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OnBaseMachine
08-24-2010, 02:30 PM
With Todd Helton getting older and not performing well, the Rockies are in need of a first baseman of the future and Troy Renck mentions Yonder Alonso as a potential target for the Rockies.


Finding a right-handed first baseman is and should be a priority. It's highly unlikely that the Rockies will make a play on a big-name free agent such as Paul Konerko, an ideal fit. That leaves two guys to focus on: Kansas City's Billy Butler and Cincinnati prospect Yonder Alonso, if they must go left-handed, even though it wouldn't be a great fit if Helton returns as a bench player. Butler has intriguing power and would give the Rockies more balance as a right- handed hitter behind Troy Tulowitzki.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15854094

I've always been a fan of Chris Nelson but he would have to be a throw in instead of the main piece. Their top prospect, LHP Tyler Matzek, is most likely off the table, and their second best prospect, LHP Christian Friedrich has struggled this season. I'm not sure if the Reds and Rockies match up well in a trade.

Homer Bailey
08-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Alonso, Leake, and Bailey for Ubaldo?

Ubaldo
Cueto
Arroyo
Wood
Volquez

?

nemesis
08-24-2010, 03:13 PM
Alonso, Cozart and Francisco for Tulowitzki.

Rumors have been they are back and forth on keeping Stewart at 3B. This allows them to move him off third. They have had an interest in Francisco before. Gives them a replacement at SS, and a 6 year fix at 1B

His splits aren't that extreme either...

Home OPS .929
Road OPS .863

flyer85
08-24-2010, 03:17 PM
Alonso, Cozart and Francisco for Tulowitzki.


I like the way you think. :beerme:

Ghosts of 1990
08-24-2010, 03:22 PM
Alonso, Leake, and Bailey for Ubaldo?

Ubaldo
Cueto
Arroyo
Wood
Volquez

?

If Ubaldo was a Reds player; would you trade him? Would our brass? He's untouchable.

lollipopcurve
08-24-2010, 03:26 PM
Tulowitzki is a great target. However, per Cot's, he can void his entire contract if traded. If he did that, he'd have 2 years till free agency. Now, maybe he's still a worthy target, I don't know. But when the Reds load up Alonso and whoever else in a deal -- and it's likely to happen -- I want them bringing back a difference maker who they have a chance to keep around.

But, wow, would love to see Tulo in Cincy.

Johnny Footstool
08-24-2010, 03:39 PM
The Rockies aren't trading Tulowitzki.

nemesis
08-24-2010, 03:39 PM
Tulowitzki is a great target. However, per Cot's, he can void his entire contract if traded. If he did that, he'd have 2 years till free agency. Now, maybe he's still a worthy target, I don't know. But when the Reds load up Alonso and whoever else in a deal -- and it's likely to happen -- I want them bringing back a difference maker who they have a chance to keep around.

But, wow, would love to see Tulo in Cincy.

I'd still deal all 3 if all they got was 2 years of him. Cincinnati has a long and great history of SS's. This is a young energetic team that a still 25 yr old Tulowitzki would fit right in with. Playing along side Votto, man would that be a great 2 hitter or what? His OBP is .384... :shutter:

No doubt this team is set up for a 2 or 3 year run, adding him would lessen the need for a top flight LFer and allow them to live with Heisey, Frazier or Sappelt out there.

nemesis
08-24-2010, 03:41 PM
The Rockies aren't trading Tulowitzki.

They might for the right package. Team needs a overhaul in some key area's. It might take some pitching to get him as well. He is one guy I'd overpay extremely for.

lollipopcurve
08-24-2010, 03:42 PM
The Rockies aren't trading Tulowitzki.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if they were willing to.

RedEye
08-24-2010, 03:58 PM
I dunno. As others have said, Tulo isn't likely to be traded. I'd argue that he's as valuable as Votto--and perhaps even more, considering the position he plays.

membengal
08-24-2010, 10:00 PM
That may be, but if they want an Alonso, then they have to be open to trading Tulo.

A package built around Alonso/Cozart and, say, Leake? That would not be something that could be automatically turned down without a second look in Colorado. Or, if it were quickly turned down, you wish them well and look at different suitors for Alonso.

Brutus
08-24-2010, 10:02 PM
That may be, but if they want an Alonso, then they have to be open to trading Tulo.

A package built around Alonso/Cozart and, say, Leake? That would not be something that could be automatically turned down without a second look in Colorado. Or, if it were quickly turned down, you wish them well and look at different suitors for Alonso.

There's no way I'd do that deal. Way too much. Way, way too much.

If they want Alonso, you let them overpay. Don't be the one to buckle because they have a need and you have a want.

bucksfan2
08-25-2010, 08:44 AM
Tulo and Ubaldo aren't being traded. Would the Reds trade Votto?

I get the interest in Alonso but lets be realistic here. No team in their right mind is going to trade a top 3 SS or a top 5 pitcher for a minor league 1b who is currently blocked in his position.

membengal
08-25-2010, 01:34 PM
Tulo and Ubaldo aren't being traded. Would the Reds trade Votto?

I get the interest in Alonso but lets be realistic here. No team in their right mind is going to trade a top 3 SS or a top 5 pitcher for a minor league 1b who is currently blocked in his position.

Who are you responding to? Not one person has suggested trading Alonso straight up for Tulo.

Every person has suggested varying packages that include Alonso as a piece to try and get Tulo.

blumj
08-25-2010, 01:54 PM
I remember reading some speculation a few months back that the Rockies might look to trade Iannetta in the offseason to try to address other needs, since they haven't shown much interest in using him as a starting catcher and he isn't cheap for a backup.

bucksfan2
08-25-2010, 02:04 PM
Who are you responding to? Not one person has suggested trading Alonso straight up for Tulo.

Every person has suggested varying packages that include Alonso as a piece to try and get Tulo.

The issue is the Rockies aren't trading Tulo. That is my point. To come up with some concocted trade that would include either Tulo or Jimenez is way off point. It just isn't going to happen at this stage in either of their careers. The Rockies may have had a disappointing season so far but they are similarly built for the long haul like the Reds. Guys like Tulo and Ubaldo who are cheap, good, and locked up for a long time just aren't moved.

I am all for moving Alonso but lets be practical in regards to players to target. I would love to see the Reds get Tulo, but at the same time why in the world would the Rockies trade him?

Johnny Footstool
08-25-2010, 02:06 PM
The Rockies might trade Tulo for Votto...

camisadelgolf
08-25-2010, 02:54 PM
The Rockies might trade Tulo for Votto...
I might be the only one crazy enough to consider that, but if the Reds are sure Yonder Alonso is the real deal, it makes a lot of sense for both sides. The Rockies could plug in their 2004 first round pick, Chris Nelson, at shortstop. They still have Ian Stewart for third base, and they could use Eric Young, Jonathan Herrera, or Clint Barmes at second base. Nolan Arenado is a 3B prospect they're really excited about, so they really just need a place holder for a little while.

Obviously, you'd have to wait until the off-season to make that move, but even though Tulowitzki might void his contract, he'd have only one more year of service time than Votto, so it's not like either side would be getting a player with several years of contract certainty.

membengal
08-25-2010, 04:34 PM
The issue is the Rockies aren't trading Tulo. That is my point. To come up with some concocted trade that would include either Tulo or Jimenez is way off point. It just isn't going to happen at this stage in either of their careers. The Rockies may have had a disappointing season so far but they are similarly built for the long haul like the Reds. Guys like Tulo and Ubaldo who are cheap, good, and locked up for a long time just aren't moved.

I am all for moving Alonso but lets be practical in regards to players to target. I would love to see the Reds get Tulo, but at the same time why in the world would the Rockies trade him?

Because he might not be untouchable and there might be packages that would make them think about it? I don't know any better than you do. So, on a board where it isn't life and death to chat about baseball, its something to muse over. Heck, Brutus thought the package I suggested was "way too much" to get Tulo. Of such views and yours conversations can be had.

Just sayin.

Mario-Rijo
08-25-2010, 06:12 PM
The Rockies might trade Tulo for Votto...

What about Alonso and Chapman??? :eek:

REDblooded
08-25-2010, 08:52 PM
I'm drinking a great 7.2% beer right now... Anybody thinking the Rockies would trade Tulo for Alonso, Cozart, and Francisco, or that the Reds should reject such an offer if the Rockies were willing to listen, is clearly drinking WAY better than I am right now...

Johnny Footstool
08-25-2010, 11:06 PM
What about Alonso and Chapman??? :eek:

They'd say, "Sure, throw those two in with Votto, and we've got a deal."

And both sides would laugh, and hang up.