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RedsFanInBama
08-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Obviously by moving him to the bullpen, Chapman's innings have been cut way back from what he was projected to throw at the start of the season. Will the Reds look to stretch him out by sending him to a fall or winter league, or will they just begin anew with him as a starter next spring.

cinreds21
08-02-2010, 03:13 PM
That's a good question. I'd guess they'd send him to the AFL, if anything.

mth123
08-02-2010, 08:02 PM
That's a good question. I'd guess they'd send him to the AFL, if anything.

Can he go to the AFL? I thought the players were only eligible for the AFL if they were ineligible for any other winter league (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Venezuelan etc). Not sure what his status is as a Cuban defector.

cinreds21
08-02-2010, 08:10 PM
Can he go to the AFL? I thought the players were only eligible for the AFL if they were ineligible for any other winter league (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Venezuelan etc). Not sure what his status is as a Cuban defector.

I've never heard of that rule. I say AFL because they would be able to monitor him a lot easier than if he was in Hawaii or the Dominican or anywhere else. And why would anyone not be eligible to go anywhere else? The AFL really is for "prospects" for the most part.

mth123
08-02-2010, 08:52 PM
I've never heard of that rule. I say AFL because they would be able to monitor him a lot easier than if he was in Hawaii or the Dominican or anywhere else. And why would anyone not be eligible to go anywhere else? The AFL really is for "prospects" for the most part.

Here is what I was thinking of. This is from wikipedia




Each August, Major League Baseball clubs hold a position draft to determine the players who will go to Arizona. Most are Double-A and Triple-A Minor League players. Each club can opt to send one player considered a Single-A player. Only one foreign player is allowed, but only if that player does not come from a region that participates in winter ball. The league is designed for these prospects to refine their skills and perform in game settings in front of major and minor league baseball scouts and team executives, who are in attendance at almost every game. Play begins shortly after the end of MLB's regular season in early October, and ends in mid-November.

The Arizona Fall League teams are not exclusive affiliates of any one team; instead, each Major League team provides seven players who team up to fill the 35-man roster of each team. Additionally, teams may elect to send Taxi Squad players who are only eligible on Wednesdays and Saturdays. MLB teams also provide managers, coaches, and trainers. The affiliations generally change every year.



http://www.ask.com/wiki/Arizona_Fall_League

Looks like the Reds could send Chapman.

cinreds21
08-02-2010, 09:05 PM
Did not know about the foreign rule. That's interesting.

mth123
08-02-2010, 09:27 PM
Did not know about the foreign rule. That's interesting.

The thing about Chapman is where he has declared his country of residence. If its the US, he can play. If he is going to reside in Puerto Rico, the Dominican, etc. He won't be eligible for AFL and will have to play in one of those winter leagues. Not sure it matters much, though the AFL fnishes sooner to get him rest for 2011.

I'm not convinced he'll pitch anywhere if the Reds aren't in control.

zjr1717
08-03-2010, 08:05 PM
The thing about Chapman is where he has declared his country of residence. If its the US, he can play. If he is going to reside in Puerto Rico, the Dominican, etc. He won't be eligible for AFL and will have to play in one of those winter leagues. Not sure it matters much, though the AFL fnishes sooner to get him rest for 2011.

I'm not convinced he'll pitch anywhere if the Reds aren't in control.

IIRC I thought he established his place of residence in Florida, or was it Arizona? That might of been just for ST but I can't shake the memory of that being stated.

As such a high profile refugee/expat from Cuba I would think it would be much safer for him to be in the US anyway.

11larkin11
08-03-2010, 09:13 PM
He originally established his place of residency as the Netherlands, not sure if thats changed.

camisadelgolf
08-03-2010, 09:16 PM
He originally established his place of residency as the Netherlands, not sure if thats changed.
He actually established his residency in Andorra, a small country in Europe. It was a financial maneuver.

zjr1717
08-03-2010, 09:20 PM
He actually established his residency in Andorra, a small country in Europe. It was a financial maneuver.

I thought that was temporary until he found a team, or is he still there for financial (tax shelter) purposes?

camisadelgolf
08-03-2010, 09:21 PM
I thought that was temporary until he found a team, or is he still there for financial (tax shelter) purposes?
He did it almost a year ago. I doubt it's changed since then.

medford
08-04-2010, 01:24 PM
question, do we know what his projected number of innings was this season? I thought I read back in ST that he didn't throw much last year due to the defection, and had only thrown a little over 100 innings in any season in Cuba. Perhaps the plan all along was to get him about 120 to 130ish innings, which is kind of where he seems to be headed.

OnBaseMachine
08-05-2010, 03:41 AM
Buster Olney has a great article up on Chapman. He mentions the possibility of Chapman pitching in the Arizona Fall League as he makes the transition back to being a starter.


Eventually, Chapman will transition back into a starter's role -- perhaps in the Arizona Fall League, as Jocketty mentioned, or next spring. But in the not-so-distant future, he probably will create problems for NL hitters. "He's throwing strikes with all of his pitches," said Jocketty, who, like Power, has never seen anyone with an arm like Chapman's.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/notebook/_/page/bbtn100805/baseball-tonight-clubhouse