talent for bullpen arms.

rolenmvp
07-20-2010, 06:28 PM
izzy used to have some good stuff. I remember him with the cardinals, some games he would lose it but some games he was flat automatic out there.

brm7675
07-20-2010, 06:36 PM
He would also be used differently here then he was in St. Louis, which could impact his effectiveness now. In St. Louis he was the closer, here he won't be and would be used i bet to get out certain RH hitters.

NorrisHopper30
07-20-2010, 06:36 PM
Meh, sign him up.

The Voice of IH
07-20-2010, 08:41 PM
at least the Reds are showing a well organized plan right now, and getting things down.

DocRed
07-20-2010, 08:46 PM
Minor league contract? Who goes down if he comes...Smith? Then who goes down when Bailey and Harang come back?

ILoveWilly
07-20-2010, 09:37 PM
I'm guessing Owings time is limited since he never pitches. Hopefully he can after this rain delay tonight, but it's amazing we have a bullpen pitcher that we NEVER use when we're trying to improve the pen.

bellhead
07-20-2010, 09:46 PM
This is Uncle Walt using his magic again....

Think about this Izzy comes in pitches in the 6th and 7th innings mostly compliments Arthur Rhodes R-L-R 7,8,9....

He was good last year with Tampa before his elbow gave out on him. Tommy John surgery used to be career ending now its like blowing out your acl, you shut it down for 9 months and pitch again. If his velocity is there, then he'll get it done.

mattfeet
07-20-2010, 09:56 PM
This is Uncle Walt using his magic again....

Think about this Izzy comes in pitches in the 6th and 7th innings mostly compliments Arthur Rhodes R-L-R 7,8,9....

He was good last year with Tampa before his elbow gave out on him. Tommy John surgery used to be career ending now its like blowing out your acl, you shut it down for 9 months and pitch again. If his velocity is there, then he'll get it done.

Agreed. No harm in this signing at all, IMO. Id say likely pro-rated league minimum. If he doesn't perform, hardly anything lost.

-Matt

Griffey012
07-20-2010, 10:21 PM
This is a great move IMO, I never realized he had TJ surgery. That could be why he was so bad his last season with STL. Kinda like the way Dempster was so bad with us for a while and turned out he had been pitching with a shredded elbow for a while.

He could easily have a comparable type season that Percival had for STL in 2006 after his career was written off a bit.

bellhead
07-20-2010, 10:33 PM
His debut with Tampa last year...

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=116414

His career stats...
EASON▲ TEAM▲ W▼ L▼ ERA▼ G▼ GS▼ CG▼ SHO▼ SV▼ SVO▼ IP▼ H▼ R▼ ER▼ HR▼ HB▼ BB▼ SO▼ AVG▼ WHIP▼ GO/AO
95 NYM 9 2 2.81 14 14 1 0 0 93.0 88 29 29 6 2 31 55 .254 1.28 121
1996 NYM 6 14 4.77 27 27 2 1 0 171.2 190 103 91 13 8 73 114 .284 1.53 121
1997 NYM 2 2 7.58 6 6 0 0 0 29.2 40 27 25 3 1 22 25 .336 2.09 121
1999[+] 1 4 4.73 33 5 0 0 9 9 64.2 64 35 34 9 3 34 51 .258 1.52 1.01
2000 OAK 6 4 3.78 66 0 0 0 33 40 69.0 67 34 29 6 3 32 57 .252 1.43 1.13 133
2001 OAK 4 3 2.65 65 0 0 0 34 43 71.1 54 24 21 5 0 23 74 .203 1.08 1.14 133
2002 STL 3 2 2.48 60 0 0 0 32 37 65.1 46 22 18 0 1 18 68 .199 0.98 1.17 138
2003 STL 0 1 2.36 40 0 0 0 22 25 42.0 31 14 11 2 0 18 41 .200 1.17 1.39 138
2004 STL 4 2 2.87 74 0 0 0 47 54 75.1 55 27 24 5 2 23 71 .199 1.04 1.25 138
2005 STL 1 2 2.14 63 0 0 0 39 43 59.0 43 14 14 4 1 27 51 .202 1.19 1.55 138
2006 STL 4 8 3.55 59 0 0 0 33 43 58.1 47 25 23 10 3 38 52 .222 1.46 1.13 138
2007 STL 4 0 2.48 63 0 0 0 32 34 65.1 42 21 18 4 2 28 54 .179 1.07 1.04 138
2008 STL 1 5 5.70 42 0 0 0 12 19 42.2 48 28 27 5 5 22 36 .279 1.64 1.73 138
2009 TB 0 1 2.25 9 0 0 0 0 1 8.0 6 2 2 0 2 5 6 .200 1.38 0.64 139
CAREER 45 50 3.60 621 52 3 1 293 348 915.1 821 405 366 72 33 394 755 .239 1.33 1.20

I tend to think most closers hit their prime from 33 to 37 as their knowledge allows them a huge edge in one inning of pitching. I think it all depends on how is arm feels and whether he is hitting 92 to 94 in AAA before we bring him up. If he is then he 's back and we picked up a key player during the stretch.

This bullpen become very good as Bray, Logan, and Nick are your secondary guys.

Girevik
07-21-2010, 08:14 AM
Minor league contract? Who goes down if he comes...Smith? Then who goes down when Bailey and Harang come back?

He's had no spring training....he'll need a fair chunk of time in the minors. If he signs, my guess is that he may not come up until the September callups (or maybe just before to make him eligible for the playoffs). The bigger question is what do they do about the 40 man roster. They already have Dickerson on the 60-day DL who will have to have a spot cleared for when he comes back.

Hey Meat
07-21-2010, 09:10 AM
I'm guessing Owings time is limited since he never pitches. Hopefully he can after this rain delay tonight, but it's amazing we have a bullpen pitcher that we NEVER use when we're trying to improve the pen.

I think it is safe to say that Homer will be the long reliever when he gets back. Owings will be gone, not sure what his options are.

TheBigLebowski
07-21-2010, 09:26 AM
I would love it.

Fon Duc Tow
07-21-2010, 09:39 AM
Sounds like he won't be ready until near the end of the season anyway. Coco probably needs an insurance policy in case he melts down or runs out of gas. No risk-good reward, I like it.

Rockermann
07-21-2010, 03:56 PM
From Twitter - johnfayman: #Reds' Jocketty expects Isringhausen to sign later today.

muddie
07-21-2010, 06:17 PM
This is good stuff. Don't know where they would send him to begin with but I would hope he would grace Five County Stadium here in N.C.

brm7675
07-21-2010, 06:26 PM
They talked about lousiville to work with Ted Power. Unlike Springer he is going to need a bit longer to get into game shape. I would see him joining the team come Sept when rosters expand.


This is good stuff. Don't know where they would send him to begin with but I would hope he would grace Five County Stadium here in N.C.

Reverend Doo-Rag
07-22-2010, 11:18 AM
What's Bill Pulsipher up to these days?

The Voice of IH
07-22-2010, 11:29 AM
According to the enquirer, Isringhausen is reporting to Louisville!!!!!!!!!!!!

texasdave
07-22-2010, 11:36 AM
I heard Cowboy is asking for a tryout.

redsfanmia
07-22-2010, 11:37 AM
Is Jeff Shaw next? Dumpster diving at its best. The Cardinals are going to get Roy Oswalt and the Reds are getting Russ Springer and Jason Isringhausen. "We are just not going to lose anymore".

Krawhitham
07-22-2010, 11:54 AM
Is Jeff Shaw next? Dumpster diving at its best. The Cardinals are going to get Roy Oswalt and the Reds are getting Russ Springer and Jason Isringhausen. "We are just not going to lose anymore".

Because the reds need another starter for the long term, they only have like 9 as it stands now.

Leake
Wood
Volquez
Cueto
Arroyo

with
Harang
Homer
LeCure
Chapman
On the back burner

They need a stud rent-a-player, not someone with a horrible contract that will be around for a couple years

bleedsred
07-22-2010, 11:55 AM
I like the moves bringing in Springer and Isringhausen, if one sticks then the moves were well woth it. ESPN is reporting Bailey to report to Class A to begin working his way back into shape, sounds like Harang is TOAST. Imagine Bailey, Springer or Isringhausen, and Chapman in the pen down the strecth replacing Fisher and Smith.

Harang will not be traded for anything of value and I don't see any team in the race come looking to take his contract and buyout with his bad back. I look for him to be be bought out next season as he moves on to the west coast where he signs an incentive type minor league contract with Oakland, SD, Dodgers, or maybe even Seattle

markymark69
07-22-2010, 12:06 PM
Is Jeff Shaw next? Dumpster diving at its best. The Cardinals are going to get Roy Oswalt and the Reds are getting Russ Springer and Jason Isringhausen. "We are just not going to lose anymore".

I tend to you agree with you, but this is what happens when you don't want to trade your prospects. They can't stand pat in the bullpen and I'm sure they don't want to overpay for relief, so, right, wrong, or indifferent this is the only they can do.

KOBasinger
07-22-2010, 12:09 PM
Looks like he is officially going to Louisville. Nice deal. Hoping to see him come up in the next couple weeks. Good luck to him!

GIDP
07-22-2010, 12:18 PM
When the market is bare buying up all the stock isnt exactly a bad move. If this was a offseason signing and looked out as a big bring it would be one thing but they are searching for anyone who can help, and I'm pretty ok with it this late in the game.

redsfanmia
07-22-2010, 12:32 PM
Because the reds need another starter for the long term, they only have like 9 as it stands now.

Leake
Wood
Volquez
Cueto
Arroyo

with
Harang
Homer
LeCure
Chapman
On the back burner

They need a stud rent-a-player, not someone with a horrible contract that will be around for a couple years

LeCure is not a major league starting pitcher long term, maybe a bullpen arm. I agree that the Reds do not need Oswalt I am just saying the Cardinals are about to make a bold move and the Reds are diving in dumpsters looking for CHEAP reclamation projects, thus the Cardinals win the divison and the Reds go 82-80.

"We are just not going to lose anymore".

Magdal
07-23-2010, 09:53 PM
What bothers me is that Izzy went to the Cards 1st. He was Tony's MAN, yet they passed on him. They re-sign Suppan and Miles, 2 absolute bums released by bad teams and flat out pass on Jason??!

They must know something...

jmac
07-24-2010, 12:22 AM
What bothers me is that Izzy went to the Cards 1st. He was Tony's MAN, yet they passed on him. They re-sign Suppan and Miles, 2 absolute bums released by bad teams and flat out pass on Jason??!

They must know something...

They chose Suppan over Izzy because they needed help in their starting rotation.

Magdal
07-24-2010, 01:25 AM
They chose Suppan over Izzy because they needed help in their starting rotation.I'm pretty sure that he intends to be a closer again, and Franklin is by no means lights out. As far as middle relief for the Reds, if you think he can pitch more than 1 inning, which he can't, well....

His abilities will come out in the minors. I wish him all the luck.

Vottomatic
07-24-2010, 04:01 AM
He's taking Owings place. He'll be on a rotation of every 16 days. :D

Magdal
07-24-2010, 07:47 AM
He's taking Owings place. He'll be on a rotation of every 16 days. :DVotto...explain. I don't understand.

TheBigLebowski
07-24-2010, 08:12 AM
Votto...explain. I don't understand.

He's making mention of the fact that we almost never used Owings, even in obvious long-relief situations.

Magdal
07-24-2010, 08:24 AM
He's making mention of the fact that we almost never used Owings, even in obvious long-relief situations.I see...but Izzy is a burned out fossil. He will do nothing to help the team. He won't even MAKE the team!

Caveman Techie
07-24-2010, 11:55 AM
Very low risk move here. Possible reward of getting some experienced bullpen help down the road. I like it. Let Isringhausen get in shape at AAA and if he don't have it still don't bring him up.

bshall2105
07-24-2010, 12:29 PM
I see...but Izzy is a burned out fossil. He will do nothing to help the team. He won't even MAKE the team!

Didn't he pitch pretty well with Tampa last year before he blew out his arm?

Vottomatic
07-24-2010, 02:07 PM
Very low risk move here. Possible reward of getting some experienced bullpen help down the road. I like it. Let Isringhausen get in shape at AAA and if he don't have it still don't bring him up.

Agreed.

Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle. Maybe they don't.

It won't hurt to try. :thumbup:

RedsFanInBama
07-24-2010, 02:21 PM
I'd rather try and get a reliever or two this way than trade away a prospect for one, unless it's a real top-flight guy, and I'm not sure those guys are readily available. Those guys are way too volatile.

I still hope Walt is working to add a starter and a bat or two.

Vottomatic
07-24-2010, 02:23 PM
Joakim Soria is signed for $4M in '11 with a club option for '12. I'd love to obtain him and find a way, at some point, to unload Cordero.

RedsFanInBama
07-24-2010, 02:45 PM
Unloading Cordero seems like a long shot at best. Whether he's here or somewhere else, odds are we're going to be paying the bulk of his salary. So that tells me he's going to be here, closing through next season.