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Magdal
08-08-2010, 12:29 AM
By that I mean only the Reds can can stop the Reds. The combination of the Cards losing their best lights out reliever, Mott, their solid hitting 3rd baseman Freese and their best RISP man Ludwick, and the continued over managing by La Russa pretty much insures that they will continue to be just a slightly better than .500 team.

Maker_84
08-08-2010, 12:30 AM
let's hope

rolenmvp
08-08-2010, 12:42 AM
By that I mean only the Reds can can stop the Reds. The combination of the Cards losing their best lights out reliever, Mott, their solid hitting 3rd baseman Freese and their best RISP man Ludwick, and the continued over managing by La Russa pretty much insures that they will continue to be just a slightly better than .500 team.

I agree with you. the only person that will beat the reds are the reds. our bullpen is shaky with cordero in there but, with the rest of the bullpen we should be fine with Ondru, masset and the rest of the crew, the real challenge will be our 6 through 8 hitters, GOMES, bruce and stubbs and heisey and what to do with them.

like you said though, cardinals are overmanaging and sometimes we do too, but honestly? they haven't been in this situation in a while, they are used to being up 4 or 5 games but they realize they are in a fight for their lives and the only hope for us is just to keep winning series and keep doing what we do best and that's going out there and letting our starting pitching give us good quality starts and our offense do just enough to win games and we will be throwing champagne around late september.

Magdal
08-08-2010, 01:02 AM
LaRussa has arranged it so that his best 3 starters go in the series next week. I give him credit for that. With Votto cooling off the Reds MUST get the starters out by the 7th. It's after the 7th where LaLoser starts screwing his team up with bad pitcher changes and dbl switches.

Stay close in the games and the advantage swings to the Reds after the 7th. I think it is not unreasonable that the Reds win 2 of 3.

Knightro28
08-08-2010, 01:29 AM
LaRussa has arranged it so that his best 3 starters go in the series next week. I give him credit for that. With Votto cooling off the Reds MUST get the starters out by the 7th. It's after the 7th where LaLoser starts screwing his team up with bad pitcher changes and dbl switches.

Stay close in the games and the advantage swings to the Reds after the 7th. I think it is not unreasonable that the Reds win 2 of 3.

I'd be cool with the Reds winning all 3.

Redlegs_87
08-08-2010, 01:44 AM
Garcia got roughed up last time out. Reds have seen him before sure they will make the adjustments needed to wallop him.

10xWSChamps
08-08-2010, 02:19 AM
By that I mean only the Reds can can stop the Reds. The combination of the Cards losing their best lights out reliever, Mott, their solid hitting 3rd baseman Freese and their best RISP man Ludwick, and the continued over managing by La Russa pretty much insures that they will continue to be just a slightly better than .500 team.

magdal, do you post at the Cubs' NSBB forum?

I do disagree with some of your sentiments, but in a way the Reds do control their destiny since they have the division lead right now.

But with six (i think?) games left between the two teams, the Cardinals certainly have the chance to take control of their own destiny as well. The season is far from over and a 1.5 game lead certainly doesn't set anything into stone

scott91575
08-08-2010, 03:12 AM
The season is far from over and a 1.5 game lead certainly doesn't set anything into stone

The big plus is the Reds are in first by 1 1/2 games, tied for the Wild Card with the Giants, 1 game back of the Padres, and 1/2 game back of the Braves. If the Reds can play only a few games above .500 until the end of the season it would take 4 teams playing above that level for the Reds to not make the playoffs.

Of course as we all know the West coast road trip will be the real decider in all of this. After that road trip the Reds have more home games than road games with plenty of losing teams on the schedule. If the Reds are in a similar position at that point I will start feeling pretty good about things.

Reds
08-08-2010, 03:19 AM
We're 10 above .500 at home, 5 above .500 on the road, and our magic number is 51. (tied with chisox and atl for 2nd overall in that category)

scott91575
08-08-2010, 03:24 AM
We're 10 above .500 at home, 5 above .500 on the road, and our magic number is 51. (tied with chisox and atl for 2nd overall in that category)

I assume that is for the division. For just the playoffs the Rangers, Yankees, and Devil Rays have to be far ahead of everyone.

GIDP
08-08-2010, 10:05 AM
I assume that is for the division. For just the playoffs the Rangers, Yankees, and Devil Rays have to be far ahead of everyone.

Texas has the lowest Magic Number for the division
Then its who ever wins the east, they also have the lowest for the wild card
then its the Reds and Whitesox

Griffey012
08-08-2010, 10:28 AM
LaRussa has arranged it so that his best 3 starters go in the series next week. I give him credit for that. With Votto cooling off the Reds MUST get the starters out by the 7th. It's after the 7th where LaLoser starts screwing his team up with bad pitcher changes and dbl switches.

Stay close in the games and the advantage swings to the Reds after the 7th. I think it is not unreasonable that the Reds win 2 of 3.

I am glad Dusty didn't try and tinker our rotation at all. The Cardinals games are just a little more important than any other series but not by a lot. Getting swept or dropping 2 of 3 to a team like the Cubs, Pirates, etc. is likely to be just as damaging as losing 2 of 3 to the Cards. LaRussa can't focus all he wants on the 6 games against us left. We will focus on the other remaining 45 just as much as those 6.

Magdal
08-08-2010, 12:02 PM
magdal, do you post at the Cubs' NSBB forum?

I do disagree with some of your sentiments, but in a way the Reds do control their destiny since they have the division lead right now.

But with six (i think?) games left between the two teams, the Cardinals certainly have the chance to take control of their own destiny as well. The season is far from over and a 1.5 game lead certainly doesn't set anything into stoneI posted there last year, yes.

Fullboat
08-08-2010, 01:28 PM
When I hear the Reds are 51 game away of continuing on instead of being
eliminated I get as giddy as a schoolgirl.:D

Krawhitham
08-08-2010, 01:33 PM
If Prince Albert gets hot enough he can carry that team for 2 months

defender
08-08-2010, 08:37 PM
The Reds are a young team, and they have gotten better over the course of the season. They have an easier schedule than the Cards. I think the Reds win the division by at least 4 games. The Reds have shown the ability to beat bad teams at home and on the road. They play a lot of bad teams the rest of the way.