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Homer Bailey
08-31-2010, 03:52 PM
Stubbs CF
Valaika 2b
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Heisey RF
Hanigan C
Janish SS
Harang P

Cedric
08-31-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm beginning to fall in love with Dusty.

I said it.

membengal
08-31-2010, 04:30 PM
Yeah, another A++ line-up from Dusty.

reds44
08-31-2010, 04:42 PM
There's two non-home grown players in that lineup.

Hopefully Heisey has a good night and keeps Gomes on the bench.

medford
08-31-2010, 04:44 PM
interesting that heisey gets the nod, Bruce moves up to 5th, Stubbs back in the leadoff spot. Nothing to complain about, just not what I was expecting.

Getting a little worried about Brandon, I'd like to see him get some swings in against live pitching before the Cards series. At this point I'm assuming they're going to hold him out tomorrow as well since Dusty has a history of holding guys back an extra day or two when coming off of an injury.

edabbs44
08-31-2010, 05:01 PM
There's two non-home grown players in that lineup.

Hopefully Heisey has a good night and keeps Gomes on the bench.

I hope I'm wrong but this matchup doesn't bode well for Heisey.

I'm really curious as to why he has had zero early success vs SP this season.

aubashbrother
08-31-2010, 05:17 PM
Is anything wrong with Hernandez ?

HeatherC1212
08-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Is anything wrong with Hernandez ?

Harang was pitching mainly to Hanigan earlier in the season so I imagine Dusty is using Ryan here to help Aaron out in his first start back after a long layoff. That seems like a good idea to me and hopefully it helps him pitch well tonight. I just saw Ramon in the game on Sunday afternoon and he looked perfectly fine. I imagine we'll see Ramon matched up with Cueto tomorrow night.

membengal
08-31-2010, 06:23 PM
interesting that heisey gets the nod, Bruce moves up to 5th, Stubbs back in the leadoff spot. Nothing to complain about, just not what I was expecting.

Getting a little worried about Brandon, I'd like to see him get some swings in against live pitching before the Cards series. At this point I'm assuming they're going to hold him out tomorrow as well since Dusty has a history of holding guys back an extra day or two when coming off of an injury.

Supposedly Phillips taking ground balls and doing other baseball activities in warm-ups. I think it's the Dusty thing of waiting an extra day or two. One of Dusty's traits I really like.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 06:29 PM
Is anything wrong with Hernandez ?

I was wondering that myself. Not because of who's starting, but because of him grabbing his hamstrings after reaching 3rd the other night. He was promptly replaced by Phillips as a pinch runner.

BRM
08-31-2010, 06:36 PM
Saw this on Fay's blog.


Arthur Rhodes is not available tonight. That greatly increases the chances of Chapman pitching.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 07:08 PM
There's two non-home grown players in that lineup.

Hopefully Heisey has a good night and keeps Gomes on the bench.

Well... Not so fast...


Bruce is out of the line up....

Gomes to LF, Heisey to RF.

No reason yet on why Bruce was scratched.

reds44
08-31-2010, 07:11 PM
That's not good.

RedsManRick
08-31-2010, 07:13 PM
Per Reds Twitter, Bruce has been scratched and Gomes is in. No explanation.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 07:27 PM
Here is your reason why Bruce is out....


CincinnatiReds
Bruce scratched for precautionary reasons with pain in right side.

Caveat Emperor
08-31-2010, 07:32 PM
Hopefully nothing to worry about, but you hate to see a bat as hot as his out of the lineup for any reason.

Homer Bailey
08-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Not good news at all.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 07:42 PM
LeCure out with the princess bag... Chappy in!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg831/scaled.php?tn=0&server=831&filename=1i8j.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

reds44
08-31-2010, 07:53 PM
That's a good looking man right there.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:01 PM
Here is your reason why Bruce is out....

Celebration injury? Janish & Gomes beat him out of the lineup?

Cedric
08-31-2010, 08:01 PM
Hope it's not appendix problem.

durl
08-31-2010, 08:01 PM
I wonder how many people wouldn't complain if Chapman were to give up a HR as long as they got to see 105 on the Pitch Speed board at some point. ;)

paintmered
08-31-2010, 08:04 PM
Hope it's not appendix problem.

My first thought as well.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:10 PM
"And this game is underway!"

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:10 PM
Harang's been here through a lot of the bad years, so I have a soft spot for him. It'd be great if he could be a contributing member for this team down the stretch.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:11 PM
Cannon. Love it.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:11 PM
Good play by Janish.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:11 PM
Hart lines a single to center.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:12 PM
Hart has some really bad tats.

kbrake
08-31-2010, 08:13 PM
Harang's been here through a lot of the bad years, so I have a soft spot for him. It'd be great if he could be a contributing member for this team down the stretch.

Yep exactly my thoughts. For a couple years he was the only pitcher in Cincinnati really worth watching.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:14 PM
Well, if nothing else, Harang looks sharp. He's pounding the strike zone.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:14 PM
LOL. I had to say something. Nearly plunked him.

REDblooded
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
God love Indianapolis... Can't purchase MLB Extra Innings, because we're within blackout range, and miss 1/2 of the games that are on FSNoh...

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
Darn. That looked like a pretty DP.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
Nice play by Valaika starts a 4-6-3 ground out. They did not get the out at 2nd.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
Nice pick from CV.

Cedric
08-31-2010, 08:16 PM
Marty mentions appendix and Bruce. Says that is likely culprit. Getting checked out.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:16 PM
Marty mentions appendix and Bruce. Says that is likely culprit. Getting checked out.

What bad luck. Bruce gets on a total roll and now has to deal with that.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:16 PM
Bloop...run

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:17 PM
There is nobody there again tonight.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:17 PM
Fielder bloop singles to left. 1-0 Brewers

CTA513
08-31-2010, 08:17 PM
Beat by the shift on that hit.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
Harang's not fooling anybody.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
Hits, Hits, Hits....

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
McGehee singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:18 PM
Starting to get up in the zone now. He started out low...slowly rising.

REDblooded
08-31-2010, 08:19 PM
Looks like the Harang that I expected to show up, showed up... He should give up.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:19 PM
If it's Bruce's appendix, that's potentially a disaster, right? Isn't that what caused Harang to get shut down last year in August?

KoryMac5
08-31-2010, 08:19 PM
No faith in Harang tonight.

sivman17
08-31-2010, 08:20 PM
If it's Bruce's appendix, that's potentially a disaster, right? Isn't that what caused Harang to get shut down last year in August?

It varies from person to person. Some people are out for weeks, some people only days.

They might not have to perform an appendectomy. Might just be inflammation that can be treated with antibiotics.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:20 PM
Looks like the Harang that I expected to show up, showed up... He should give up.

I know he has had some problems staying on the mound this year.. But come'on! Homer was in the same spot last night....

kbrake
08-31-2010, 08:21 PM
If it's Bruce's appendix, that's potentially a disaster, right? Isn't that what caused Harang to get shut down last year in August?

Wikipedia says 4 to 6 weeks if it hasn't ruptured.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:21 PM
If it's Bruce's appendix, that's potentially a disaster, right? Isn't that what caused Harang to get shut down last year in August?

Yes you are right. That is what happened to him last August.

REDblooded
08-31-2010, 08:21 PM
When you can't get a pitch past anybody, you can't be an effective pitcher...

Harang has nothing on his pitches...

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:21 PM
It varies from person to person. Some people are out for weeks, some people only days.

They might not have to perform an appendectomy. Might just be inflammation that can be treated with antibiotics.

Thanks. I will hold out hope its the antiobiotic version of an appendix issue.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:21 PM
Wikipedia says 4 to 6 weeks if it hasn't ruptured.
Somebody get Francisco an OF glove.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
K

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
Nice pitch. Dickerson strikes out looking. 1-0 Brewers mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
Remember a few weeks back when this team had 6 OFs. Suddently Edmonds, Nix and now possibly Bruce all out.

Cedric
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
Should hold off until something is official. Maybe he celebrated too much last night and got the beer gas.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:23 PM
I think we're jumping the gun here on appendix. Remember the Reds all jumped him last night and pounded on him after the walkoff. It's gotta be Gomes. He plays too rough. Put him in "time out". Seriously though...let's just wait until we know something.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:23 PM
Remember a few weeks back when this team had 6 OFs. Suddently Edmonds, Nix and now possibly Bruce.
If Bruce is out for an extended period of time, who is the next outfielder in line? Balentin? Alonso?

The thought of Gomes playing everyday makes me skittish.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:23 PM
Do the Reds have until Midnight tonight to set get everything in order?

I know Yonder isn't available for playoffs yet, but they could make that move tonight to help..

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 08:24 PM
You'd think a pitcher had never given up a run before.

Harang could have been out of that inning on the close DP, and then the fluke hit.

The game is far from over.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
You'd think a pitcher had never given up a run before.

Harang could have been out of that inning on the close DP, and then the fluke hit.

The game is far from over.

Exactly. He's keeping it in the zone. Decent movement. Solid velocity.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Do the Reds have until Midnight tonight to set get everything in order?

I know Yonder isn't available for playoffs yet, but they could make that move tonight to help..
They don't have to call everybody up at midnight. They could call nobody up if they wanted too. It's totally up to them. They can call up anyone at anytime that's on the 40.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Drew has been rather cold against the Brewers... Ave .083

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
If Bruce is out for an extended period of time, who is the next outfielder in line? Balentin? Alonso?

The thought of Gomes playing everyday makes me skittish.

Also Edmonds they had originally estimated would be out 2 to 3 weeks. So it is possible he might be back next week or the week after.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Drew takes the walk.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Leadoff walk to Stubbs.

Cedric
08-31-2010, 08:26 PM
Pretty sure Lucroy couldn't throw me out. Stubbs time to move.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:26 PM
Exactly. He's keeping it in the zone. Decent movement. Solid velocity.
This is what people always say about Harang, and then he's getting hit all over the place.

And for anybody who is saying Harang had bad luck that inning, he didn't. That ball Valaika fielded is a single if the runner wasn't going.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:26 PM
Valaika up. You'd think they have to keep him on the club. He's certainly played well enough to earn it I think.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
They don't have to call everybody up at midnight. They could call nobody up if they wanted too. It's totally up to them. They can call up anyone at anytime that's on the 40.

That I understand, but as of 7:27 on 8/31 I do not think that Yonder is available for the post season roster...

How can the Reds make him available is what I'm asking...

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Chris with a single up the middle!

Tornon
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Chris Valaika is the new Albert Pujols

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Also Edmonds they had originally estimated would be out 2 to 3 weeks. So it is possible he might be back next week or the week after.
Fay said he hasn't even started baseball activities, so it's going to be at least that long.

1st and 2nd noooobody out.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Valaika lines a single to center. All he does is hit.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Valakia has been a revelation, no?

kbrake
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
MVP MVP MVP

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
Send them all!

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
HEY! Shot down the RF line. Double for Votto. 2-1 Redlegs.


Marty~"that ball almost undressed Fielder"

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
The MVP lines a double down the line!! 2-1 Reds!

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
There's your current RBI leader in the NL...

sivman17
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like EVERY SINGLE TIME Votto bats with someone on base he knocks them in?

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
96 RBI for Votto.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
96 RBI

Matt700wlw
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
M

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Tornon
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
"that ball almost undressed Fielder"

I don't think any of us want to see that...

redhawkfish
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Man can Votto rake!!

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
*whew* Nearly a dp there.

pedro
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Valakia has been a revelation, no?

He looks great. Makes you wonder if flipping Phillips in off season might be an option.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Rolen lines out to 1st. Gallardo is fooling no one.

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Heart Skipped a beat.... I thought Votto was gonna get his hand stepped on.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Votto is decent.

BCubb2003
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't think any of us want to see that...

We want no part of that.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
Rolen lines out to 1st. Gallardo is fooling no one.

Same said for Harang. Could it be that these two clubs can simply HIT THE BALL? :O)

Pretty much 1 & 2 in all offensive categories in the NL.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:31 PM
Gomes lines out to right. 2 outs.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 08:31 PM
Liners keep coming

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:31 PM
Darn. Another nice snag. This one by Hart. Gomes scorched it. Good sign

Cedric
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
Francisco is our only option in the outfield tonight off the bench.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
By the way Bruce was just sitting on the bench. Too soon to tell but if they really thought he had a serious appendix problem no way he would be sitting there.

Big Klu
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
Cameras just showed Bruce sitting comfortably in the dugout. Now is not the time to overreact, folks.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
By the way Bruce was just sitting on the bench. Too soon to tell but if they really thought he had a serious appendix problem no way he would be sitting there.

Good catch. And you're absolutely right.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:33 PM
Heisey strikes out swinging. 2-1 Reds after 1.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:33 PM
Hi-C k's to end the inning. But the Reds take the lead. 2-1 heading to the 2nd.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:34 PM
By the way Bruce was just sitting on the bench. Too soon to tell but if they really thought he had a serious appendix problem no way he would be sitting there.

Good news. Someone tell Marty B to stop scaring us.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:35 PM
Votto leading in BA and RBI's. (tied with CarGo in BA)

Brutus
08-31-2010, 08:35 PM
By the way Bruce was just sitting on the bench. Too soon to tell but if they really thought he had a serious appendix problem no way he would be sitting there.

Yessir. It it were believed to be an appendix problem, especially one that required an appendectomy, he would be en route to the hospital.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:36 PM
LuCroy flies out to right.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:39 PM
Nice snag by Valiaka

BCubb2003
08-31-2010, 08:39 PM
How are his tonsils? Chicken pox? Mumps?

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
Counsell lines out to Valaika.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
How are his tonsils? Chicken pox? Mumps?

Polio?

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
Cooties. Definitely Cooties.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:41 PM
2 down. Gallardo up. Don't overlook him. Solid hitting pitcher.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Crud. Just what I thought. Single to left.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Gallardo singles to left on an 0-2 pitch. He just served up a hanging slider right down the center of the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:42 PM
2 out rally. Single to Weeks.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:42 PM
Weeks singles to left. Brewers hitting .500 already (5 for 10 against Harang)

Homer Bailey
08-31-2010, 08:42 PM
Watching Harang is fun. Siiiiike.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:43 PM
This is the part of Harang that his peripherals are not hiding. When he gets hit, by and large, NOT cheapies.

TheNext44
08-31-2010, 08:43 PM
Cabrera would have had that ;)

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:45 PM
Hart strikes out swinging. 2-1 Reds mid 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:45 PM
KK

Matt700wlw
08-31-2010, 08:45 PM
Cameras just showed Bruce sitting comfortably in the dugout. Now is not the time to overreact, folks.


:runawaycr

WVRedsFan
08-31-2010, 08:45 PM
Obviously a fastball hitting team. Curve just mystifies Hart.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:46 PM
Again, I don't think anyone here is over-reacting. The discussion was based on Marty B's saying it might be "appendix". I am sure we would all be thrilled if Marty was irresponsibly talking out of his orifice.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:47 PM
This is the part of Harang that his peripherals are not hiding. When he gets hit, by and large, NOT cheapies.

Agreed. But at this point in his career (and on THIS staff) he's a number 4 or 5 starter at best. As long as he keeps you in the game and gives you innings...that's all I'm looking for. The occasional gem and the occasional bomb...overall average to below average.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:48 PM
Hanigan grounds out in front of the plate.1 out.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:49 PM
Nubber in front of the dish. Lucroy bobbles it, but Hanny is not Stubbs.

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 08:50 PM
Harang has given up 5 singles in 9 AB, for a BABIP of .556.

Lets not release him just yet.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
Ground out to 3rd from Janish. 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
Janish grounds out to 3rd. he is one for his last 15 ABs.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
Harang has given up 5 singles in 9 AB, for a BABIP of .556.

Lets not release him just yet.

Indeed not. But part of the reason it is 5 for 9 is that four of the five hits have been absolute bullets.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
Harang has given up 5 singles in 9 AB, for a BABIP of .556.

Lets not release him just yet.

I agree....but most of those balls were smoked. BABIP can be decieving IMO.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:52 PM
Good stat from Thom Reds have the best record in all baseball in August 18-8.

Harang grounds out to Gallardo. 2-1 Reds after 2.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:52 PM
Harang has given up 5 singles in 9 AB, for a BABIP of .556.

Lets not release him just yet.
Wasn't that his excuse in AAA too?

He's given up 1 run, so I'm not complaining. But Aaron Harang gives up a lot of hits. That's what he does.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:52 PM
Harang with a BOMB!!!!!


that dribbles back to the pitcher. :O) 3 down.

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 08:53 PM
Indeed not. But part of the reason it is 5 for 9 is that four of the five hits have been absolute bullets.

If Harang could control his line drive rate, he could control BABIP.

BCubb2003
08-31-2010, 08:55 PM
We're just hoping Harang's an upgrade over Volquez at present, right?

CTA513
08-31-2010, 08:55 PM
Don't leave the sliders and curves up and he can still have some success.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:56 PM
We're just hoping Harang's an upgrade over Volquez at present, right?

Exactly. At worst...he gives you innings. Many more than Volquez would.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:56 PM
Braun walks.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
Harang channeling Volquez

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
Fielder grounds out to Harang. Runner to 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
1-3. Tapper back to Aaron. 1 down.

reds44
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
We're just hoping Harang's an upgrade over Volquez at present, right?
He's pretty much Volquez, except instead of walking everybody he gives up a ton of hits.

membengal
08-31-2010, 08:58 PM
We're just hoping Harang's an upgrade over Volquez at present, right?

I am.

And, for the record, I was for Harang back into the rotation and EV mothballed. And still am.

Harang generally throws strikes, altho a leadoff walk to Braun is not helpful. At any rate, Harang's recent propensity to give up bullets is ameliorated by his not generally walking people. And, he can't walk people.

At any rate, EV's command issues coming off TJ surgery make him too much of a wild card for my comfort in the rotation right now.

That said, let's not fool ourselves over Harang's babip. It's high because he doesn't generally fool batters at this point and teams can really square up on him. It happened in his rehab stints, it happened earlier this year, and it's happening tonite.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:01 PM
He's pretty much Volquez, except instead of walking everybody he gives up a ton of hits.

And yet it's still only 1 run allowed. We're acting like the sky is falling it seems.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:01 PM
And yet it's still only 1 run allowed. We're acting like the sky is falling it seems.

I don't see where anyone is acting like that. I thought it was just fans discussing baseball...

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:02 PM
McGehee flies out to right. Runner to 3rd. 2outs.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:02 PM
Fly out to Heisey. Braun advances to third. 2 down for Dickerson.

reds44
08-31-2010, 09:02 PM
And yet it's still only 1 run allowed. We're acting like the sky is falling it seems.
There's been outings this year where Volquez has walked the world and still kept his run total down. They both give up a ton of baserunners.

Really right now it's either you take Harang eating innings or you go with Volquez because you hope he can improve.

Neither are great options.

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 09:02 PM
That said, let's not fool ourselves over Harang's babip. It's high because he doesn't generally fool batters at this point and teams can really square up on him. It happened in his rehab stints, it happened earlier this year, and it's happening tonite.

So pichers with less stuff have higher BABIP's?

I didn't know that.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:03 PM
I don't see where anyone is acting like that. I thought it was just fans discussing baseball...

Probably just the fact that SEVERAL people all posted basically the same thing complaining about the number of hits allowed. Sure, each person only said it once...but it seemed like a barrage. My bad. (just went back and re-looked)

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:03 PM
Aaron Harang should be scoring runs for us while he's pitching

Cyclone792
08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Harang is leaving a lot of balls up tonight, especially fastballs. Watch Hanigan's target low on a lot of his pitches, and watch Harang miss the target by a significant margin up on a lot of fastballs. We've been fortunate that some of the Brewers good cuts have been right at guys - Valaika's made a couple nice plays - and Brewers hitters have missed a few mistake pitches too.

Hopefully Harang starts getting the ball down a bit, otherwise things could get dicey.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Liner to Janish. Walk did NOT haunt. *whew*

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Line out to Janish ends the inning. 2-1 Reds mid 3rd.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:05 PM
So pichers with less stuff have higher BABIP's?

I didn't know that.

I wasn't equating him with having less "stuff". I was noting that what is throwing right now is not fooling anyone, and has not been. His fastball at 92 is nice, but the breaking ball is inconsistent and it lets hitters sit on the fastball.

Like just happened there to Dickerson, got lucky that line drive was at Janish.

Again, I thought we were just fans talking.

Also, I kinda wish you would quote all of that post you responded to, rather than chopping it up to make some sort of point. I am a Harang fan.

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 09:05 PM
Harang hasn't pitched in the major leagues for a few months, after two rehab starts.

He's entitled a bit of rust.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:06 PM
If BP comes back before Cabrera, does anybody think we might see Valaika start starting at SS?

reds44
08-31-2010, 09:07 PM
If BP comes back before Cabrera, does anybody think we might see Valaika start starting at SS?
OC is going to be activated Friday.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:08 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:08 PM
OC is going to be activated Friday.

Good news. It will be good to have him back. Janish has carried the water well in his absence, but looks tired to me.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:09 PM
One of Aaron's problems before his back problems was velocity....losing a couple mPh on his fastball and slider is a HUGE advantage to the batter. He wasn't pinointing pitches...and the loss of velocity gave him no 'finish' pitches.

His form look a LOT better, not as stiff legged as his back injury caused him to be. Lets hope he can get stretched out and get that velocity back.

1 run through 3 is a pleasant surprise....hope he gets a quality start in here.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:09 PM
Valaika strikes out swinging.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:10 PM
Wow...there's a stat for you. When Harang falls behind a hitter, hitters are hitting .395 against him this year.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:11 PM
Wow...there's a stat for you. When Harang falls behind a hitter, hitters are hitting .395 against him this year.

exactly......not able to put batters away with that lost velocity

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:12 PM
Votto grounds out to 2nd. 2-1 Reds after 3.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:12 PM
The Y-Man has settled down a bit

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:12 PM
Votto grounds out to Weeks. End of 3, 2-1 Redlegs.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:13 PM
The Y-Man has settled down a bit

Yep, not a good sign. We need to keep the pressure on him. 9 straight sat down by him.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:15 PM
LuCroy flies out to the track in right.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:15 PM
It's nice to see the atom ball outs in the opposite direction for once

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
Jeezus Scott

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
Counsell lines a single off Harang's foot.

Red in Chicago
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
yet another infield hit...seems like a crazy number have occurred since the giants series

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
ouch.

Cedric
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
Jeezus Scott

Did you mean RIGHT at our players?

VR
08-31-2010, 09:17 PM
Cards go scoreless in the 1st.

John Jay's August OpS down to .654.

Anyone surprised? Anyone?

Brutus
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
yet another infield hit...seems like a crazy number have occurred since the giants series

Yeah, the past week has had an inordinate number of infield hits.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
Did you mean RIGHT at our players?

I meant it was nice to see the other team making hard hit outs instead of us for once

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
Cards go scoreless in the 1st.

John Jay's August OpS down to .654.

Anyone surprised? Anyone?

Maybe the guy who traded Ludwick???

VR
08-31-2010, 09:20 PM
Maybe the guy who traded Ludwick???

:ughmamoru

(I always wanted to use that smiley)

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:20 PM
Gallardo singles to right. His 2nd hit tonight. 1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:21 PM
Cards and Astros scoreless after 1.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:22 PM
I wonder if Aaron's foot is starting to bother him

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:22 PM
This is off to an ugly start. 3-0 count on Weeks.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:23 PM
Full count on Weeks.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:23 PM
Weeks walks. Bases loaded with 1 out.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:24 PM
Chapman stretching

Red in Chicago
08-31-2010, 09:24 PM
this could get ugly fast....

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:24 PM
Bray and LeCure warming up

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
this could get ugly fast....

That wasn't very ugly

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
BIG DP!!!!!

My internet connection died, so I missed that whole half inning...except the double play. :O)

Nasty weather here in Houston...I wouldn't count on me for pbp, that's for sure.

Red in Chicago
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
this could get ugly fast....

or not;)

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
What a play by Rolen. 5-4-3 DP!!!! 2-1 Reds mid 4th.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
HUGE.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
give rolen a 40 year extension please. Sheesh.

TheBurn
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
:clap:

CTA513
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
Good job by Rolen and Votto

reds44
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
Thank you Scott Rolen.

Definatley going to see Chapman tonight.

Brutus
08-31-2010, 09:27 PM
Thank you Scott Rolen.

Definatley going to see Chapman tonight.

I'm all a tingle with antici.......




....pation.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:27 PM
Cards go down 1-2-3 in the 2nd. 0-0 mid 2nd.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:28 PM
BIG DP!!!!!

My internet connection died, so I missed that whole half inning...except the double play. :O)

Nasty weather here in Houston...I wouldn't count on me for pbp, that's for sure.

Send your internet provider a thank you note.....you missed an ugly set up to that dp.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:28 PM
Send your internet provider a thank you note.....you missed an ugly set up to that dp.

Exactly. I was just thinking that after I went back and re-read that half of the inning.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:29 PM
Rolen lines a double to the wall in right center.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:29 PM
Scottie! 2 bagger off the wall.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:29 PM
There's no I in Insurance!!

Brutus
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
There's no I in Insurance!!

Man, I gotta learn to spell. I coulda swore there was.

:D

reds44
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Gomes!

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Gomes homers to right!!! 4-1 Reds!!!

Red in Chicago
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
jonny!!!!!!!!!!

RedsMan3203
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
J.G. BOMB!

:jump: :jump:

Cedric
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Hope Gomes and Bruce keep taking off!

TheBurn
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Jonny Boy :D

Brutus
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
That was kind of cool.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
So it's basically like Jay hit that, right?

VR
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Somebody showed jonny the hidden treasure map that shows right field! hooray!

CTA513
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Its good to see Gomes hitting the ball to right field.

reds44
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
I like this Heisey character.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Opposite field HR to boot. Great swing from Gomes. Site for sore eyes from him. If he remembers that nice line drive swing from earlier in the year and goes back to using all fields, that would be swell...

Brutus
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
So it's basically like Jay hit that, right?

That's a Jedi Mind Trick.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Heisey! Double!

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Heisey lines a double to the wall in right center.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:32 PM
I like this inning. :O)

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:32 PM
3 straight opposite field hits.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:32 PM
Astros go down 1-2-3 in the 2nd. 0-0 after 2.

PuffyPig
08-31-2010, 09:32 PM
You gotta think this is our year.

Anytime anyone is injured, his replacement seems to do even better.

Cairo replacing Votto?

When I found out Bruce couldn't play, I was very disappointed. But even Gomes comes through.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:33 PM
Gallardo is Spanish for "Reds batting practice"

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:33 PM
You gotta think this is our year.

Anytime anyone is injured, his replacement seems to do even better.

Cairo replacing Votto?

When I found out Bruce couldn't play, I was very disappointed. But even Gomes comes through.

Yep. Cairo replacing both Votto and Rolen. Valaika replacing Phillips and now Gomes replacing Bruce.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:34 PM
Yep. Cairo replacing both Votto and Rolen. Valaika replacing Phillips and now Gomes replacing Bruce.

Don't forget Harang replacing Leake :)

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:34 PM
Yep. Cairo replacing both Votto and Rolen. Valaika replacing Phillips and now Gomes replacing Bruce.

Janish for Cabrera.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:34 PM
Hanigan grounds out to 2nd. Runner to 3rd.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:35 PM
Why don't they walk Paul?

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:35 PM
That was a gross pitch

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:35 PM
Failed squeeze play and Heisey is out. 2-5-3-6.

edabbs44
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
brutal

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
Squeeze....ugh. Janish failed to get the bunt down. He's usually pretty good at that. Wasn't meant to be.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
It's gotta make it easier on the Reds to admit injuries, even small ones, knowing they have teammates to pick them up if they need a few games off.

And it makes it easier for Dusty to do what he likes to do, which is nip injuries in the bud with games off rather than letting them get worse.

It's just so much fun to follow a team with everyone contributing like this.

Bad luck trying the squeeze on THAT pitch. Next to impossible to get bat on ball there.

Tornon
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
Squeeze....ugh. Janish failed to get the bunt down. He's usually pretty good at that. Wasn't meant to be.

That wasn't that easy of a pitch to bunt

CTA513
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
Not the easiest pitch to bunt.

VR
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
nearly impossible to reach that ball.

Much like going from 1st to 3rd......you're not going to get em all.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
That wasn't that easy of a pitch to bunt

I know. That's what I meant by it wasn't meant to be. Decent idea, just bad timing.

TheNext44
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
That wasn't that easy of a pitch to bunt

That was a nearly impossible pitch to bunt. tight curve diving low and outside.

_Sir_Charles_
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
LOL. Of course. Single for Janish.

Reds Fanatic
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
Janish lines a single to center.

membengal
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
And then Janish singles.

Rats.