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cinreds21
09-13-2010, 03:02 PM
Reds acquired INF-OF Willie Bloomquist from the Royals for a player to be named later or cash considerations.
Bloomquist is batting .265/.296/.388 with three home runs and 17 RBI in 170 at-bats this season. The 32-year-old will not be eligible for the playoffs, but he's a useful utility man, capable of playing all over the diamond.

-rotoworld

freestyle55
09-13-2010, 03:09 PM
Completely and utterly pointless. We're going to boot someone from the 40 man and not see if any of our future players are worth it???

We're actually trading a live body and/or cash for someone with a CAREER OPS of .653???

cinreds21
09-13-2010, 03:14 PM
I assume they'd just transfer Edmonds or Nix to the 60 instead of removing someone from it.

Captain13
09-13-2010, 03:28 PM
They may release Edmonds, I don't think he will be available to play again. He is as good as retired.

Bloomquist gives the Reds a body that can play defense in 6 of the 8 positions, and run the bases effectively. I don't think this is a bad move, especially if Bruce won't be able to play every day.

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 03:32 PM
Completely and utterly pointless.

True if you like seeing Cairo starting in RF

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 03:35 PM
This could be the end of the line for DRH

davereds24
09-13-2010, 03:35 PM
this is ridiculous, walt is really making a splash since the trade deadline.

texasdave
09-13-2010, 03:41 PM
Doesn't Todd Frazier play both infield and outfield? Walt was working night and day turning over every stone and the result is Willie Bloomquist? The Big Lebowski has a new favorite Red.

cinreds21
09-13-2010, 03:47 PM
No need to put Frazier on the 40 when he's not ready nor eligible for the Rule V next year.

freestyle55
09-13-2010, 03:48 PM
True if you like seeing Cairo starting in RF

How about any of the players in Louisville, now that the Bats are done, they're not busy...he's the definition of not quite replacement level player...any single one of them would be able to fill this role, and wouldn't require a trade...

texasdave
09-13-2010, 03:50 PM
No need to put Frazier on the 40 when he's not ready nor eligible for the Rule V next year.

Yet there is a need to put Willie Bloomquist on it?

cinreds21
09-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Bloomquist will likely be gone next year so that frees up a roster spot, where as if you add Frazier now, that clogs one up.

cinreds21
09-13-2010, 03:54 PM
Del Rosario was DFA to make room for Bloomquist.

GIDP
09-13-2010, 03:58 PM
Absolute joke.

GIDP
09-13-2010, 04:01 PM
They played short for 2 weeks instead of DFAing Del Rosario and going with someone from their farm. Amazing.

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 04:04 PM
How about any of the players in Louisville, now that the Bats are done, they're not busy...he's the definition of not quite replacement level player...any single one of them would be able to fill this role, and wouldn't require a trade...

What outfielders in AAA are on the 40 man roster?

cinreds21
09-13-2010, 04:04 PM
None are

Caveman Techie
09-13-2010, 04:12 PM
This is an insurance move only, if something happens and they need another outfielder they now have him. And they don't have to worry about him clogging a roster spot next year. Actually it was a pretty smart move on Walts part.

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 04:13 PM
The Reds have 4 outfielder in AAA and as cinreds21 said none are on the 40 man.

Wladimir Balentien is hurt and could only DH to end the season

Todd Frazier is a .258 hitter in AAA, Plus he SO 27% of the time in AAA

Sean Henry has only played 4 games in AAA, 121 in AA

Dave Sappelt 25 games in AAA, 89 in AA, 19 in A

Bloomquist has played 7 Positions this season, and you know what you are getting.

texasdave
09-13-2010, 04:17 PM
Bloomquist has played 7 Positions this season, and you know what you are getting.

That is the whole problem. You know what you are getting.

GIDP
09-13-2010, 04:17 PM
Valaika, Janish, and Cairo all do what Bloomquist does and probably better.

bshall2105
09-13-2010, 04:24 PM
I could understand this move two weeks ago, but now it just seems pointless. Two weeks of Bloomquist, and he won't even be playing much doesn't make sense at all.

757690
09-13-2010, 04:28 PM
Valaika, Janish, and Cairo all do what Bloomquist does and probably better.

Not in the outfield.

Bloomquist was acquired to provide veteran defense in the outfield, something that the Reds have lacked for the last two weeks. He also hits lefties well.

I have always liked Willie from his days as a Mariner. He was a fan favorite and very popular with his teammates. Walt loves guys like this for bench roles, and he has had some pretty good success with it over the years.

texasdave
09-13-2010, 04:52 PM
Not in the outfield.

Bloomquist was acquired to provide veteran defense in the outfield, something that the Reds have lacked for the last two weeks. He also hits lefties well.

I have always liked Willie from his days as a Mariner. He was a fan favorite and very popular with his teammates. Walt loves guys like this for bench roles, and he has had some pretty good success with it over the years.

WB has a lifetime .707 OPS against lefties. He doesn't hit them well. He doesn't hit righties well. He probably stinks against ambidextrous pitchers.

Here is the link to his Fangraph fielding numbers. He is well below average defensively at all three outfield positions. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1066&position=OF#fielding

He is a vet though. That is probably the only thing he has going for him.

mattfeet
09-13-2010, 05:06 PM
Hey, let's second guess a front-office that has given us fans a season way better than any of us could have asked for this year. Get off your high horse, this is a depth move that is for the temporary only. Im fine with it. Why risk Leake/Cairo out there if we dont have to?

-Matt

757690
09-13-2010, 05:09 PM
WB has a lifetime .707 OPS against lefties. He doesn't hit them well. He doesn't hit righties well. He probably stinks against ambidextrous pitchers.

Here is the link to his Fangraph fielding numbers. He is well below average defensively at all three outfield positions. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1066&position=OF#fielding

He is a vet though. That is probably the only thing he has going for him.

He's hitting lefties well this year, over .800 OPS, whatever that's worth.

Anyway, Bloomquist is the very definition of a replacement level player statistically, and the Reds lacked that recently in the OF. They had no one, and had no one who could play outfield defense in the minors. They needed someone to fill a hole for three weeks, and they got a replacement level player (at least) to do it.

People were crying for the Reds to get anyone, just a warm body, to back up the outfield, and now that they got one, they are complaining.

If the Reds could have acquired Ryan Braun, they would have, but it seems like the best available player was Bloomquist, so they took what they could get.

New York Red
09-13-2010, 05:25 PM
This move isn't gonna blow anyone's socks off, but it isn't meant to. Bloomquist is a veteran with the reputation of being a good teammate. He'll come in handy for late inning double switches for defensive reasons, as well as giving other guys (Rolen, Gomes, Bruce, Phillips, etc) an occasional day off down the stretch. Not a great move by Jocketty, but not a horrible move either.

freestyle55
09-13-2010, 05:36 PM
Hey, let's second guess a front-office that has given us fans a season way better than any of us could have asked for this year. Get off your high horse, this is a depth move that is for the temporary only. Im fine with it. Why risk Leake/Cairo out there if we dont have to?

-Matt

No one asked the Reds to throw Leake/Cairo in the outfield, just to call up one of the AAA outfielders if we're really going to DFA someone. I would trust the guy w/ 4 AB in AAA over this washed up never was...

I mean serious, what one thing is he good at, other than being able to walk out to different spots on the field?

Oh, and just because they've gotten some things right doesn't mean the FO is unassailable...how about playing with 3 OF for 2 weeks...doesn't seem like was such a great idea since none of them are hitting...

GIDP
09-13-2010, 06:13 PM
Waiting 13 days to DFA a guy and bring in Bloomquist is silly to me. Easily could have solved this problem 13 days ago and brought in a better hitter, and just as versatile of a player in Frazier.

rolenmvp
09-13-2010, 06:27 PM
some of you are completely going nuts for no reason, the guy is hitting 288 against lefties, that's a plus, some reds fans will never been satisfied, it's all about them or nothing, just be glad walt made a move, you all rag and rag about him making a move and he adds a scrappy veteran a guy who could really help us and you jump him first move you make.

amazing at some of you.

GIDP
09-13-2010, 06:29 PM
its 73 ABs.

rolenmvp
09-13-2010, 06:31 PM
not to mention he is batting 329 since the beginning of august, that is a good sign.

ILoveWilly
09-13-2010, 07:02 PM
If we wouldn't have traded Dickerson, we wouldn't be in this position. But no. Guess those genius arm chair GMs saying Dickerson was expendable look stupid now, huh?

bshall2105
09-13-2010, 07:08 PM
If we wouldn't have traded Dickerson, we wouldn't be in this position. But no. Guess those genius arm chair GMs saying Dickerson was expendable look stupid now, huh?

Dickerson's leg or arm or head would have fallen off by now if he was still with the Reds.

Caveman Techie
09-13-2010, 07:26 PM
Guys, he is someone the Reds can put on the 40 man roster as a "just in case" for the post season, if someone else gets hurt. After this season he can then be released which opens up a valuable spot on the 40 man roster. If they would have put one of the AAA outfielders on the 40 man roster it would have burned an option for whoever they put on the roster. Thats why this is mainly an insurance policy for the outfield DURING the playoffs.

It's the type of move a small market team has to take in order to protect their young talent.

texasdave
09-13-2010, 07:49 PM
nvm.

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 08:33 PM
Guys, he is someone the Reds can put on the 40 man roster as a "just in case" for the post season, if someone else gets hurt. After this season he can then be released which opens up a valuable spot on the 40 man roster. If they would have put one of the AAA outfielders on the 40 man roster it would have burned an option for whoever they put on the roster. Thats why this is mainly an insurance policy for the outfield DURING the playoffs.

It's the type of move a small market team has to take in order to protect their young talent.

No he is not playoff eligible, any player not already on the Reds payroll on Sept 1st can not play in the playoffs for the Reds

Krawhitham
09-13-2010, 08:37 PM
If we wouldn't have traded Dickerson, we wouldn't be in this position. But no. Guess those genius arm chair GMs saying Dickerson was expendable look stupid now, huh?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=29209

New York Red
09-13-2010, 09:10 PM
If we wouldn't have traded Dickerson, we wouldn't be in this position. But no. Guess those genius arm chair GMs saying Dickerson was expendable look stupid now, huh?
Hindsight.

Vottomatic
09-13-2010, 09:15 PM
104 career stolen bases. Plays OF and 3B, and probably other IF positions...........

Pinch runner? Defensive replacement for Gomes?

Another wacky idea is that management is fully prepared to go with Janish next year at SS, will release OCab after the postseason, and Bloomquist becomes the backup SS. It would save $2 or $3M, whatever OCab is making.

He has played alot of positions in his career, definitely multi-positional.

2009 38 games at SS
2008 and earlier, probably averaged 20 games per season at SS.

Caveman Techie
09-13-2010, 09:56 PM
No he is not playoff eligible, any player not already on the Reds payroll on Sept 1st can not play in the playoffs for the Reds

I could be wrong, but the big loop hole to that rule was if any player was placed on the DL, then anyone on the 40 man roster is eligible for the playoffs whether they were on the team 9/1/10 or not.

BAKER12
09-13-2010, 10:38 PM
Good guy, plays everywhere but catcher and does a really nice job at all spots. Great baserunner and has been hot since Ned Yost started using him a bit more. ESPN hottie Cindy Brunson was his babysitter as a kid.

757690
09-13-2010, 10:43 PM
104 career stolen bases. Plays OF and 3B, and probably other IF positions...........

Pinch runner? Defensive replacement for Gomes?

Another wacky idea is that management is fully prepared to go with Janish next year at SS, will release OCab after the postseason, and Bloomquist becomes the backup SS. It would save $2 or $3M, whatever OCab is making.

He has played alot of positions in his career, definitely multi-positional.

2009 38 games at SS
2008 and earlier, probably averaged 20 games per season at SS.

Bloomquist is free agent after this season. Don't know what he will demand in the offseason, but he made about what Cabrera made this season. But I could see the Reds interested in him in a role similar to Jerry Hairston, if he would sign a minor league contract.

TheBigLebowski
09-13-2010, 11:02 PM
Doesn't Todd Frazier play both infield and outfield? Walt was working night and day turning over every stone and the result is Willie Bloomquist? The Big Lebowski has a new favorite Red.

I was asking for a new sig...

ThornWithin81
09-13-2010, 11:11 PM
Will someone explain to me why we're complaining about this move? He's here to provide some depth down the stretch and hopefully keep our playoff guys fresh into the dance. He can play a ton of positions and run decently well.

I trust Walt and I like the move.

BAKER12
09-13-2010, 11:53 PM
Willie is a better defensive player than Hairston, does not have the occasional power of JHJ but is a better base stealer. In total, similar valuable guys for a good team. I have no clue why anyone is upset about acquiring him. He allows you to carry an extra pitcher because he is so versatile and plays great defense anywhere you put him.

texasdave
09-14-2010, 12:44 AM
He allows you to carry an extra pitcher because he is so versatile and plays great defense anywhere you put him.

It is September. The Reds have plenty of pitchers. Fangraphs has him as a below average fielder at every position but 2b, FWIW.