7-23-10: Reds @ Astros

[redsfan_12]

Phillips 2B
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Gomes LF
Bruce RF
Cairo 3B
Stubbs CF
Hanigan C
Wood P

[redsfan_12]

Cards lose 5-0 :beerme:

Lets jump on Norris!

[brm7675]

Wow up to 20 innings without scoring...how can such a powerful Card offense do that?

[Reds]

Minute Made is a heck of a ballyard, wish I could get to a game there.

[arkimadee]

i've been out for the last two days helping my brother clean up from all the flooding his house go so I have missed the reds the last couple of days.. I saw the scores. Yesterday looked like a game that I should have been happy to skip. Is Rolen on the DL?? I guess the Cards have lost 2 straight?? It looks like if the Cards scuffle this weekend the Reds could be back in front. The Astros got knocked around by the pirates.. lol hopefully they trade oswalt before his start tomorrow though

[Reds]

Yesterday looked like a game that I should have been happy to skip. Is Rolen on the DL?? I guess the Cards have lost 2 straight??


Getting Scott Rolen back would help. I think they have to make a call on whether to DL him in the next day or two. -fay

Yeah, the Cards lost in 11 yesterday and got rolled 5-0 this afternoon. Lots of talk on St. Louis radio about how overrated Tony. L. is. because he keeps running their JV squad out there, even though they won 8 in a row with backups playing.

[sivman17]

Wow up to 20 innings without scoring...how can such a powerful Card offense do that?

reds have #1 offense and they have done that multiple times... every team goes through lulls

[texasdave]

Minute Made is a heck of a ballyard, wish I could get to a game there.

I will be there on Saturday to watch the Cueto-Oswalt pitching matchup.:beerme:

[Reds]

I will be there on Saturday to watch the Cueto-Oswalt pitching matchup.:beerme:

Congrats! Is the roof always closed this time of year b/c of the heat? And do they have AC in the stadium, I've heard some retractables don't...

[sabometrics]

I will be there on Saturday to watch the Cueto-Oswalt pitching matchup.:beerme:

Sounds like it could be the LeCure/Oswalt pitching matchup :doh:

[GIDP]

Be patient, swing at good pitches

[Reds]

Sounds like it could be the LeCure/Oswalt pitching matchup :doh:

I wonder if he got the flu from Scotty? Baker makes it sound like he's got a 50/50 chance of recovery by Sunday (he don't know).

[ILoveWilly]

God help us if we can't beat Bud Bundy. Lets go REDS!

[sabometrics]

I hate it when umps don't even bother to appeal. I think he went, but still it's just like, why not make sure you got it right?

[sabometrics]

Norris looks like he's going to make life difficult for us tonight, 2-up, 2-down. Votto to the plate.

[FlyerFanatic]

did o-cab swing at every pitch that at bat? went 0-2 then a fly ball to center for 3 pitches?

[Magdal]

:scared:Norris is not good. This is a Reds win on paper if there ever was one.:scared:

[FlyerFanatic]

bud norris is apparently a cy young. he just made everyone look dumb

[sabometrics]

Norris has the stuff, just rarely puts it together with solid control. Looked sharp that half inning.

[Reds]

2.43 ERA from 'Stros starters over the last 18 games, so they are (as a team) improving

[Red Forman]

Wow...

Chuck Norris is pitchin' for the 'stros????:eek::laugh:

[sabometrics]

It amazes me how the Astros consistently find different no-namers whom I've never heard of to start each successive series against the Reds nowadays. Who were those first couple of guys? Bourgeois? Sanchez?

1st and 2nd now after a laser from Berkman juuust escapes O-Cab's glove.

[arkimadee]

a mistake to lee and it could be 3-0 early

[Redlegs_87]

Wood looks very hittable tonight.

[Reds]

Berkman haunts my dreams. He eats an entire box of Wheaties prior to Reds games. :(

[arkimadee]

well since wood is on the mound those are all the runs they need

[sabometrics]

Hunter has another RBI for his trophycase.

[Redlegs_87]

Gonna be a long night if he gets hit like this all night.

[sabometrics]

Cutter on the fists gets Wood out of the inning. 0-1 after one.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Norris has the stuff, just rarely puts it together with solid control. Looked sharp that half inning.

Yup. He has shown random flashes, hopefully tonight isn't one of those nights. Strikeout totals aren't too bad though. Still a long game. Norris tends to have hiccups towards the middle of his starts, even when he gets off to a good start. Runs can come in bunches in one big inning with this guy.

[Redlegs_87]

Oh look first pitch out.

[redsfan_12]

1 pitch 1 out

[sabometrics]

Great AB Jonny. Jay up now, 1-1 count after a ball low and outside and a foul back to the screen.

[arkimadee]

first 4 hitters are just going through the motions.. so far it looks like this team doesn' have much spark.. hopefully it don't last through the whole game

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Just go to ESPN2 guys and enjoy Brooklyn Decker.

[sabometrics]

When Norris is missing right now against lefties he's missing in the right place, low and away.

[redsfan_12]

jesus Jay..just go sit down in a corner

[sabometrics]

Third K on the night.

[arkimadee]

god this team needs rolen

[sabometrics]

Great piece of hitting as Cairo goes oppo on a low and outside fastball. Double with 2-out.

[arkimadee]

i can't complain about cairo though.. he's the first person to put a good swing on this guy

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Why you guys so doom and gloom after barely 2 innings of baseball in a 1 run game?

[arkimadee]

Why you guys so doom and gloom after barely 2 innings of baseball in a 1 run game?
not doom and gloom.. just saying the hitters looked lifeless to start...

[sabometrics]

As much as I want to keep ragging on that guy because his glove is substandard, he keeps on making up for it with his bat. Hats off to you Miguel, I will cease my attacks (for now) ;)

[Reds]

Cairo is bench MVP, as much as we like to dog him because he replaces our leader

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Norris hitting his spots well thus far

[sabometrics]

Johnson-Quintero-Norris will be due up in the bottom half of the second. Lets get into a groove Travis.

[sabometrics]

Business as usual against Johnson, 4 pitch strike-out for Wood.

[RedsFanInBama]

Who the hell is Bud Norris?

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Wood definitely needs to get the ball down. Someone's going to tag him for a deep ball here he keeps getting the ball up like that.

[Redlegs_87]

Reds wasted great pitching from him last 2 games. Can't expect him to pitch like that all the time. This is probably going to be the game he gets roughed up from the start.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Who the hell is Bud Norris?

That's not a serious question is it? The Astros are in our division, you should know who he is. He was rated as one of their top young arms just last year.

[Reds]

Who the hell is Bud Norris?

? Astros pitcher, had a winning record last year. still young, probably about Cuetos age.

[sabometrics]

If I'm not mistaken we've already gone up against Norris one or two times this year ... don't know how you couldn't be acquainted with him yet.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

If I'm not mistaken we've already gone up against Norris one or two times this year ... don't know how you couldn't be acquainted with him yet.

Once, we tagged him for 5 runs I think in a W

[RedsFanInBama]

I thought he was the guy from that movie, "Swing Vote."

^^^Which I couldn't make it all the way through in two different sittings while picking up where I had previously left off.

[RedsFanInBama]

Well, he's making us look foolish so far. Four K's through 8 batters.

[RedsFanInBama]

Five K's through 9 batters.

[RedsFanInBama]

Nice, Brandon.

[Redlegs_87]

This line up is slumping something fierce.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Norris didn't throw a ball that whole inning.

[AintlifeGrande]

If I recall Norris did a number on us at home.

[FlyerFanatic]

This line up is slumping something fierce.

uhhhh have you seen our ranks in the offensive categories? ;)

[RedsFanInBama]

That a guy has five strikeouts through three innings and still has only thrown 31 pitches speaks volumes for how poor our at-bats are.

[arkimadee]

ZZZZZZZZZ

[Redlegs_87]

uhhhh have you seen our ranks in the offensive categories? ;)

I am talking about right now.

[AintlifeGrande]

Our offense in a rut?Your kidding.Time to blame Cabrera.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

That a guy has five strikeouts through three innings and still has only thrown 31 pitches speaks volumes for how poor our at-bats are.

If we were swinging at balls I would be much more alarmed, but Norris is throwing pitches right down the zone tonight. You can't try and work the count when someone isn't going to throw a ball. It is okay to give an opposing pitcher credit from time to time, that is allowed.

[FlyerFanatic]

I am talking about right now.

haha i know, im just being sarcastic. a lot of times people post our offensive rankings and why the reds dont need another bat in the lineup :p:

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

If I recall Norris did a number on us at home.

5 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4BB, 6K.... Reds won 6-2

[arkimadee]

lets get this guy some run support next inning.. good lord

[sabometrics]

5 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4BB, 6K.... Reds won 6-2

That game was pretty similar to this one iirc. 'Stros got up early, Norris cruising, then he self-destructed in the 5th. Lets hope he self-destructs.

[AintlifeGrande]

Thanks Dale,I was too lazy to look it up.lol

[RedsFanInBama]

Good inning by Wood.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

That game was pretty similar to this one iirc. 'Stros got up early, Norris cruising, then he self-destructed in the 5th. Lets hope he self-destructs.

Goes with the point I made earlier, Norris has gotten off to a ton of good starts in games only to have that one bad inning that ruins the game for him. Can never seem to put it together for 7 or so innings. Hopefully the trend holds true.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Wood is still making me nervous leaving the ball up in the zone a lot tonight, but no one has really made him pay yet.

[AintlifeGrande]

Pence did.

[RedsFanInBama]

The Phillies chased Aaron Cook early tonight. Yes, the same Aaron Cook that shoved it up our butts.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

The Phillies chased Aaron Cook early tonight. Yes, the same Aaron Cook that shoved it up our butts.

Because everyone always plays the same exact way on different days :confused:

[redsfan_12]

There ya go OCAB! lets go Joey!

[ILoveWilly]

Alright guys, time to wake up here. Sick of losing to division cellar dwellars.

[arkimadee]

good break.. lets take advantage

[RedsFanInBama]

Because everyone always plays the same exact way on different days :confused:

Exactly.

[AintlifeGrande]

There ya go OC.Take that BRM7576 lol.

[arkimadee]

make it 2-1 here joey

[RedsFanInBama]

He's scared of Joey.

[sabometrics]

He's losing it boys!

[arkimadee]

There ya go OC.Take that BRM7576 lol.
man that guy really hates dusty and OCAB doesn't he

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Norris avoiding Votto like the plague

[RedsFanInBama]

Whoa. Ump might have missed that one.

[rolenmvp]

walked him..2 on nobody outs for gomes..

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

That was a strike, bad call by ump. Good pitch by Bud.

[AintlifeGrande]

man that guy really hates dusty and OCAB doesn't he


Nah,he's just frustrated.

[sabometrics]

Yeah, that looked real good to me too. Even Votto was hesitant to go to 1st.

[RedsFanInBama]

No, I'm pretty sure he really hates them.

[arkimadee]

ah it's not that bad for the stros that he walked.. they have a double play chance

[sabometrics]

Norris gets behind Gomes and Quintero has to come out to the mound to settle him down.

Big time opportunity here.

[rolenmvp]

come on jonny..good time for your 100th homerun.

[sabometrics]

One poor play behind him and this kid is coming apart at the seams.

[rolenmvp]

don't do nothing stupid gomes...

[arkimadee]

man everytime they show that stupid graphic of gomes with risp he doesn't do anything.. quit showing that graphic.. lol

[RedsFanInBama]

Alright. Here we go, Bruce.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

This is where Norris struggles when he starts walking batters. This is the inning where we need to do some damage right now!

[rolenmvp]

walked him...

[redsfan_12]

loaded no outs..Jay will ground into a triple play lmao..

seriously..lets get some runs!!

[sabometrics]

We're in business. Bases loaded after Gomes walks.

[arkimadee]

if we don't get travis wood a run here i'm going to the bar

[ILoveWilly]

Last time in this situation, we got all of one run. Wonder if things changed for the better.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Where were the ones complaining about us not working the count now?

[AintlifeGrande]

Cmon Bruce,do it for the home folks.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Bruce is due

[sabometrics]

Self destruct in 3 ... 2 ...

[rolenmvp]

i'd love to see a grandslam!!

[rolenmvp]

brucey your due my man..

[arkimadee]

man norris is not getting a good strike zone.. lol oh well im not complaining

[redsfan_12]

2-0

[AintlifeGrande]

We better pounce!

[sabometrics]

... 1 ...

[redsfan_12]

3-0

[RedsFanInBama]

Take, take, take, take.

[ILoveWilly]

Comeon, walk him Grandmaster B

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

3-0 green light?

[rolenmvp]

I would't...

[redsfan_12]

wow..that was close

[sabometrics]

Make-up call if I've ever seen one.

[redsfan_12]

that will work..

[arkimadee]

:beerme: hey we got travis a run!!!! cheers everyone good baserunning by votto

[rolenmvp]

bruce did a good job there...

[sabometrics]

Some WTP nets the Reds a run to tie it up and advances Votto to third.

[RedsFanInBama]

GREAT baserunning by Votto and especially Gomes.

[AintlifeGrande]

We gotta get crunk this inning.

[davereds24]

Wow finally a productive out for Brucey, way to go!

[rolenmvp]

come on miggy...

[sabometrics]

Hottest bat in the lineup at the plate.

[redsfan_12]

Im confident in Miguel here.

[arkimadee]

how did we get a run yesterday?? i missed it

[arkimadee]

i wish it was miguel cabrera thom brennaman

[rolenmvp]

groundout i think..

[RedsFanInBama]

Come on, gotta hang in there and get it done Cairo.

[redsfan_12]

Way to take it Miguel!!

[RedsFanInBama]

Oh crap. There's another hurt third baseman.

[sabometrics]

YOUCH

That'll leave a mark.

[arkimadee]

take one for the team baby!! lets get some damage..

[rolenmvp]

gosh..he hit him good..

[RedsFanInBama]

I hate Stubbs in these situations. Prove me wrong Drew.

[rolenmvp]

bet that one hurt...

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

bunt lol

[sabometrics]

First pitch? Why?

[RedsFanInBama]

What an awful, awful at-bat.

[redsfan_12]

damnit..all we will get is 1 run..

pathetic.

[ILoveWilly]

Great AB Stubbs. No wonder we need a CF'er.

[rolenmvp]

what the crud is stubbs doing....

[arkimadee]

drew is killing us

[rolenmvp]

my gosh stubbs that was stupid..stupid stupid...

[arkimadee]

id like to see a walk here

[RedsFanInBama]

That was a pitch to hit.

[AintlifeGrande]

This will suck major if all we come away with is 1.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Stubbs guy hasn't been finding the zone this inning and you do that? Now that is very foolish. Go find some pine.

[sabometrics]

Feels like ... 2 days ago.

[arkimadee]

this guy has a good fastball.. 96

[rolenmvp]

hanigan is not the same hitter like he was before the injury. marty talking about it on the radio.

[arkimadee]

good lord i love this ump

[redsfan_12]

thank you!!!

Nice distracting by Cairo!

[ILoveWilly]

YES! Wow. That's how you have an AB.

[sabometrics]

Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing eye single! I'll take it!

[rolenmvp]

YESSSSSSSS ryan hanigan....

[arkimadee]

!!!!!! there you go han dog

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Take note STUBBS!

[redsrolen]

My husband said things about Stubbs that I can never repeat!!

ALRIGHT HANNIGAN!!!!!!

[RedsFanInBama]

damnit..all we will get is 1 run..

pathetic.

You were saying? :lol:

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

chiddy bang

[FlyerFanatic]

hanigan always comes through with RISP.

[rolenmvp]

did anybody hear marty ripping stubbs?

[AintlifeGrande]

Chris quit whining about how the other teams skipper should be griping about the single.

[arkimadee]

did anybody hear marty ripping stubbs?
haha no what did he say?? i wish i would have heard it

[Magdal]

Smartest base running I've seen all year! WTG Cairo!

[RedsFanInBama]

The FS Ohio guys were, too, although I'm sure they weren't as harsh as Marty.

[FlyerFanatic]

i missed the stubbs at bat, what happened?

[RedsFanInBama]

Is this the most run support that Wood has had so far?

[rolenmvp]

said it was inexcuseable, marty's exact words. : why would you swing at the first pitch, when the guy has been throwing zero strikes in the zone, why do you do it, is it a brain cramp, i just don't understand it, why swing when he's been all over the place, doesn't make sense cowboy.

[arkimadee]

i missed the stubbs at bat, what happened?
first pitch fielders choice to short with the bases loaded and norris not able to throw strikes in the previous atbat

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

i missed the stubbs at bat, what happened?

Goes up first pitch swinging. It was a strike but Norris was all over the place this inning and he should have taken the first pitch.

[RedsFanInBama]

Plus it was a slider that he swung at.

[FlyerFanatic]

i see dusty has got to stubbs

hack away, dude

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

i see dusty has got to stubbs

hack away, dude

:rolleyes:

[AintlifeGrande]

Settle in and deal Wood.

[rolenmvp]

marty just made a interesting point, said this is the most run support for wood since him being called up. just thought you'd like to know.

[RedsFanInBama]

Is it a coincidence that Wood has some run support in the first game that Corky Miller (God love him) isn't catching him? I love Corky and his 'stache, but I don't think he would have come through last inning like Hanny did.

[RedsFanInBama]

I hate watching Hunter Pence play baseball.

[AintlifeGrande]

Set em up for the double play.

[sabometrics]

Hunter tomahawks one into LF for a single ... another kill for him on the day.

[redsfan_12]

You were saying? :lol:

Better to be lucky than good ;) lol... I had no confidence in Hanigan. Glad he fooled me

[sabometrics]

Jeff Keppinger can just flat out hit

singles.

[RedsFanInBama]

Wood just doesn't seem nearly as sharp tonight as he was his first few times out.

[RedsFanInBama]

That's pitiful.

[Redlegs_87]

Bruce would have had him out!

[sabometrics]

He's not missing by much. He's come very close to a lot of called strikes.

Aaaand Brandon is caught snoozing.

[redsfan_12]

Cmon Brandon!!! Thats Jays ball!!

[ILoveWilly]

Jeff Keppinger can just flat out hit

singles.

Sad thing is, if we had kept him he would be a much better SS than ones we've had the past several years. I don't even remember why we got rid of him.

Wow horrible play Phillips. you should have let Bruce catch it.

[davereds24]

terrible

[FlyerFanatic]

wow

[RedsFanInBama]

Cmon Brandon!!! Thats Jays ball!!

Then he should have taken control. I blame Bruce there.

[sabometrics]

You could see Jay yelling, but he was clearly not asserting himself enough there.

[redsfan_12]

Then he should have taken control. I blame Bruce there.

He backed off because Phillips was calling for it. I dont think Phillips thought he was going to go.

[rolenmvp]

marty giving bp down the road..

[RedsFanInBama]

He was yelling at him to throw the ball home, not calling for the ball. Brandon was caught with his pants down for sure, but Bruce was never coming hard after that ball.

[arkimadee]

well all in all it could of been worse... but a bad baseball play by brandon

[davereds24]

well all in all it could of been worse... but a bad baseball play by brandon

He didn't do anything wrong, he can't see where the RF is, it's Bruce's job to call him off even if BP is calling for it.

[Redlegs_87]

:|

[redsfan_12]

Another good ab from Brandon

[RedsFanInBama]

He didn't do anything wrong, he can't see where the RF is, it's Bruce's job to call him off even if BP is calling for it.

I agree that Bruce is to blame for not catching it, but Brandon should have been more prepared to throw home there. You have to know you have a speedy runner at third. He was definitely caught snoozing on the second half of the play.

[FlyerFanatic]

hack away dudes

[redsfan_12]

He was yelling at him to throw the ball home, not calling for the ball. Brandon was caught with his pants down for sure, but Bruce was never coming hard after that ball.

agreed. Definately Bruce's fault. but a dumb play by brandon. Guess its both their faults lol

[RedsFanInBama]

Brandon has seen two pitches in his last two at-bats. Way to be a leadoff.

[Redlegs_87]

Guess our hitters forgot all about him being crappy last inning making him look cy young again.

[FlyerFanatic]

wooo!

[RedsFanInBama]

Wow. That was a piss rod.

[sabometrics]

Guess our hitters forgot all about him being crappy last inning making him look cy young again.

looooooooooooooool

[redsfan_12]

Ats my boy Joey!!!

[ILoveWilly]

DEL VOT IT

[RedsFanInBama]

Getcha some, Jonny.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

JACK!

[Redlegs_87]

Ok Travis lets go get em!

[RedsFanInBama]

I'm glad that Reds fan had a glove in the stands because that ball was going to hurt someone otherwise.

[AintlifeGrande]

I sat here and said ''Cmon Joey,where is our MVP?And he crushed that one.

[RedsFanInBama]

I sat here and said ''Cmon Joey,where is our MVP?And he crushed that one.

I was thinking to myself before that swing, "Man, Joey can't buy a hit lately."

[RedsFanInBama]

Oh Jeez.

[redsfan_12]

The pitcher?? Dohhh

[RedsFanInBama]

Take a bow, Bud. You've just hit the first double of your career.

[AintlifeGrande]

Get the BP up Dusty.

[RedsFanInBama]

One more out here Travis.

[RedsFanInBama]

The Astros are squaring him up this inning.

[RedsFanInBama]

Not sure where that pitch was.

[RedsFanInBama]

YES!!!!!!

[redsfan_12]

Nice!!!!

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Bad start, finish strong... no harm no foul

[AintlifeGrande]

Thom B.is bordering on Keels announcing.Big K there and its just strike three and that will end the inning.

[RedsFanInBama]

Travis with 81 pitches through 5.

[redsfan_12]

Thom B.is bordering on Keels announcing.Big K there and its just strike three and that will end the inning.

Did you just compare Thom and Keels together? lol

[Redlegs_87]

Bruce strikes on the edge are killing him.

[sabometrics]

Jay rolls over on a ball outside. 1 down.

[AintlifeGrande]

Stubbs doubled the other night to left center and Thom was not even showing any enthusiasm.I was not sure if the guy caught it or not.

[GIDP]

Bruce strikes on the edge are killing him.

Most of them are balls as well. He gets that low outside pitch called a strike on him more than anyone I've seen while watching the Reds this year. He never offers at it until 2 strikes at least.

[redsfan_12]

tough break

[ILoveWilly]

Stubbs isn't getting it done, he's so streaky. I hope Dickerson can come up and get some starts soon.

[RedsFanInBama]

Jay rolls over on a ball outside. 1 down.

I do wish he'd at least consider using the middle of the field. I know he hit one to left in the previous at-bat, but I think it was more a case of the fastball beating him a little than him intentionally going with the pitch.

[AintlifeGrande]

''Not too early to mention talking about the wild card''.Another great Thom B quote.Reds are duking it out for the division,and that's the last thing Reds nation wants to hear.

[sabometrics]

Playoffs are playoffs. Thom can talk wild card all he wants imo.

[AintlifeGrande]

I miss George,at least he didn't try to act smarter than he was.

[RedsFanInBama]

I miss George.

That's surprising. ;)