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cumberlandreds
09-23-2010, 12:59 PM
The Cards strand a couple of runners. No Score in the 2nd.

cumberlandreds
09-23-2010, 01:11 PM
The Pirates can't take advantage of a couple of runners and we are scoreless after two.

Degenerate39
09-23-2010, 01:13 PM
Not sure where to ask this, and positive it doesn't warrant it's own thread, so I'll ask here.

Does anyone know where I can find the Reds road E.R.A. for the season, and where it ranks among the NL and MLB?

Thanks.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/34/league/al

cumberlandreds
09-23-2010, 01:27 PM
The Cardinals are tatooing Burres and the Pirates in the 3rd. Four runs and counting.

cumberlandreds
09-23-2010, 01:42 PM
Cards lead 4-0 after three. I guess it's just too much to ask of the Pirates to sweep.

redsmetz
09-23-2010, 02:14 PM
It's now 7-1 Redbirds in the bottom of 5th.

OldXOhio
09-23-2010, 02:22 PM
It's now 7-1 Redbirds in the bottom of 5th.

And the magic number thread has hit 2 why?

redsmetz
09-23-2010, 02:25 PM
And the magic number thread has hit 2 why?

I think the last two photos are indicating another variation on "3" - a 3 point shot and a field goal (although it could have been an extra point too).

cumberlandreds
09-23-2010, 03:45 PM
Cards win 9-2. That means the Reds can't clinch at least until Saturday.

cumberlandreds
09-24-2010, 01:35 PM
The Cards play the Cubs at 2:20 this afternoon. Wainwright goes against Gorzelanny.

vaticanplum
09-24-2010, 02:39 PM
Cards have scored three already at Wrigley. 3-0 top of the second.

cumberlandreds
09-24-2010, 02:40 PM
The Cards have taken a 3-0 lead after one. Allen Craig hit a 3 run HR in the 1st.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 03:26 PM
Cards are up 6-1 in the top of the 5th. This Cubs line-up is just dreadful.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 03:29 PM
Sacks are jammed for the Redbirds with one out in the 5th. No question, we need to just take care of our business and wrap this thing up. Cubs are changing pitchers, Berg coming in.

cumberlandreds
09-24-2010, 03:30 PM
I have a feeling the Reds will need to sweep the Padres this weekend if they want to clinch it before they get home.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 03:37 PM
Pick up one more run, 7-1 and it's actually just the middle of the 4th. My bad.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 03:53 PM
Still 7-1 in the middle of the 5th.

And end of the 5th, same score. Cubs are bums.

RBA
09-24-2010, 04:00 PM
It maybe a nail bitter if the Reds don't win at least 1 in San Diego. Sometimes panics sets in when teams get a little pressure on them.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 04:28 PM
Still 7-1 at the end of 7 innings. Ugh, this Cubs team is just awful.

Phhhl
09-24-2010, 04:39 PM
It maybe a nail bitter if the Reds don't win at least 1 in San Diego. Sometimes panics sets in when teams get a little pressure on them.

Let's put it this way. I am the biggest worrier on this board, and if you knew me you would concur. I was worried last week, and I was worried until this team took the first two against the Brewers.

But, that is no longer the case. They don't have to win a single game in San Diego, either. Although, it would be nice to win all three.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 04:41 PM
Top of the ninth, still 7-1.

westofyou
09-24-2010, 04:43 PM
Still 7-1 at the end of 7 innings. Ugh, this Cubs team is just awful.

13-6 this month, they'll win 2 out of 3 and relish drowning the Cards chances

Brutus
09-24-2010, 04:45 PM
13-6 this month, they'll win 2 out of 3 and relish drowning the Cards chances

So true. For as great of pleasure as the Cubs take in sucking, they take greater pleasure in not sucking when it means beating the Cardinals.

That is what makes them so lovable, I think.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 04:45 PM
13-6 this month, they'll win 2 out of 3 and relish drowning the Cards chances

WOY, thanks for giving me the recent history. I hadn't really looked what they've done, but this particular line-up today seems to be filled with light hitters.

redsmetz
09-24-2010, 04:58 PM
Game over, Cardinals win 7-1. Time for us to take care of business.

OnBaseMachine
09-25-2010, 01:49 PM
The Cardinals already lead the Cubs 3-0 in the third inning. It doesn't appear the Cardinals are going to allow the Reds to back in. The Reds need to take care of their own business.

Brutus
09-25-2010, 01:58 PM
The Cardinals already lead the Cubs 3-0 in the third inning. It doesn't appear the Cardinals are going to allow the Reds to back in. The Reds need to take care of their own business.

I'm actually glad. I don't want things getting interesting, and it would have been nice to have this locked up by now, but I'd rather the Reds keep focused and having to play good baseball to win.

OnBaseMachine
09-25-2010, 02:04 PM
Cubs have scored two runs in the bottom of the third to make it 3-2. Sam Fuld 2-run single gives the Cubs a 4-3 lead...

PuffyPig
09-25-2010, 02:04 PM
A Cards error opens the door to 4 Chicago runs.

Chrissy not too happy.

Wheelhouse
09-25-2010, 02:15 PM
I'm thrilled Chrissy may go down to a bitter, bitter loss. I don't think I've ever disliked a player more. Except for the fact that his attitude is part of the reason the Cards have folded so badly.

membengal
09-25-2010, 02:24 PM
Aramis singles home Castro in bottom of 4th. Cards pen up.

5-3 Cubs.

Wheelhouse
09-25-2010, 02:27 PM
LaRussa tossed from game for arguing balls and strikes mid-inning. Reeks of just not wanting to watch the game. Carpenter with typical smarmy deportment after yielding another run. Cubs 5-3.

PuffyPig
09-25-2010, 02:27 PM
Chrissy at 95 pitches after 4.

1 inning more at the most.

He's had 1 K and 4 W's.

membengal
09-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Yeesh, Blake Hawkesworth just hit square in the face with a line drive. Bad. It might have been around his mouth/jaw. Not good.

membengal
09-25-2010, 02:41 PM
He's at least walking off under his own power, so that's good news. Bleeding from the lip/mouth it looked like. I would guess some dental work is in his immediate future.

OnBaseMachine
09-25-2010, 02:43 PM
That looked bad, at least he was able to get up and walk off under his own power. Hopefully he'll be okay.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 02:51 PM
The Cardinals pulled a Reds move and walked a .056 hitting pitcher. Dewitt promptly triples in 2 runs. 7-3 btm 5th.

VR
09-25-2010, 03:07 PM
I'm thrilled Chrissy may go down to a bitter, bitter loss. I don't think I've ever disliked a player more. Except for the fact that his attitude is part of the reason the Cards have folded so badly.

I feel guilty about the satisfaction I receive from an outing like that. Love it.

Brutus
09-25-2010, 03:16 PM
OK yeah. I said earlier that I was happy the Cardinals have been winning to keep some pressure off. I meant it when I said it, but now that I think about it more, yeah I'm glad Carpenter struggled today and may get the loss. That won't bother me a bit.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 03:32 PM
The Cardinals already lead the Cubs 3-0 in the third inning. It doesn't appear the Cardinals are going to allow the Reds to back in. The Reds need to take care of their own business.

Are you saying the Cards are not going to lose 3 more games? If not, what are you saying?

alloverjr
09-25-2010, 03:42 PM
Are you saying the Cards are not going to lose 3 more games? If not, what are you saying?

He probably meant that the Reds need to win some games. Just hypothesizing, although I assume that wasn't really the reason for your post.

HeatherC1212
09-25-2010, 03:45 PM
Yeesh, Blake Hawkesworth just hit square in the face with a line drive. Bad. It might have been around his mouth/jaw. Not good.

Oh ouch! I hope he's all right. I love the Cards losing but I hate when players get injured like that so randomly. :eek: :(

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 03:47 PM
He probably meant that the Reds need to win some games. Just hypothesizing, although I assume that wasn't really the reason for your post.

I don't understand the statement "The Cards aren't going to let the Reds back in"...and I don't understand "I assume that wasn't really the reason...."

Sorry.

OnBaseMachine
09-25-2010, 03:59 PM
He probably meant that the Reds need to win some games. Just hypothesizing, although I assume that wasn't really the reason for your post.

Yeah, pretty much. The Reds can't just sit back and rely on the Cardinals to lose. The Reds need to win some games too. I want that No. 2 seed.

HokieRed
09-25-2010, 04:00 PM
Maybe the confusion's in the phrase "back in"--not meaning "back into it" but "back in," as in winning the division without winning the games.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 04:07 PM
Maybe the confusion's in the phrase "back in"--not meaning "back into it" but "back in," as in winning the division without winning the games.

Thats it...I didn't read it that way.

fearofpopvol1
09-25-2010, 07:20 PM
The Reds are super lucky that the Cards have stunk lately.

CTA513
09-25-2010, 07:20 PM
The Reds are super lucky that the Cards have stunk lately.

:beerme:

oregonred
09-25-2010, 07:28 PM
The Reds are super lucky that the Cards have stunk lately.

Understatement of the year. Team is brutal to watch right now. Ugly baseball coupled with some ugly decisions.

OnBaseMachine
09-25-2010, 07:31 PM
Go Cardinals opponents! Go Cubs! Go Pirates! We need you.

What has happened to the Reds offense and defense? Both have been putrid in September.

Three weeks ago it looked like the Reds might win 93/94 games. Now they have to finish 4-3 in their final seven games just to get to 90 wins.

reds1869
09-25-2010, 08:07 PM
The Reds have undoubtedly been horrible the last month. Fortunately, terrible runs are often followed by torrid ones. Let's hope we see a tear through October.

Redsfan320
09-25-2010, 10:30 PM
Rangers clinched the AL West earlier, beating the A's 4-3, and Neftali Feliz setting the record for saves by a rookie.

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WebScorpion
09-26-2010, 12:02 AM
I saw a headline on the MLB site that said the Cards loss today 'dimmed' their playoff hopes. :eek::confused: What are these people...on dope!?! The Cards playoff hopes are the Reds losing every single game and the Cards winning all but one of theirs OR The Cards winning every one of theirs and ALL the wild card contenders losing every one of their games. :p:

Can you say 'unpossible'? The Reds really don't NEED to win any more games...the Cards will lose at least 2 of their remaining 8 games. The Reds just need to make sure everyone is as healthy as possible going into the playoffs. :thumbup:

CTA513
09-26-2010, 12:03 AM
Rockies won 10-9 in the 10th inning

Tulowitzki: 4 for 5 with a single, 2 doubles, a HR and 5 RBIs
Hes now hitting .340 with 15 HRs and 40 RBIs this month

Kc61
09-26-2010, 12:10 AM
Rockies won 10-9 in the 10th inning

Tulowitzki: 4 for 5 with a single, 2 doubles, a HR and 5 RBIs
Hes now hitting .340 with 15 HRs and 40 RBIs this month

Good, keep the Rockies in the race.

They finish with the Cards. Just in case, would like those games to be meaningful to the Rocks so they can help the Reds. Just in case.

Reds Fanatic
09-26-2010, 02:26 PM
3-0 cards on a Pujols home run.

OnBaseMachine
09-26-2010, 02:26 PM
Pujols 3-run HR. Cardinals lead the Cubs 3-0 with no outs in the top of the first inning.

HokieRed
09-26-2010, 02:27 PM
If the Reds are going to make any hay today, it's going to have to be by winning. Cubs have put a Double-A pitcher on the mound.

BearcatShane
09-26-2010, 02:31 PM
If the Reds are going to make any hay today, it's going to have to be by winning. Cubs have put a Double-A pitcher on the mound.

Yeah, never heard of him. He honestly looks like he should be playing football today rather than baseball.

Reds Fanatic
09-26-2010, 02:34 PM
Now 4-0 Cards in the first

redsmetz
09-26-2010, 02:41 PM
If the Reds are going to make any hay today, it's going to have to be by winning. Cubs have put a Double-A pitcher on the mound.

Really? He may be a rookie, but he's pitched in AAA since sometime in 2008 and had decent start against the Cardinals earlier this month. He's hardly a AA pitcher. Loads of pitchers have given up 3 run shots to Pujols.

Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Pujols should never hit 3-R HRs. NEVER! Because you shouldn't be stupid enough to pitch to him with 2 runners on . :angry:

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Ron Madden
09-26-2010, 03:28 PM
Westbrook has given up 0 hits and 0 runs as Cards lead Cubs 4-0 after 4 innings.

Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 03:36 PM
7-0. I hate the Cubs even more than the Cards right now if that's possible.

oh, and Westbrook has a NO-HITTER GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEAR THAT!!! A NO HITTER!!!!

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RBA
09-26-2010, 03:36 PM
Westbrook has given up 0 hits and 0 runs as Cards lead Cubs 4-0 after 4 innings.

Is that a no-hitter so far? :D

Ron Madden
09-26-2010, 03:38 PM
Is that a no-hitter so far? :D

Yes it is, I tried to mess it up. :)

Brutus
09-26-2010, 03:54 PM
Good work on the no-no jinx. Cubs score 2 runs in the 5th.

Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:18 PM
8-3, now. Cubs have 'em 2nd and 3rd with 0 out. Can we possibly pull out that C-shaped rally onion for the Cubs?

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Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:23 PM
Loaded with 1 down now, Motte coming in to face Wellington Castillo (catcher)

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Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:26 PM
Force out at 3rd, but a run scores. 2 down, 8-4 for Hoffpauir.

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Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:27 PM
8-5 on a base hit!!!

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Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:27 PM
Fuld up, 1st and 2nd with 2 out.

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Redsfan320
09-26-2010, 04:29 PM
K looking. Rally over.

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mth123
09-26-2010, 04:39 PM
wrong thread

OnBaseMachine
09-26-2010, 04:49 PM
It's now 8-6 and the Cubs have a runner on third with only one out.

batsfan
09-26-2010, 04:49 PM
8 - 6 now, with a runner on 3rd 1 out for the Cubs due to an error by Rasmus...

batsfan
09-26-2010, 04:50 PM
Sac fly by Fukudome. 8 - 7. Getting very, very interesting...

batsfan
09-26-2010, 04:55 PM
Soriano reaches on a dropped third strike...

batsfan
09-26-2010, 04:57 PM
Scales walks....

batsfan
09-26-2010, 05:01 PM
And Castillo strikes out. Going to the 8th, 8-7...

batsfan
09-26-2010, 05:13 PM
Cardnals loaded them up with one out, but Pagnozzi grounds in to the double play!

batsfan
09-26-2010, 05:23 PM
Frankin brought in for a five-out save, and walks the first batter, Sam Fuld.

batsfan
09-26-2010, 05:24 PM
Wild pitch, Fuld to second...

vaticanplum
09-26-2010, 05:25 PM
Cubs, I take back all the bad things I've ever said about you. Temporarily.

Brutus
09-26-2010, 05:34 PM
Well, it was a good effort by the Cubs, but it looks like they lost the mojo.

Tom Servo
09-26-2010, 05:35 PM
lousy bums

vaticanplum
09-26-2010, 05:35 PM
Well, it was a good effort by the Cubs, but it looks like they lost the mojo.

Still one inning left, no?

HokieRed
09-26-2010, 05:36 PM
Really? He may be a rookie, but he's pitched in AAA since sometime in 2008 and had decent start against the Cardinals earlier this month. He's hardly a AA pitcher. Loads of pitchers have given up 3 run shots to Pujols.

He threw about as bad a first inning as possible. He has no command whatever of anything that moves.

Brutus
09-26-2010, 05:36 PM
Still one inning left, no?

Yes, but I'm just not feeling it anymore :)

Brutus
09-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Cubs escape a jam in the 9th, limit the Cardinals without any runs. Going to the bottom of 9, still 8-7.

This is the first time (and only time hopefully) in my life that I want to be able to sing, "The Cubs are going to win today" after the game.

Brutus
09-26-2010, 05:52 PM
Not even a wimper for the Cubs. Just as I figured.

Oh well. The Reds can now clinch in Cincinnati, potentially.

vaticanplum
09-26-2010, 05:53 PM
I now reinstate all the bad things I've ever said about the Cubs.

SirFelixCat
09-26-2010, 06:17 PM
Is it wrong/bad to want St. Louis to WIN tomorrow, assuming the Reds hold on tonight? I don't want them to clinch on a day off...

Degenerate39
09-26-2010, 06:36 PM
Is it wrong/bad to want St. Louis to WIN tomorrow, assuming the Reds hold on tonight? I don't want them to clinch on a day off...

I hope there's a rain out

traderumor
09-26-2010, 07:39 PM
While the Cubs could not play the spoiler today, they did plenty to help us out this year, as did the Pirates and Astros.

vaticanplum
09-26-2010, 08:16 PM
Is it wrong/bad to want St. Louis to WIN tomorrow, assuming the Reds hold on tonight? I don't want them to clinch on a day off...

Just think of how sweet the homecoming will be on Tuesday!

WebScorpion
09-26-2010, 09:10 PM
Who would have guessed when we got him in 2006 that Kyle Lohse might clinch the division for the Reds in 2010? :D

Brutus
09-27-2010, 08:41 PM
1-0 Pirates in the second.

We have a special game thread on the game forum for those that want to follow along.

vaticanplum
09-27-2010, 09:37 PM
Phillies up 8-0 in the ninth. Think it's safe to say at least one NL title will be handed out tonight.

Cyclone792
09-27-2010, 09:38 PM
By the way, Martin Prado looked like he may have gone down with an oblique injury about five minutes ago in the Braves/Marlins game. That certainly isn't going to be good for Atlanta.

fearofpopvol1
09-27-2010, 09:41 PM
Pirates up 4-2 heading into the 6th!

mbgrayson
09-27-2010, 09:44 PM
Phillies up 8-0 in the ninth. Think it's safe to say at least one NL title will be handed out tonight.


Phils win 8-0 on a complete game shutout by Doc Holliday. A two hitter, on 97 pitches.... They are the team to beat in the NL.

vaticanplum
09-27-2010, 09:44 PM
Phils win 8-0 on a complete game shutout by Doc Holliday. They are the team to beat in the NL.

In terrible rain, apparently. Maybe he'll get pneumonia?

Redsfan320
09-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Phils clinch the East with that win.

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batsfan
09-27-2010, 09:57 PM
Holliday ties it with a 2-run HR.

Bob Borkowski
09-27-2010, 10:40 PM
Cards lead 5-4, middle of the 8th.

LvJ
09-27-2010, 10:42 PM
Anyone know what the playoffs schedule as far as home games go?

Chip R
09-27-2010, 10:51 PM
In terrible rain, apparently. Maybe he'll get pneumonia?

Or tuberculosis. ;)

vaticanplum
09-27-2010, 11:00 PM
The way the Reds have been playing, and the way the ASTROS have been playing...if the Cardinals go on a tear this week, there is a very good chance the Reds won't clinch until late this week or the weekend. This makes me very uncomfortable in terms of rest for the playoffs. Also, I am going to have a heart attack.

Sea Ray
09-27-2010, 11:36 PM
By the way, Martin Prado looked like he may have gone down with an oblique injury about five minutes ago in the Braves/Marlins game. That certainly isn't going to be good for Atlanta.
What's with all the oblique injuries?

VR
09-27-2010, 11:40 PM
What's with all the oblique injuries?

I blame P90X

The Operator
09-27-2010, 11:41 PM
I have a general question - why are all the pundits basically saying The Braves are dead? I saw several articles over the weekend with titles such as "Say goodnight for The Braves", etc. and they are still right in the heart of the wild card race. I don't get it.

Am I missing something?

kaldaniels
09-27-2010, 11:47 PM
The way the Reds have been playing, and the way the ASTROS have been playing...if the Cardinals go on a tear this week, there is a very good chance the Reds won't clinch until late this week or the weekend. This makes me very uncomfortable in terms of rest for the playoffs. Also, I am going to have a heart attack.

The Reds just took 2 of 3 from the Astros and since then Houston is 2-5.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 12:39 AM
Cubs lead the Padres 1-0 tonight in San Diego, which would drop the Padres into a tie with the Reds one game behind San Fran. However, Marmol has loaded the bases with 2 outs in the 9th on an infield hit, HBP and walk.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 12:41 AM
Cubs hang on. Win 1-0.

The Operator
09-28-2010, 12:42 AM
That Padres offense is BAD.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 12:43 AM
That Padres offense is BAD.

Yes, although Carlos Zambrano pitched tonight and he's been on fire the last few weeks.

oregonred
09-28-2010, 12:53 AM
Reds easily could have swept in SD with a couple breaks and some better managerial decisions on Fri/Sat.

Let's just get this thing over with tomorrow. Maybe three times a charm finally over good ol' Wandy...

Ron Madden
09-28-2010, 03:30 AM
I want so much for the Reds to defeat Houston tonight I can hardly stand the anticipation.

I'm a 56 year old man but once again I feel like a child on Christmas Eve.
I don't expect the Astros to take a dive and just lay down. I'm not requesting Edinson Volquez to hurl a Perfect Game. All I want is for the Reds to score at least one more run than the Astros. :pray:

Screwball
09-28-2010, 09:30 AM
With the Pirates' 101st loss last night, they now have a 5 game "lead" over Seattle for the 1st overall pick in next year's draft. And with just 6 games remaining - all of which are on the road - it looks like they have it all but locked up. We'll see if they can follow the Rays and be so bad for so long that their accumulation of premium draft picks leaves them with ultra-talented Major League players.

I'm not holding my breath.

_Sir_Charles_
09-28-2010, 09:36 AM
I want so much for the Reds to defeat Houston tonight I can hardly stand the anticipation.

I'm a 56 year old man but once again I feel like a child on Christmas Eve.
I don't expect the Astros to take a dive and just lay down. I'm not requesting Edinson Volquez to hurl a Perfect Game. All I want is for the Reds to score at least one more run than the Astros. :pray:

I'd like to see a blow out of the Astros....but then again, a walk-off win would be absolutely thrilling. I'm just not sure my heart could take it.

Redsfan320
09-28-2010, 09:48 AM
I just hope we don't get Cordero'd tonight. If 2 runners get on off of Coco, I call it an "TCO" or "Typical Cordero Outing". :D

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_Sir_Charles_
09-28-2010, 10:06 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...we NEED Cordero if we want to do well in the playoffs. I hope he gets fairly regular work these last 6 games.

Redsfan320
09-28-2010, 10:10 AM
Absolutely. But it needs to be Good Cordero.

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Sea Ray
09-28-2010, 10:52 AM
The Reds just took 2 of 3 from the Astros and since then Houston is 2-5.

When did the Reds take two of three from them? In their most recent series in Houston the only game we won was the Sat night 11-1 game that Arroyo pitched.

_Sir_Charles_
09-28-2010, 10:55 AM
When did the Reds take two of three from them? In their most recent series in Houston the only game we won was the Sat night 11-1 game that Arroyo pitched.

Yes, but it was such a good game, it counted twice. One of the most enjoyable games I'd been to in a LONG time.

Sea Ray
09-28-2010, 10:58 AM
Yes, but it was such a good game, it counted twice. One of the most enjoyable games I'd been to in a LONG time.

If it counted twice then I guess our magic number is zero. Cool! Where's the champagne?

HeatherC1212
09-28-2010, 12:03 PM
When did the Reds take two of three from them? In their most recent series in Houston the only game we won was the Sat night 11-1 game that Arroyo pitched.

They took two of three the time before the last time they played them (was that back in August or was it all the way back in July?!) but yeah, they dropped two of three to them in their most recent series in Houston. Hopefully they forget all about that and come out ready to kick some behind tonight. :thumbup:

Sea Ray
09-28-2010, 02:12 PM
They took two of three the time before the last time they played them (was that back in August or was it all the way back in July?!) but yeah, they dropped two of three to them in their most recent series in Houston. Hopefully they forget all about that and come out ready to kick some behind tonight. :thumbup:

It was July...a long, long time ago. In fact we beat Oswalt in one of those games

vaticanplum
09-28-2010, 10:40 PM
Pirates beat the Cardinals for the first time in St. Louis all year. The rally onion is pleased. No one else cares, thank god.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 10:49 PM
Arizona opens up a 1-0 lead in the 2nd inning in San Francisco

Chip R
09-28-2010, 10:57 PM
I don't know when this happened but the Cardinals have been eliminated from the Wild Card. :D

reds44
09-28-2010, 10:58 PM
So somebody explain to me what I need to be rooting for so we get a home playoff series, please?

bucksfan2
09-28-2010, 10:59 PM
So somebody explain to me what I need to be rooting for so we get a home playoff series, please?

For whoever plays Atlanta.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 10:59 PM
So somebody explain to me what I need to be rooting for so we get a home playoff series, please?

Giants & Padres to keep losing!

edabbs44
09-28-2010, 11:00 PM
2-nil Zona. KJohn bomb to RF.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:11 PM
San Fran adds a run, cutting the lead to 2-1. Cubs go ahead 1-0 in San Diego.

The Operator
09-28-2010, 11:14 PM
Aaron Miles pitched a scoreless inning tonight for The Cards.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:18 PM
2-0 Cubs in the 5th.

2-1 D'Backs in the 4th.

Unassisted
09-28-2010, 11:21 PM
Pirates beat the Cards 7-2. Good thing the Reds won if they didn't want to back into the championship. :)

dougdirt
09-28-2010, 11:23 PM
Who cares about the September scoreboard? Not me.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:26 PM
Who cares about the September scoreboard? Not me.

Why? I'm all for celebrating, but now the scoreboard really matters because it's all about the postseason.

Don't tell me you wouldn't love to have that opening playoff game in Cincinnati.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:27 PM
Simultaneously, Juan Uribe homered for the Giants and Nick Hundley homered for the Padres. Both games are 2-2.

dougdirt
09-28-2010, 11:33 PM
Why? I'm all for celebrating, but now the scoreboard really matters because it's all about the postseason.

Don't tell me you wouldn't love to have that opening playoff game in Cincinnati.

I don't care where we play. Just win.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:45 PM
I don't care where we play. Just win.

Yes and no. In the end, winning is all that matters. But playing at home those first few games increase your chances of winning.

Brutus
09-28-2010, 11:46 PM
Cubs lead the dads 4-2 in the 6th.

Diamondbacks & Giants still tied 2-2 in the 5th.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 12:05 AM
The Cubs have done a nice little job of helping us out this year.

We might just owe them a case of beer. Not great beer, mind you. But I digress.

I've suspended my Cubs hatred until Opening Day 2011.

paintmered
09-29-2010, 12:07 AM
We might just owe them a case of beer. Not great beer, mind you. But I digress.

http://assets.bizjournals.com/story_image/99499-0-0-2.jpg

The Operator
09-29-2010, 12:08 AM
Ha! I've had Burger a few times, believe it or not... Not the worst beer I've ever had, by any means. But I'm no aficionado.

paintmered
09-29-2010, 12:09 AM
Ha! I've had Burger a few times, believe it or not... Not the worst beer I've ever had, by any means. But I'm no aficionado.

But it's a Cincinnati beer, and therefore much better than that Old Style stuff.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 12:15 AM
But it's a Cincinnati beer, and therefore much better than that Old Style stuff.I kinda thought it was local. I've only ever seen it at Kroger locations, they tend to have a really decent selection of beers for a chain store.

Tony Cloninger
09-29-2010, 12:26 AM
I want the Pads to win so the Reds can play them. So this does not help at all...unless they get ATL

The Operator
09-29-2010, 12:28 AM
I'm kinda hoping we draw ATL in the first round.

That first two game series was weird. Then, we took 2/3 against them in the second series we played them. The Reds can handle them.

Sea Ray
09-29-2010, 12:37 AM
Pirates beat the Cards 7-2. Good thing the Reds won if they didn't want to back into the championship. :)

I heard Lance McAlister say in the pregame show on WLW that Jay Bruce was telling him that he wanted St Louis to lose on Monday so the Reds could get ready for the playoffs.

I bet he's changed his mind now...:)

Brutus
09-29-2010, 12:38 AM
Cubbies lead 5-2 through 8 innings.

Diamondbacks trail 4-2 in the 8th, but have runners at the corners with one out.

Brutus
09-29-2010, 01:04 AM
Padres lose, Giants win.

The Giants would need to lose twice more, if the Reds won out, for Cincinnati to grab the No. 2 seed. Therefore, unless the Diamondbacks can come up with some surprise wins the next few days, the hope here is that the Padres lose once or twice the next few days then sweep the Giants.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 01:34 AM
Looks like The Rockies were officially eliminated tonight.

camisadelgolf
09-29-2010, 11:59 AM
Although Burger is one of the worst-tasting beers I've ever had, it's also my second favorite kind--cheap. Free would be my favorite, though.

membengal
09-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Cardinals up 1-0 on Pirates middle of 5 so Reds need to...oh, wait.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 10:22 PM
Lincecum served up a leadoff shot to Stephen Drew.

1-0 DBacks

Brutus
09-29-2010, 10:39 PM
Ian Kennedy escapes the first without giving the Giants a run. I suppose Kennedy is the D'Backs' pitcher best equipped to beat Lincecum (although Hudson has been giving him a run for the money too).

OnBaseMachine
09-29-2010, 10:40 PM
The Reds will probably have to win out to have a chance at securing the No. 2 seed. Tonight's loss certainly didn't help, but you know what? I'm going to sit back and enjoy this regardless of what seed the Reds end up with. I'm still excited about last night. I love this team.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 11:05 PM
Just going by the box score, Lincecum isn't that good tonight.

But the DBacks still only have 1 run.

Brutus
09-29-2010, 11:32 PM
3-run dinger for Pat Burrell. 3-1 Giants in the 4th.

OnBaseMachine
09-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Pat Burrell 3-run HR. Giants lead the DBacks 3-1 in the 4th inning.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 11:50 PM
I hate that Giants team. They really, really rubbed me the wrong way in the most recent series. And it's not the fact we lost 2/3 to them. It's something about their demeanor.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 11:51 PM
Padres lead Baby Bears 3-0.

Is that good or bad, I can't remember. :p:

The Operator
09-30-2010, 12:42 AM
Padres won 3-0.

The Operator
09-30-2010, 12:51 AM
Brian Wilson made it interesting but SF hung on to win 3-1.

Looks like we're getting Philly.

thatcoolguy_22
09-30-2010, 01:07 AM
Why? I'm all for celebrating, but now the scoreboard really matters because it's all about the postseason.

Don't tell me you wouldn't love to have that opening playoff game in Cincinnati.

Since it has been noted previously that homefield advantage means nothing... I hope we get games 3 and 4 in Cinci, I have leave scheduled for 5 days so I can go to at least 2 games. Unless we play Atlanta I will only be able to drive to Cinci, otherwise I will have to fly. My savings account hates the Reds :D


Brian Wilson made it interesting but SF hung on to win 3-1.

Looks like we're getting Philly.

I'm fine with this. I think we can match up well. Also the cooler weather could help keep the ball in the yard for both sides. Wood should get at least 1 start against them. I hate Oswalt and hope the Reds hang 12 on him in the first.

Ron Madden
09-30-2010, 02:33 AM
The Reds will probably have to win out to have a chance at securing the No. 2 seed. Tonight's loss certainly didn't help, but you know what? I'm going to sit back and enjoy this regardless of what seed the Reds end up with. I'm still excited about last night. I love this team.

'ATTA BOY! :thumbup:

Brutus
09-30-2010, 02:35 AM
Since it has been noted previously that homefield advantage means nothing... I hope we get games 3 and 4 in Cinci, I have leave scheduled for 5 days so I can go to at least 2 games. Unless we play Atlanta I will only be able to drive to Cinci, otherwise I will have to fly. My savings account hates the Reds :D



I'm fine with this. I think we can match up well. Also the cooler weather could help keep the ball in the yard for both sides. Wood should get at least 1 start against them. I hate Oswalt and hope the Reds hang 12 on him in the first.

When did homefield advantage become meaningless? The home team wins 60% of the time. I'd rather take my chances having an extra game at home than on the road especially if we're talking the difference between playing Philadelphia and playing Atlanta or San Diego.

Ron Madden
09-30-2010, 02:41 AM
I read somewhere that the home team has won 24 of the last 48 post season series'.

Brutus
09-30-2010, 03:00 AM
I read somewhere that the home team has won 24 of the last 48 post season series'.

Well, I hope that's accurate. I have not heard that, but if that's the case, it's encouraging.

I do think playing the Phillies in a 5-game series is better than playing them in a 7-game series.

The Operator
09-30-2010, 03:34 AM
I do think playing the Phillies in a 5-game series is better than playing them in a 7-game series.
Agreed. It'd be much easier to catch them napping, possibly looking onto the next round - in a 5 game series.

I'd rather not play them at all, but if they do - this might be our best chance.

thatcoolguy_22
09-30-2010, 03:45 AM
Agreed. It'd be much easier to catch them napping, possibly looking onto the next round - in a 5 game series.

I'd rather not play them at all, but if they do - this might be our best chance.

However in a 7 game series you will likely get 1 game not against the big 3. 5 game set you will have to beat Halladay and Oswalt at least once.

The Operator
09-30-2010, 03:48 AM
However in a 7 game series you will likely get 1 game not against the big 3. 5 game set you will have to beat Halladay and Oswalt at least once.
That's true.

I still think they can be beaten though. The trio of Hudson/Mulder/Zito was supposed to plow through the playoffs and win the World Series back at the beginning of the decade, and I can't remember for sure but I don't think they ever made it past the first round. Maybe once.

One other item of note: Roy Halladay has no playoff experience. None. Obviously that doesn't mean a whole lot, because he's Roy Halladay, but it's something to consider.

Sea Ray
09-30-2010, 10:20 AM
I'm thrilled the Reds have made the playoffs and I don't expect them to win any series, regardless of who they play.

Let's be careful not to make too much of the Philly rotation. In the post season the bullpen is every bit as important as the starting rotation, maybe more so. Just look at the last three Reds Championships. On all three teams the bullpen was the strength of the team. In 1990 the Pirates and the A's had superior starting pitchers to the Reds but we blew them away from the 6th, 7th inning on. The key to beating the Phillies is to hang close early and then make hay vs the bullpen

OesterPoster
09-30-2010, 11:10 AM
I don't quite get the consternation about Philly. If I remember correctly, the Reds played them tougher during the regular season than San Fran. That's the team whose pitching could be lights out when they're "on" more so than Philly, IMO. Going into a series with Philly as the massive underdog won't necessarily be a bad thing either.

membengal
09-30-2010, 11:33 AM
I don't quite get the consternation about Philly. If I remember correctly, the Reds played them tougher during the regular season than San Fran. That's the team whose pitching could be lights out when they're "on" more so than Philly, IMO. Going into a series with Philly as the massive underdog won't necessarily be a bad thing either.

I don't think noting the Phillies are a brutal match-up is confusing. They added Oswalt to Halladay and Hamels. They are healthy now, with Utley back at full go. They've been here before with a recent world title. They are going to be the prohibitive favorites.

That said, I still like the Reds' chances to give them a nasty series. And maybe win.

Reds Fanatic
09-30-2010, 09:49 PM
Padres just lost again to the Cubs. That means the entire NL playoff picture may be finalized tomorrow night.

The Giants magic number to win the west is down to 1.
The Braves magic number to win the wild card is down to 2.

The Reds only hope for a 2nd seed they would have to sweep the Brewers and the Padres would have to sweep the Giants. So there is a very good chance we may know the NL matchups by the end of tomorrow's games.

Brutus
09-30-2010, 10:04 PM
So it's pretty simple: the Padres have to sweep the Giants to make the playoffs which would also get the Reds the No. 2 spot and host the Braves (most likely).

So GOOOOOO Padres!

Boss-Hog
09-30-2010, 10:23 PM
So it's pretty simple: the Padres have to sweep the Giants to make the playoffs which would also get the Reds the No. 2 spot and host the Braves (most likely).

So GOOOOOO Padres!
Not necessarily - I believe they could force a one game playoff for the NL wildcard with the Braves if they win two of three against the Giants and the Braves get swept by the Phillies.

Chip R
09-30-2010, 10:57 PM
Now someone on ESPN radio last night said that if the Yankees and Rays tie at the end of the season, they will have a playoff for the division championship. I think he was mistaken since both teams clinched playoff spots it would go to the team who had the best head to head record against the other.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/division_ties.shtml

blumj
09-30-2010, 11:10 PM
Now someone on ESPN radio last night said that if the Yankees and Rays tie at the end of the season, they will have a playoff for the division championship. I think he was mistaken since both teams clinched playoff spots it would go to the team who had the best head to head record against the other.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/division_ties.shtml

You're right, and the Rays won the season series so they'd win the AL East and the Yankees would get the WC.

vaticanplum
10-01-2010, 12:21 AM
Now someone on ESPN radio last night said that if the Yankees and Rays tie at the end of the season, they will have a playoff for the division championship.

Wow. People are dumb.

Is it weird that I'm excited for the Padres/Giants matchup this weekend? End-of-season baseball is the awesomest.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2010, 12:32 AM
Wow. People are dumb.

Is it weird that I'm excited for the Padres/Giants matchup this weekend? End-of-season baseball is the awesomest.

October baseball is better. :)

Chip R
10-01-2010, 01:01 AM
Wow. People are dumb.

Consider the source.


Is it weird that I'm excited for the Padres/Giants matchup this weekend? End-of-season baseball is the awesomest.

Not at all. I enjoy that too. The atmosphere is very special. Even the games where your team's out of it are bittersweet.

I get geeked up for the 1 game playoffs too no matter who is playing.

The Operator
10-01-2010, 03:36 AM
I get geeked up for the 1 game playoffs too no matter who is playing.You bite the heads off of chickens? :eek:

traderumor
10-01-2010, 01:16 PM
Looking at the pitching matchups, the Padres have a real shot if they can get by Cain tonight. The biggest question in this series is if anyone will score over the weekend. Regardless, I'm excited to stay up late and watch that one tonight.

Now, if the Braves lose 2 of 3 against a Phillies team that has clinched is another question to create the 3 way tie.

Also, the Reds sweeping after clinching to get to 92 wins will be another stretch.

Chip R
10-01-2010, 02:06 PM
Looking at the pitching matchups, the Padres have a real shot if they can get by Cain tonight. The biggest question in this series is if anyone will score over the weekend. Regardless, I'm excited to stay up late and watch that one tonight.


Padres can't score in a brothel with a fistful of fifties.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2010, 03:15 PM
I'm looking forward to this weekend of baseball. I'm going to watch our Reds at 7:00 while keeping an eye on the Braves/Phillies series then I'm going to watch the Giants/Padres after the Reds game ends. Hopefully the Padres can win game one and keep their hopes alive for another day.

reds44
10-01-2010, 03:16 PM
It's go Phillies and Padres all weekend, correct?

Redsfan320
10-01-2010, 03:17 PM
It's go Phillies and Padres all weekend, correct?

Yessir.

320

Brutus
10-01-2010, 05:09 PM
It's go Phillies and Padres all weekend, correct?

If the Reds and Padres both sweep, I believe it doesn't matter what the Phillies do. The Reds would inch into the 2-spot and host those first two games.

The Phillies winning against Atlanta is just a fail safe to avoid Philadelphia, potentially.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2010, 07:12 PM
This doesn't deserve a thread of its own so I'll just post it in here. This is hilarious - Erick Aybar swings at a pitch that narrowly missed hitting him a bad spot:

http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12627181

reds44
10-01-2010, 11:09 PM
4-0 Padres over the Giants.

We're going to be on the road, but we can avoid the Phillies if the Padres (or Giants) win the Wild Card.

A win tonight would bring the Padres within a game of the Braves.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Hopes for avoiding the Phillies are not completely dead yet. Padres are up 4-0 on the Giants in the 3rd and the Phillies are up 11-5 on the Braves in the bottom of the 9th.

reds44
10-01-2010, 11:22 PM
Stairs goes yard.

5-0.

HokieRed
10-01-2010, 11:24 PM
4-0 Padres over the Giants.

We're going to be on the road, but we can avoid the Phillies if the Padres (or Giants) win the Wild Card.

A win tonight would bring the Padres within a game of the Braves.

What we'd need, then, is a SD sweep and the Braves to get swept, or even win only one of three. Is that right?

reds44
10-01-2010, 11:26 PM
What we'd need, then, is a SD sweep and the Braves to get swept, or even win only one of three. Is that right?
If the Padres sweep and Braves get swept, Padres win the Wild Card.
If the Padres sweep and the Braves lose 2 of 3, there would be a playoff.
Same goes for if the Braves get swept and the Padres win 2 of 3.

An interesting thing could happen if the Padres sweep and the Braves lose 2 of 3. The Padres/Braves/Giants would all be tied.

HokieRed
10-01-2010, 11:31 PM
If the Padres sweep and Braves get swept, Padres win the Wild Card.
If the Padres sweep and the Braves lose 2 of 3, there would be a playoff.
Same goes for if the Braves get swept and the Padres win 2 of 3.

An interesting thing could happen if the Padres sweep and the Braves lose 2 of 3. The Padres/Braves/Giants would all be tied.

Yeah, I asked about that on another thread earlier today. All 3 clubs could end 91-71. Apparently there would first be a playoff for the West crown, then one for the WC.

Phhhl
10-01-2010, 11:32 PM
Might as well just focus on the Phillies, and maybe even pull for it at this point. The travel schedule alone would be brutal if the Reds have to go back and forth to Frisco or San Diego twice in one week. It might be unsatisfying to some to get bounced without winning at least one playoff series. But, if you are REALLY talking about going as deep as possible the Reds are probably going to have to play the Phils at some point. Best to have them in a short series, as has been noted by many, than the NLCS.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Actually if the Padres sweep and the Braves get swept the Padres would win the division and the Giants would be the wildcard.

Phhhl
10-01-2010, 11:36 PM
One thing is for certain. The Reds stand to gain absolutely nothing by winning a single additional regular season ballgame this year. It really doesn't matter who Dusty rolls out there the next two days.

OnBaseMachine
10-01-2010, 11:45 PM
The Padres have to be kicking themselves over losing three of four at home to the Cubs this week. If they had just split that series they would be in pretty decent shape right now.

Brutus
10-02-2010, 12:10 AM
Actually if the Padres sweep and the Braves get swept the Padres would win the division and the Giants would be the wildcard.

What if the Padres win the last two and the Braves win one and lose one. Does that mean the multiple one-game playoff scenario that was discussed?

The Operator
10-02-2010, 12:38 AM
The Padres have let The Giants right back into the game.

6-4 Padres in the 7th.

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 01:09 AM
Brutal night defensively for Adrian Gonzalez. Two botched plays in the 8th inning so far. Giants trail, 6-4, in the 8th but have runners on first and second with two outs. Heath Bell is coming in for the four out save.

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 01:12 AM
Bell gets Torres to ground out to Gonzalez to end the inning. 6-4 Padres heading to the 9th inning.

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 01:33 AM
Freddy Sanchez leads off the bottom of the 9th with a walk. Aubrey Huff flies out to the wall in RF and Sanchez gets doubled off first base. Dumb baserunning there.

Posey grounds out to Tejada.

Padres beat the Giants, 6-4, to pull within two games of the Giants with two games remaining. Padres are now a game back of Braves in the wild card.

The Operator
10-02-2010, 01:34 AM
This is one exciting last weekend of baseball, even without the implications these games have on The Reds.

reds44
10-02-2010, 01:36 AM
That was one of the dumbest baserunning plays you'll ever see by Freddy Sanchez.

Works for me, though.

Tony Cloninger
10-02-2010, 01:54 AM
Watching the Rays and Twins play this last week....I mean are they even trying here? You both have a chance to have the best record and it's like they have reverted to their loser type days. How the Rays even scored the 3rd most runs in the AL is baffling. They have some really terrible hitters.

The only team that seems to be playing like it knows how important this is .....would be the Phillies. Just baffling to watch really.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 10:22 AM
What if the Padres win the last two and the Braves win one and lose one. Does that mean the multiple one-game playoff scenario that was discussed?

Yes if that happens then we have the 3 way tie and the multiple one-game playoffs.

The best scenario for the Reds would be 2 Padres wins and 2 Braves losses. That would put the Reds against the Padres and the Giants would face the Phillies.

mth123
10-02-2010, 10:51 AM
Yes if that happens then we have the 3 way tie and the multiple one-game playoffs.

The best scenario for the Reds would be 2 Padres wins and 2 Braves losses. That would put the Reds against the Padres and the Giants would face the Phillies.

Yep and with Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Zito the Giants could match-up with Philly on the mound. That scenario would be the most likely path for Reds success. I think the Reds could take the Padres and they have a lot better chance against SF than they do against Philly IMO.

The Braves losing out is the first thing to root for.

WebScorpion
10-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Yes if that happens then we have the 3 way tie and the multiple one-game playoffs.

The best scenario for the Reds would be 2 Padres wins and 2 Braves losses. That would put the Reds against the Padres and the Giants would face the Phillies.
I'm not convinced that's the best scenario for the Reds...even if we win out, we end up going to San Diego for the beginning of that series since we're 2-4 against them this season. I know we're 2-5 against Philly, but for some reason I feel like we have a better chance against them. Maybe it's the fact that our offense got 13 hits and 4 runs off Halladay already...they should have a little confidence going in. :D

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Padres lead the Giants 2-0 in the first inning and the Padres still have the bases loaded with two outs.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 04:55 PM
3-0 Padres in the 3rd as they score on a Sandoval throwing error.

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Padres just scored another run on an error. 3-0 in the third inning.

OnBaseMachine
10-02-2010, 05:11 PM
4-0 Padres after 3 1/2.

Brutus
10-02-2010, 05:11 PM
If only the Reds had been able to win just one or two more games this past week, they'd be looking to host the first few games of the playoffs. It kind of feels like San Diego will win today and tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Now 4-0 Padres in the 4th.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:12 PM
4-1 Padres in the bottom of the 7th. Philies and Braves still scoreless in the 6th.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Phillies now up 1-0 on the Braves in the 7th and have runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Now 2-0 Phillies and they are still batting in the 7th.

Brutus
10-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Now 2-0 Phillies and they are still batting in the 7th.

Shaping up to be an interesting day tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:29 PM
3-0 Phillies.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:37 PM
4-0 Phillies and they are still batting in the 7th.

Tony Cloninger
10-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Those 2 games vs ATL and Philly......did make a difference after all this year, didn't they?

Brutus
10-02-2010, 06:52 PM
Those 2 games vs ATL and Philly......did make a difference after all this year, didn't they?

As did the other 69 losses this season :0

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Giants just scored in the bottom of the 9th. 4-2 Padres. Giants have runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and the winning run at the plate.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Padres end it on a DP. They win 4-2 and are only a game back of the Giants now.

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 07:00 PM
5-0 Phillies in the 8th.

Tony Cloninger
10-02-2010, 07:10 PM
As did the other 69 losses this season :0


Touche'

Kc61
10-02-2010, 07:16 PM
Assuming the Phils win over the Braves today, I think this is how it works.

If Giants and Braves win tomorrow, Reds play Philly. Braves would be wild card.

If Giants win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants win the West. The wildcard then would be the winner of a playoff between the Padres and Braves in Atl. If Braves win that game, Reds play Philly. If Pads win that game, Reds play Giants.

If Pads win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants and Pads make the playoffs and the Braves are out. The Pads would win the NL West due to tiebraker with Giants. Reds would then play the Padres in the playoffs. Phils would play the wildcard Giants.

If Pads and Braves both win tomorrow, then it is a three-way tie. The Pads and Giants would playoff Monday for the NL West title. The loser would play in Atlanta Tuesday for the wildcard. If the Braves win the wildcard, Reds play Philly. If the Pads win the wildcard Reds play Giants. If the Giants win the wildcard, Reds play Padres.

Right?

mth123
10-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Looking now like a best case scenario would be Padres win tomorrow and Braves lose. Giants throw Lincecum and win a 1 game play-off on Monday. The Reds go to San Fran w/o Lincecum available and eek out a split and come home tied 1-1.

If you are the Giants, would you throw Lincecum in a one game play-off to get home field and avoid the Phils or would you throw a lesser light and keep the rotation lined-up for the post season?

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Assuming the Phils win over the Braves today, I think this is how it works.

If Giants and Braves win tomorrow, Reds play Philly. Braves would be wild card.

If Giants win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants win the West. The wildcard then would be the winner of a playoff between the Padres and Braves in Atl. If Braves win that game, Reds play Philly. If Pads win that game, Reds play Giants.

If Pads win tomorrow and Braves lose, then the Giants and Pads make the playoffs and the Braves are out. The Pads would win the NL West due to tiebraker with Giants. Reds would then play the Padres in the playoffs. Phils would play the wildcard Giants.

If Pads and Braves both win tomorrow, then it is a three-way tie. The Pads and Giants would playoff Monday for the NL West title. The loser would play in Atlanta Tuesday for the wildcard. If the Braves win the wildcard, Reds play Philly. If the Pads win the wildcard Reds play Giants. If the Giants win the wildcard, Reds play Padres.

Right?

yes that is exactly correct

Reds Fanatic
10-02-2010, 07:25 PM
Looking now like a best case scenario would be Padres win tomorrow and Braves lose. Giants throw Lincecum and win a 1 game play-off on Monday. The Reds go to San Fran w/o Lincecum available and eek out a split and come home tied 1-1.

If you are the Giants, would you throw Lincecum in a one game play-off to get home field and avoid the Phils or would you throw a lesser light and keep the rotation lined-up for the post season?

If the Padres win and Braves lose there is no one game playoff. In that case the Padres would win the division because of their head to head record against the Giants and the Giants would be the wild card.

mth123
10-02-2010, 07:29 PM
If the Padres win and Braves lose there is no one game playoff. In that case the Padres would win the division because of their head to head record against the Giants and the Giants would be the wild card.

Yeah I see that now. Baseball used to break ties with a game on the field. Better days.

GullyFoyle
10-02-2010, 07:32 PM
I wonder if Philly considers throwing the game (on Sunday) on the chance that the Padres win ...

The wild card team they would then play on Wednesday, would have to play Tuesday and maybe Monday too.

Edit: I guess this is only true depending on who wins the Tuesday game.

PuffyPig
10-02-2010, 07:42 PM
Yeah I see that now. Baseball used to break ties with a game on the field. Better days.

Ties are only broken when it involves deciding if you make the playoffs or not.

If two teams are tied and they both will make the playoffs anyway, then the tie breaker is used.

Tornon
10-02-2010, 08:28 PM
I wonder if Philly considers throwing the game (on Sunday) on the chance that the Padres win ...

The wild card team they would then play on Wednesday, would have to play Tuesday and maybe Monday too.

Edit: I guess this is only true depending on who wins the Tuesday game.

Charlie Manuel doesn't seem like the type of manager that'd even consider something like that

Reds Fanatic
10-03-2010, 02:27 PM
2-1 Phils after 3. Oswalt now pitching for Philly

Reds Fanatic
10-03-2010, 02:39 PM
Phils and Braves now tied 2-2. Phils on their 3rd pitcher in 4 innings

Reds Fanatic
10-03-2010, 02:41 PM
Now 5-2 Braves bottom 4th

OnBaseMachine
10-03-2010, 02:48 PM
Go Padres! I'm rooting for those one game playoffs.

Reds Fanatic
10-03-2010, 03:00 PM
Now 6-2 Braves as Lee homers

oneupper
10-03-2010, 03:15 PM
Come to think of it, what incentive do the Phillies have for winning this game?

NJReds
10-03-2010, 03:18 PM
Go Padres! I'm rooting for those one game playoffs.

If the Braves win and the Pads win, won't there be two playoffs - one for the NL West and one for the Wildcard?