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muddie
08-19-2010, 11:41 AM
The Cincinnati Reds have made one roster move impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to tonight's second game of a series against the Mobile BayBears.

LHP Donnie Joseph has been assigned to Carolina from High-A Lynchburg. Joseph began this season with Low-A Dayton, compiling an 0.78 ERA over 19 games before being moved to the Hillcats. With Lynchburg, Joseph was 0-4 with a 2.31 ERA and 17 saves. Joseph was the Reds' third-round pick in last year's draft from the University of Houston.

nemesis
08-19-2010, 11:46 AM
Odd they'd make this move so late in the year. Wonder what the reasoning was for it?

muddie
08-19-2010, 11:56 AM
Odd they'd make this move so late in the year. Wonder what the reasoning was for it?


I could go with a couple of theories...

The Mudcats used this as a part of a deal to re-up with the Reds. The Mudcats are staying with Cincy so...weak theory but what the heck. However you frame it, it may be some kind of PR deal inside the organization.

Or, more realistically, the Mudcats bull pen has been extremely inconsistent. I was surprised Justin Freeman got here before Joseph. These guys were a good combination in Lynchburg, maybe they can help here. Last nights catastrophe may have inspired the move.

OnBaseMachine
08-19-2010, 12:20 PM
Finally. I thought this move should have happened a month ago. Joseph has been filthy this season: 1.71 ERA in 58 innings, 23 walks and an amazing 96 strikeouts. 14.9 K/9. Hopefully Joseph can have a strong showing in Carolina and set himself up to begin the 2011 season in Louisville, assuming he doesn't make the Reds out of the spring training.

cinreds21
08-19-2010, 12:24 PM
The bullpen was taxed yesterday with Webb's start getting wasted.

And Muddie, how you know for sure that they are gonna resign?

muddie
08-19-2010, 12:26 PM
The bullpen was taxed yesterday with Webb's start getting wasted.

And Muddie, how you know for sure that they are gonna resign?


Trust me;)

backbencher
08-19-2010, 12:49 PM
Perhaps the team is trying to figure out whether to use a 40-man spot on Valiquette. Joseph would not get the spot, but his performance is part of the analysis.

dougdirt
08-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Finally. I thought this move should have happened a month ago. Joseph has been filthy this season: 1.71 ERA in 58 innings, 23 walks and an amazing 96 strikeouts. 14.9 K/9. Hopefully Joseph can have a strong showing in Carolina and set himself up to begin the 2011 season in Louisville, assuming he doesn't make the Reds out of the spring training.
From what I heard, it was supposed to happen a month ago, but then something happened and it didn't. I asked around but didn't get an answer from anyone about it, but more than a few guys said he was expected to be in Carolina a month ago but had it reversed on him.

cinreds21
08-19-2010, 05:58 PM
Perhaps the team is trying to figure out whether to use a 40-man spot on Valiquette. Joseph would not get the spot, but his performance is part of the analysis.

Kinda confused because Val is already on it and Joseph isn't eligible next year.

davereds24
08-19-2010, 06:29 PM
Kinda confused because Val is already on it and Joseph isn't eligible next year.

The Reds might feel Valiquette is expendable if they need to remove someone from the 40man. If guys like Corky, Izzy, Balentein are called up in Sept someone has to be removed. I would hope there are several guys they would cut before him though and Izzy getting hurt will probably save someone.

cinreds21
08-19-2010, 06:31 PM
The Reds might feel Valiquette is expendable if they need to remove someone from the 40man. If guys like Corky, Izzy, Balentein are called up in Sept someone has to be removed. I would hope there are several guys they would cut before him though and Izzy getting hurt will probably save someone.

I highly doubt they'd take a person who touches 96 consistently, and a lefty at that, off the roster even though he has some control issues. Izzy is on the DL so he isn't a lock to get called up, even though there is a good chance, granted that he's healthy.

johngalt
08-20-2010, 12:24 AM
From what I heard, it was supposed to happen a month ago, but then something happened and it didn't. I asked around but didn't get an answer from anyone about it, but more than a few guys said he was expected to be in Carolina a month ago but had it reversed on him.

Most likely because he was being talked about in a deal that was all but finalized and then fell apart.

mth123
08-20-2010, 02:47 AM
Odd they'd make this move so late in the year. Wonder what the reasoning was for it?

This could be both way-off and factually wrong, but IIRC, I think a team can only send 1 High A guy to the AFL with the league mostly stocked by AA players. These late promotions might be to set-up guys for an AFL stint. Mesoraco and Joseph are both guys who may figure into the Reds plans at some point n 2011, I'm guessing they both may be in line for the AFL.

JaxRed
08-20-2010, 07:03 AM
I like Mth123's theory best.

nemesis
08-20-2010, 09:55 AM
I like Mth123's theory best.

Agreed.

Hoosier Red
08-20-2010, 11:44 AM
This could be both way-off and factually wrong, but IIRC, I think a team can only send 1 High A guy to the AFL with the league mostly stocked by AA players. These late promotions might be to set-up guys for an AFL stint. Mesoraco and Joseph are both guys who may figure into the Reds plans at some point n 2011, I'm guessing they both may be in line for the AFL.

Does this point to why he was delayed? Or why he's up now. It appears as if they've slow played him, but maybe you think there's now someone else at High A they want to send to the AFL?

mace
08-20-2010, 11:46 AM
Does this point to why he was delayed? Or why he's up now. It appears as if they've slow played him, but maybe you think there's now someone else at High A they want to send to the AFL?

Hotchkiss? Soto?

Edit: Scratch Hotchkiss from the discussion. He was just promoted to Carolina.

mth123
08-20-2010, 12:50 PM
Does this point to why he was delayed? Or why he's up now. It appears as if they've slow played him, but maybe you think there's now someone else at High A they want to send to the AFL?

Maybe Grandal ends up there in the next couple of weeks? Same path as Alonso.

RedsManRick
08-20-2010, 04:55 PM
Most likely because he was being talked about in a deal that was all but finalized and then fell apart.

Or could be that they were planning on promoting somebody who they didn't end up promoting (Chapman?) and/or bringing on Izzy and Springer held the pipeline up.

Kingspoint
08-21-2010, 01:47 AM
Scratch Hotchkiss from the discussion. He was just promoted to Carolina.

Cool.

johngalt
08-22-2010, 12:17 AM
Or could be that they were planning on promoting somebody who they didn't end up promoting (Chapman?) and/or bringing on Izzy and Springer held the pipeline up.

Could be. But I know the trade rumor was there and almost a done deal.