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Vottomatic
08-07-2010, 05:53 PM
Player--------Team---SV---BS---IP---Hits---K---BB---ERA---WHIP---BAA
Brian Wilson-----SF-----32----3---48----44----67--18----2.23----1.28---.235
R. Soriano-------TB-----31----2---44----29----36--10----1.85----0.89---.184
Heath Bell-------SD-----31----3---47----41----60--19----1.93----1.29---.234
F. Cordero------Cin-----30----6---50----46----45--32-----4.11----1.55--.243
Neftali Feliz-----Tex----29----2---46----32----50--13-----3.50----0.97--.190
B. Wagner------Atl-----26-----6---48----28----67--15-----1.70----0.90--.167
M. Capps-------Min-----26----4----46---51----38---9-----2.74----1.30---.274
M. Rivera-------NYY----22----2----40---19----36---6-----0.91----0.63---.191


This will probably be our downfall if we make the postseason. Cordero's numbers don't even compare to the closers of other contending teams.

thorn
08-07-2010, 06:22 PM
What are the #'s for the Phillies and the Cards? Don't care about the AL.

Krawhitham
08-07-2010, 06:28 PM
In his last 15 outings he has just TWO 1-2-3 innings, you can only be lucky for so long before you become the next Danny Graves

davereds24
08-07-2010, 06:34 PM
I actually thought the numbers would be worse than that. Get the walks down and he's right there. Hopefully Price or someone else they bring in can figure out what the problem is.

Put Lidge and Franklin on there.

GIDP
08-07-2010, 06:48 PM
I dont think a closer is a big deal over the course of a season but if the Reds do depend on Cordero for post season games its going to be a major issue.

Actually during the season it might be 2 or 3 losses. Which can be big but not all of those losses would really just be on the closer. Post season games are 5 game and 7 game seasons. 1 blown game can really really ruin it.

Vottomatic
08-07-2010, 06:53 PM
What are the #'s for the Phillies and the Cards? Don't care about the AL.

Lidge missed pretty much all of April. Was brought along slowly in May. His stats are:

13 saves, 4 blown saves, 24 IP, 22 hits, 31 K's, 14 BB's, 4.81 ERA, 1.48 WHIP, .239 BAA.

Franklin stats:
19 saves, 1 blown save, 44 IP, 42 hits, 26 K's, 6 BB's, 3.30 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, .247 BAA. Typical Dave Duncan pitcher. Keep BB's down.

Vottomatic
08-07-2010, 07:06 PM
In his last 15 outings he has just TWO 1-2-3 innings, you can only be lucky for so long before you become the next Danny Graves

In 51 appearances, Cordero has thirteen 1-2-3 innings pitched.

In 45 appearances, Brian Wilson has eighteen 1-2-3 innings pitched.

In 46 appearances, Heath Bell has twelve 1-2-3 innings pitched.

In 49 appearances, Billy Wagner has twenty 1-2-3 innings pitched.

In 39 appearances, Ryan Franklin has fourteen 1-2-3 innings pitched.

GIDP
08-07-2010, 07:09 PM
Corderos issue is that his strike out rates have went into the crapper.

redsfan_12
08-07-2010, 08:24 PM
He only throws one pitch. Its fairly easy to time his fastball after a couple pitches. If he has another pitch, he sure should use it a little more.

DocRed
08-07-2010, 08:34 PM
You forgot the most important stat for a closer.....save %.

DocRed
08-07-2010, 08:35 PM
nm

RedsFanInBama
08-08-2010, 02:06 AM
He only throws one pitch.

He really doesn't though.

aubashbrother
08-08-2010, 02:17 AM
He only throws one pitch. Its fairly easy to time his fastball after a couple pitches. If he has another pitch, he sure should use it a little more.


a ball ?

davereds24
08-08-2010, 02:53 AM
a ball ?

:eek: lol

Old NDN
08-08-2010, 10:59 AM
a ball ?

....and he's darned good at it. Heck, he may lead MLB in that stat.