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savafan
07-23-2010, 04:07 PM
Just wanted to point out for anyone interested, that Reds pitcher Mike Leake now has a Twitter account.

http://twitter.com/MikeLeake44

reds44
07-23-2010, 04:08 PM
If I get to 100,000 followers and 50percent are females bronson will join. Start following!
LOL.

OesterPoster
07-23-2010, 04:27 PM
Geez, he had 800-some followers when I started following him this morning, and now he's up to 1875.

Unassisted
07-23-2010, 08:48 PM
For the sake of future trivia answers, this is the first Reds major leaguer on Twitter, correct?

savafan
07-23-2010, 08:52 PM
For the sake of future trivia answers, this is the first Reds major leaguer on Twitter, correct?

According to the official list of major league baseball players on Twitter, that would be correct.

CTA513
07-23-2010, 10:12 PM
For the sake of future trivia answers, this is the first Reds major leaguer on Twitter, correct?

Nix has a twitter account that Tank Johnson had him setup but I don't think he uses it.

savafan
07-23-2010, 11:51 PM
Nix has a twitter account that Tank Johnson had him setup but I don't think he uses it.

You missed the part where Unassisted said major leaguer ;)

OesterPoster
07-24-2010, 09:18 AM
Now we have another:

https://twitter.com/mrLeCure

smith288
07-24-2010, 09:31 AM
Again. Major leaguer. Ha

OnBaseMachine
07-28-2010, 03:01 PM
Matt Maloney is now on twitter.

http://twitter.com/mo22maloney

mdccclxix
07-28-2010, 03:51 PM
Workout at 6pm at the field. Going to enjoy some shagging and taking some deep. 11:10 AM Jul 15th via web

Ahh, life in the bigs. Makes me jealous.

OesterPoster
07-28-2010, 03:53 PM
That sounds like something Austin Powers would do.

Big Klu
07-28-2010, 04:11 PM
Workout at 6pm at the field. Going to enjoy some shagging and taking some deep. 11:10 AM Jul 15th via web


That sounds like something Austin Powers would do.


YEAH, BABY!!!

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee218/CarObsession/austin_powers_withthetwins.jpg

Nasty_Boy
07-28-2010, 05:27 PM
Aren't those Fukudome's sisters?

fearofpopvol1
08-30-2010, 12:38 AM
Not Leake related and probably not worthy of a new thread, but as many of you know, musician Nick Lachey is from Cincy and is a big Reds fan. He's been tweeting quite a bit about the Reds lately.

http://twitter.com/NickSLachey

sabometrics
08-30-2010, 03:35 AM
He sang take me out the ballgame on Saturday night at the ballpark if my memory serves me correctly.

I'm waiting for another FACT commercial that does nothing but run down the reasons to come to the ballpark.

OnBaseMachine
09-05-2010, 02:26 AM
Corky Miller is now on twitter!

http://twitter.com/Corky_Miller

Tom Servo
09-05-2010, 04:41 AM
Corky Miller is just a real man's man.

SunDeck
09-05-2010, 10:07 AM
I want to watch him pitch and wish him well, but I draw the line at caring about what he has to say 24/7. Or anyone else, for that matter.

mth123
09-05-2010, 10:28 AM
I want to watch him pitch and wish him well, but I draw the line at caring about what he has to say 24/7. Or anyone else, for that matter.

Amen.

Tony Cloninger
09-05-2010, 11:19 AM
Is that what twitter is all about? Just writing what is going on minute for minute during the day?

I think Cheech and Chong did that on one of there albums in the 70's.

What I did on my summer vacation.
I woke up.....went to look for a job....stood at the corner, waiting to look for a job. I did not find a job.
The next day....woke up. Went to look for a job. Stood at the corner. I did not find a job.

Unassisted
09-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Is that what twitter is all about? Just writing what is going on minute for minute during the day?
Navel-gazing and activity reports are what blogs were like in 2005. There's not so much of that these days.

In my area, a lot of Twitter traffic is young adults bragging about how drunk they got/will get and what they drank/will be drinking to get that way. There's also a fair amount of fawning at celebrities with Twitter, which amounts to begging them to make a public appearance/tour stop in our city. Kim Kardashian seems to attract a lot of that, as did Miley Cyrus before she gave up Twitter earlier this year.

If Leake's account is well used, hopefully it will be full of things like links to pictures of locker room hijinks or anecdotes from teammates.

Based on my experience, I suggest that RedsZoners unfamiliar with Twitter, yet wanting to fit in, start out by sending tweets Mike Leake's way to let him know what you drank during each game. :beerme: Then you could use a few tweets a week to ask him when he'll be visiting your neck of the woods. I bet he'll love that. ;)

sivman17
09-05-2010, 07:07 PM
I'm not sure why Nick Lachey constantly refers to the team as "my Reds."

Found that a little odd.

Unassisted
10-28-2010, 04:24 PM
He sure does tweet a lot about going to a certain jewelry store that sells Fossil watches.

edabbs44
10-28-2010, 07:49 PM
I'm not sure why Nick Lachey constantly refers to the team as "my Reds."

Found that a little odd.

Hmmmmm...you follow Lachey?

Brutus
10-28-2010, 07:56 PM
Hmmmmm...you follow Lachey?

.......


not that there's anything wrong with that.

edabbs44
10-28-2010, 10:38 PM
He sure does tweet a lot about going to a certain jewelry store that sells Fossil watches.

He needs to upgrade his watch if this is the case.

HeatherC1212
10-28-2010, 11:34 PM
Mike tweets about a lot more than Fossil watches (and if I remember right, he met some Reds fans at a store a while back and it appeared to me that he was trying to drum up some business for their store by mentioning it) and personally I really like that he tries to interact with the fans there. He asks about things to do in Cincy, sports teams, TV shows, and recently was asking who everyone was rooting for in the world series. He seems like a good guy and I'm glad he didn't stop tweeting once the season ended. He also replies to people from time to time (I got a reply back near the end of the season and a friend of mine did too). :)

I assume Nick Lachey calls them 'his Reds' in the same way I call them 'my Reds'. They're the team I grew up, the team I constantly cheer for, and the team I will always root for during the season. He's still a Cincy guy and I like that he hasn't totally disregarded where he comes from just because he got famous.

BCubb2003
10-29-2010, 02:56 PM
Nick Lachey was involved in an ownership group that lost out to Castellini and now he's part owner of the Tacoma Rainers.

Benihana
10-29-2010, 02:57 PM
Nick Lachey was involved in an ownership group that lost out to Castellini and now he's part owner of the Tacoma Rainers.

Which ownership group? Not the Mayerson group...

OnBaseMachine
01-21-2011, 04:37 PM
Brandon Phillips is now on twitter.

http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP

Unassisted
01-21-2011, 04:43 PM
Brandon Phillips is now on twitter.

http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP (http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP)And 5 minutes after you post this, you get a shout out (http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP/status/28552956433408000) from BP. :cool:

He posts to Twitter a lot. This should be interesting, if it's really him.

OnBaseMachine
01-21-2011, 04:50 PM
And 5 minutes after you post this, you get a shout out (http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP/status/28552956433408000) from BP. :cool:

He posts to Twitter a lot. This should be interesting, if it's really him.

LOL, I just saw that.

It's really him. Michael Anderson, a Reds PR manager, gave him a shout out earlier and that's how I found BP's twitter account. Plus, his followers include Jamie Ramsey, MLB, Jason Heyward, and Lisa Braun (also a Reds employee).

reds44
01-21-2011, 05:46 PM
Brandon Phillips is now on twitter.

http://twitter.com/DatDudeBP
Oh this should be good lol

OnBaseMachine
01-21-2011, 08:24 PM
I don't care what anyone says, Brandon Phillips is a great dude. He and I were just tweeting back and forth for about 10-15 minutes about bowling.

Screwball
01-21-2011, 08:40 PM
I don't care what anyone says, Brandon Phillips is a great dude. He and I were just tweeting back and forth for about 10-15 minutes about bowling.

I think you two should have a bowl-off with his Reds contract on the line. That way, when you win, we can all talk about the day "OnBaseMachine will come off the books." Unless, of course, you get traded before then...

OnBaseMachine
01-21-2011, 08:45 PM
I think you two should have a bowl-off with his Reds contract on the line. That way, when you win, we can all talk about the day "OnBaseMachine will come off the books." Unless, of course, you get traded before then...

:laugh:

That's good stuff.

camisadelgolf
01-21-2011, 09:21 PM
BP totally has a target on his back for his supposed flashiness, but in person, you'll be hard-pressed to find someone more enjoyable.

11larkin11
01-22-2011, 01:44 AM
I love BP, but this one could end with some controversy. We didn't hear a lot from BP last year because of his shunning John Fay, but when we did finally hear from him, we know what happened the next day. Now, with him able to post in the heat of the moment?

2011: Year of the Brawl

Razor Shines
01-22-2011, 02:49 AM
I don't care what anyone says, Brandon Phillips is a great dude. He and I were just tweeting back and forth for about 10-15 minutes about bowling.

Just hope he never reads your sig.

WebScorpion
01-22-2011, 04:44 PM
Yeah, Brandon Phillips uncensored...that's exactly what we need this year. :rolleyes:


:ughmamoru

Homer Bailey
01-22-2011, 06:20 PM
Don't blame the medium, blame the messenger.

reds44
01-25-2011, 04:56 AM
I love when people treat grown men like they're children. I think Brandon will be just fine.

fearofpopvol1
01-25-2011, 07:39 PM
Dudes...Brandon Philipps' Twitter page is the most enjoyable thing ever. He is tweeting literally everyone that tweets him and is answering questions and doing contests. The comments are sincere and refreshing. I'm a big BP fan.

OnBaseMachine
01-26-2011, 12:20 AM
The Reds No. 2 rated prospect, Billy Hamilton, a SS/2B, is now on twitter. Follow him @b_ham_3.

http://twitter.com/b_ham_3

savafan
01-26-2011, 12:30 AM
I just want to know when BP is going to change his name to Quatro.

TheNext44
01-26-2011, 01:08 AM
He tweets all the time. I'm looking forward to reading his tweets in between pitches. :)

fearofpopvol1
01-26-2011, 01:27 AM
Speaking of minor league players, Tucker Barnhart is on Twitter as well...

http://twitter.com/Tucker_Barnhart

Unassisted
01-26-2011, 03:03 PM
He tweets all the time. I'm looking forward to reading his tweets in between pitches. :)Some of BP's tweets are even in English. :D

Unassisted
01-26-2011, 03:05 PM
It's really him. Michael Anderson, a Reds PR manager, gave him a shout out earlier and that's how I found BP's twitter account. Plus, his followers include Jamie Ramsey, MLB, Jason Heyward, and Lisa Braun (also a Reds employee).
Fay waited about 5 days before he acknowledged that BP was on Twitter. When a mutual follower asked him what took so long, he said that he waited until the Reds verified it officially.

Redsfan320
01-26-2011, 03:32 PM
Speaking of minor league players, Tucker Barnhart is on Twitter as well...

Billy Hamilton, as linked to in Barnhart's (http://twitter.com/b_ham_3)

320

camisadelgolf
01-26-2011, 03:35 PM
Here are a few more minor leaguers:
http://twitter.com/#!/JCSulbaran (last updated in July, '09)
http://twitter.com/#!/Freebird2828 (half his tweets are hitting on girls)
http://twitter.com/#!/LeeTabor (sparingly active, good account)

fearofpopvol1
02-07-2011, 12:09 AM
DatDudeBP My next contest is for a trip to AZ for spring training for two. Thank you followers and hopefully i will be meeting you there. Go Reds.....

Pretty awesome.

fearofpopvol1
02-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Can we change the title to "Reds on Twitter" or something?

Brandon Phillips has been posting some AWESOME pictures on twitter of various Reds either on or off the field.

OnBaseMachine
03-26-2011, 01:29 PM
Johnny Bench is now on twitter. Very surprising, but it's been confirmed by the Reds.

@Johnny_Bench5

http://twitter.com/Johnny_Bench5

Unassisted
03-26-2011, 11:18 PM
Johnny Bench is now on twitter. Very surprising, but it's been confirmed by the Reds.

@Johnny_Bench5

http://twitter.com/Johnny_Bench5 (http://twitter.com/Johnny_Bench5)Not as surprising as seeing #14 on the background of his Twitter page.

Speaking of Charley Hustle, I'm surprised he hasn't yet found his way onto this medium to hawk his wares. I would have bet that he'd be on here before Bench.

Unassisted
04-02-2011, 12:08 PM
Future Reds skipper Corky Miller is on Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/Corky_Miller

The Voice of IH
04-02-2011, 12:27 PM
I for some reason thought that the Joe Morgan account was real, I followed then read some of his stuff. stupid me.

Still like Crypenter account tho.

OnBaseMachine
04-07-2011, 11:52 AM
Tom Hume:

http://twitter.com/THume47

Unassisted
04-07-2011, 12:10 PM
Sean Casey: http://twitter.com/TheMayorsOffice

fearofpopvol1
04-15-2011, 01:52 AM
Brandon Phillips continues to be awesome. He went to the movies on a day off and invited Reds fans on twitter and footed the bill. Stubbs came with him too. What other players in baseball (especially of Brandon's stature) do this?

DatDudeBP Hummm... What 2 do today?I know... I'm goin 2 the movies! So #BPFansShawty who wants 2 join me? #MoviesOnDeck I'm thinkin "Hanna" tonight!

DatDudeBP #BEPNews Just got calls from my boys! So, we watchin Hanna at 7:50pm at Newport on the Levee! Be there before me and I gotcha! #MoviesOnDeck

DatDudeBP Waiting on Stubbs! Im outside at valet RT @alrightguy31: @datdudebp at levee waiting on you bro where you at???

DatDudeBP At the movies with Stubbs, Corey, Zack, and my #BPFansShawty having a great time just hope the movie is good also... Hanna #OnDeck

Fiddy09 Big thanks to @DatDudeBP for the movie #Hanna.. It wasn't a bad one. Him and Stubby are some cool dudes ! #BPFanShawty #GoReds

OnBaseMachine
04-15-2011, 03:59 AM
Barry Larkin has joined twitter!

http://twitter.com/BLarkin_ESPN

LvJ
04-15-2011, 07:37 PM
Brandon Phillips continues to be awesome. He went to the movies on a day off and invited Reds fans on twitter and footed the bill. Stubbs came with him too. What other players in baseball (especially of Brandon's stature) do this?

DatDudeBP Hummm... What 2 do today?I know... I'm goin 2 the movies! So #BPFansShawty who wants 2 join me? #MoviesOnDeck I'm thinkin "Hanna" tonight!

DatDudeBP #BEPNews Just got calls from my boys! So, we watchin Hanna at 7:50pm at Newport on the Levee! Be there before me and I gotcha! #MoviesOnDeck

DatDudeBP Waiting on Stubbs! Im outside at valet RT @alrightguy31: @datdudebp at levee waiting on you bro where you at???

DatDudeBP At the movies with Stubbs, Corey, Zack, and my #BPFansShawty having a great time just hope the movie is good also... Hanna #OnDeck

Fiddy09 Big thanks to @DatDudeBP for the movie #Hanna.. It wasn't a bad one. Him and Stubby are some cool dudes ! #BPFanShawty #GoReds:beerme: Awesome.

And he's taking Q&A about Volquez today. :lol:

camisadelgolf
06-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Hopefully this doesn't break the terms of service agreement, but I just had to share this tweet from Matt Maloney:

nicklsax: @mo56maloney how many times per road trip do you cheat on your wife? #GoBrewers

mo56maloney: @nicklsax Ask your mom... #GOREDS

LvJ
06-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Hopefully this doesn't break the terms of service agreement, but I just had to share this tweet from Matt Maloney::laugh:

Brutus
06-01-2011, 05:42 PM
Hopefully this doesn't break the terms of service agreement, but I just had to share this tweet from Matt Maloney:

I lost my water on that one. Flat out awesome lol

The Operator
06-01-2011, 05:48 PM
Hopefully this doesn't break the terms of service agreement, but I just had to share this tweet from Matt Maloney:AWESOME. :laugh:

11larkin11
06-05-2011, 12:48 PM
Dontrelle has now joined Twitter.

http://twitter.com/#!/D_Train35

OldXOhio
06-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Dontrelle has now joined Twitter.

http://twitter.com/#!/D_Train35

Why the congrats for Volquez? Has he unoffically been recalled?

cinreds21
06-05-2011, 03:12 PM
Probably so.

OnBaseMachine
06-17-2011, 04:15 PM
Johnny Cueto has joined twitter! He's already been verified too.

Give him a follow @JohnnyCueto

http://twitter.com/JohnnyCueto

reds44
06-17-2011, 04:18 PM
Johnny Cueto has joined twitter! He's already been verified too.

Give him a follow @JohnnyCueto

http://twitter.com/JohnnyCueto
This should be good lol

Ghosts of 1990
06-17-2011, 04:51 PM
Wonder if Bruce or Votto will ever join twitter.

OesterPoster
06-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Um, yeah. Hope he's prepared to get a ton of crap from Cardinal losers.

Big Klu
06-17-2011, 09:13 PM
Johnny Cueto has joined twitter! He's already been verified too.

Give him a follow @JohnnyCueto

http://twitter.com/JohnnyCueto

Will it all be in Spanish?

Ghosts of 1990
06-17-2011, 10:47 PM
Jamie Ramsey said that's not really cueto

The Voice of IH
06-18-2011, 12:01 AM
Jamie changed his mind and said that it was.

Ghosts of 1990
06-18-2011, 01:04 AM
Jamie changed his mind and said that it was.

It was weird of him to say this:

I just spoke to Johnny Cueto and he claims thats not his Twitter account.

Then somehow retract it.

I enjoy his blog. But the man has too much time on his hands me thinks.

cinreds21
06-18-2011, 07:54 PM
So wait, is it his or not? lol

OnBaseMachine
06-18-2011, 08:03 PM
So wait, is it his or not? lol

Yep, it's been confirmed by the Reds.

savafan
07-02-2011, 02:32 PM
Barry Larkin: http://twitter.com/#!/BLarkin_ESPN

Johnny Bench: http://twitter.com/#!/Johnny_Bench5

WebScorpion
07-04-2011, 05:27 PM
It was weird of him to say this:

I just spoke to Johnny Cueto and he claims thats not his Twitter account.

Then somehow retract it.

I enjoy his blog. But the man has too much time on his hands me thinks.
He probably spoke to Volquez about Cueto's account and Edinson said it wasn't his. :laugh:

camisadelgolf
07-21-2011, 05:53 AM
Here's a tweet from Yonder Alonso:

YonderalonsoU Yonder Alonso
“@seifreak22: @YonderalonsoU I understand not answering, but can you answer if u want to stay with cincy?”100% yes

OesterPoster
07-21-2011, 07:51 AM
Yonder has tweeted in the past that he really, really wants to hit in GABP. And who the heck wouldn't?

mdccclxix
11-09-2011, 05:49 PM
charliesheen Charlie Sheen
Yonder! There you are my man!! RT @YonderalonsoU @charliesheen 5,210,281 not bad...can i borrow about 100K to crush everyone on the Reds!!??

757690
01-28-2012, 11:17 PM
Reds confirm #JayABruce is really Jay Bruce.

757690
08-08-2012, 09:43 PM
One of Brandon's best:


Brandon Phillips (@DatDudeBP)
8/8/12 3:52 PM
Are u serious? That's like me asking you does having a small #RICHARD bother u RT @mize161: @DatDudeBP #RealTalk does losing bother u?

powersackers
08-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Well I fear that after tonight the Reds and their staff will be muzzled. We may never see another tweet from @DatDudeBP. @DaRedsWinPOW baits/trolls and name calls then tattles to deadspin.com.

Then Brandon calls fair weather fans Richard Riders.

This a day after Billy Hamilton catches some crap for calling Usain Bolt a Fool (unfairly or not). Not a good 48 hours of Twitter for the Reds. Soon twitter will be nothing but cliche's cut and pasted by the Agent or Team. Allowing the players and staff to engage fans is turning out to be bad for the career.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 12:54 AM
http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?tag=media-meltdowns



Jamie Ramsey is the Reds' assistant director of media relations, and he's very protective of his team, like any good p.r. person. However, Cincinnati has had kind of a rough week and was on its way to losing its fourth straight game. That's when Ramsey started getting into it on Twitter with some Reds fans. Eventually, things got a little out of hand. Let's take a look at how things unraveled over the course of a couple hours.

reds44
08-09-2012, 01:05 AM
Look, I'm not excusing Jamie for what he did. That is something you cannot do, and if he gets canned for it (he won't) it wouldn't be unjustified. But there are some real (butt)hat Reds fans on twitter.

Tom Servo
08-09-2012, 01:08 AM
I don't have a problem at all with Jamie talking back to a vulgar a-hole on Twitter who then, as powersackers put it, turns around tattles. But I'm not in charge of the Reds.

powersackers
08-09-2012, 01:09 AM
DaRedsWinPOW just moments ago locked his Twitter. He was obviously getting overwhelmed with mostly negative attention.

camisadelgolf
08-09-2012, 02:03 AM
A MESSAGE FROM THE AUTHOR

It is with a terrible sense of regret that I come to you tonight to apologize for my embarrssing inability to control my emotions on Twitter and more importantly, my failure to properly represent myself as an employee of the Cincinnati Reds.

As you may have saw (or read), I sent an inappropriate "direct message" to a person who tweeted some pretty nasty things to me. I shouldn't have done it and I'm sorry to those of you I've let down. I also want to apologize to the Reds who for years have trusted me with the keys to @Jamieblog and Better Off Red. They have every reason to feel betrayed tonight by my poor judgment. The Cincinnati Reds organization has worked so hard in developing a culture within the company called the "Reds Way." My actions today are a complete failure to that development.

To those of you who know me or have "followed" me for a while, you know that no one is more loyal to this team than me. "Expect good news" has always been the blog's mantra, more so to get through the rough patches than during a first-place division-title run. In the end, however, that loyalty and my failure to act like a civilized adult is basically what has me in this unfortunate predicament.

Moving forward, I'm terminating the @jamieblog Twitter account effective immediately.

I'm humiliated and I'm sorry.

Jamie
http://i.qkme.me/3p3m40.jpg

powersackers
08-09-2012, 02:09 AM
There you have it, as I predicted, muzzle number 1. It's sad.

guttle11
08-09-2012, 02:35 AM
So unbelievably strange.

3rd grade behavior by the regular guy to bait and then tell the teacher. He got the attention he craved, and then some. Good job, good effort.

Ramsey was a good follow, although his over the top, pollyanna with a hint of condescension attitude could be grating at times. Always like people in the organization engaging with the fans. He seems like a really good guy. I hope the Reds don't make him stay off twitter forever. He had a huge following on what has become a key marketing tool for every business that relies solely on the public. You can't replicate that with just a blog, or a random new person.

powersackers
08-09-2012, 02:47 AM
I could use some help fighting the good fight. My user name on jamieblog is rookie crop. Come back me up please.

http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/2012/08/09/a-message-from-the-author/#comment-11247

757690
08-09-2012, 02:49 AM
Actually, the Golden Rule with Twitter is not to engage in an argument with fans on Twitter if you are in a position of authority. It brings you and who you work for, down to their level, plus you can never win. You think Jamie would have learned that from following @DallasLatos.

11larkin11
08-09-2012, 04:46 AM
Really, this year has been terrible being a Reds fan on Twitter. Between the crap that Dallas, John Fay, and Jamie have to put up with, I have no idea how/why they're still on there. I know its a minority, but Reds fans have really embarrassed me this year on Twitter. You'd think we were 30 games back like the Astros from the daily abuse they take and ignorance they have to put up with.

90% of the questions they get can be answered by a simple Google search.

Example: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=drew+stubbs+stats

Griffey012
08-09-2012, 08:07 AM
Really, this year has been terrible being a Reds fan on Twitter. Between the crap that Dallas, John Fay, and Jamie have to put up with, I have no idea how/why they're still on there. I know its a minority, but Reds fans have really embarrassed me this year on Twitter. You'd think we were 30 games back like the Astros from the daily abuse they take and ignorance they have to put up with.

90% of the questions they get can be answered by a simple Google search.

Example: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=drew+stubbs+stats

I am sure it happens to the writers and personalities for every major league team. The only difference is some teams like the Astros are so bad that most of the non die-hard fans who do not know a lot about baseball have given up by now and don't care about the Astros anymore. We are leading the division and people care, so it only gets magnified.

On another note BP's tweets yesterday were hilarious.

dsmith421
08-09-2012, 09:03 AM
Really, this year has been terrible being a Reds fan on Twitter. Between the crap that Dallas, John Fay, and Jamie have to put up with, I have no idea how/why they're still on there. I know its a minority, but Reds fans have really embarrassed me this year on Twitter.

This is not an issue restricted to Reds fans, or sports fans in general. Twitter is a cesspool.

OesterPoster
08-09-2012, 09:21 AM
DaRedsWinPOW just moments ago locked his Twitter. He was obviously getting overwhelmed with mostly negative attention.

Ha, now his account has been suspended. I guess he violated one of the items in Twitter's very fine print.

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 10:24 AM
I like following Jamie, and hope he isn't fired by the Reds and allowed to return to Twitter. But really, he should have known better and just walked away from that "fight."

KittyDuran
08-09-2012, 10:39 AM
So unbelievably strange.

3rd grade behavior by the regular guy to bait and then tell the teacher. He got the attention he craved, and then some. Good job, good effort.

Ramsey was a good follow, although his over the top, pollyanna with a hint of condescension attitude could be grating at times. Always like people in the organization engaging with the fans. He seems like a really good guy. I hope the Reds don't make him stay off twitter forever. He had a huge following on what has become a key marketing tool for every business that relies solely on the public. You can't replicate that with just a blog, or a random new person.

KD thinks that it is strange that you're referring to Jamie in past tense... know something or just assume that Jamie will be canned by the Reds over this? As far as being a "pollyanna", in KD's honest opinion, she'll take that any day, and besides if she wanted the opposite they are many (too many) blogs, twitter accounts, forums (including RZ) that she follows for that fix.

On a related issue, KD wonders if this will change the tweet-up next Thursday? I'm planning to go (my first time).

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 10:43 AM
So unbelievably strange.

3rd grade behavior by the regular guy to bait and then tell the teacher. He got the attention he craved, and then some. Good job, good effort.

Ramsey was a good follow, although his over the top, pollyanna with a hint of condescension attitude could be grating at times. Always like people in the organization engaging with the fans. He seems like a really good guy. I hope the Reds don't make him stay off twitter forever. He had a huge following on what has become a key marketing tool for every business that relies solely on the public. You can't replicate that with just a blog, or a random new person.

To be fair, he is a Reds marketing employee, so his job is to put the club into a favorable light.

HeatherC1212
08-09-2012, 10:52 AM
*sigh* This whole thing makes me really sad. :( Jamie is a good guy. He doesn't deserve the crap that he takes and I don't think he should be severely punished for losing his cool over that toolshed. I hope he's okay. I just saw him at Mo's watch party the other night and he was in great spirits.

Twitter is fast becoming a place where more and more idiots are getting away with harrassing and instigating things with others way too much. I don't know how they can fix it though. :(

NJReds
08-09-2012, 10:57 AM
Twitter's just another Internet tool that people can use to hide behind their anonymity to say things that they wouldn't dream of saying in person. It's sad, really, but Jaime has to realize that there a folks out there just trying to bait people so they can do a "screencap" and get their 30 seconds of Deadspin fame.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 11:13 AM
Any medium that limits discourse to 144 characters is bound to takes a shorter route to disagreements and snark

It a good tool for leading users to information and a poor tool for fostering intelligent conversation

reds1869
08-09-2012, 11:20 AM
I love twitter because it allows me to quickly get basic information directly from sources I would otherwise not be in contact with. When folks use it like a parallel-universe version of the cincinnati.com comments section it becomes useless. Luckily I don't have to look at their tweets if I don't want to. Twitter is good for information but bad for conversation.

HeatherC1212
08-09-2012, 11:54 AM
Any medium that limits discourse to 144 characters is bound to takes a shorter route to disagreements and snark

It a good tool for leading users to information and a poor tool for fostering intelligent conversation

Actually you only get 140 characters but I do agree with your post overall. :beerme:

Blitz Dorsey
08-09-2012, 12:11 PM
I'll excuse Jamie for what he did. Screw that A-hole that was baiting him and saying disparaging things like "You're a Dusty (Richard) Rider."

Jamie needs to be more professional than this, but this was a one-time thing in by book. Jamie doesn't make a habit out of this kind of behavior. I, for one, am glad there is someone in the "front office" (albeit very low on the food chain) publicly sticking up for the Reds. He just took it too far with the DM, but I'll give him a mulligan on that. Can't happen again though.

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-09-2012, 12:11 PM
I'm not sure why Dallas Latos, especially, engages the fans who berate her and her husband. In fact, she goes looking for it in Tweets that aren't even directed at her. Nothing good ever comes out of it and all it does is guarantee that these people will try to stoke the fire again next time. They get the recognition and attention they want, they'll surely do it again.

Sadly, it's these idiots' primary form of entertainment. Take the image of the 30-year-old loser sitting in his mom's basement playing video games until 4 a.m. and replace video games with Twitter. I don't know why Latos, Ramsey, Fay or Reedy with the Bengals even responds to those people.

Crumbley
08-09-2012, 12:21 PM
I hate the idea that you can attack someone and then run around and claim "victim" when you get it back. With that being said, when the Reds are paying you to represent their brand, you can't go off on trolls like that.

WildcatFan
08-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Twitter's just another Internet tool that people can use to hide behind their anonymity to say things that they wouldn't dream of saying in person. It's sad, really, but Jaime has to realize that there a folks out there just trying to bait people so they can do a "screencap" and get their 30 seconds of Deadspin fame.

I think you've identified the operative words.

Jharb74
08-09-2012, 01:08 PM
We all take it for granted that we have such close access to the Reds and their front office. Can you imagine if the world had direct access to Johnny Bench back in the 70's?

That being said, our radio show this wknd. will be in support of Jamie. Playing all of his favorite songs as rejoiner music, telling Jamie stories, and Jim Kelch on live.
We'd be nowhere without Jamie. I don't wanna work in a Reds world without him.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 01:19 PM
We all take it for granted that we have such close access to the Reds and their front office. Can you imagine if the world had direct access to Johnny Bench back in the 70's?


I certainly don't, I remember the days well.

As for JB, are you implying appearances on the Dinah Shore show wasn't enough access?

11larkin11
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
I am sure it happens to the writers and personalities for every major league team. The only difference is some teams like the Astros are so bad that most of the non die-hard fans who do not know a lot about baseball have given up by now and don't care about the Astros anymore. We are leading the division and people care, so it only gets magnified.

On another note BP's tweets yesterday were hilarious.

Giants beatwriter:


Henry Schulman ‏@hankschulman

I enjoy following @johnfayman, my counterpart in Cincy, just to see his Tweeps whine about a manager and team with 2nd-best record in majors

Other teams notice it too...

westofyou
08-09-2012, 01:42 PM
Giants beatwriter:



Other teams notice it too...

Of note there is great respect for Dusty in the Bay Area, even 10 years after he left.

The treatment he gets in Redsland is pathetic

Tom Servo
08-09-2012, 01:54 PM
Giants beatwriter:



Other teams notice it too...
I also like to imagine that was a subtle shot at Fay by saying the morons who tweet Fay are the only reason he's worth following. :lol:

cumberlandreds
08-09-2012, 02:25 PM
I certainly don't, I remember the days well.

As for JB, are you implying appearances on the Dinah Shore show wasn't enough access?

Don't forget he was also on The Bobby Goldsboro Show, Hee Haw, Bob Hope Christmas tours and probably a Tonight Show or two. That's enough for me. :)

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Jaime is tweeting right now...

mdccclxix
08-09-2012, 03:02 PM
Twitter is a reactive medium, people say stupid stuff. Unfortunately it's recorded on the internet. "Don't ever put it in print" they say.

KittyDuran
08-09-2012, 03:50 PM
Don't forget he was also on The Bobby Goldsboro Show, Hee Haw, Bob Hope Christmas tours and probably a Tonight Show or two. That's enough for me. :)

KD remembers JB a lot on the Bob Braun Show (aka 50/50 Club) on Channel 5 WLW-T! She only remembers him singing one song (he probably performed more) "Fire & Rain". :)

cumberlandreds
08-09-2012, 03:59 PM
KD remembers JB a lot on the Bob Braun Show (aka 50/50 Club) on Channel 5 WLW-T! She only remembers him singing one song (he probably performed more) "Fire & Rain". :)

cumberlandreds forgot about that show. JB was on it quite a bit.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 04:05 PM
KD remembers JB a lot on the Bob Braun Show (aka 50/50 Club) on Channel 5 WLW-T! She only remembers him singing one song (he probably performed more) "Fire & Rain". :)

WOY remembers Rob Ryder coming into the Mariemont Theater with his kids

KittyDuran
08-09-2012, 05:07 PM
cumberlandreds forgot about that show. JB was on it quite a bit.

KD remembers a lot of Reds players from that era on the show. It was her main source of Reds appearances besides the occassional TWIB segment.

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 05:10 PM
KD remembers a lot of Reds players from that era on the show. It was her main source of Reds appearances besides the occassional TWIB segment.

And later on The Baseball Bunch!

Unassisted
08-09-2012, 05:32 PM
With that being said, when the Reds are paying you to represent their brand, you can't go off on trolls like that.
1000x this. I truly don't understand how he still has a job. I have a close relative who works in social media. If someone in her department did that, they'd get an unannounced visit by a pair of security guards who would escort them to their vehicle to commemorate their last workday.

marcshoe
08-09-2012, 05:48 PM
Jaime is tweeting right now...

Thanks for posting this. I sent him a "glad to see you here" tweet.

camisadelgolf
08-09-2012, 06:11 PM
Ramsey might be incredibly bored of his job if it weren't for twitter.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 06:18 PM
Jamie made a mistake, but should in no way lose his job. That idiot deserved whatever came his way. Reds fans are really pathetic, to be honest. The one's on Twitter, anyhow. They've spent 99% of the season bashing Dusty as opposed to enjoying the season. And God forbid we lose more than two games in a row. THE SKY IS FALLING!!! AHHHH!!! Let the vitriol flow.

edabbs44
08-09-2012, 06:32 PM
Of note there is great respect for Dusty in the Bay Area, even 10 years after he left.

The treatment he gets in Redsland is pathetic

They have the 2nd best record in the majors. He should have the best. Even with a fatally flawed roster put together by Old Man Walt.

Oh, wait....

Unassisted
08-09-2012, 06:39 PM
Jamie made a mistake, but should in no way lose his job. That idiot deserved whatever came his way.I don't agree that he deserved to get it from someone posting in official capacity for the Reds on Twitter. When the conversation turned to insults, the idiot should have gone onto Jamie's blocked list, never to be communicated with again. Fay claims the troll was persistent and on his third account. Wouldn't have mattered if Jamie had followed that one simple rule.

You don't reply to that stuff on your employer's behalf, you ignore it. That's the difference between tweeting on a personal account and a work account.

CySeymour
08-09-2012, 06:39 PM
Thanks for posting this. I sent him a "glad to see you here" tweet.

You are welcome!

powersackers
08-09-2012, 06:46 PM
1000x this. I truly don't understand how he still has a job. I have a close relative who works in social media. If someone in her department did that, they'd get an unannounced visit by a pair of security guards who would escort them to their vehicle to commemorate their last workday.

If true that's sad. A one strike your out policy for dending ones self after being publicly and grossly called disgusting names and personally attacked?

Strikes Out Looking
08-09-2012, 06:48 PM
KD remembers JB a lot on the Bob Braun Show (aka 50/50 Club) on Channel 5 WLW-T! She only remembers him singing one song (he probably performed more) "Fire & Rain". :)

SOL remembers him singing "Big Jim" either on Bob Braun or Hee Haw.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 06:51 PM
I don't agree that he deserved to get it from someone posting in official capacity for the Reds on Twitter. When the conversation turned to insults, the idiot should have gone onto Jamie's blocked list, never to be communicated with again. Fay claims the troll was persistent and on his third account. Wouldn't have mattered if Jamie had followed that one simple rule.

You don't reply to that stuff on your employer's behalf, you ignore it. That's the difference between tweeting on a personal account and a work account.

I agree with you, to an extent. I acknowledge he made a mistake. And yes, he "should" have blocked him. But in the heat of the moment, I understand his frustration. When I first started on this board, I had a hard time holding back when I felt insulted. I'm lucky I didn't get kicked off the board, because I took everything personally.

And Twitter has 10 times the number of jackasses as Redszone does. He deals with crap like that almost every day. Maybe he was having a bad day at work, or in his personal life. And he snapped. No way does he deserve to be fired for a one time incident in my opinion. Sure, if it's a pattern, get rid of him. But so far, it hasn't been.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 06:51 PM
I don't think that he should be forced to take abuse just because he works for the Reds. He sent the guy a direct message, he didn't tweet it to embarrass him, whatever it was. If the guy gets his feelings hurt too easily, maybe he should treat people with respect on Twitter.

Unassisted
08-09-2012, 07:14 PM
I agree with you, to an extent. I acknowledge he made a mistake. And yes, he "should" have blocked him. But in the heat of the moment, I understand his frustration. When I first started on this board, I had a hard time holding back when I felt insulted. I'm lucky I didn't get kicked off the board, because I took everything personally.

And Twitter has 10 times the number of jackasses as Redszone does. He deals with crap like that almost every day. Maybe he was having a bad day at work, or in his personal life. And he snapped. No way does he deserve to be fired for a one time incident in my opinion. Sure, if it's a pattern, get rid of him. But so far, it hasn't been.


I don't think that he should be forced to take abuse just because he works for the Reds. He sent the guy a direct message, he didn't tweet it to embarrass him, whatever it was. If the guy gets his feelings hurt too easily, maybe he should treat people with respect on Twitter.That's the difference between posting on a personal account and posting on a work account. When you're on a work account, you're as public as a receptionist at the front desk. The reflex should be to respond with "Yes, sir" and "No, ma'am" rather than to escalate to "I'm going to kick your..."

If anything is at fault, it could be that the role of his position is too broad. Customer service is a different skillset than journalism. The Reds probably need to put a different receptionist at the Twitter front desk.

camisadelgolf
08-09-2012, 07:15 PM
I don't think that he should be forced to take abuse just because he works for the Reds. He sent the guy a direct message, he didn't tweet it to embarrass him, whatever it was. If the guy gets his feelings hurt too easily, maybe he should treat people with respect on Twitter.
Although I agree that a person shouldn't have to put up with abuse on twitter, the fact is that when you're on Ramsey's position, it's going to happen. From there, you just need to find the best way to deal with it. In this case, it's ignoring it. If the guy was in Ramsey's face and saying those things, it might have been a different story. But the only way to combat internet trolls is to ignore them. Otherwise, you're just giving them exactly what they're looking for. I would know.
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/2/2d/Trollface_HD.png/618px-Trollface_HD.png

Redsfaithful
08-09-2012, 07:15 PM
You pretty clearly shouldn't do something like that from a work account. I don't want anyone to lose their job, but the guy has had borderline behavior for a long time, imo. Jamie has tremendously thin skin, which is unfortunate in a position like his.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 07:55 PM
All of you make fair points. Like I said, he certainly should've known better. And I agree, he does have thin skin. But I wouldn't exactly label him Dallas Latos lol. She's the worst. She fishes for mayhem. I don't feel sorry for the heat she catches one bit. In my opinion, Jamie doesn't go looking for it. I think he's classier on Twitter than John Fay for example. I think overall he does a pretty decent job, and one incident shouldn't define him on Twitter. I enjoy his work, I think he does a great job.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 07:55 PM
Does anyone know what he actually said in the DM? I haven't seen that yet if it went public.

reds44
08-09-2012, 08:10 PM
Does anyone know what he actually said in the DM? I haven't seen that yet if it went public.
It's all on deadspin.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 08:24 PM
Does anyone know what he actually said in the DM? I haven't seen that yet if it went public.

http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?tag=media-meltdowns

If he was employed by me he'd be unemployed today

_Sir_Charles_
08-09-2012, 08:30 PM
http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?tag=media-meltdowns (http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?tag=media-meltdowns)

If he was employed by me he'd be unemployed today

I love Jaime....but I agree with WoY here. Public face of my business....bye-bye.

Blitz Dorsey
08-09-2012, 08:37 PM
I'm sure the Reds appreciate your suggestions on who they should keep/fire. Truth is, if you start firing everyone for the first mistake they make, you'd be left with a skeleton staff and/or a bunch of people who don't really know what they're doing. Perhaps Jamie's boss knows he's extremely valuable and is willing to give him a mulligan one time? Glad I don't work for you guys. (Then again, I wouldn't work at a fast food joint anyway.)

:beerme:

vaticanplum
08-09-2012, 08:43 PM
I'm with WoY too. This is common sense if you work professionally in social media in any capacity whatsoever. There are thousands of other people who can do it and keep their heads about it.

757690
08-09-2012, 08:46 PM
I'm sure the Reds appreciate your suggestions on who they should keep/fire. Truth is, if you start firing everyone for the first mistake they make, you'd be left with a skeleton staff and/or a bunch of people who don't really know what they're doing. Perhaps Jamie's boss knows he's extremely valuable and is willing to give him a mulligan one time? Glad I don't work for you guys. (Then again, I wouldn't work at a fast food joint anyway.)

:beerme:

Ain't the first time. Ramsey has a history of being immature, though never as bad as this.

He's also not a favorite of the Reds media, especially the high profile ones. One tactic he pulled, was not giving out his minor league report to those in the media that didn't use it and mention him when using it.

Not really sure how he survived this.

camisadelgolf
08-09-2012, 08:52 PM
Jamie Ramsey is great at a lot of things related to the Reds, but he shouldn't be doing media relations for them imho.

kaldaniels
08-09-2012, 08:53 PM
Would the Reds have taken a PR "hit" if they had fired him? I could see a swell of support form for Jaime had he been fired, considering the baiting post. Might have been the best move to "sweep this under the rug" with a stern warning behind closed doors.

powersackers
08-09-2012, 09:05 PM
http://deadspin.com/5933159/this-reds-media-guy-really--wanted-to-kick-someones-ass-after-todays-loss?tag=media-meltdowns

If he was employed by me he'd be unemployed today

And if he worked for me he'd get a commendation. And I would stand side by side with him for standing up for my company and himself. Then behind doors I'd tell him to ignore idiots and never do it again. No way my company sides with raunchy trolling attackers.

vaticanplum
08-09-2012, 09:12 PM
And if he worked for me he'd get a commendation. And I would stand side by side with him for standing up for my company and himself. Then behind doors I'd tell him to ignore idiots and never do it again. No way my company sides with raunchy trolling attackers.

That's just the thing though; raunchy trolling attackers are an inherent part of social media, which is part of his job. You *will not* get rid of them unless you get rid of the internet. So your employee either needs to take social media as it is and deal with it in a high-road way, or make its evils a part of his everyday dealings.

I guess it is a bit harsh to say I would fire him immediately if I were his boss. Everybody makes mistakes and everybody deserves a second chance. But a huge part of doing a good job is handling the realities of your medium, and overcoming them when they don't serve your business. In no way was that done here. Ramsey did not handle the realities of his medium, and in the meantime he trashed the name of his company on a very low level.

MLB is so different from most other business. Its dealings on this level are entirely public. You don't *have* to tread very carefully, but if you don't, your actions will have much further-reaching repercussions than a lot of other businesses.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 09:41 PM
And if he worked for me he'd get a commendation. And I would stand side by side with him for standing up for my company and himself. Then behind doors I'd tell him to ignore idiots and never do it again. No way my company sides with raunchy trolling attackers.

Takes a long time to build a reputation and a professional cache, and it takes 5 seconds to tear it all down.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 09:55 PM
Takes a long time to build a reputation and a professional cache, and it takes 5 seconds to tear it all down.

I personally don't think he's done any damage to his personal reputation, or to the Reds brand, with his tweet. Yes, it was ill-advised. But I didn't think it was totally over the top. I think it's easy for any of us to say "Well, he's a professional, and he just has to deal with it." We aren't the ones getting personally attacked several times a week. I'd imagine after a while there's a breaking point. Hopefully he learns from it.

Matt700wlw
08-09-2012, 10:17 PM
Maybe the twitter handles who baited him should apologize too, but they don't have to. They aren't man enough to use their real name.

He made a mistake. So have you.

Sports is supposed to be fun....

kaldaniels
08-09-2012, 10:26 PM
I personally don't think he's done any damage to his personal reputation, or to the Reds brand, with his tweet. Yes, it was ill-advised. But I didn't think it was totally over the top. I think it's easy for any of us to say "Well, he's a professional, and he just has to deal with it." We aren't the ones getting personally attacked several times a week. I'd imagine after a while there's a breaking point. Hopefully he learns from it.

I agree with this, and with WOY as well. While you certainly can destroy a reputation in 5 seconds, I don't think that is what Ramsey has done here. In the sports world on Twitter, you typically have a jockular give-and-take from many media sorts...Ramsey crossed a line, but his repuation (and what exactly was his repuation before this?) is not in tatters.

George Foster
08-09-2012, 10:26 PM
this bag of bones is 0-8 with a 7.22 era....we have to beat him or we are hurtin'

George Foster
08-09-2012, 10:28 PM
this bag of bones is 0-8 with a 7.22 era....we have to beat him or we are hurtin'

BOOM!

George Foster
08-09-2012, 10:34 PM
testing....is this mic on?? Where is everybody??

kaldaniels
08-09-2012, 10:36 PM
testing....is this mic on?? Where is everybody??

In the right thread.

George Foster
08-09-2012, 10:37 PM
In the right thread.

I'm an idiot....was clicking around and thought I was in the game thread?? Sorry...:eek:

kaldaniels
08-09-2012, 10:38 PM
I'm an idiot....was clicking around and thought I was in the game thread?? Sorry...:eek:

I was gonna let you go all night if you hadn't asked....:D

edabbs44
08-09-2012, 10:42 PM
Back to the topic, he should be fired.

_Sir_Charles_
08-09-2012, 11:02 PM
I was gonna let you go all night if you hadn't asked....:D

Darn you Kal. That would've been priceless. :O)

Brutus
08-09-2012, 11:05 PM
Reds fans seem to be making a bigger deal out of this than anyone else. That tells me that it's not that big a PR blunder. To be honest, from the responses I've seen, most non-Reds fans don't blame Ramsey given the idiotic and vulgar feedback he was getting from a few of those people.

edabbs44
08-09-2012, 11:10 PM
Reds fans seem to be making a bigger deal out of this than anyone else. That tells me that it's not that big a PR blunder. To be honest, from the responses I've seen, most non-Reds fans don't blame Ramsey given the idiotic and vulgar feedback he was getting from a few of those people.

He could have handled it a bit better though. Call the guy out respectfully and in public. Dont take it private and challenge him to a fight or say he's gonna beat him up or something. Lame.

Brutus
08-09-2012, 11:27 PM
He could have handled it a bit better though. Call the guy out respectfully and in public. Dont take it private and challenge him to a fight or say he's gonna beat him up or something. Lame.

I'm not suggesting I think he handled it properly, but I don't blame him for acting the way he did and apparently most non-Reds fans don't either. The guy had it coming regardless of whether an employee should act like that publicly.

Besides, while I realize he's still a public person as far as the club is concerned, a direct message is private and to some extent, he should have some expectation of privacy. Obviously because of his notoriety, even a private message doesn't guarantee much privacy, but that message wasn't intended for public consumption.

westofyou
08-09-2012, 11:38 PM
Maybe the twitter handles who baited him should apologize too, but they don't have to. They aren't man enough to use their real name.

He made a mistake. So have you.

Sports is supposed to be fun....

Sports are fun

What he does is business for MLB

Tweeting for one of the 30 MLB teams in existence in the age of blossoming Internet access is a touchy vein, I don't think his reaction is bad or the other dolt isn't a DA but he is representing a brand that is recovering from two decades of bad press

edabbs44
08-09-2012, 11:52 PM
I'm not suggesting I think he handled it properly, but I don't blame him for acting the way he did and apparently most non-Reds fans don't either. The guy had it coming regardless of whether an employee should act like that publicly.

Besides, while I realize he's still a public person as far as the club is concerned, a direct message is private and to some extent, he should have some expectation of privacy. Obviously because of his notoriety, even a private message doesn't guarantee much privacy, but that message wasn't intended for public consumption.

A lot of events that affect people negatively were originally not meant for public consumption.

cincrazy
08-09-2012, 11:54 PM
A lot of events that affect people negatively were originally not meant for public consumption.

But the guy being "affected" negatively here is a piece of trash that crossed a line and made it personal.

Matt700wlw
08-10-2012, 12:09 AM
Sports are fun

What he does is business for MLB

Tweeting for one of the 30 MLB teams in existence in the age of blossoming Internet access is a touchy vein, I don't think his reaction is bad or the other dolt isn't a DA but he is representing a brand that is recovering from two decades of bad press

Thanks for the grammatical correction. That's not like me, I'm smarter than that...

Wow.

I can't believe I did that :(

I(heart)Freel
08-10-2012, 01:59 AM
Ain't the first time. Ramsey has a history of being immature, though never as bad as this.

He's also not a favorite of the Reds media, especially the high profile ones. One tactic he pulled, was not giving out his minor league report to those in the media that didn't use it and mention him when using it.

Not really sure how he survived this.

Really? I'm curious from where this comes. All the Reds media I talk to love him and have never claimed anything remotely similar to this "tactic he pulled."

By the by, everyone claiming to be experts on social media in business: how many of you actually do it for a living? You'd think we just stumbled into a mashable message board with all the "I know better" judgment getting thrown around.

Redsfaithful
08-10-2012, 03:27 AM
By the by, everyone claiming to be experts on social media in business: how many of you actually do it for a living? You'd think we just stumbled into a mashable message board with all the "I know better" judgment getting thrown around.

I do. And like I said, I don't ever wish for anyone to lose their job, but if Ramsay were my employee I'd probably take away the Twitter account at the least.

It's not hard to block people on Twitter. Jamie clearly takes it too seriously to remain professional. I haven't had personal interaction with the guy, but I unfollowed him long ago because of his constant haranguing of negative fans. He's extremely tone deaf in that area, and while I have no idea about the rest of his job, the Twitter/blog aspect is simple enough an intern could do it, so there's really no excuse.

757690
08-10-2012, 04:47 AM
Really? I'm curious from where this comes. All the Reds media I talk to love him and have never claimed anything remotely similar to this "tactic he pulled."

By the by, everyone claiming to be experts on social media in business: how many of you actually do it for a living? You'd think we just stumbled into a mashable message board with all the "I know better" judgment getting thrown around.

C. Trent was the one who reported on that tactic, repeatedly. He, Fay, Marty, and Welsh have all expressed dissatisfaction with Ramsey's professionalism at various times, but never in a direct way, mostly with backhanded compliments and subtle jabs. I have no inside knowledge, just going on what I've read and heard. If you read Ramsey's twitter account on a regular basis, you can't be surprised that this happened.

Big Klu
08-10-2012, 05:11 AM
Am I the only person left in the world who has absolutely zero contact with Facebook and Twitter?

camisadelgolf
08-10-2012, 05:28 AM
Am I the only person left in the world who has absolutely zero contact with Facebook and Twitter?
Let me guess: you still use one of these? ;)
http://hearinginformed.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/rotary-phone.jpg

membengal
08-10-2012, 07:14 AM
I use twitter for news. In essence, I have made it a glorified RSS feed, as I follow beat writers and others close to teams so I can get news and updates, and links to new articles and what not. It's great for that.

But...there is a twitter style that Fay and Ramsey have adopted, and Reedy on the Bengals side, that I flat can't stand, and I don't know why they do it. Basically, they go out of their way to re-tweet and respond to constant vile negativity. I don't get why they are inflicting that crap on all of their followers. Makes no sense, other than they are apparently kinda jerks in their own right. McAlister does a lot of the same thing. Why re-tweet and re-broadcast base stupidity, thereby giving it some sort of legitimacy? Again, it makes no sense to me.

In any event, Ramsey always did too much of that (as faithful alluded to), and clearly at some point took this too seriously. That's where his mistakes emanate from.

I(heart)Freel
08-10-2012, 09:10 AM
C. Trent was the one who reported on that tactic, repeatedly. He, Fay, Marty, and Welsh have all expressed dissatisfaction with Ramsey's professionalism at various times, but never in a direct way, mostly with backhanded compliments and subtle jabs. I have no inside knowledge, just going on what I've read and heard. If you read Ramsey's twitter account on a regular basis, you can't be surprised that this happened.

Youre kidding about this, right? These guys are like fraternity brothers and they LOVE ribbing the young pledge. And you think it's serious? Maybe CTrent is/was. I'll have to ask him. But the other guys... on the air... give grief to Jamie and Herms all the time. That's what they do.

cumberlandreds
08-10-2012, 09:27 AM
Am I the only person left in the world who has absolutely zero contact with Facebook and Twitter?

Nope. You and me must be all that don't.

Vottomatic
08-10-2012, 01:41 PM
I have a twitter account with access to alot of so-called "celebs" and people of notoriety associated with sports, entertainment, etc.

But I rarely look at it or follow it. Almost never.

I've come to realize that many people have an overinflated sense of their own importance.

vaticanplum
08-10-2012, 01:53 PM
I like Twitter precisely *because* you have more control over what you see than you do in a lot of other media. Yeah, I've managed my Facebook account in that manner in the past -- keeping lists of separate friends, keeping what I post limited to certain people -- but it's a lot of work and their privacy policies change so frequently that I'm never entirely sure who's seeing what. And I see a lot of dumb crap that other people post no matter how closely I try to manage it.

By contrast, I have a private twitter account, so I know right off the bat exactly who's seeing what I post; this gives me a lot of freedom in what I feel like I can say. My real name isn't attached to it so I don't have to deal with people finding the account randomly. And I only follow people I really want to listen to, which limits it to some really strong news outlets, sports affiliates, and individuals I think have things to say. Yeah, there are dumb celebrities on twitter, but you don't have to follow them. The whole point of twitter, to me, is cutting out the noise. You only need to acknowledge it if you make a conscious point of seeking it out and addressing it. People like Ramsey, who seem to go out of their way to make the noise louder, are obviously approaching it in a different way -- their ways of using it go directly against the reasons I enjoy it. That's a personal choice, but when you're using an account which represents a professional organization, then you're making the personal professional and that's a slippery slope.

KittyDuran
08-10-2012, 10:57 PM
I like Twitter precisely *because* you have more control over what you see than you do in a lot of other media. Yeah, I've managed my Facebook account in that manner in the past -- keeping lists of separate friends, keeping what I post limited to certain people -- but it's a lot of work and their privacy policies change so frequently that I'm never entirely sure who's seeing what. And I see a lot of dumb crap that other people post no matter how closely I try to manage it.I have a "fake" facebook account because I was getting friend requests from family members I haven't seen or heard from in years even decades. What I like with this account is just basic info - only drawback is special offers that I can't take advantage of. Might have to create another account with a variation on my name and hope no family finds me...


By contrast, I have a private twitter account, so I know right off the bat exactly who's seeing what I post; this gives me a lot of freedom in what I feel like I can say. My real name isn't attached to it so I don't have to deal with people finding the account randomly. And I only follow people I really want to listen to, which limits it to some really strong news outlets, sports affiliates, and individuals I think have things to say. Yeah, there are dumb celebrities on twitter, but you don't have to follow them. The whole point of twitter, to me, is cutting out the noise. You only need to acknowledge it if you make a conscious point of seeking it out and addressing it. People like Ramsey, who seem to go out of their way to make the noise louder, are obviously approaching it in a different way -- their ways of using it go directly against the reasons I enjoy it. That's a personal choice, but when you're using an account which represents a professional organization, then you're making the personal professional and that's a slippery slope.

Mine is private only that I use my regular internet name and not my real name (did at one point). I follow 21 twitters accounts: news (Breaking News from CNN and the BBC), one network (PBS), one magazine (Slate), books (goodreads), restaurants (Macaroni Grill), movies (Rave Cinemas), Duran Duran (Simon Le Bon and John Taylor), actors/fans (Tom Hiddleston and Loki Laufeyson), and the rest are sports/baseball related (Reds, Lance McAlister, Jim Day, Mo Egger, Jamie Ramsey, Rockin' Redlegs, John Fay, Ken Broo, Dayton Dragons, and Mike Leake). I followed a lot more at first but they became what you called noise, Fox, MSNBC, the Weather Channel, the Travel Channel, and Brandon Phillips. Brandon was really tough but I wasn't getting anything from his tweets, I guess I wasn't hip or current enough, plus along with the others I unfollowed since they were cluttering up my timeline.

Now to Jamie...I'm really confused - and this might be a sign of the apocalypse... but this is the first time I've been at odds over something you've, VP, (and BCubb) have written. What is noise to you I find informative. Jaime tweets the game-when MLB At Bat is stuck and Tapatalk is slow and/or restricted this is where I get the score and action of the game (when I'm away from the radio/TV, like today at work). He also tweets about contests and info that seems to be hidden on the Reds website. Do the players like him? He seems to get information that's entertaining-but maybe he's pushy and the players "play along" because he works for the club. Also, how did Jamie get this as Redsfaithful says "intern" job? I know he had a blog, did he win a contest? Was C. Trent in the running for this job? I just remember seeing his blog on the Reds site and went from there. He seems like a nice guy to meet and the times I've interacted with him on twitter have been pleasant. I haven't got my ticket yet for the tweet-up next Thursday but I've taken the next day off from work cause I'll get home late. So now I wonder if I should go...:confused:

Sigh, I guess I just don't understand the lenient hostility towards the guy... For those who run sports blogs or write for a living, is it because you believe he is not talented or mature enough to do the job?

Feedback please! My hard earn dollars and vacation time is at stake! ;)

Red in Chicago
08-10-2012, 11:13 PM
Not to derail the thread, but what does one do with a fake Facebook account? Isn't the whole point to get acquainted with old friends? I don't have an account, but am curious about how how you utilize the fake account?

And what does a private twitter account mean? Just that you aren't using your real name and picture?

I have a twitter account under my dogs name, just so I can get some Reds updates. I never actually tweet though.

I really not as old as one would think :laugh:

KittyDuran
08-10-2012, 11:30 PM
Not to derail the thread, but what does one do with a fake Facebook account? Isn't the whole point to get acquainted with old friends? I don't have an account, but am curious about how how you utilize the fake account?

And what does a private twitter account mean? Just that you aren't using your real name and picture?

I have a twitter account under my dogs name, just so I can get some Reds updates. I never actually tweet though.

I really not as old as one would think :laugh:For the same reasons you have your twitter account under your dog's name... to get info. Mine is for Reds, Paul McCartney, Chilis restaurant, Coastal Contacts (glasses), Duran Duran, TGIF Fridays, Fraze Pavilion, and Dayton Dragons. I just put in bogus info, name, address, (an valid email account that I never use), and a DOB.

VP's twitter account is I'm sure truly private, under a name she is not associated with - mine is KittyDuran so it is not that private, people on the Internet know who I am but might not know my real name.

Sabo Fan
08-11-2012, 12:11 AM
Am I the only person left in the world who has absolutely zero contact with Facebook and Twitter?

There's at least two of us.

Don't plan on signing up for either anytime soon. There is such as thing as being too plugged in.

vaticanplum
08-11-2012, 12:13 AM
Now to Jamie...I'm really confused - and this might be a sign of the apocalypse... but this is the first time I've been at odds over something you've, VP, (and BCubb) have written. What is noise to you I find informative. Jaime tweets the game-when MLB At Bat is stuck and Tapatalk is slow and/or restricted this is where I get the score and action of the game (when I'm away from the radio/TV, like today at work). He also tweets about contests and info that seems to be hidden on the Reds website. Do the players like him? He seems to get information that's entertaining-but maybe he's pushy and the players "play along" because he works for the club. Also, how did Jamie get this as Redsfaithful says "intern" job? I know he had a blog, did he win a contest? Was C. Trent in the running for this job? I just remember seeing his blog on the Reds site and went from there. He seems like a nice guy to meet and the times I've interacted with him on twitter have been pleasant. I haven't got my ticket yet for the tweet-up next Thursday but I've taken the next day off from work cause I'll get home late. So now I wonder if I should go...:confused:

Sigh, I guess I just don't understand the lenient hostility towards the guy... For those who run sports blogs or write for a living, is it because you believe he is not talented or mature enough to do the job?

Feedback please! My hard earn dollars and vacation time is at stake! ;)

:) I think I misspoke. I didn't mean noise at all in terms of what he himself posts, especially in terms of information. I think he does that part of his job admirably. He does have an ear to the team and he uses it well. He also conveys information well.

I was using "noise" only to refer to the heckling he receives and his responses as such. I do not see responding to heckling as part of his job. I was also referring to posters who were saying they don't see the point of twitter, celebrities post mindless things etc., because I think of that as "noise" but I don't think of it as the primary purpose or use of twitter -- i.e., you can weed that part out, and twitter makes it fairly easy to do so.

By the by, I don't blame you at all for having a private Facebook account. I feel like more and more information is attached to our FB accounts (and disseminated as such) and it freaks me out. You can hardly do anything on the internet anymore without doing it through facebook, it seems. Plus the ads are insane. Twitter is much cleaner that way. Anyway, I'm way off topic.

westofyou
08-11-2012, 02:20 AM
FWIW M2 told me a year ago that EVERYONE will in the future have a Private FB account

Big Klu
08-11-2012, 05:48 AM
FWIW M2 told me a year ago that EVERYONE will in the future have a Private FB account

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08-11-2012, 06:28 AM
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cincrazy
08-11-2012, 08:59 PM
Do any of you follow Peter King of SI on Twitter? Now THAT'S a guy I think should have a stern talking to regarding the way he deals with people on there.

westofyou
08-11-2012, 09:03 PM
Do any of you follow Peter King of SI on Twitter? Now THAT'S a guy I think should have a stern talking to regarding the way he deals with people on there.

He's their NFL guy right?

I hate football... well not really, but football to me is not worth the time it takes on sports radio and print.

too few games, I like the flow of the day to day, football (and even soccer which I like a lot) is not in that realm.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 09:06 PM
He's their NFL guy right?

I hate football... well not really, but football to me is not worth the time it takes on sports radio and print.

too few games, I like the flow of the day to day, football (and even soccer which I like a lot) is not in that realm.

Yeah he's their football guy. Just called a large section of his Twitter fans "lifeless idiots" amongst other things. One level-headed guy said he was going to unfollow him because of the way he treats people, and he more or less said "Oh well, one less idiot following me on here." I think Ramsey at least had a reason to unload on that one guy. Peter King is the master of treating people like crap on Twitter, whether it's deserving or not.

And while I consider myself a football fan, it's definitely a distant second to baseball for me. Too many commercials for me.

Always Red
08-11-2012, 09:09 PM
Peter King used to write for the Enquirer back in the 80's.

Ghosts of 1990
08-11-2012, 09:13 PM
Takes a long time to build a reputation and a professional cache, and it takes 5 seconds to tear it all down.


This. By failing miserably to just be objective (probably the Reds told Ramsey that he is to act as a Reds media cheerleader, so not entirely his fault) Ramsey brings some of the venom he gets on twitter on himself.

There's nothing I hate more then when the Reds are getting absolutely drilled 9-1 and have three hits all evening then logging into twitter and seeing Polly Pleasant Pants Ramsey acting like things are just hunky-dory. It's petty, it's annoying, and it's not "real". The reason I choose not to unfollow is he does bring bits of good information and if you're a die-hard Reds fan he's a good guy to have for things like the lineup, etc. before anyone else. But I hate the fact he can never just call a spade a spade. It's really annoying.

Everyone has bad days, and it's unfortunate Ramsey had to be coerced into internet slap-fighting. It happens and I won't hold it against him.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 09:15 PM
This. By failing miserably to just be objective (probably the Reds told Ramsey that he is to act as a Reds media cheerleader, so not entirely his fault) Ramsey brings some of the venom he gets on twitter on himself.

There's nothing I hate more then when the Reds are getting absolutely drilled 9-1 and have three hits all evening then logging into twitter and seeing Polly Pleasant Pants Ramsey acting like things are just hunky-dory. It's petty, it's annoying, and it's not "real". The reason I choose not to unfollow is he does bring bits of good information and if you're a die-hard Reds fan he's a good guy to have for things like the lineup, etc. before anyone else. But I hate the fact he can never just call a spade a spade. It's really annoying.

Everyone has bad days, and it's unfortunate Ramsey had to be coerced into internet slap-fighting. It happens and I won't hold it against him.

I see your point. But on the same hand, it's incredibly annoying when this team just won 22 out of 25 games, and a huge segment of the fanbase is FREAKING OUT over a minor losing streak and losing all perspective. It drives me nuts, and I don't deal with 1% of the crap he has to deal with every day.

Tony Cloninger
08-11-2012, 09:17 PM
Peter King used to write for the Enquirer back in the 80's.

he had it out for the Bengals FO big time. Cannot stand them.

Ghosts of 1990
08-11-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm sure the Reds appreciate your suggestions on who they should keep/fire. Truth is, if you start firing everyone for the first mistake they make, you'd be left with a skeleton staff and/or a bunch of people who don't really know what they're doing. Perhaps Jamie's boss knows he's extremely valuable and is willing to give him a mulligan one time? Glad I don't work for you guys. (Then again, I wouldn't work at a fast food joint anyway.)

:beerme:


Now wait a second. We aren't talking about a nuclear physicist or a Presidential Chief of Staff here, Blitz.

Jamie has a dream job. He sits around, watches baseball, writes about it, tweets about it. Don't think for a minute that there aren't at least a handful of qualified folks out there who couldn't do a good job like Jamie if that's what they were asked to do all day.

Ghosts of 1990
08-11-2012, 09:46 PM
I see your point. But on the same hand, it's incredibly annoying when this team just won 22 out of 25 games, and a huge segment of the fanbase is FREAKING OUT over a minor losing streak and losing all perspective. It drives me nuts, and I don't deal with 1% of the crap he has to deal with every day.

You're right.

Over the past month, even in losses I'm not going to lash out against the Reds. They've earned a free pass the rest of the way for their over-achievement. No one has the right to complain about the team as a whole right now.

Maybe you can be critical of individual efforts but if you're complaining about this team right now you're watching the wrong sport!

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 09:46 PM
Now wait a second. We aren't talking about a nuclear physicist or a Presidential Chief of Staff here, Blitz.

Jamie has a dream job. He sits around, watches baseball, writes about it, tweets about it. Don't think for a minute that there aren't at least a handful of qualified folks out there who couldn't do a good job like Jamie if that's what they were asked to do all day.

Oh come on now man. I'm sure he loves his job, but I'm sure he has plenty of responsibilities that make it challenging at times. I don't think it's fair to just act like anyone could do it. He's qualified for the position, and does a good job.

Raisor
08-11-2012, 09:57 PM
Can you imagine if this had nothing to do with sports, and this was the All State Insurance guy or someone getting heckled and this happened? He'd be gone in two seconds.

cincrazy
08-11-2012, 10:01 PM
Can you imagine if this had nothing to do with sports, and this was the All State Insurance guy or someone getting heckled and this happened? He'd be gone in two seconds.

Allstate... you're in good hands.... UNLESS YOU $%#& WITH US ON TWITTER!

Big Klu
08-11-2012, 10:26 PM
Can you imagine if this had nothing to do with sports, and this was the All State Insurance guy or someone getting heckled and this happened? He'd be gone in two seconds.

Who's gonna heckle Pedro Cerrano?

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Ghosts of 1990
08-12-2012, 01:08 AM
Oh come on now man. I'm sure he loves his job, but I'm sure he has plenty of responsibilities that make it challenging at times. I don't think it's fair to just act like anyone could do it. He's qualified for the position, and does a good job.

At the same time.... the guy doesn't have to sell things to bring home a paycheck. He doesn't have to do parent teacher conferences or deal with challenging kids at school. He's not trying to cure disease. He doesn't risk his life nor is he asked to save others every time he punches into a timeclock. He will most likely return home safe every night from his job.

Not saying anything about his qualifications, but he is luckier than 99.9% of us in what he does for a job. He is living the dream, for real. If I had his job, I think I would wake up feeling rosey more often than not as well.

I(heart)Freel
08-12-2012, 01:44 AM
This. By failing miserably to just be objective (probably the Reds told Ramsey that he is to act as a Reds media cheerleader, so not entirely his fault) Ramsey brings some of the venom he gets on twitter on himself.

There's nothing I hate more then when the Reds are getting absolutely drilled 9-1 and have three hits all evening then logging into twitter and seeing Polly Pleasant Pants Ramsey acting like things are just hunky-dory. It's petty, it's annoying, and it's not "real". The reason I choose not to unfollow is he does bring bits of good information and if you're a die-hard Reds fan he's a good guy to have for things like the lineup, etc. before anyone else. But I hate the fact he can never just call a spade a spade. It's really annoying.

Everyone has bad days, and it's unfortunate Ramsey had to be coerced into internet slap-fighting. It happens and I won't hold it against him.

He's in the Reds media relations dept. He's a PR guy. There isn't a PR pro worth his salt that would ever diss his product publicly. THAT might be a truly fire-able offense. Sticking up for it in the face of neanderthals who resort to personal attacks... that IS his job.

If you don't like Polly pleasant pants, don't follow the PR guy.

Hit up Fay or Lance for your objectivity. That's their job.

Unassisted
08-12-2012, 05:50 PM
Now wait a second. We aren't talking about a nuclear physicist or a Presidential Chief of Staff here, Blitz.

Jamie has a dream job. He sits around, watches baseball, writes about it, tweets about it. Don't think for a minute that there aren't at least a handful of qualified folks out there who couldn't do a good job like Jamie if that's what they were asked to do all day.I agree, but I think you've understated the number of qualified people who could do that job if the Reds let him go. Colleges and universities are turning out thousands of new journalism grads every single year, into a job market where the tried-and-true employers are shrinking. The eager writing pros who like baseball would kill to be in a job like that and the vast majority of them would know instinctively not to threaten to smack down their employer's customers.

No one is irreplaceable, and especially not in journalism, a profession where so many jobs have disappeared in the last 10 years that it it might be the optimal employer's market right now.

Raisor
08-12-2012, 06:42 PM
I agree, but I think you've understated the number of qualified people who could do that job if the Reds let him go. Colleges and universities are turning out thousands of new journalism grads every single year, into a job market where the tried-and-true employers are shrinking. The eager writing pros who like baseball would kill to be in a job like that and the vast majority of them would know instinctively not to threaten to smack down their employer's customers.

No one is irreplaceable, and especially not in journalism, a profession where so many jobs have disappeared in the last 10 years that it it might be the optimal employer's market right now.

My Mass Communications degree weeps with shame. I've never used the thing at all professionally.