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redsof72
07-19-2010, 05:26 PM
An end to the Reds organizational career of Sean Watson, released unconditionally today.

mace
07-19-2010, 05:39 PM
Sometimes the numbers do tell the story. He was pitching better after his demotion to Lynchburg; but not better enough, I guess.

camisadelgolf
07-19-2010, 05:51 PM
Thanks, '72. It's a shame things didn't work out for Watson. Things looked very promising for him early in his career.

Is there any word on Terrell Young? The Reds supposedly paid $25,000 to bring him back to the organization, and I believe he was assigned to Billings before their season started, but we haven't heard of him doing anything since then. I know he has dealt with a shoulder injury, so maybe that's related to why we haven't seen him.

Benihana
07-19-2010, 06:59 PM
An end to the Reds organizational career of Sean Watson, released unconditionally today.

The first true bust of the Buckley era.

I'd like to see Junior Arias in Billings soon.

GIDP
07-19-2010, 07:02 PM
Thanks, '72. It's a shame things didn't work out for Watson. Things looked very promising for him early in his career.

Is there any word on Terrell Young? The Reds supposedly paid $25,000 to bring him back to the organization, and I believe he was assigned to Billings before their season started, but we haven't heard of him doing anything since then. I know he has dealt with a shoulder injury, so maybe that's related to why we haven't seen him.

I thought that was scratched because the Nats offered him back and he was injured. Basically the Nats were trying to skip out on paying an injured guy.

reds44
07-19-2010, 07:07 PM
Wow. Wasn't Watson a 2nd round pick?

GIDP
07-19-2010, 07:09 PM
Wow. Wasn't Watson a 2nd round pick?

yea in 2006 I think

dougdirt
07-19-2010, 08:07 PM
The first true bust of the Buckley era.

I'd like to see Junior Arias in Billings soon.

Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?

Kingspoint
07-19-2010, 08:13 PM
Anyone going to do a game thread?

RED VAN HOT
07-19-2010, 08:21 PM
Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?

That brings up a question I have for the zone. Is plate discipline emphasized equally throughout the minors, or, does it tend to take a back seat to aggressiveness and work on the swing at the lower levels?

camisadelgolf
07-19-2010, 08:22 PM
I thought that was scratched because the Nats offered him back and he was injured. Basically the Nats were trying to skip out on paying an injured guy.
It was in the first attempt (back in May or so of 2009), but in the off-season (somewhat close to opening day iIrc), he was offered back to the Reds again, and they accepted.

Benihana
07-19-2010, 08:57 PM
Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?

Plate discipline is less than critical when you're OPSing > 1.000 (with an OBP > .400).

dougdirt
07-19-2010, 09:17 PM
Plate discipline is less than critical when you're OPSing > 1.000 (with an OBP > .400).

Except when it says you won't continue to do that and that pitchers are doing a good job of fooling you quite often at the lowest level. He might punish mistakes, but he is abolsutely being fooled often right now.

Benihana
07-19-2010, 09:31 PM
Except when it says you won't continue to do that and that pitchers are doing a good job of fooling you quite often at the lowest level. He might punish mistakes, but he is abolsutely being fooled often right now.

If batting .372 is "abolsutely (sic) being fooled right now" then I hope the Reds can assemble a team of morons.

dougdirt
07-19-2010, 10:26 PM
If batting .372 is "abolsutely (sic) being fooled right now" then I hope the Reds can assemble a team of morons.

Except that over the long haul, there is no way he can sustain anything close to that with 7-8 times more strikeouts than walks. And when you are striking out 7-8 times more than you walk, you are absolutely being fooled.

KoryMac5
07-19-2010, 10:52 PM
Watson seemed to find some control the first few seasons in the minors, unfortunately his last few seasons he reverted back to what plagued him with the Vols. I would imagine someone will take a shot on him.

TRF
07-20-2010, 11:45 AM
Can I ask what about Junior Arias's plate discipline says he should sniff the Pioneer League this season?

What about Billy Hamilton's 2009 suggested he was ready for Billings this year? The kid was an out machine in the GCL. Sometimes kids talent exceeds their skills. I don't think Junior Arias should be in the Pioneer league this year. But not exactly for the same reason you do. I think with a kid like Arias he still has some adjusting to do that Hamilton doesn't. Arias does seem to be the better hitter, certainly more power, but Hamilton had to deal with a tougher hitters league in the GCL as opposed to the hitter friendly AZL. That said, the next HR Hamilton hits as a Mustang will be his first professional HR. Kid has zero power, but that isn't his game.

I think Arias would struggle a bit in the Pioneer league but eventually adjust. I don't see the need to rush an 18 year old kid. 19 in the Pioneer league is still pretty young.

bellhead
07-20-2010, 11:52 AM
Billy's game...

I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.

GIDP
07-20-2010, 12:14 PM
Billy's game...

I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.

Power will probably develop unless hes Luis Castillo which given his speed wouldnt be a bad major league player, and depending on his D could be a very good major league palyer.

TRF
07-20-2010, 12:16 PM
Billy's game...

I am perfectly willing to accept a guy who doesn't hit home runs at either 2nd or SS or CF. All he has to do is play GG defense, lead off, OBS at > .400, 150+ hits a year, and steal 30+ bases a year. If he is doing this I could care less about him hitting one HR his whole major league career.

yeah, I'd like it to be 1976 too. Name a single MLB SS or 2B that does this without some power component to his game? Andrus and..... I got nothing.

of the 21 2B that qualify for a batting title, only 1 will steal 30 bases this year. Chone Figgins, and one other might, Ryan Theriot. BP is going to fall short, but might steal 20. Not a single 2B fits your criteria of anything near a .400 OBP without power except Kinsler, and he's been hurt this year. He'll still finish with 10+ HR's

At SS, that number increases to 3 that more than likely will, and 6 total that could steal 30. Half of those will have double digit HR's, with Ramirez maybe hitting 30 if he gets hot. Only Andrus is devoid of power. Only Furcal comes close to a .400 OBP (.391). Ramirez is second at .377, and Andrus 3rd at .358

CF is a different animal, as many as 17 guys with a shot at 30 SB's. 11 of those will finish with 10+ HR's, 6 of those with 20+ HR's.


Your expectations of what a MI is, are well, unrealistic.

Gallen5862
07-20-2010, 03:54 PM
More signings and Roster moves from Baseball America. 46th round draft pick Patrick Quinn among the signings.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=9577

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: OF Drew Poulk (NDFA—North Carolina State)
Draft pick signed: RHP Pat Quinn (46)
Released: RHP Jon Adkins, LHP Derrick Lowery
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP Mark Serrano
Reinstated from DL: SS Jake Kahaulelio, OF Sean Conner

Drafted as a first baseman last year from Young Harris (Ga.) JC, Derrick Lowery tried his hand at pitching before drawing his release. He gave up nine runs on 12 hits over 5 1/3 innings in the Rookie-level Arizona League.

OnBaseMachine
07-28-2010, 05:07 AM
From the Billings Gazette:


DeShields announced the promotion of starting pitcher Clayton Shunick to Dayton, the Cincinnati Reds’ Single-A affiliate in Ohio.

Shunick, a fifth-round draft choice in 2008 making his second stop in Billings, missed all of last season following Tommy John surgery but went 3-0 with a 3.80 ERA in five July starts to earn a promotion.

“Good for him. That’s really what we’re all about down here,” DeShields said. “We’re not trying to keep guys here. It’s all about getting guys to the next level. He’s made the adjustments he needed to make and he got the call.”


http://billingsgazette.com/sports/baseball/professional/minor/pioneer-league/mustangs/article_997e9058-9a10-11df-b1b3-001cc4c002e0.html

GIDP
07-28-2010, 10:25 AM
Clayton Shunick was a pick I really wanted to see the last few years. Hopefully that arm stays on.

muddie
07-28-2010, 02:10 PM
The Cincinnati Reds have made one player transaction impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to tonight's series opener against the Jacksonville Suns.

OF Sean Danielson has been released. Danielson hit .258 with one home run, eight RBI and nine stolen bases in 79 games for the Mudcats. Danielson had signed with the Reds last December after spending the previous two seasons in the Boston Red Sox organization.

Danielson had been placed on the temporary inactive list over the weekend.

cinreds21
07-28-2010, 07:23 PM
My first guess is he asked for it since they put him on the TI list. I'll find out though.

muddie
07-29-2010, 01:13 PM
The Cincinnati Reds have made a set of player moves impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to Thursday night's game with the Jacksonville Suns.

RHP Daryl Thompson has been placed on the disabled list for the second time this season, retroactive to July 25th, while RHP Matt Klinker has been reassigned to Carolina.

Thompson, who pitched four innings in Montgomery on July 24th, was scheduled to start Friday night against the Suns. Klinker, who compiled a 4-1 record at Triple-A Louisville, returns to the Southern League where he remains the ERA leader (1.75) and will start in Thompson's place on Friday.


DISABLE: RHP Thompson, Daryl (To DL, retro 7/25)
ADD: RHP Klinker, Matt (From Louisville)

muddie
07-29-2010, 01:16 PM
The Reds really need to make a decision on Thompson. His last three starts have been three or four innings each. The present plan isn't working.

cinreds21
07-29-2010, 01:46 PM
It might just be a paper move. I'll find out tonight though for sure.

cinreds21
07-29-2010, 02:10 PM
Nvm, it's not a paper move. DT expected to only miss one start, according to Mudcats radio twitter.

Mario-Rijo
07-29-2010, 06:18 PM
Watson seemed to find some control the first few seasons in the minors, unfortunately his last few seasons he reverted back to what plagued him with the Vols. I would imagine someone will take a shot on him.

Well his control problems in the upper minors were a result of no one offering at his one good pitch (Knuckle Curve) that he couldn't throw for a strike if they didn't. Those kids in Dayton were hacking away on it. He just couldn't/didn't try to develop himself, and he wasn't in the best of shape either. He always looked like a young Burba or Mark Portugal to me. I guess someone in development/reds brass early on wanted him to lose some lbs. and he may have for a short time but not sure that continued. I just don't believe the kid had the discipline to reach/play major league ball.

cinreds21
07-29-2010, 07:21 PM
Oh and forgot to mention this last night, Danielson did not ask for his release, the Reds did it.

muddie
07-30-2010, 04:57 AM
The Cincinnati Reds have made a pair of player moves impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to tonight's game against the Jacksonville Suns.

OF Felix Perez has been placed on the seven-day disabled list with an oblique injury suffered last night making a spectacular running catch in right-centerfield. Perez crashed against the wall just following the catch to rob John Otness of an extra base hit. Meanwhile, IF Eric Eymann has been activated from the disabled list and will take the roster spot of Perez. Eymann has been on the DL since July 17th with a right thumb sprain.


ACTIVATE: IF Eymann, Eric (From DL)
DISABLE: OF Perez, Felix (To DL, Oblique)

cinreds21
07-30-2010, 05:11 AM
Beat you to it :) haha

muddie
07-31-2010, 06:05 AM
The Cincinnati Reds have made a pair of player moves impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to Saturday night's game against the Jacksonville Suns.

RHP Jesus Delgado has been promoted to Triple-A Louisville, while RHP Ruben Medina has been reassigned to Carolina from High-A Lynchburg.

The Mudcats roster remains at the Southern League limit of 24 players.


ADD: RHP Medina, Ruben (From Lynchburg)
DELETE: RHP Delgado, Jesus (To Louisville)

muddie
07-31-2010, 12:41 PM
Todd Frazier's brother, Jeff, has been called up from Toledo by the Tigers.

redsmetz
09-22-2010, 02:49 PM
Cincinnati Reds
Signed: OF Drew Poulk (NDFA—North Carolina State)
Draft pick signed: RHP Pat Quinn (46)
Released: RHP Jon Adkins, LHP Derrick Lowery
Placed on 7-day DL: RHP Mark Serrano
Reinstated from DL: SS Jake Kahaulelio, OF Sean Conner

C Trent retweeted this from Jon Adkins:

I've taken a job with the Boston Red Sox as the Ohio Valley Area Scout. I had a great run as a player and loved every min. Thanks to all