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GADawg
09-04-2010, 10:16 PM
Matt Holiday I mean....the guy makes Jonny Gomes look like a young Barry Bonds out in LF...also Aaron Miles finally got to help the Reds win a game...not exactly like he drew it up in the spring!

Chip R
09-04-2010, 10:25 PM
:D

Homer Bailey
09-04-2010, 10:52 PM
Holliday is an above average defender in left.

kaldaniels
09-04-2010, 10:59 PM
I thought about posting something very similar...Holiday may very well be a good LF by the numbers...but he often looks very very bad.

cincrazy
09-04-2010, 11:02 PM
Holliday is an above average defender in left.

Ehhhhhhh..... I don't think he's Gomes-level bad (who is?), but Holliday has shot the Cards in the foot on more than one occasion the last few years.

nate
09-04-2010, 11:04 PM
Ehhhhhhh..... I don't think he's Gomes-level bad (who is?), but Holliday has shot the Cards in the foot on more than one occasion the last few years.

That doesn't mean he's not above average.

He's been consistently above average over the years. A bad play/game/week doesn't change that.

OnBaseMachine
09-05-2010, 12:24 AM
UZR has always shown Holliday to be an above average defender. But, man, I don't see it. It seems like every time I watch him he's screwing up a play. He's not Gomes bad but he's not above average from what I've seen. I remember watching him badly misjudge a flyball in the 2007 one game playoff that nearly lost the game for the Rockies. Then he dropped that line drive to cost the Cardinals a game in the NLDS last year. Then today he screwed up a couple other plays, and there have been others too. It looks to me like he has trouble judging balls off the bat. Maybe I'm just catching him on his bad days but I haven't been overly impressed with his defense.

blumj
09-05-2010, 12:50 AM
Sometimes, it seems like some fielders can make 50 mistakes and only 5 to come back to bite them, and others can make 5 mistakes and all 5 bite them. Baseball's weird that way. I don't see enough of Holiday to know if he's one of the second group or if he just isn't that good, but most teams seem to have 1 guy who's terrible but gets away with it and another guy who's good but never gets away with any mistake at all.

GAC
09-05-2010, 05:18 AM
I don't think he's a bad defender. After all, he got a leg up on that one ball. :D

mth123
09-05-2010, 07:04 AM
Eh, he's a LF. Most of them are bad. If they could field, they'd be playing another position.

max venable
09-05-2010, 07:24 AM
The Reds had three doubles in that game and ALL THREE could have/should have been caught by Holliday. Maybe he just had a bad game but it was a REALLY bad game. And I'm grateful for it. :)

MattyHo4Life
09-05-2010, 11:14 PM
Ehhhhhhh..... I don't think he's Gomes-level bad (who is?), but Holliday has shot the Cards in the foot on more than one occasion the last few years.

Well...Holliday has only been a Cardinal for a little over a year. So if he has hurt the Cards over the last few years, then it must have been making good plays in Colorado. ;)

MattyHo4Life
09-05-2010, 11:16 PM
Sometimes, it seems like some fielders can make 50 mistakes and only 5 to come back to bite them, and others can make 5 mistakes and all 5 bite them. Baseball's weird that way. I don't see enough of Holiday to know if he's one of the second group or if he just isn't that good, but most teams seem to have 1 guy who's terrible but gets away with it and another guy who's good but never gets away with any mistake at all.

Most of the time Holliday makes the play. When he doesn't make the play, it usually comes at a bad time and makes all of the highlight shows.

oregonred
09-06-2010, 12:06 AM
The gloating threads don't seem to work out too well... One swing and the game was over.

The Operator
09-06-2010, 04:30 AM
The gloating threads don't seem to work out too well... One swing and the game was over.The gods of baseball frown on cockiness and complacency.

MattyHo4Life
09-06-2010, 08:21 AM
The gloating threads don't seem to work out too well... One swing and the game was over.

I think there should be more gloating threads around here. :)

Somebody needs to start a "Colorado Rockies aren't very good" thread. :beerme:

membengal
09-06-2010, 08:36 AM
The gloating threads don't seem to work out too well... One swing and the game was over.

You'd think we'd learn...

blumj
09-06-2010, 08:39 AM
Between those and the Padres thread, it is a little spooky.

Chip R
09-06-2010, 10:33 AM
I think there should be more gloating threads around here. :)

Somebody needs to start a "Colorado Rockies aren't very good" thread. :beerme:

I'd rather see a "Milwaukee Brewers aren't very good" thread. ;)

Mario-Rijo
09-06-2010, 07:01 PM
I think there should be more gloating threads around here. :)

Somebody needs to start a "Colorado Rockies aren't very good" thread. :beerme:

I vote you start it. :cool:

MattyHo4Life
09-06-2010, 07:13 PM
I vote you start it. :cool:

Oh no....that wouldn't be a good idea. lol I'm not messing with the
Baseball Gods... they are much too powerfull. You can start it though! :)

MattyHo4Life
09-06-2010, 07:20 PM
Out of curiosity... what do you guys think of Kyle Lohse? :)