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Kingspoint
09-08-2010, 11:52 PM
It appears that the REDS have hit a wall.

With the Cardinals completely imploding, the REDS have been given a huge lead that's allowed them to relax.

It's only a 4-game losing streak, but it's how they've lost. They haven't been in any of them, except maybe the Harang start where they had a 4-run lead and then proceeded to leave 11 men on base from the 4th through 7th innings. They couldn't come up with the big hit.

They've temporarily lost their edge.

They're tired, and it shows.

Something they haven't done once all season is go an entire rotation and lose all 5 starts. They haven't lost 5 in a row once this year.

Their strength has been their starting pitching and their resilience. They've come back so many times and their Starters have come up big so often this year that's it's expected.

Tomorrow afternoon will be a big game to see if they can do it one more time.

I'm leaning that they do it yet, once more.

texasdave
09-09-2010, 12:24 AM
Thank you, Milwaukee. Can we worry yet? Just checking. Don't wanna upset anyone needlessly.

BAKER12
09-09-2010, 12:40 AM
It would be nice to WIN the division rather than having St. Louise lose it. Cardinals obviously have issue that are not baseball related. Reds are in a slump, Cardinals are imploding. LaRussa will be managing somewhere else next year. Hopefully not in Cincy.

Altsciguy
09-09-2010, 09:35 AM
The Reds were on top of the NL before this last weekend, now running into the week, and now they are starting to drop. There was a lot of talk that "the reds can lose these series, after this all losing teams for the rest of the season, the division is as good as locked" etc. etc. The post season tickets went on sale. Add to that that thr Rockies have a much better home record then a road record. (the reds have stayed fairly close to an even split home/away records) I think there is some self fullfilling prophecy going on here. As long as the Cards keep losing there is nothing to worry about. But........Dusty knows!! Dusty I think IS worried. These are the quality of teams we will face in the post season. Maybe the "must win"-ness of the post season will be the change, maybe the some rest, maybe something but it MUST be something. Because this kind of ball will not cut it.
Nothing breeds success like success. So maybe the Reds will get some wins and then the expectation will be to win. Teams/people often live up to or down to expectations. So, if expectations and need were low going into this road trip is is no wonder the Reds have blown it. When they get home that expectation better change and they NEED to WIN the division or else we might as well watch football during the post season.

New York Red
09-09-2010, 11:20 AM
Before this current series, the Reds had won 15 of their last 21 games and had opened up a big division lead in the process. We didn't have the division handed to us - we took it. The Rockies are on fire and have owned the Reds at Coors Field for awhile now, so this series shouldn't a shock. I don't know if the Reds will get back on track today or not, because Colorado looks unbeatable right now, but we'll be fine starting tomorrow. What happened after we got swept at Philly? What happened after the STL sweep? This Reds team hasn't gone on a prolonged losing streak all season. And they won't this time either.

arkimadee
09-09-2010, 11:47 AM
The Rockies are just out of their mind right now. Hopefully we build a big a lead against the pirates and the diamondbacks next and gain more games on the cards so we can rest some of our starters the last two weeks of the season

brm7675
09-09-2010, 11:49 AM
Didn't the 90 team "back" into the division title also? I think they won the title in a rain game when SD beat someone and that gave us the title..

Biff Pocoroba
09-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Any concerns about a tight division race will be a distant memory after the eight game stretch that starts today in Denver.

I'm thinking we find a way to win today and then go back to feasting on inferior teams.

brm7675
09-09-2010, 12:51 PM
Any concerns about a tight division race will be a distant memory after the eight game stretch that starts today in Denver.

I'm thinking we find a way to win today and then go back to feasting on inferior teams.

I would be floored if we won today.

mroby85
09-09-2010, 01:00 PM
I would be floored if we won today.

I would hope we could get 1/4. I wouldn't consider winning today a great achievement or anything.

arkimadee
09-09-2010, 02:02 PM
sometimes i have to slap myself and say we are 6 up.. from my dissapointment and anger from watching these games you would think it was 2008.. one win would cure it though

Red in Atl
09-09-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm not going to freak out over the last four games, because we have proven we can bounce back time and time again this year. Especially after the August we had, best record in baseball.

Here's my real concern: we can't beat anyone who's good. Losing record against every team vying for the playoff's. This is really why this year is the learning year and the next 5 should be fun for Reds fans. We might make the playoffs, but it looks to be a quick 3 and out the way we play against good teams.

Learn boys learn...

brm7675
09-09-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm not going to freak out over the last four games, because we have proven we can bounce back time and time again this year. Especially after the August we had, best record in baseball.

Here's my real concern: we can't beat anyone who's good. Losing record against every team vying for the playoff's. This is really why this year is the learning year and the next 5 should be fun for Reds fans. We might make the playoffs, but it looks to be a quick 3 and out the way we play against good teams.

Learn boys learn...

Well look at this way, last year we had a hard time beating anyone, so it is going to be baby steps. We have not been punked by the real good teams, so there is hope that with time we will improve against them.

mckbearcat48
09-09-2010, 03:21 PM
The statement the Reds make this weekend may be the difference between them and STL. When times got tough for the Reds, they won key games. STL lost.

texasdave
09-09-2010, 07:46 PM
I sincerely hope the Reds did not prove themselves today or this season is in trouble.
Quite frankly the Reds' braintrust has me worried. Expanded rosters and the Reds only have 3 outfielders in a pennant race? That, to me, is a real head scratcher.

ThornWithin81
09-09-2010, 08:15 PM
I don't trust our numbers against potential playoff teams. That series against Philadelphia was gut-wrenching come from behind loss after gut-wrenching come from behind loss. Then you've got the come from behind disaster against Atlanta. Oh, and those numbers include the Cardinals, a team that has simply had our number this year despite not being as good as we are.

I think we have to make strides if we're going to go anywhere in the post-season, but I also don't think we're going to get swept in the NLDS just because our numbers against playoff-direction teams have been weak. The only way that happens is if we buy into the idea that we can't beat those teams, IMO.

Carolina Red
09-09-2010, 10:14 PM
The Reds didn't prove much today. They look like they're trying not to lose instead of trying to win. They look a lot like they did in April. I hope Bruce, Leake, and Ocab come back soon.

MikeThierry
09-10-2010, 12:10 AM
Well the Rockies are playing out of their mind right now and its difficult for a visiting team to play in that park. The Colorado trip was a complete disaster for the Cards as well, losing two games with the lead in the 7th. This includes that 9 run abortion in the 9th inning (thanks Franklin).

You guys play winning ball against the teams you should beat so this little hiccup shouldn't discourage Reds fans. Now if you start losing to the Cubs and Milwaukee, then I would be worried.

Something to note though, do not underestimate the Astros. They have a good young ballclub and have some decent pitching in the starting rotation. They have been playing excellent ball and will be trouble for any team taking them for granted. I think they might actually be a player in the division next year.

Kingspoint
09-11-2010, 12:29 AM
I sincerely hope the Reds did not prove themselves today or this season is in trouble.
Quite frankly the Reds' braintrust has me worried. Expanded rosters and the Reds only have 3 outfielders in a pennant race? That, to me, is a real head scratcher.

They proved themselves tonight.

But, they clearly aren't out of their slump.

We have no Bruce.

Votto's birthday was today and his thoughts are back to his Dad and clearly he's not focused.

Cordero just looked like his old self. Looks like his lack of use got him out of his rhythm.

Arroyo's struggling.

Cueto's struggling.

Harang shouldn't be in the Majors and cost us two games. Someone needs to take over for him, whether that's LeCure, Maloney, Volquez, or a bunch of Relievers.

Phillips is struggling.

Cabrera's back and the Defense at Shortstop won't be good while he's back recovering from an injury.

Gomes is playing in Left Field too much and it's costing the team a lot of runs.

They've just got to find ways to win until they can get through some of the above.