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Redsfan320
08-29-2010, 11:35 AM
Stubbs 8
Valaika 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Heisey 7
Hernadez 2
Janish 6
Wood 1

Still no BP. At least Gomes is out of the lineup. BUT STUBBS LEADING OFF!! :angry:

I'll probably do some PBP

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Redsfan320
08-29-2010, 11:40 AM
MODS: Please DELETE on of the 2 threads for today's game. THANKS

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Redsfan320
08-29-2010, 12:35 PM
Fay:
Miguel Cairo (leg) and Laynce Nix (ankle) are better, but their playing status is still iffy today.

Had anyone heard anything about Miggy being hurt???

I did find this from Fay's blog last night:
Cairo tweaked a leg injury while running out a double in the San Francisco series, Baker said.

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_Sir_Charles_
08-29-2010, 12:58 PM
I thought Cairo got spiked at the end of the first game of the Cubs series?

~edit~ No, it was the final game of the Giants series. My bad. Sandoval sliding into second on a steal. Spiked Miggy. I never saw anything in the media, but several guys posted it during the game.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 01:12 PM
Cubs lineup:

2B Baker
SS Castro
CF Byrd
3B Ramirez
1B Nady
LF Soriano
C Soto
RF Fukudome
P Coleman

GAC
08-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Chi Cubs

J. Baker 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232
S. Castro ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308
M. Byrd cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302
A. Ramirez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
X. Nady 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
A. Soriano lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
G. Soto c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
K. Fukudome rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273
C. Coleman p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143

Cincinnati

D. Stubbs cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238
C. Valaika 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .326
S. Rolen 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .294
J. Bruce rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .270
C. Heisey lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
R. Hernandez c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299
P. Janish ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
T. Wood p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .080

edabbs44
08-29-2010, 01:50 PM
Cincy should absolutely pound this guy today. '

Should.

Redsfan320
08-29-2010, 01:50 PM
I actually probably will not do any PBP. I may be busy.

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Tornon
08-29-2010, 02:08 PM
When the cubs announcers were giving the lineup they had Hanigan catching, did something happen to Ramon or did they make a mistake

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:11 PM
Baker singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:11 PM
When the cubs announcers were giving the lineup they had Hanigan catching, did something happen to Ramon or did they make a mistake

Must have been a mistake because Hernandez is catching

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:13 PM
Castro grounds into a 1-4 FC.

nate
08-29-2010, 02:13 PM
Chat is open for open chattiness!

Kc61
08-29-2010, 02:14 PM
Cubs with a lot of right handed hitting. Hopefully Wood will keep them off balance.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:15 PM
Good play by Janish but Castro beats his throw to 2nd. 1st and 2nd. Infield hit for Byrd.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:16 PM
Poor decision by Janish there. Probably could have gotten Byrd at first.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:17 PM
Unreal luck so far for the Cubs.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:17 PM
Another infield hit. Bases loaded.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:17 PM
Okay, this is getting silly.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:19 PM
Wood has been ahead of like every hitter 1-2.... Balls are just finding holes

Kc61
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
Okay, this is getting silly.

Maybe not silly. Maybe, as Thom just said, the infield positioning could be better.

No reason why Janish should so consistently have to run a mile to get to the slow grounder. Two games in a row, this also happened at SF.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
That foul tip hit right off Hernandez's thumb

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
Nady K's. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
Nady strikes out swinging.

mth123
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
Big K

VR
08-29-2010, 02:20 PM
That's why they teach kids to hold that behind their back.

I don't see that not becoming a problem today.......not good at all.

VR
08-29-2010, 02:21 PM
A lot of pitches on the borderline being called balls so far.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:22 PM
3-1 count on Soriano

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:23 PM
Soriano flies out to center. 0-0 mid 1st.

VR
08-29-2010, 02:23 PM
as cowboy stated....never doubted it for a minute.

For 2 seconds, I thought that was a slam. But for a minute? nah

mth123
08-29-2010, 02:23 PM
Wood is gutsy. I'll say that. I like him more and more. Hope he holds up through the post season.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 02:23 PM
Reds get out of it, but they need to adjust that infield defense to avoid all these infield singles in the hole. That was a very dangerous situation.

Good pitching by Wood.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:24 PM
26 pitches by Wood in the 1st

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm excited to see Stubbs bat lead off today...

reds1869
08-29-2010, 02:25 PM
Nice job working out of trouble. The alignment wasn't good defensively, but if Janish isn't at short the Cubs have at least one run.

VR
08-29-2010, 02:25 PM
bunt please

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:26 PM
bunt please

I'll take a double please.... :)

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:26 PM
Stubbs doubles to left.

VR
08-29-2010, 02:26 PM
bunt please

I'll get over it....

mth123
08-29-2010, 02:26 PM
Nice start

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:27 PM
bunt here right?

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:27 PM
bunt here right?

I don't see a point... Stubbs will score on a single pretty much no matter what... Let the kid hit...

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:27 PM
Perfect bunt by Valaika. Stubbs to 3rd. 1 out.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:28 PM
I don't see a point... Stubbs will score on a single pretty much no matter what... Let the kid hit...

Give Votto sac fly opportunity. Gotta think Votto gets this run in here.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:28 PM
They'll probably pitch around Votto.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:28 PM
*Takes a bow*

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:28 PM
Votto grounds out to 1st. 1-0 Reds. RBI #93 for Votto.

VR
08-29-2010, 02:29 PM
I don't see a point... Stubbs will score on a single pretty much no matter what... Let the kid hit...

Yes. I'd have let Valaika try to hit or have Stubbs try to steal 3rd. For the fastest guy in baseball.....they just don't run that boy enough.

JaxRed
08-29-2010, 02:29 PM
Hate a bunt in that situtation. Got a run but ensured we don't have a big inning.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:29 PM
Rolen lines out to center. 1-0 Reds after 1.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:30 PM
Yes. I'd have let Valaika try to hit or have Stubbs try to steal 3rd. For the fastest guy in baseball.....they just don't run that boy enough.

Very very rare to try to steal 3rd with 0 outs.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Very very rare to try to steal 3rd with 0 outs.

Even with one of the fastest men in baseball?

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:32 PM
4 pitch walk to Soto

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:33 PM
Fukodome lines out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:35 PM
Coleman bunts into a 1-4 FC. 2 outs.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:36 PM
Even with one of the fastest men in baseball?

Yes. Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base. Baseball rule of thumb.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:37 PM
Yes. Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base. Baseball rule of thumb.

Sometimes rules are meant to be broken, I would of sent him on the 1st pitch.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:38 PM
Baker singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

Cedric
08-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Wood looks bad today. Not able to locate anything. Bad luck hasn't helped either.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Sometimes rules are meant to be broken, I would of sent him on the 1st pitch.

And that's why you're sitting here instead of in the dugout :)

Scrap Irony
08-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Wood not having the most effective outing so far. Troubling.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:39 PM
Already at 45 pitches. He is consistently falling behind in the count today.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 02:40 PM
And that's why you're sitting here instead of in the dugout :)

How do you know I'm not in the dugout? ;)

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:40 PM
Bloop single to center for Castro. Runner is thrown out a 3rd. 1-1 mid 2nd.

membengal
08-29-2010, 02:43 PM
Not sharp from Wood, but a TON of really bloopy hits and babip bad luck not helping. Hope that straightens out.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:44 PM
Bruce flies out to right.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:44 PM
Not sharp from Wood, but a TON of really bloopy hits and babip bad luck not helping. Hope that straightens out.

This. Baker's the only one who has made solid contact.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:45 PM
Good hustle. Bloop double to right for Heisey.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 02:45 PM
Ze Cubs are not ze only ones who can get ze bloops

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:45 PM
Nice little BABIP help for the Reds there.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:47 PM
Hernandez singles to center. 2-1 Reds!

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Janish flies out to left. 2 outs.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Janish has that pop up patented I think.

Cedric
08-29-2010, 02:51 PM
Janish has that pop up patented I think.

Gomes had it trademarked first. :0

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:51 PM
Wood grounds into a FC at 2nd. 2-1 Reds after 2.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Byrd strikes out swinging. 2 Ks for Wood.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:56 PM
Nice running catch by Stubbs. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:57 PM
Nady singles to center.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:58 PM
Soriano flies out to right. 2-1 Reds mid 3rd.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 02:58 PM
That Sutbbs catch was one of those catches that nobody will remember tomorrow because it wasn't very dramatic, but which a lesser fielder may very well not have made, resulting in a double.

It's "forgettable" plays like that which make me care about defensive metrics and be quite skeptical about an amateur scouting assessment. (which by the way, are poised to get REALLY good in the next 2-3 years based on what I saw in the f/x conference yesterday)

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 02:58 PM
57 pitches for Wood through 3.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:00 PM
57 pitches for Wood through 3.

I have a feeling he's gonna settle down a bit and give us 6

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:00 PM
57 pitches for Wood through 3.

Wood can go six. Ondrusek will pitch the seventh with all the righties. Hopefully, Dusty will then lift him for Masset in the 8th and Coco in the 9th. Reds win, hopefully.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Stubbs singles to left. 2nd hit of the day.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Stubbs having a day.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Stubbs took a fall going to 1st.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Stubbs with a single and falls down as he slipped getting to 1st.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:03 PM
Valaika flies out to center. 1 out.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 03:04 PM
"Drew stubbed his toe."

-Cubs announcer

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Votto lines a single to center. 1st and 3rd.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Votto with a shot to left center.

Stubbs does what they do in Cincinnati.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Stubbs does what they do in Cincinnati.

He eats Skyline?

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:07 PM
Rolen sac fly to center. 3-1 Reds

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:08 PM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 3-1 Reds after 3.

Tom Servo
08-29-2010, 03:09 PM
Stubbs does what they do in Cincinnati.
He didn't show up to the Reds game?

nate
08-29-2010, 03:10 PM
That Sutbbs catch was one of those catches that nobody will remember tomorrow because it wasn't very dramatic, but which a lesser fielder may very well not have made, resulting in a double.

It's "forgettable" plays like that which make me care about defensive metrics and be quite skeptical about an amateur scouting assessment. (which by the way, are poised to get REALLY good in the next 2-3 years based on what I saw in the f/x conference yesterday)

Exactly.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:11 PM
Soto singled to left.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:12 PM
Fukodome lines out to right.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:13 PM
Coleman with a couple weak bunt attempts strikes out on a foul bunt. 2outs.

Cedric
08-29-2010, 03:14 PM
Baker actually has good pop against LH pitchers. Hope Wood is careful.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:14 PM
John Lannan just doubled in 2 vs St. Louis.. 2-0 Nats

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
John Lannan just doubled in 2 vs St. Louis.. 2-0 NatsNats off to a good start against Wainwright.

membengal
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
Kinda doubled them in. Holliday misplayed the single all kinds of ways which allowed the second run to score.

Lannen was batting .059 before that single.

mth123
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
That Sutbbs catch was one of those catches that nobody will remember tomorrow because it wasn't very dramatic, but which a lesser fielder may very well not have made, resulting in a double.

It's "forgettable" plays like that which make me care about defensive metrics and be quite skeptical about an amateur scouting assessment. (which by the way, are poised to get REALLY good in the next 2-3 years based on what I saw in the f/x conference yesterday)

Yet you noticed it by watching on TV. How'd you do that without a stat? Or can only stat savvy fans notice things by watching?

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
Baker walks. Has been on base 3 times already.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:16 PM
Castro flies out to right on the 1st pitch. 3-1 Reds mid 4th.

71 pitches for Wood.

membengal
08-29-2010, 03:17 PM
Wainwright walks Kennedy on four pitches. Apporaching 40 pitches in thrown in just the second inning alone.

mth123
08-29-2010, 03:17 PM
John Lannan just doubled in 2 vs St. Louis.. 2-0 Nats

Imagine there's no Cardinals. Easy if you try,

membengal
08-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Wainwright finally stops the inning after a line drive out to LF from Desmond.

He sure doesn't look sharp and like himself through two innings in Washington.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Heisey fouls out to 1st.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:20 PM
Ramon's two singles have been in the same spot.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:20 PM
Hernandez singles to center. His 2nd hit today.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:21 PM
Janish lines out to 3rd. 2 outs.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:21 PM
Janish hits a smash but is a lil unlucky.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:22 PM
Wood singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:24 PM
Stubbs flies out to right. 3-1 Reds after 4.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:25 PM
Okay, I've been meaning to ask this for awhile.... How come after every ball throw in the dirt is there a new ball given to the pitcher?

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:25 PM
Yet you noticed it by watching on TV. How'd you do that without a stat? Or can only stat savvy fans notice things by watching?

They can notice it in the moment, but they don't tend to remember it very well.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:26 PM
Okay, I've been meaning to ask this for awhile.... How come after every ball throw in the dirt is there a new ball given to the pitcher?

Dirt can cause scuffs on the ball and some pitchers can make the ball do weird things then. I do admit it's a little over the top though

mth123
08-29-2010, 03:28 PM
They can notice it in the moment, but they don't tend to remember it very well.

If it happens routinely, as in the case of Stubbs, people remember. If it doesn't it really means nothing.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:28 PM
Byrd doubles down the right field line.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:28 PM
Dirt can cause scuffs on the ball and some pitchers can make the ball do weird things then. I do admit it's a little over the top though

Thats what I thought... Back in lil league... I used to pitch and if we were the home team during warm ups I'd throw wild all the time to get the ball roughed up... Throw it into the ground, at the plate, etc...

If I didn't do that... Looooook out...

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:29 PM
Ramirez pops out to 1st on the first pitch.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:30 PM
Nady bloop single to center. 1st and 3rd.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 03:30 PM
Ramirez pops out to 1st on the first pitch.
Dear Cubs: More of this kind of first pitch swinging please. :D

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 03:30 PM
4-0 Gnats!

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:31 PM
9 hits for the Cubs today. Wood is really walking a tightrope today.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:31 PM
4-0 Gnats!
Bunch of men.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:32 PM
9 hits for the Cubs today. Wood is really walking a tightrope today.

If Wood gets through this inning, he may be finished. But first, let's hope he survives this inning with the lead.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:32 PM
9 hits for the Cubs today. Wood is really walking a tightrope today.
I hope he's not hitting the brick wall that Mike Leake hit.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:32 PM
Soriano doubles to left. 3-2 Reds. 2nd and 3rd.

mth123
08-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Gomes would have had that.;)

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm walking Soto here. Guy has a .900 OPS and I want the double play on for Fukudome.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Just now they started LeCure warming up

Cedric
08-29-2010, 03:33 PM
What in the world? Sam LeCure? The bullpen is completely fresh and you want to grab LeCure?

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Just now they started Ondrusek warming up

Looks like LeCure to me...

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Just now they started Ondrusek warming up

Looks like Lecure.

Tie game.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:34 PM
What in the world? Sam LeCure? The bullpen is completely fresh and you want to grab LeCure?
Length, dude.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Ground out to short. Tie game 3-3.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Good idea Dusty. Set up the double play with 2 outs and waste the lefty-lefty matchup.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Teams are beginning to stack their lineups with righties for him AND I think he's a little tired. For pitchers this is a huge part of the learning process to becoming a real Major League pitcher. The season is loooooong, you've got to figure out a way to keep your team in the game as much as possible. ;)

Cedric
08-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Wood was very bad today. Fell behind almost every hitter. Luck or not you can't miss your location as bad as he did today.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Lecure pitched well last time out, so Dusty was probably impressed.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Intentional walk to Fukodome.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:36 PM
Good idea Dusty. Set up the double play with 2 outs and waste the lefty-lefty matchup.
Except that pitcher is up now.
And on top of that he's a lefty too.
And yeah.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:37 PM
Coleman strikes out swinging. 3-3 mid 5th.

muddie
08-29-2010, 03:37 PM
It looked like Wood left his off speed pitches at home today. That's his strength.

membengal
08-29-2010, 03:38 PM
Not a great outing for Wood, I assume he's done. Did get behind too much, still, I marvel at how awful the babip luck was.

Even still, held it to three runs. Could have been a lot worse.

Pull him now and save some bullets for his start next weekend in StL.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 03:39 PM
whew! 93 pitches in 5 innings...with 10 hits and 3 walks I think we're doing well to be tied at 3 runs. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:39 PM
Except that pitcher is up now.
And on top of that he's a lefty too.
And yeah.

And he basically conceded a run in the process. And may not have had to face the pitcher at all. And yeah.

You face the good hitting righty without a force play on and with a runner on third and then walk the lefty who follows him? Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me. A strikeout or pop fly is basically the only good outcome against Soto and those aren't likely. Once you let Soto hit, I get the walk. I just don't get letting Soto hit.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:40 PM
And he basically conceded a run in the process. And may not have had to face the pitcher at all. Yeah.
I would have walked Soto too, but walking Fukudome was the right move.

Orenda
08-29-2010, 03:41 PM
It looked like Wood left his off speed pitches at home today. That's his strength.

Wood didn't pitch well. However that pitch to Soriano was right where Hernandez was set up.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:41 PM
Valaika flies out to left.

JaxRed
08-29-2010, 03:42 PM
As many games as Wood got no support, I'd like to see Votto go deep and get TW a win.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:42 PM
Votto grounds out to 1st. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:43 PM
Rolen strikes out swinging. 3-3 after 5.

Cedric
08-29-2010, 03:46 PM
LeCure coming in. Ondrusek looks to be losing the trust of Dusty.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:46 PM
LeCure?

Really Dusty?

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:46 PM
LeCure in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Baker grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:47 PM
Wood 5IP, 10H, 3ER, 3BB, 4K

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:47 PM
LeCure coming in. Ondrusek looks to be losing the trust of Dusty.

Good observation. Ondrusek has been spotty of late. Lecure threw well last time and perhaps will be more effective as a reliever.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Castro grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Nice inning from LeCure lol

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Byrd strikes out swinging. 3-3 mid 6th.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:50 PM
LeCure?

Really Dusty?

Really.... Can't argue with the results....

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Looks like Sam might be le cure for the pitching staff

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Great inning from LeCure. 2 grounders and a K. I like him in this role.

Ron Madden
08-29-2010, 03:52 PM
Nice job by Sam LeCure. :thumbup:

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 03:52 PM
LeCure coming in. Ondrusek looks to be losing the trust of Dusty.
I don't think so. It's early in the game, the situation calls for the long man...that is Lecure's current role in the bullpen. He's the long man...it's as simple as that. ;)

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Bruce homers to right center!!! 4-3 Reds!

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Jay Bruce = On Fire.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Bruce BOMB!

:jump:

mth123
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Bruuuuce

WVRedsFan
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Bruce strikes again.

4-3

membengal
08-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Several of you think Ondrusek losing Dusty's trust because he didn't come in for the 6th? I don't follow.

Didn't Ondrusek throw a scoreless 7th in SF on Wednesday before he had problems in the 8th?

Seems to me Dusty sees Ondrusek as his 7th inning or so guy, not a "long man". And not sure where Ondrusek has "lost trust" unless I am forgetting other bad outings of late.

In any event, great inning from Lecure, exactly what you want to see from a relief pitcher in that situation.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:54 PM
Bruce has the prettiest swing on the team when he connects.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:54 PM
Bruce turning it on would be HUGE for this team down the stretch, taking a lot of pressure off of Votto.

PuffyPig
08-29-2010, 03:54 PM
BOOB, BOOM, POW.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:54 PM
BOOB, BOOM, POW.
Them chickens jockin my style?

Ron Madden
08-29-2010, 03:55 PM
I like that Bruce kid.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 03:55 PM
Bruce has more HR in August (7) than he had in May, June and July combined (6).

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:56 PM
Heisey flies out to right. 1 out.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:56 PM
Bruce has more HR in August (7) than he had in May, June and July combined (6).
He was due to hit a lot of homers in a short period of time. He just has too much power.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 03:56 PM
[QUOTE=membengal;2233568]Several of you think Ondrusek losing Dusty's trust because he didn't come in for the 6th? I don't follow.

Didn't Ondrusek throw a scoreless 7th in SF on Wednesday before he had problems in the 8th?

Seems to me Dusty sees Ondrusek as his 7th inning or so guy, not a "long man". And not sure where Ondrusek has "lost trust" unless I am forgetting other bad outings of late.[QUOTE]

Ondrusek has had a few subpar outings of late.

Not just the 8th inning in SF.

I think, however, that mainly Dusty was impressed with Lecure's last outing. He has looked good since recalled for longer relief. He may be going better than Ondrusek at this moment.

In any event, great inning from Lecure, exactly what you want to see from a relief pitcher in that situation.[

Tornon
08-29-2010, 03:57 PM
Ondrusek is warming up

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:57 PM
Hernandez just missed a long drive foul.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:58 PM
Hernandez strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 03:58 PM
Janish fouls out to 3rd. 4-3 Reds after 6.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 03:58 PM
Janish starting to look like 2009 Janish to me.

reds44
08-29-2010, 03:59 PM
Janish starting to look like 2009 Janish to me.
He did what he needed to. OC will be back at SS on Wednesday I bet.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 04:00 PM
Janish starting to look like 2009 Janish to me.I think he needs a little rest. OCab seems to be coming back just in time. :D

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:00 PM
Wow LeCure still in?

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:01 PM
Ramirez grounds out to short. 1 out.

TheBurn
08-29-2010, 04:01 PM
Nice Janish! :clap:

WVRedsFan
08-29-2010, 04:02 PM
What an arm Janish has. Wowzers!

Kc61
08-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Wow LeCure still in?

Lecure the relief pitcher, doing well. One out.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Wow LeCure still in? Yes, that's why they call it the 'Long Man'...he comes in when you need more than one inning. Ondrusek was warming up in case Lecure's spot came up to bat with runners on...then they would have pinch hit for him.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:02 PM
Nady flies out to right. 2 outs.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 04:03 PM
Brenly just compared the Big Boy mascot to Rod Blagojevich; hilarious.

LeCure is in there precisely because he can comfortably go 2-3 innings so that Dusty doesn't have to use 4 guys.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:03 PM
Yes, that's why they call it the 'Long Man'...he comes in when you need more than one inning. Ondrusek was warming up in case Lecure's spot came up to bat with runners on...then they would have pinch hit for him.
Oh I'm sorry. Normally you don't see long men pitching in the 7th inning of a one run game. My fault.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Brenly just compared the Big Boy mascot to Rod Blagojevich; hilarious.

LeCure is in there precisely because he can comfortably go 2-3 innings so that Dusty doesn't have to use 4 guys.
Yeah I laughed when he said that. He has a point too.

Two great innings of work from LeCure. Do you let him work a third?

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Great job LeCure.

mth123
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Way to go Sam.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Soriano strikes out swinging. Great job by LeCure. 4-3 Reds mid 7th.

BCubb2003
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Oh I'm sorry. Normally you don't see long men pitching in the 7th inning of a one run game. My fault.

Yes, I remember the days when the long man started in the fourth.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
LeCure did his work.... Time to get some more runs...

Brutus
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Looks like Sam might be le cure for the pitching staff

You made that up, didn't you?

:cool:

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 04:04 PM
Oh I'm sorry. Normally you don't see long men pitching in the 7th inning of a one run game. My fault.

Fair point, but the Reds don't exactly have a dominating middle reliever, assuming you want to keep both Masset and Rhodes available.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 04:05 PM
Looks like Gomes is the man to PH for LeCure

Kc61
08-29-2010, 04:05 PM
Lecure fans Soriano. That was a an important outing. Lecure just secured a relief spot for awhile. Call him a long man, a middle reliever, whatever.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:05 PM
Fair point, but the Reds don't exactly have a dominating middle reliever, assuming you want to keep both Masset and Rhodes available.
I'd expect us to go Rhodes-Masset-Cordero the last three innings.

With that being said, can't pitch any better than LeCure did.

BCubb2003
08-29-2010, 04:06 PM
The seventh-inning guy is often the most important reliever.

WVRedsFan
08-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Funny pictures of Gomes chomping on his cud while the pretty young girl sings "God Bless America." Too much :)

membengal
08-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Beautiful work from Lecure, threw strikes, got outs. Love it.

As for Ondrusek, here's his game log:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=ondrulo01&t=p&year=2010

He was part of the carnage in SF, but other than that, not seeing a lot of slippage. I certainly am not going to hold SF against him, or I would have to send about 8 reds pitchers on the next barge down the Ohio River.

At any rate, I am all for Lecure doing what he just did as much as possible the next month and a half. Nice asset to have on the team.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 04:06 PM
I'd expect us to go Rhodes-Masset-Cordero the last three innings.

With that being said, can't pitch any better than LeCure did.

Not a Rhodes game. Too many righty hitters.

Interested to see if he uses Masset who's pitched a lot lately. I would use him. Let him rest Thursday.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Nat still up 4-0 on the Cards through 5.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 04:07 PM
I'd expect us to go Rhodes-Masset-Cordero the last three innings.

With that being said, can't pitch any better than LeCure did.

I don't think Dusty wants to do that. Then you're forced to bring in Bray/Ondrusek if one of them struggles. I might have had Masset warming just in case, but I think it was the right call.

Excellent job by LeCure. 2 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K, 19 pitches.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Looks like Gomes is the man to PH for LeCure
Can I just say I like this outfield. I wish we used this setup more often...I even like Gomes coming in as a PH. :D

membengal
08-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Two innigs from Massett last night, hard to see Dusty using him again, but maybe.

RedsManRick
08-29-2010, 04:08 PM
Can I just say I like this outfield. I wish we used this setup more often...I even like Gomes coming in as a PH. :D

I think there are roughly 498,897,123 people on RedsZone who agree with you.

membengal
08-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Heck, I might have been okay with Lecure going one more inning the way he's thrown the last two.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:10 PM
Francisco pinch hitting.

Mateo in to pitch

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 04:11 PM
Juan swings hard.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:11 PM
Can he walk???

Brutus
08-29-2010, 04:11 PM
Thinking back to last night... anyone see Carlos Marmol's K rate? He's got 108 ks in 60 innings. Just insane.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Francisco strikes out swinging.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Can he walk???
No.

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
That's a BIG swing for a 2 strike count.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
A bunt hit for Stubbs!

WVRedsFan
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Francisco looks silly swinging so hard, but if he connects...

K

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
LOL. Stubbs makes it look way too easy sometimes.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Bunt single for Stubbs. 3rd hit today.

Tornon
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Stubbs is a monster

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Man... Oh Man... He is fast

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Here's Valaika's goal:
dont ground into a DP.

BCubb2003
08-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Stubbs is the new Jay Bruce.

Brutus
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Stubbs is a monster...against the Cubs

Wanted to make, what I felt, was an important addition.

Ron Madden
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
A bunt hit for Stubbs!

He should do that more often. :beerme:

WVRedsFan
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
bunt. For Votto and I'm a guy who hates the bunt.

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Stubbs needs to be running here.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Here's Valaika's goal:
dont ground into a DP.

Exactly.

Question is whether Stubbs will try and steal.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
bunt. For Votto and I'm a guy who hates the bunt.
No. They'd just walk Votto.

reds44
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Speed is a beautiful thing.

He pretty much bunted for a triple.

RedsMan3203
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Stubbs needs to be running here.

Speed Kills....

Homer Bailey
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Drew Studds.

WebScorpion
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Can he walk???No way! He's paid to unload into the baseball whenever possible. He's like a coiled up spring and when he hits the trigger he's gonna punish something...this time it was the air. :(

Reds Fanatic
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Stubbs steals 2nd and goes to 3rd as the throw goes into center. 23 steals for Stubbs.

Kc61
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Stubbs has really had a great game today.

JaxRed
08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Exactly.... steal was a much better call