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OnBaseMachine
08-01-2010, 02:12 PM
From John Fay:


Russ Springer is returning to the major leagues.

Springer, the Pollock resident and former LSU star, will join the Reds on Monday in Pittsburgh, Springer had been pitching for the Redsí class AAA affiliate in Louisville, Ky., for the last two weeks.

In seven appearances with the Louisville Bats, Springer did not allow a run in 6 1/3 innings. He allowed two hits with two walks and five strikeouts.



Reds officials have not announced the move but Springer notified friends in Central Louisiana on Sunday that he was on his way to Pittsburgh to join the team.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/08/01/reds-lineup-60/

I wonder who he's replacing? Carlos Fisher? Fisher has pitched 4.2 shutout innings with no walks and 5 K's since returning so I don't reall understand sending him down, assuming that's who he's replacing.

dougdirt
08-01-2010, 02:29 PM
Fisher is a rookie. Springer is a vet. Fisher is the last guy in the bullpen to go to. I don't really have an issue with the move at this point, if that is the guy they are sending down.

Tom Servo
08-01-2010, 02:32 PM
I still don't have any real confidence in Fisher, but that's just me. I'd be okay with this move.

Joseph
08-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I'd be ok with that particular move as well. It's the most logical of ones that are likely/realistic to make.

RedsManRick
08-01-2010, 03:21 PM
Given that Dusty was only using Fisher in a long man role, that's not a huge loss.

reds44
08-01-2010, 03:26 PM
As long as it's Fisher, it's fine.

oregonred
08-01-2010, 03:29 PM
Time for Walt to see what he's got in L-Ville so he can figure out if he needs a waivers relief arm by mid/late August. It will be the volleyball-ocracy until somebody can be productive and sticks (Springer, Burton, Izzy and then Chapman). Otherwise, rotate to the next guy and rinse-repeat.

toledodan
08-01-2010, 03:50 PM
this is walt's big move for us!:D

Ron Madden
08-01-2010, 04:11 PM
I hope Jordan Smith stays on the 25 man roster.

REDSEER
08-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Not only is an active roster spot needed; so is a 40-man roster spot. Only thing I can see is Homer to the 60-day DL. I'm not sure what else can be done without exposing a quality player to waivers.

SirFelixCat
08-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Not only is an active roster spot needed; so is a 40-man roster spot. Only thing I can see is Homer to the 60-day DL. I'm not sure what else can be done without exposing a quality player to waivers.

Rumor was Harang to the 60-day DL.

reds44
08-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Official word:

m_sheldon Fisher optioned to AAA Louisville. #reds purchase contract of RHP Russ Springer

RedLegSuperStar
08-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Bray would be an option to. Springer has been to good to leave down there. Dickerson should be coming with him.

RedLegSuperStar
08-01-2010, 04:42 PM
Not only is an active roster spot needed; so is a 40-man roster spot. Only thing I can see is Homer to the 60-day DL. I'm not sure what else can be done without exposing a quality player to waivers.

Homer is rehabing and about a start or two away from making it back

Mario-Rijo
08-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Rumor was Harang to the 60-day DL.

Hmm, interesting development. I hate to say it but it is the best thing for all if true. Aaron it was good seeing your best, have fun in S.D. next year. You'll always be a Red though.

UKFlounder
08-01-2010, 05:56 PM
I thought the Reds had an open spot on the 40 man roster

RedsMan3203
08-01-2010, 05:58 PM
Its time to see what the Reds have in the minors...

I'm sure we will see Izzy, Chapman and Burton sometime this month....

I'm guessing Chapman will be here for the Cards series coming up...

Is Mike Lincoln on the 60 day yet?

Redsfan320
08-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Is Mike Lincoln on the 60 day yet?

Yes.

320

Danny Serafini
08-01-2010, 07:24 PM
I thought the Reds had an open spot on the 40 man roster

They do, so Springer will fill the open slot.

Tony Cloninger
08-01-2010, 09:56 PM
I thought Fisher looked good in the long man role. They need a hitter from AAA more than a reliever.

reds44
08-01-2010, 09:57 PM
They're going to have to make a spot on the 4th though because Dickerson's rehab time runs out. Even if they option him to AAA (which they could do), he has to come off the 60 day DL.

Big Klu
08-02-2010, 01:09 AM
They're going to have to make a spot on the 4th though because Dickerson's rehab time runs out. Even if they option him to AAA (which they could do), he has to come off the 60 day DL.

Or they could just leave him on the DL.

reds44
08-02-2010, 01:12 AM
Or they could just leave him on the DL.
So you're just going to let him rot on the DL and not play anywhere?

Yeah, Drew Sutton isn't worth that.

Big Klu
08-02-2010, 03:07 AM
So you're just going to let him rot on the DL and not play anywhere?

Yeah, Drew Sutton isn't worth that.

I didn't say that's what they should do--it's just that it is an option that is available.

camisadelgolf
08-02-2010, 03:43 AM
I didn't say that's what they should do--it's just that it is an option that is available.
I really don't think CD would let that happen. He has absolutely no incentive to, and even if he did, the MLBPA would likely throw fits about it if they found out about it.

redsmetz
08-02-2010, 05:51 AM
Or they could just leave him on the DL.

Since he's been on a rehab assignment, there's a 20 day limit to that. They'll have either call him up or option him. They can't just leave him on there unless something happens that legitimately warrants him not playing do to a recurrence of an injury.

REDREAD
08-02-2010, 09:50 AM
I'm guessing Dickerson might be exposed to waivers, if it gets down to that.

He's the 6th OF. One can argue that he should be ahead of Nix, but that's not likely how the FO sees it.

I think Dickerson is a better talent than Sutton, but unfortunately, Sutton is the first backup INF out of AAA. With Rolen's health issues, they kind of need to keep him.

nemesis
08-02-2010, 10:33 AM
Dickerson has become the Backup QB on this years team hasn't he?

His numbers on the surface look ok, but digging deeper he is really struggling to make contact.

He has struck out 13 times in his last 10 games in 34 AB's. (38.2%) Against AAA pitching. This was following 19 K in 44 AB's in Cincy. (43.2%)

Stubbs for all his K's is below both numbers and been in Cincy all year. (32.2%) How is Dickerson an upgrade? Stubbs K rate in July was actually better than June (34.5% June vs 31.5% in July)

Dickerson isn't even an upgrade over Nix IMO.

Nix at least provides power (.456 SLG%) and has an overall .772 OPS.

That's higher than Posednik (.748), Kearns (.768), Ankiel (.764), Peralta (.728), Cantu (.715), Callapso (.710), Tejada (.650), Theriot (.640) and Smoak (.624). All the major bats traded at the deadline. Players that these teams got to UPGRADE their team.

The only two position players traded with a higher OPS than Nix? Ludwick (.828) and Berkman (.794). Yet most this board wants to replace him with the human air conditioner. Wow.

Cedric
08-02-2010, 10:35 AM
Dickerson has become the Backup QB on this years team hasn't he?

His numbers on the surface look ok, but digging deeper he is really struggling to make contact.

He has struck out 13 times in his last 10 games in 34 AB's. (38.2%) Against AAA pitching. This was following 19 K in 44 AB's in Cincy. (43.2%)

Stubbs for all his K's is below both numbers and been in Cincy all year. (32.2%) How is Dickerson an upgrade? Stubbs K rate in July was actually better than June (34.5% June vs 31.5% in July)

Dickerson isn't even an upgrade over Nix IMO.

Nix at least provides power (.456 SLG%) and has an overall .772 OPS.

That's higher than Posednik (.748), Kearns (.768), Ankiel (.764), Peralta (.728), Cantu (.715), Callapso (.710), Tejada (.650), Theriot (.640) and Smoak (.624). All the major bats traded at the deadline. Players that these teams got to UPGRADE their team.

The only two position players traded with a higher OPS than Nix? Ludwick (.828) and Berkman (.794). Yet most this board wants to replace him with the human air conditioner. Wow.

Expose Nix to the same at bats as those other guys and I bet the ranch it's not close in terms of numbers.

flyer85
08-02-2010, 10:39 AM
both are fungible. I never did see the point of Springer in the first place. Want a difference maker then bring up Chapman.

nemesis
08-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Expose Nix to the same at bats as those other guys and I bet the ranch it's not close in terms of numbers.

Disagree.

Nix did get over 300 AB's last season and posted .767 OPS. He is performing right in line with what he did last year. Factor in his stellar defense (+22.8 UZR 150) he is projected to be a 1 WAR player off the bench.

RedsManRick
08-02-2010, 11:18 AM
Disagree.

Nix did get over 300 AB's last season and posted .767 OPS. He is performing right in line with what he did last year. Factor in his stellar defense (+22.8 UZR 150) he is projected to be a 1 WAR player off the bench.

Given that Dickerson is a better defensive CF (freeing up Heisey to sub in a corner OF spot), can get on base and can run, I'd prefer him. If you want a power bat on the bench, start Hesiey in LF.

nate
08-02-2010, 11:35 AM
When you compare career numbers rather than 100-odd PAs, one finds Dickerson is superior to Nix with the glove and bat; it's not really even close.

The Reds OF depth chart should read:

Bruce
Stubbs
Hesiey/Dickerson
Gomes

I think that would be pretty productive. One could even fashion a 5-man platoon so everyone gets a chance to play.

Anyhow, how about that Russ Springer? He seems like a heckuva guy!

dsmith421
08-02-2010, 11:49 AM
I'm wondering if maybe the thought is that Springer, with his veteran intangitude, could pitch the ninth when Cordero is worn out, so as to avoid adjusting Masset and Rhodes' roles.

Redsfan320
08-02-2010, 12:27 PM
He's been added to the active roster, wearing #50.

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The Voice of IH
08-02-2010, 09:38 PM
so far....so good :thumbup:

paulrichjr
08-03-2010, 12:20 AM
Springer grew up a Big Red Machine fan. He had other offers but wanted to wear the uniform of his favorite team. I like that.

Oh yea I love the fact that he wrote about Johnny Bench 3 different years in school and was finally told to change his topic. Reminds me of myself... I saw my 6th grade English teacher a couple of years ago and the first thing she said to me was something about the Reds. I said...How did you remember that I was a fan of the Reds and she proceeded to look at me like I had just said something obviously stupid and then said something about all of my papers being about them.


http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100802&content_id=12936504&notebook_id=12936508&vkey=notebook_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Falls City Beer
08-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Looked really good last night. Efficient, threw strikes; they were getting bad swings. Looks like a smart pick-up.

flyer85
08-03-2010, 11:18 AM
Looked really good last night. Efficient, threw strikes; they were getting bad swings.
that's them Pirates.

OnBaseMachine
08-03-2010, 11:59 AM
I agree that Springer looked good last night but what scares me about him is he's an extreme flyball pitcher (career 52.8 FB%). That could be scary in GABP.

Falls City Beer
08-03-2010, 12:37 PM
I agree that Springer looked good last night but what scares me about him is he's an extreme flyball pitcher (career 52.8 FB%). That could be scary in GABP.

As long as it doesn't leave the park, FB pitchers tend to see fewer hits fall behind them. And this defense is outstanding.

Falls City Beer
08-03-2010, 12:50 PM
that's them Pirates.

Sure. But results aside, his stuff looked good. I felt the same way about Jordan Smith before his ERA started to drop. Give him the ball, the results will happen.