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AintlifeGrande
08-11-2010, 06:26 PM
Call up Chapman and put him in the pen,and groom him for the starting rotation in a few weeks.Cause if they wait for Sept.roster expansion the Reds may be done.

Discuss..

schmidty622
08-11-2010, 06:28 PM
I agree. I would do it right now. It would help to change the energy of the club house and give the writers something else to focus on.

10xWSChamps
08-11-2010, 06:30 PM
Can anyone show me a site that contains Chapman's stats from this year? Tried to look them up last night and can't find them anywhere

AintlifeGrande
08-11-2010, 06:31 PM
Be nice to bring some heat when we head to St.Louis.Of course we have to survive the west coast trip.And Aroldis cant hit and score runs though.

Hondo
08-11-2010, 06:32 PM
Call up Chapman and put him in the pen,and groom him for the starting rotation in a few weeks.Cause if they wait for Sept.roster expansion the Reds may be done.

Discuss..

Are you nuts?

Boss Hogg, help me get put of here!

schmidty622
08-11-2010, 06:35 PM
Are you nuts?

Boss Hogg, help me get put of here!

Is it that you disagree with bringing him up or just the idea that they would move him back to the rotation?

Clearly his role this year is out of the pen. They won't move him back. I just think bringing him up after this particularly difficult series would do wonders to change the mood of the club house and shift the focus off the beating they just got.

AintlifeGrande
08-11-2010, 06:38 PM
Why am I nuts?If you don't like the move then say why not.Walt said he was just about ready.Might give this team a kick in the butt knowing we got a fireballer who can mow em down.I just think its time to shake this rotation up a bit.Homer,Chapman,its a start.

Hondo
08-11-2010, 06:40 PM
Is it that you disagree with bringing him up or just the idea that they would move him back to the rotation?

Clearly his role this year is out of the pen. They won't move him back. I just think bringing him up after this particularly difficult series would do wonders to change the mood of the club house and shift the focus off the beating they just got.

The Reds may be done line...


Some of thses guys are killing me... The series wasnt a just crushing defeat. The Cards didnt keep the Reds scorless in the first 2 games... A couple errors dont occur and Rolen makes that play in game 1 and the Reds could have took 2/3.

I think Chapman should be called up now to be a set up guy for the 8th Inning.

brm7675
08-11-2010, 06:40 PM
NO, let me say it again...nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo oo

It is NOT time to put a 20 something unknown factor into this bullpen. If they call him up now it would be the dumbest thing Walt could do.

Hondo
08-11-2010, 06:42 PM
NO, let me say it again...nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo oo

It is NOT time to put a 20 something unknown factor into this bullpen. If they call him up now it would be the dumbest thing Walt could do.

Are you paying attention to Chapman at all..

He is averaging like 11.4 K's per 9 Inn, albeit he is averaging 5 BB/9IP also, but he would dominate this late in the season, other guys having never seen him...

I think he would be great in the 8th Inning...

brm7675
08-11-2010, 06:44 PM
Are you paying attention to Chapman at all..

He is averaging like 11.4 K's per 9 Inn, albeit he is averaging 5 BB/9IP also, but he would dominate this late in the season, other guys having never seen him...

I think he would be great in the 8th Inning...

Sorry but he has done this for how long against whom? Also what is wrong with the bullpen right now?

cincysportsfan
08-11-2010, 06:47 PM
I'd probably give Chapman a couple more bullpen appearances in Louisville, then see if he performs just like he's been doing lately, check mechanics, and if all appears well, call him up to the Bigs.

schmidty622
08-11-2010, 06:50 PM
Sorry but he has done this for how long against whom? Also what is wrong with the bullpen right now?

I think they could replace Bray with Chapman and at worst see a lateral move. At best they could see a quality back of the pen arm take his spot.

More importantly though I believe it would change the focus of the media and force it away from the Cardinals debacle.

Hondo
08-11-2010, 06:50 PM
I'd probably give Chapman a couple more bullpen appearances in Louisville, then see if he performs just like he's been doing lately, check mechanics, and if all appears well, call him up to the Bigs.

Yeah I agree with you... Let the Reds get back to winning and let the drama escape the club house, then call him up...

BurgervilleBuck
08-11-2010, 06:54 PM
I'm fine if Chapman comes up when the roster expands but not before. But what I'd really like to see is the Reds moving Leake to the bullpen as a possible long reliever.

I know we're all frustrated by the Cards' sweep but the important thing is for the Reds to lick their wounds and go back to winning games. Flashy moves are not the answer.

10xWSChamps
08-11-2010, 07:00 PM
Are you paying attention to Chapman at all..

He is averaging like 11.4 K's per 9 Inn, albeit he is averaging 5 BB/9IP also, but he would dominate this late in the season, other guys having never seen him...

I think he would be great in the 8th Inning...

COuld you show me where you got his stats at? I've been looking for them and can't find em at any of the usual sources

berryluther
08-11-2010, 07:03 PM
Chapman isnt going to fill the need of a hitter. Rolen has cooled off and another good hitter behin2 Votto is where this team is lacking.

knoonan991
08-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Chapman isnt going to fill the need of a hitter. Rolen has cooled off and another good hitter behin2 Votto is where this team is lacking.

We faced Cy Young caliber pitchers, I think that alone would cool a lot of bats.

Our offense is fine, Rolen will bounce back.


As to the original question, I think it's time for Chapman. I've thought so actually for the last week, not out of panic but out of a feeling that he's ready to take the jump. He's been very successful as of late and I think he could help out a ton during the stretch run.

Trace's Daddy
08-11-2010, 07:18 PM
I'd love to see Chapman vs. Carpenter the next time. if he gets out of line, hit him with a 102mph fb in the spike wounds on his back ;)

brm7675
08-11-2010, 07:22 PM
I think they could replace Bray with Chapman and at worst see a lateral move. At best they could see a quality back of the pen arm take his spot.

More importantly though I believe it would change the focus of the media and force it away from the Cardinals debacle.

So we are going to promote a player not ready, remove a quality lefty for a PR move? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sivman17
08-11-2010, 07:23 PM
Can anyone show me a site that contains Chapman's stats from this year? Tried to look them up last night and can't find them anywhere

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=416&stn=true&sid=t416

Texas Pete
08-11-2010, 07:44 PM
I'd bring him up and put him in the pen.

I'm not saying bringing up Chapman is a MUST DO IT NOW!!!.....I'm just saying I think Chapman could help the team now.

bshall2105
08-11-2010, 07:49 PM
Say you have a bases loaded jam with nobody out. We need a guy that can come in and get a strikeout. Chapman could fill that role very well.

bagz
08-11-2010, 07:58 PM
I'm all for bringing him up and putting him in the pen.:thumbup:
I'd bring Alonso up too when the rosters expand. The Cuban Connection.

texasdave
08-11-2010, 08:03 PM
COuld you show me where you got his stats at? I've been looking for them and can't find em at any of the usual sources

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=547973

Rijo's Ghost
08-11-2010, 08:40 PM
IP FIP BF H 2B HR W IW K GDP AVG BABIP WHIP W/9 K/9 HR/9 GB% LD% FB% IF/F HR/F
Overall 91.3 3.54 384 75 15 7 49 0 110 5 0.227 0.319 1.36 4.83 10.84 0.69 41.4% 14.2% 36.0% 17.5% 8.1%


IP FIP BF H 2B HR W IW K GDP AVG BABIP WHIP W/9 K/9 HR/9 GB% LD% FB% IF/F HR/F
as Starter 68.3 4.01 287 60 12 6 40 0 76 3 0.244 0.329 1.46 5.27 10.01 0.79 39.4% 14.4% 36.7% 15.6% 8.7%
as Reliever 23.0 2.12 97 15 3 1 9 0 34 2 0.179 0.286 1.04 3.52 13.30 0.39 49.0% 13.7% 33.3% 25.0% 5.9%

texasdave
08-11-2010, 08:58 PM
LD% of 14.2 is outstanding. His numbers as a reliever would seem to indicate he is ready.

brm7675
08-12-2010, 10:59 AM
LD% of 14.2 is outstanding. His numbers as a reliever would seem to indicate he is ready.

23 innings shows he is ready? Talk about a small sample size..

schmidty622
08-12-2010, 11:06 AM
23 innings shows he is ready? Talk about a small sample size..

What threshold should he reach before you would consider him ready?

zjr1717
08-12-2010, 12:57 PM
The Bullpen has been solid for the Reds lately. It'll be nice to have Chapman when he comes up as a guy who can come out of the pen and strike guys out, especially as a lefty alternative to Rhodes to keep Arthur from running out of gas. But don't overestimate the kids impact coming out of the pen, where he'll only be appearing an inning or two at a time. And don't expect him to be starting this year either, they would have to stretch him back out. Remember as well that his innings are being closely monitored.

It wasn't the bullpen that lost this last series for the Reds and the pen has been very good except for CoCo for a while now. The last thing Aroldis needs is to be anointed the savior or the hero to put us over the top when he's just a kid. He can be a valuable and helpful piece to us this year of course, but thats what he is right now, a piece. He's far from a centerpiece, as he has a lot to figure out, namely his control. Expecting him to be the savior of the team is just to much, let him grow up first.