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Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 11:12 AM
Phillips 2B
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Gomes LF
Nix RF
Francisco 3B
Hernandez C
Janish SS
Cueto P

NJReds
08-04-2010, 11:16 AM
Good to see Votto back in the lineup.

HeatherC1212
08-04-2010, 11:45 AM
I like the lineup and I'm VERY glad Joey is back in there! :thumbup:

HotCorner
08-04-2010, 11:52 AM
Heisey 2? Janish 8? The catcher batting higher than 8th?

I think my head might explode. ;)

top6
08-04-2010, 11:52 AM
omg, i like this lineup!! is dusty's evil twin managing today???

mbgrayson
08-04-2010, 12:02 PM
For those of you who are out of the blackout area, the game is televised on DirecTV channel 721-1 for HD.

medford
08-04-2010, 12:03 PM
another day w/o Stubbs. I'm starting to believe that when Dickerson gets back (I believe they mentioned last night that he had a death in the family recently and were surprised he even played in AAA last night, but thought he was heading back to Cali for a few days to honor the deceased) that Stubbs will be sent down to AAA. That in turn makes me wonder if Bruce is about to lose his everyday status to Heisey once Dickerson is back.

Kc61
08-04-2010, 12:25 PM
another day w/o Stubbs. I'm starting to believe that when Dickerson gets back (I believe they mentioned last night that he had a death in the family recently and were surprised he even played in AAA last night, but thought he was heading back to Cali for a few days to honor the deceased) that Stubbs will be sent down to AAA. That in turn makes me wonder if Bruce is about to lose his everyday status to Heisey once Dickerson is back.


Reds have to figure out this outfield thing before the Cardinal series. So I agree that Dickerson could be with the team in Chicago to see how he does.

Right now the only outfielder hitting is Heisey. So he should be out there every day. The other two spots are up for grabs and the Reds need to make some decisions in the next few days.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 12:42 PM
I like this lineup. Just think when Rolen's in it tomorrow we have:

Phillips 2B
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Nix or Bruce, one has to wonder if this is just a one-day move RF
Hernandez or Hanigan C
Janish or Cabrera when he gets back, hopefully he still bats 8th SS
Pitcher P

I like it. A lot.

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Far East
08-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Hernandez can probably handle it, but the Reds have the older of their two catchers playing a noon-ish game following a late night game. Does he usually catch Cueto and Volquez?

VR
08-04-2010, 12:49 PM
Reds have to figure out this outfield thing before the Cardinal series. So I agree that Dickerson could be with the team in Chicago to see how he does.

Right now the only outfielder hitting is Heisey. So he should be out there every day. The other two spots are up for grabs and the Reds need to make some decisions in the next few days.

He's almost been as hot as Nix. Almost.

LincolnparkRed
08-04-2010, 12:51 PM
I think we just need a 5 spot in the 1st, just to show them we are serious and then let Cueto coast from there

reds44
08-04-2010, 12:56 PM
I actually like this lineup a lot.

And I fully expect Stubbs to be sent down when Dickerson is called up. It seems as if Dusty has lost all faith in him. Not only has he not started the last four games, he hasn't even played.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:16 PM
I will do some PBP.

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Chip R
08-04-2010, 01:22 PM
Hernandez can probably handle it, but the Reds have the older of their two catchers playing a noon-ish game following a late night game. Does he usually catch Cueto and Volquez?

There is a day off tomorrow so that should take some of the sting out of it.

dsmith421
08-04-2010, 01:30 PM
Guessing that Votto won't see a whole lot of pitches to hit today.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:37 PM
We are go
Phillips up

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nate
08-04-2010, 01:37 PM
Chat is open.

reds44
08-04-2010, 01:38 PM
Good start. I would just like to say how awful the Pirates announcers are.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:39 PM
McCutchen


Milledge Young


Cedeno Walker


Alavarez Karstens Jones


Snyder

1B
0 out
Runner on 1st
Heisey up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:41 PM
HBP?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Nope. Knob of the bat. Foul ball.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:42 PM
How's it goin', Sir Charles?

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:42 PM
Good. Off work early, listening to Marty & Jeff, then heading to the movies later. :O)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:43 PM
Phillips nailed at second. He's looked pretty bad this year stealing. Bad, BAD jumps.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:44 PM
Cool. What movie? Let me guess: Inception?

CS(2) 2-4/ Phillips
1 out
Heisey (still up)

1-3
2 out
Votto up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:44 PM
Heisey grounds back to Karstens for out #2. Votto up with nobody on. *sigh*

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:44 PM
Nope. Either Salt or Dinner for Schmucks. I'll leave it up to my wife. No desire to see Inception.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:45 PM
I see.

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reds44
08-04-2010, 01:46 PM
Votto is good.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:46 PM
Votto. Hitting. Machine.

2 bagger. CS costs 1 run.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:46 PM
2B
Runner on 2nd
2 out
Gomes up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Every player on the team needs to "tweek" their wrists. *grin*

Cedric
08-04-2010, 01:47 PM
I don't want another runner taking off when Votto is due up in the inning. Ever.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:48 PM
Every player on the team needs to "tweek" their wrists. *grin*

Then Cairo would have to play everywhere for a few days. :eek: I don't think even he could handle that.

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:48 PM
LATE BATTING ORDER CHANGE: Francisco is batting 5th, then Nix

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reds44
08-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Gomes pops up more than any play ever.

He refuses to walk too.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:49 PM
4
3 out
Top of 1st over
McCutchen up

0-0

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Kc61
08-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Terrible inning, but the good news is that Votto looks ok.

But Phillips has to get a better jump, Gomes has to hit with RISP again.

Hope Cueto is on today.

Always Red
08-04-2010, 01:50 PM
Gomes pops up more than any play ever.

He refuses to walk too.

The magic spell has passed, and he is just back to being Johnny Gomes again. :(

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 01:50 PM
Gomes pops up more than any play ever.



Its the helmet bobbing thing. His eyeballs are still rattling around.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:51 PM
Heisey


Gomes Nix



Janish Phillips


Francisco Cueto Votto


Hernandez

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TheNext44
08-04-2010, 01:51 PM
Nope. Either Salt or Dinner for Schmucks. I'll leave it up to my wife. No desire to see Inception.

Salt has good action, but it's plot has more holes in it than Jay Bruce's swing. And you're not missing much with Inception. An overrated Matrix rip off.

Cedric
08-04-2010, 01:51 PM
If a pitcher is able to hit anywhere on the inside half Gomes is out. He jams himself every swing.

TheNext44
08-04-2010, 01:52 PM
Terrible inning, but the good news is that Votto looks ok.

But Phillips has to get a better jump, Gomes has to hit with RISP again.

Hope Cueto is on today.

Phillips just needs to stop stealing bases. He's been dreadful this season.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:52 PM
Someone else will have to do the 2nd while I grab some lunch, then I can take back over in the 3rd.

HR, RBI, R
0 out
Young up

SCORE CHANGE: 1-0, Pirates

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dsmith421
08-04-2010, 01:52 PM
Gomes can't hit the inside half of the plate, Bruce can't hit anything away...what if we FUSED THEM INTO ONE SUPER-OUTFIELDER that could cover the entire strike zone. (The spare parts would actually be Willy Taveras.)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:53 PM
Salt has good action, but it's plot has more holes in it than Jay Bruce's swing. And you're not missing much with Inception. An overrated Matrix rip off.

Sounds like we're going to see Salt (just got off the phone with the missus)

And with that...1-0 Pirates. McCutchen dinger.

Hoosier Red
08-04-2010, 01:53 PM
Terrible inning, but the good news is that Votto looks ok.

But Phillips has to get a better jump, Gomes has to hit with RISP again.

Hope Cueto is on today.

Cueto doesn't look good early. Hope the Reds offense can score some runs or it's going to be a loooooong afternoon.

Actually I'm not watching the game but it seems to be good luck to mention that the pitcher looks weak early. It always works for Arroyo anyway.

membengal
08-04-2010, 01:54 PM
Could not disagree more on Inception. I don't see ANY parallels to the Matrix. And it was outstanding.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:54 PM
K (called)
1 out
Young up

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Reds Freak
08-04-2010, 01:54 PM
Cueto doesn't look good early. Hope the Reds offense can score some runs or it's going to be a loooooong afternoon.

Actually I'm not watching the game but it seems to be good luck to mention that the pitcher looks weak early. It always works for Arroyo anyway.

Doesn't look good early? He's pitched 6 pitches. Did they shorten the game today to 2 innings?

Always Red
08-04-2010, 01:54 PM
Guess McCutcheon's neck is ok, eh?

Cedric
08-04-2010, 01:55 PM
Doesn't look good early? He's pitched 6 pitches. Did they shorten the game today to 2 innings?

Take the time to read further. He was joking.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 01:55 PM
Curious that Bruce was in the lineup last night against the lefty Maholm and not in the lineup today against the righty Karstens. But I understand Dusty wanting to give the young man a rest. His brain needs it.

I don't think Dusty will say it, but I think Stubbs has lost his job.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:56 PM
3
2 out
Jones up

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Reds Freak
08-04-2010, 01:56 PM
Take the time to read further. He was joking.

Ha, oops! :)

Kc61
08-04-2010, 01:56 PM
Curious that Bruce was in the lineup last night against the lefty Maholm and not in the lineup today against the righty Karstens. But I understand Dusty wanting to give the young man a rest. His brain needs it.

I don't think Dusty will say it, but I think Stubbs has lost his job.

Issue for Stubbs is not his starting job. Issue for Stubbs is whether Dickerson will soon replace him on the roster.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:58 PM
Question of the day:

Will the Astros sweep? Carpenter vs Happ

I say they DO sweep.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 01:58 PM
KK

1-0 pirates after 1

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 01:59 PM
K (swinging)
3 out
Bottom of 1st over
Francisco up

1-0, Pirates.

I'm out. I'll be back for the 3rd. Later,

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Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Issue for Stubbs is not his starting job. Issue for Stubbs is whether Dickerson will soon replace him on the roster.

Yep, I can see that happening. With Dickerson lighting up AAA, its just a matter of time and Dickerson's health.

OesterPoster
08-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Question of the day:

Will the Astros sweep? Carpenter vs Happ

I say they DO sweep.

A-hem. That's Harp, according to Marty. :)

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Anyone know if Bonds can still play some LF?

:)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:00 PM
IMO the biggest factor with Stubbs & others is the 40 man roster situation. We've got to figure out who's getting kicked off and who's not. There are LOTS of moves to be made in the next week or so.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:01 PM
That a boy Juan!

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:01 PM
HEY! Leadoff double down the line for Juan!

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:01 PM
A bunt? Already?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:02 PM
Nix with a bunt?!? It worked.

Kc61
08-04-2010, 02:02 PM
HEY! Leadoff double down the line for Juan!


A young Reds hitter not named Votto going opposite field? No way.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:03 PM
Horrible.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:03 PM
Razor pops out to Jones in foul ground. 2 down. *sigh*

It's all up to Paulie!

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:04 PM
What in the hell is Dusty doing. I'm just amazed. LH's KILL karstens.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:04 PM
Welsh put the curse on Hernandez last night for preaching how good he is with RISP.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:05 PM
Holy crap the Pirates ball girls.

:eek:

Kc61
08-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Janish.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Holy crap the Pirates ball girls.

:eek:

Now I'm wishing I had video today.

HEY! Janish steps up! 1-1 ballgame

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Janish keeps hitting.

1-1

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Now I'm wishing I had video today.

HEY! Janish steps up! 1-1 ballgame
They are softball players from local colleges.

Goodness.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Holy crap the Pirates ball girls.

:eek:

You know, this statement can be taken more than one way. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:07 PM
They are softball players from local colleges.

Goodness.

No fair. Don't make it worse by moderately describing them. Just let it lie. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:08 PM
You know, this statement can be taken more than one way. ;)

Oh, mercy. Too true.

WOW. Great catch by Jones to rob Cueto of a hit.

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:08 PM
Bunting against pure junk like Karstens just drives me insane. Absolutely gave up that out.

TheNext44
08-04-2010, 02:09 PM
People don't like Janish hitting second. I agree. He should bat third or fourth. ;)

flyer85
08-04-2010, 02:09 PM
nice to see Heisey play 2 days in a row and good to see Francisco (he raked in July) in there.

TheNext44
08-04-2010, 02:09 PM
Nm

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Lefties are hitting around .350 against Karstens.

Why isn't Bruce in RF and Nix in LF?

Kc61
08-04-2010, 02:10 PM
I think it was more to help Bruce get on track than anything else.

It was Nix.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:10 PM
I think it was more to help Bruce get on track than anything else.
Nix was the one who bunted...

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Mercy they're showing all the ball girls and giving backround info on them..

TheNext44
08-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Nix was the one who bunted...

Yeah, caught that as I pressed send.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:11 PM
Mercy they're showing all the ball girls and giving backround info on them..

Unless you've got pics to post...zip it young man! :O)

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:11 PM
Sometimes I just wonder how bad these managers want to get involved. Last night KC had 3rd and 1st nobody out last night and they safety squeeze out of the inning.

Why can't they all be Earl Weaver.

oneupper
08-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Why can't they all be Earl Weaver.

If you can't copy him, don't imitate him?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:12 PM
How in the world are those 2 pitches BALLS!?!

VR
08-04-2010, 02:12 PM
gameday showing balls 2 and 3 right down the heart of the plate?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:12 PM
Error on Votto. Oh, wait. They're calling it a hit.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:13 PM
lol is it impossible to get an error in Pittsburgh?

RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Our IFs know that it's easier to field if you move your feet, right?

Hoosier Red
08-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Error on Votto. Oh, wait. They're calling it a hit.

Cairo would've had it? :)

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:13 PM
gameday showing balls 2 and 3 right down the heart of the plate?

Not quite the heart of the plate but pretty darned good. Inside the black at least...not ON the black.

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Who is the Umpire today?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:14 PM
K#3

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Who is the Umpire today?

Ray Charles.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Sometimes I look at CB Bucknor and wonder if he has any friends. He just doesn't seem like a likeable guy.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:15 PM
Angel Campos seriously.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:16 PM
HP - Angel Campos
1B - CB Bucknor
2b - Doug Eddings
3b - Dana Demuth

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:16 PM
Linedrive that Heisey tracks down. 2 down.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:18 PM
Fly out to Nix to end the inning. After that leadoff dinger, Cueto's settled down nicely. 1-1 after 2.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Thanks for holding down the PBP for me, SC. I can take it back now.

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Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Time to make some serious noise against Karstens.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:21 PM
Wow. You've gotta be kidding me.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Phillips HBP but they say he held his arm out to get hit on purpose. Called a ball.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:22 PM
That was crappy.

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oneupper
08-04-2010, 02:22 PM
scrappy is what is was.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:23 PM
Phillips ends up striking out. Rather pissed too.

The Operator
08-04-2010, 02:23 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:23 PM
K (swinging)
1 out
Heisey up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:24 PM
Thanks for holding down the PBP for me, SC. I can take it back now.

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NP. Have at it bud.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:25 PM
Well, that stunk. 1-2-3 from Karstens. 1 pitch out for Votto.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:25 PM
K (swinging)
2 out
Votto up

6-3
3 out
Top of 3rd over

1-1, tie

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Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:25 PM
Arod just went #600.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Time to make some serious noise against Karstens.

Next time someone tell me to shut up.

Strikes Out Looking
08-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Arod just went #600.

CC's of HGH?

traderumor
08-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Is there any game more nerve wracking than a rubber game in a three game series?

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:26 PM
Arod just went #600.

That's right up there with Brett Favre retiring for things I care about.

Strikes Out Looking
08-04-2010, 02:27 PM
Is there any game more nerve wracking than a rubber game in a three game series?

Game 7 of the World Series. Remind me to tell you that in October when the Reds are playing the Rays.

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:27 PM
I couldn't care any less also. Just pointing out the #600.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:28 PM
3U
1 out
Young up

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Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:28 PM
I couldn't care any less also. Just pointing out the #600.

No problem, glad to hear of another ARod anti-fan. :beerme:

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:29 PM
ARod anti-fan.

Count me in as one!

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reds44
08-04-2010, 02:29 PM
I got tired of hearing about it. Glad he finally did it.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:29 PM
Arod just went #600.

Thank GOD! I was Sooooooo sick of hearing about it. And having to watch even MORE Yankee baseball. Ugh!

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:29 PM
Another terrible umpire. How many good one's are left?

Roy Tucker
08-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Whoops, meeting time.

Root the boys on for me.

RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Maybe it's something with the dirt?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Easily could've been another error there...but of course, it's a hit.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Karstens grounded out, then the McCutchen flyout.

Now:

1B
Runner on 1st
2 out
Walker up

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:32 PM
9
3 out
Bottom of 3rd over
Gomes up

1-1, tie

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reds44
08-04-2010, 02:35 PM
lol Gomes had a great reaction to that hit.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:35 PM
Say what you will about Gomes, but he never fails to hustle. Another IF single.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:36 PM
Juan is halfway to the cycle.

RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:36 PM
Fransisco looks like a thicker, LH versino of Vlad. Just wants to punish every pitch he sees.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:37 PM
I like Francisco, kid is going to be a player.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:37 PM
2 1Bs for Gomes and Cisco
0 out
Runners on 1st and 2nd
Nix up

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RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Say what you will about Gomes, but he never fails to hustle. Another IF single.

Except last night when he jogged to 1st thinking he hit a HR when it was really a double off the wall... But yeah, he hustles more than most.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Bases loaded nobody out.

Kc61
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Cisco will prove them all wrong.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Except last night when he jogged to 1st thinking he hit a HR when it was really a double off the wall... But yeah, he hustles more than most.
And then jogged going to third which caused him not to score...

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
1B
2B->3B/ Gomes
1B->2B/ Francisco
Bases loaded
0 out
Hernandez up

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RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Cisco will prove them all wrong.

I would love to eat some Fransisco flavored crow.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:39 PM
And then jogged going to third which caused him not to score...


Hey, don't try to muddle my point by tossing facts out there. Sheesh. Some people! :cool:

Reds Freak
08-04-2010, 02:39 PM
Bases loaded nobody out.

This situation always makes me nervous with the Reds...

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Razor with a deep drive to center, everyone tags, Nix nailed at 2nd for a double play. 2-1 Reds.

RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Way to go guys. Outs > 1 base.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
Dumb.

hebroncougar
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
This situation always makes me nervous with the Reds...

Well, they didn't disappoint you. Boneheaded mistake.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
FEAR THE JANISH! Ibb

RedsManRick
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
The advantage of playing the Pirates -- you can play like crap and still win.

oneupper
08-04-2010, 02:40 PM
There's aggressive and there's foolhardy.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:41 PM
That was such an unbelievably stupid play by Nix.

Even if he makes it to second, they walk Janish to get to Cueto.

Stay at first and they pitch to Janish.

oneupper
08-04-2010, 02:41 PM
Cueto will make them pay.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:41 PM
SF8-4, RBI
3B->H, R/ Gomes
2B->3B/ Francisco
SF2 8-4 (2)/ Nix
Janish up

SCORE CHANGE: 2-1, Reds

IBB
Runners on 1st and 3rd
2 out
Cueto up

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kaldaniels
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
I got nauseous when the Bucs announcer said "everyone's tagging" while that ball was in the air.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
Cueto grounds out to end the inning. But hey, we did plate one. 2-1 Redlegs.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
3U
3 out
Top of 4th over
Jones up

2-1, Reds

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oneupper
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
That was such an unbelievably stupid play by Nix.

Even if he makes it to second, they walk Janish to get to Cueto.

Stay at first and they pitch to Janish.

More importantly, ONE out, Man on third.

Kc61
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
That was such an unbelievably stupid play by Nix.

Even if he makes it to second, they walk Janish to get to Cueto.

Stay at first and they pitch to Janish.


Agree.

No guarantee they would have scored again, but that was a completely unnecessary out at second by Nix. Too aggressive.

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 02:42 PM
Jeff Karstens can not get people out.

Please don't get yourself out on the bases.

puca
08-04-2010, 02:44 PM
That was such an unbelievably stupid play by Nix.

Even if he makes it to second, they walk Janish to get to Cueto.

Stay at first and they pitch to Janish.

yes it was.

of course the whole intentional walk concept seems to mystify this team right now.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:45 PM
Grounder to Janish. 1 down. Makes it look easy.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:45 PM
6-3
1 out
Alvarez up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:46 PM
5 pitch walk to Alvarez.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:47 PM
BB
Runner on 1st
1 out
Milledge up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:47 PM
Razor needs to head out to the mound here. Cueto's lost the zone.

~edit~ And as I type that, he settles back in and refocuses. Found it again.

dsmith421
08-04-2010, 02:49 PM
Did the base coach actually send Nix or did he run on his own?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Flyout to Heisey. 2 down.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:50 PM
8
2 out
Runner on 1st
Snyder up

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PuffyPig
08-04-2010, 02:50 PM
Serious question:

If the Reds would prefer that we have runners on first and third with one out (so they would pitch to Janich with Cueto on deck), instead of the bases laoded with Cueto at bat, why wouldn't the Pirates (or any other team for that matter is a similiar situation) simply walk Janish anyway if he was on first to get to the pitcher?

I assume that, in fact, the batting team would prefer the bases loaded situation, as the defense never creates it.

OesterPoster
08-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Didn't Nix have a baserunning gaffe last Monday night? Tried to advance to third on a grounder to short, or something like that?

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Serious question:

If the Reds would prefer that we have runners on first and third with one out (so they would pitch to Janich with Cueto on deck), instead of the bases laoded with Cueto at bat, why wouldn't the Pirates (or any other team for that matter is a similiar situation) simply walk Janish anyway if he was on first to get to the pitcher?

I assume that, in fact, the batting team would prefer the bases loaded situation, as the defense never creates it.
Then you have Phillips up with the bases loaded and 2 outs instead of Cueto up with 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

Which would you preger?

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:52 PM
Didn't Nix have a baserunning gaffe last Monday night? Tried to advance to third on a grounder to short, or something like that?

Yes. Exactly that. He was the tying run too, I think.

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:52 PM
KKKK

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 02:52 PM
Reds have 7 hits, and only 2 runs. Time to even that number out a bit.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:52 PM
Cueto is getting a ton of swings and misses today.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:52 PM
K (swinging)
3 out
Bottom of 4th over
Phillips up

2-1, Reds

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bucksfan2
08-04-2010, 02:53 PM
The Reds need to get some runs on the board. This type of Johnny scares me one bad inning and the Reds are behind the 8 ball again.

dsmith421
08-04-2010, 02:53 PM
If the Reds would prefer that we have runners on first and third with one out (so they would pitch to Janich with Cueto on deck), instead of the bases laoded with Cueto at bat, why wouldn't the Pirates (or any other team for that matter is a similiar situation) simply walk Janish anyway if he was on first to get to the pitcher?

I think that's right, but I don't think it makes what Nix did any less dumb.

Chip R
08-04-2010, 02:53 PM
Serious question:

If the Reds would prefer that we have runners on first and third with one out (so they would pitch to Janich with Cueto on deck), instead of the bases laoded with Cueto at bat, why wouldn't the Pirates (or any other team for that matter is a similiar situation) simply walk Janish anyway if he was on first to get to the pitcher?

I assume that, in fact, the batting team would prefer the bases loaded situation, as the defense never creates it.

Probably because with Nix at 1st, the force at 2nd is still on and a ground ball can get you out of the inning. Then you lead off the next inning with the pitcher.

PuffyPig
08-04-2010, 02:56 PM
Then you have Phillips up with the bases loaded and 2 outs instead of Cueto up with 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

Which would you preger?

My point is, when people say that Nix shouldn't have taken the extra base anyway (even if it was a 100% chance), as the first and third, one out Janish situation is preferable to the bases loaded, one out Cueto situation, they are not correct.

Cedric
08-04-2010, 02:56 PM
My point is, when people say that Nix shouldn't have taken the extra base anyway (even if it was a 100% chance), as the first and third, one out Janish situation is preferable to the bases loaded, one out Cueto situation, they are not correct.

Of course you take the bag if it's a sure thing. The point is the risk wasn't near the reward there.

reds44
08-04-2010, 02:57 PM
Heisey is good.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:57 PM
Phillips grounded out to second. Heisey follows him with a single up the middle.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 02:59 PM
Time to inch closer to Howard in the RBI race. *hint, hint*

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:59 PM
I'm back again.

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 02:59 PM
Come on, Votto!

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:00 PM
2-2 count on JV

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:00 PM
Full count

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:00 PM
BB to Votto. 1st & 2nd for Gomes

reds44
08-04-2010, 03:00 PM
Votto's okay too.

We need a big hit.

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
I hate having Gomes follow Votto instead of Rolen.

OesterPoster
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Odds that Gomes swings at the first pitch?

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
BB/ With the runner going
1B->2B/ Heisey
Runners on 1st and 2nd
Gomes up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Brantley makes a good point. Votto has really been crowding the plate lately.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Odds that Gomes swings at the first pitch?

0% :D

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Cedric
08-04-2010, 03:02 PM
Please don't get yourself out Gomes. Make him make a good pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:02 PM
Pirates pen is active. Karstens over 80 pitches already.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:03 PM
3-1 count

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reds44
08-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Don't be afraid to walk.

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Attaboy Gomes! Crow for me...

reds44
08-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Come on Juan.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:04 PM
Well, ARod got #600 today...good day for #100 for Gomes?

Single for Gomes....called a trap.

OesterPoster
08-04-2010, 03:04 PM
Juan more hit please.

reds44
08-04-2010, 03:04 PM
Time for Juan to unload on one.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:04 PM
1B/ Milledge trapped it in left
2B->3B/ Heisey
1B->2B/ Votto
Bases loaded
1 out
Francisco up

Good time to keep workin' on that bid for the cycle...

Pitching coach is out there for the Pirates.

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:04 PM
Juan more hit please.

BOOOOOO! Where's the bad pun police when you need them? :D

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Bad, but an RBI.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Grounder to 1st. But still plates one. 3-1 Reds. Too slow to turn a DP. 2nd & 3rd now for Nix.

reds44
08-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Productive out at least.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:06 PM
SH 3U, RBI
3B->H, R/ Heisey
2B->3B/ Votto
1B->2B/ Gomes
2 out
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
Nix up

SCORE CHANGE: 3-1, Reds

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reds44
08-04-2010, 03:06 PM
Bases loaded 1 out and 2 first pitch outs.

I mean Jesus.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:06 PM
Crud. Solidly hit line drive...but hangs up for McCutchen. 3-1 Reds after 4 1/2.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:06 PM
9
3 out
Top of 5th over
Cedeno up

3-1, Reds

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PuffyPig
08-04-2010, 03:10 PM
Bases loaded 1 out and 2 first pitch outs.

I mean Jesus.

One of those drove in a run, and the other was a line drive.

Nothing wrong with that.

Karstens generally throws strikes.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:11 PM
K (swinging)
1 out
LaRoche up, PHing for P Karstens

7
2 out
McCutchen up

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reds44
08-04-2010, 03:11 PM
Anybody got a pitch count on Cueto?

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:12 PM
9
3 out
Bottom of 5th over
Hernandez up

3-1, Reds

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VR
08-04-2010, 03:12 PM
81.....thanks to an economical 10 pitch inning

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:12 PM
81 pitches, 48 strikes for Cueto

87 pitches, 51 strikes for Karstens

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reds44
08-04-2010, 03:13 PM
I'll take 2 more 10 pitch innings to get him thru 7.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Sean Gallahger in to pitch, batting 9th, for PH Andy LaRoche

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:14 PM
Karsten's final line:

5 IP
9 H
3 R
3 ER
2 BB
2 K
0 HR

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Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Cueto so far:

5 IP
3 H
1 R
1 ER
1 BB
5 K
0 HR

320

OesterPoster
08-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Karsten's final line:

5 IP
9 H
3 R
3 ER
2 BB
2 K
0 HR

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Crazy. So basically 2 baserunners per inning, yet only 3 scored.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:16 PM
K (swinging)
1 out
Janish up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Razor the only starter without a hit strikesout. (he DOES have a ribbie though) 1 down.

VR
08-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Crazy. So basically 2 baserunners per inning, yet only 3 scored.

A typical Jaime Garcia type outing.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Janish 2 for 2 now. Single to right.

HeatherC1212
08-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Cueto so far:

5 IP
3 H
1 R
1 ER
1 BB
5 K
0 HR

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Didn't Cueto give up a HR to McCutchen in the first inning? :confused:

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Solid sac bunt from Cueto. 2 down, man on 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Didn't Cueto give up a HR to McCutchen in the first inning? :confused:

We used the mulligan in the first. That inning didn't count. :cool:

VR
08-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Anyone coming around yet on Janish?

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:18 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
1 out
Cueto up

SB 1-3
1B->2B/ Janish
Runner on 2nd
2 out
Phillips up

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_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Anyone coming around yet on Janish?

Crickets.






I came around a LONG time ago though.

bucksfan2
08-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Crickets.






I came around a LONG time ago though.

Want a cookie?

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Phillips lines out to right.

Homer Bailey
08-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Another rocket, right at the RF. Can't buy a RBI hit today.

_Sir_Charles_
08-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Want a cookie?

Not sure. What kind of cookie is it? *grin*

TRF
08-04-2010, 03:20 PM
Crickets.






I came around a LONG time ago though.

Same here. I think his ceiling might be .730 OPS. I'll take it from him with his D. As long as the CF isn't below .700.

Redsfan320
08-04-2010, 03:20 PM
9
3 out
Top of 6th over
Young up

3-1, Reds

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