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Rockermann
08-17-2010, 06:42 PM
This from JFay:

The Reds are listing their rotation as:
Bronson Arroyo today
Edinson Volquez tomorrow
Travis Wood Thursday
Homer Bailey Friday
Johnny Cueto Saturday
Arroyo Sunday


More here: http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/08/17/rotation-leake-out/

aubashbrother
08-17-2010, 06:43 PM
sounds like OCab could be back tom. Probably Leake into long man role and carlos fisher being sent down with OCab taking his spot

mckbearcat48
08-17-2010, 06:45 PM
Surprised they haven't come up with an "injury" to Leake to keep his innings down that way.

Rockermann
08-17-2010, 06:48 PM
From Fay on Twitter: #Reds told Leake he's in bullpen for now. "I'd rather go every 5th day. But whatever I can do to help the team."

RedsRoll19
08-17-2010, 06:49 PM
Not really to mad about this, we knew it was going to happen sooner or later. Just glad we have all these other options or who knows what may have happened.

mckbearcat48
08-17-2010, 06:52 PM
Not really to mad about this, we knew it was going to happen sooner or later. Just glad we have all these other options or who knows what may have happened.

Depth is a good thing. Redlegs seem to have quite a bit of it these days.

Hey Meat
08-17-2010, 07:48 PM
Fine with me. Glad that he got a win the other day. Really think we messed him up by making him wait 8 days to start prior to his start before last. That messed up his rhythm. He would be a good long reliever.

Vottomatic
08-17-2010, 07:51 PM
Depth is a good thing. Redlegs seem to have quite a bit of it these days.

Rain is a good thing too!

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But I agree. The Reds starting pitching depth is unprecedented probably in their history. It's cool that if someone else comes up with an injury, Leake will then be available. But no reason to push him right now.

mlh1981
08-17-2010, 08:43 PM
Will this do anything to help him next year, though?

I'm not so sure cutting his innings this year helps him out in the future, in terms of building endurance.

I'm not saying burn through him like he's Mark Prior out there, but is this really in the best interest for him long term, or is this just a thought process for the rest of this season?

redsfan_12
08-17-2010, 08:52 PM
I really really hope Janish gets more time givin how he's performed during Ocabs absence

takealeake
08-17-2010, 09:02 PM
I've been saying for a while the best scenario is to put him in the pen as a long man to reduce his innings. I'm glad they're going through with it, because there's no need to push Mike his first year.

texasdave
08-17-2010, 09:23 PM
Reds' rotation no longer Leakes? Cool. :)

Girevik
08-18-2010, 08:45 AM
Will this do anything to help him next year, though?

I'm not so sure cutting his innings this year helps him out in the future, in terms of building endurance.

I'm not saying burn through him like he's Mark Prior out there, but is this really in the best interest for him long term, or is this just a thought process for the rest of this season?

I'm sure the Reds would love to keep him in the rotation, but the current theory out there is that if you increase a pitcher's innings by more than a certain percent from one year to the next, you greatly increase your chance of injury down the road. The Reds have said all year that based on what he threw last year, they wanted to cap Leake at about 170 innings, and they are getting awfully close to that point. They figure that by putting him in the pen, it allows them to more closely control how much he pitches.

This tells me that they have plans for him in the post season, otherwise they'd could have just shut him down all together.

Old NDN
08-18-2010, 03:08 PM
Good insurance if Homer (or other SP) isn't consistent. What's gonna happen when Harang thinks he's ready? Maybe another "long man" outta the pen? I guess it's a good dilemma to be in. I wonder how much veteran leadership and team chemistry will enter into their decision?

Kingspoint
08-18-2010, 03:54 PM
So, there's no longer a leake in the REDS' rotation.

New York Red
08-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Depth is a good thing. Redlegs seem to have quite a bit of it these days.
Isn't depth great? And that's why this is a good move. At long relief, Leake should only work maybe once a week, which will help keep his arm fresh. And the rest of the time he'll be available to pinch hit/pinch run. Depth is indeed a good thing.

Captain13
08-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Good insurance if Homer (or other SP) isn't consistent. What's gonna happen when Harang thinks he's ready? Maybe another "long man" outta the pen? I guess it's a good dilemma to be in. I wonder how much veteran leadership and team chemistry will enter into their decision?

If Harang doesn't start getting Minor Leaguers out, I don't care what he thinks. In my humble opinion, he should have already made his last start as a Red. The current rotation has five better pitchers (and Leake). Barring two injuries, I don't see how Harang makes it back into the mix.