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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 11:16 AM
Stubbs 8
Cabrera 6
Votto 3
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Hernandez 2
Francisco 5
Janish 4
Volquez 1

Glad BP's out, but why not Valaika? I'll probably do PBP.

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Reds Fanatic
09-16-2010, 11:56 AM
Just a reminder today's game is televised on FSN. It was not not on the original TV schedule but was added later to make up for another game being moved to Fox.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 12:43 PM
Glad BP's out, but why not Valaika? I'll probably do PBP.



Because Janish is likely quite a bit better, as as he's going to be on the post season roster, we need to keep him sharper.

HeatherC1212
09-16-2010, 12:48 PM
Can the Reds please make this one a blowout win so us fans can relax for one day?! :D

WVRedsFan
09-16-2010, 12:55 PM
I'm sure Paul will produce at least as much offense as BP has lately and like PP said, keeping him sharp is important not only for post season, but the stretch run.

I read somewhere today (C Trent?) that if the Reds go 8-8, StL would have to go 17-1 to win the division. Not likely.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 01:12 PM
I'm sure Paul will produce at least as much offense as BP has lately and like PP said, keeping him sharp is important not only for post season, but the stretch run.

I read somewhere today (C Trent?) that if the Reds go 8-8, StL would have to go 17-1 to win the division. Not likely.

That would actually just tie them.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 01:16 PM
Can the Reds please make this one a blowout win so us fans can relax for one day?! :D

I casn remeber 3 recent blowouts on midweek day games for your consideration.

Our game vs. Atlanta where we led 9-3 going into the last inning.

Our game in SF, where we led 10-1.

Our recent games in Colorado where we led 4-0 and 5-0 early.

These blowout games aren't so relaxing after all....;)

Raisor
09-16-2010, 01:35 PM
Once again, I will not be doing pbl today.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:38 PM
We are go
Drew up

8
1 out
Johnson up

1B
Runner on 1st
0 out
Young up

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:38 PM
8
2 out
Runner on 1st
LaRoche up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:39 PM
Drew 6
Johnson 4
Young 8
LaRoche 3
Reynolds 5
Montero 2
Church 7
Parra 9
Lopez 1

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Cedric
09-16-2010, 01:39 PM
Very nice and quick inning for Edinson.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:39 PM
7
3 out
Top of 1st over
Stubbs up

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 01:39 PM
Good easy inning for Volquez. Just a bloop single and not many pitches.


9 pitches in fact.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:42 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
0 out
Cabrera up

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Cedric
09-16-2010, 01:43 PM
Perfect time for hit and run to stay out of possible DP.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:46 PM
SF8
1B->2B/ Stubbs taggin' up!
Runner on 2nd
1 out
Votto up

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 01:50 PM
The Reds break through! 1-0 on a Gomes double.

Cedric
09-16-2010, 01:50 PM
The Reds have had some good luck the last few days.

Raisor
09-16-2010, 01:51 PM
I think Thom wants some alone time with Gomes

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 01:54 PM
19 pitches for Lopez in the 1st. This is a good start to get into that D'Backs bullpen early today.

pedro
09-16-2010, 01:55 PM
I think Thom wants some alone time with Gomes

"Hey Jonny, you ever seen the party room at the Beta House?"

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 01:55 PM
One pitch one out. You gotta like that.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 01:59 PM
Votto flew out, Gomes drove in OC with a double off Young's glove, Bruce K'd looking.

Reynolds, Montero, and Church flied out.
3 out
Top of 2nd over
Hernandez up

1-0, Reds

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:00 PM
Only 8 pitches for Volquez in the 2nd. 17 in total through two.

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:01 PM
Oh how awesome would it be if Volquez got going for the playoffs?

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:04 PM
5-3
1 out
Francisco up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:04 PM
That kid can hit.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:05 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
1 out
Janish up

Yes, reds44, he can.

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:07 PM
DP 6-4-3
DP4 6-4-3 (2)
3 out
Bottom of 2nd over
Parra up

1-0, Reds

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:10 PM
Ks
1 out
Lopez up

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sivman17
09-16-2010, 02:10 PM
Welsh: "Cordero isn't even pitching that badly right now."

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
4-3
2 out
Drew up

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Cedric
09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
Welsh: "Cordero isn't even pitching that badly right now."

And you can't use anyone else out there because you don't know how they will handle the pressure.

How exactly does anyone start closing then? I guess we should expect CoCo out there at age 55 because nobody else knows what it's like.

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
Welsh: "Cordero isn't even pitching that badly right now."

He's not pitching that goodly either. What has Welsh been watching?

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
Is goodly a word? lol

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:12 PM
Is goodly a word? lol

Probably not. Just trying to play off Welsh's words. :)

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:12 PM
I like this Volquez.

KoryMac5
09-16-2010, 02:13 PM
Gomes is awful enough to be second on the team in RBI's

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:13 PM
28 pitches for Volquez, 20 for strikes. I like this.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:14 PM
Ks
3 out
Top of 2nd over
Volquez up

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:15 PM
Ks
3 out
Top of 2nd over
Volquez up

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Third inning, sir.

BRM
09-16-2010, 02:16 PM
Gomes is awful enough to be second on the team in RBI's

Hitting behind Votto and Rolen all year has given him lots of opportunities. And he's done a nice job cashing in on them.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:16 PM
Third inning, sir.

Oops.

6-3
1 out
Stubbs up

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edabbs44
09-16-2010, 02:17 PM
And you can't use anyone else out there because you don't know how they will handle the pressure.

How exactly does anyone start closing then? I guess we should expect CoCo out there at age 55 because nobody else knows what it's like.

Maybe by having them close in April/May and not late Sept? That would be my guess on the philosophy.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:18 PM
9
2 out
Cabrera up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:20 PM
5-3
3 out
Bottom of 3rd over
Johnson up

1-0, Reds

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:22 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
0 out
Young up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:23 PM
WP
1B->2B/ Johnson
Runner on 2nd
Young (still) up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:25 PM
Ks
1 out
Runner on 2nd
LaRoche up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:27 PM
Kc
2 out
Runner on 2nd
Reynolds up

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 02:31 PM
Volquez K's the side after a leadoff single.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:31 PM
Ks
3 out
Top of 4th over
Votto up

1-0, Reds

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:32 PM
If today and last night were auditions for the 4th starting spot in the postseason... dizzy or not...

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backbencher
09-16-2010, 02:32 PM
Striking out Diamondbacks on the road on a getaway day is not the best way to judge a pitcher, but . . . wow. Nice inning.

Chip R
09-16-2010, 02:33 PM
Striking out Diamondbacks on the road on a getaway day is not the best way to judge a pitcher, but . . . wow. Nice inning.

True but he is doing it. He's not walking the ballpark and giving up bombs.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:34 PM
2B
Runner on 2nd
0 out
Gomes up

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Raisor
09-16-2010, 02:34 PM
There's nothing better then hearing Thom and Chris complain about strikeouts for three hours a day.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 02:34 PM
Striking out Diamondbacks on the road on a getaway day is not the best way to judge a pitcher, but . . . wow. Nice inning.

I believe the Reds play in Cincinanti, and, FWIW, Arizona doesn't have a get-a-way lineup in, even their regular catcher is playing.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:35 PM
8
1 out
Runner on 2nd
Bruce up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:36 PM
1B
2B->3B/ Votto
Runners on 1st and 3rd
1 out
Hernandez up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:37 PM
8
2 out
Runners on 1st and 3rd
Francisco up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:37 PM
If today and last night were auditions for the 4th starting spot in the postseason... dizzy or not...

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If Volquez shows anythng down the stretch, he'll be in the rotation. He's the only guy (not including Chapman) on the staff with true ace stuff.

Cedric
09-16-2010, 02:37 PM
Love the guy, horrendous base running this inning from Votto.

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:38 PM
Love the guy, horrendous base running this inning from Votto.
Yep. Cost the Reds a run twice.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:40 PM
Ks
3 out
Bottom of 4th over
Montero up

1-0, Reds

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:42 PM
Volquez's curveball looks so slow compared to his heater.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 02:43 PM
Descriptions of plays are much appreciated for those unable to watch. Thanks to all.

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:43 PM
Volquez walked the leadoff man on 5 pitches.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:43 PM
I can do descriptions to

BB/ walk
Runner on 1st
0 out
Church up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:45 PM
HE DOES IT ALL, FOLKS.

Volquez struggling with his control.

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:46 PM
2 walks on 10 pitches.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 02:46 PM
I just tuned in and Volquez walks 2. Shall I leave?

Cedric
09-16-2010, 02:46 PM
Volquez would have struggled just the same earlier if the Dbacks weren't hacking at everything. Good teams will kill Edinson at this point.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:47 PM
BB/ a 5-pitch walk
1B->2B/ Montero
Runners on 1st and 2nd
0 out
Parra up

Well, Homer Bailey, I'm doin' you stinking descriptions for you, so stick around for a while. ;) Not that there's been much to descirbe. A walk is a walk is a walk.

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:49 PM
2B, RBI/ double down the right field line to tie the game
2B->H, R/ Montero
1B->3B/ Church
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
0 out
Lopez up

SCORE CHANGE: 1-1, tie

1-3/ ground-out to the pitcher, runners hold
1 out
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
Drew up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:52 PM
Come on Joey.

Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 02:52 PM
It's darn near unlistenable to hear Volquez throwing ball after ball...

reds44
09-16-2010, 02:53 PM
Well Volquez died this inning.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:53 PM
1B, RBI/ Votto bobbles it
3B->H, R/ Church
2B->3B/ Parra
1 out
Johnson up

SCORE CHANGE: 2-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:54 PM
1B/ into center
3B->H, R/ Parra
1B->2B/ Drew
Runner on 2nd
1 out
Young up

SCORE CHANGE: 3-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:54 PM
WP
2B->3B/ Drew
1B->2B/ Johnson
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
1 out
Young (still) up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:55 PM
Hernandez got hit in the arm on the WP, but he's okay.

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Cedric
09-16-2010, 02:56 PM
Just thank god the Cardinals have tanked. It takes mini miracles for the Reds to beat the Pirates and Dbacks.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:57 PM
Ks/ He got him on a full count
2 out
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
LaRoche up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 02:58 PM
It's amazing what Volquez does when he actually gets ahead in the count.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 02:59 PM
Ks/ on the change-up again
3 out
Top of 5th over
Janish up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 02:59 PM
Just thank god the Cardinals have tanked. It takes mini miracles for the Reds to beat the Pirates and Dbacks.

I suggest you just enjoy it :thumbup:

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 02:59 PM
320.... how are you not in school?

reds44
09-16-2010, 03:01 PM
Awesome AB from Janish there.

reds44
09-16-2010, 03:01 PM
320.... how are you not in school?
School is overrated.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 03:02 PM
Just thank god the Cardinals have tanked. It takes mini miracles for the Reds to beat the Pirates and Dbacks.


We've beaten the Diamondbacks 5 out of 6 games this year, only losing when Hernandez' bullet was tracked down.

We've beaten the Pirates 10 out of 16 games, and 10 out of the last 13.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:03 PM
Fo5
1 out
Volquez up

1B
Runner on 1st
1 out
Stubbs up

I'm homeschooled. I started early today to make sure I was done in time for the game. :thumbup:

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edabbs44
09-16-2010, 03:03 PM
We've beaten the Diamondbacks 5 out of 6 games this year, only losing when Hernandez' bullet was tracked down.

We've beaten the Pirates 10 out of 16 games, and 10 out of the last 13.

Lots on canonizations will be taking place due to this season.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:06 PM
FC 6-4/ hard to double up Stubbs
FC8 4-6 (2)/ Volquez
2 out
Runner on 1st
Cabrera up

SB 2/ Stubbs
Runner on 2nd
2 out
Cabrera (still) up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:10 PM
Kc/ borderline call
3 out
Bottom of 5th over
Reynolds up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:15 PM
6-3/ nice play by OC to his left
1 out
Montero up

8/ routine for Stubbs
2 out
Church up

5-3/ soft grounder to Cisco
3 out
Top of 6th over
Votto up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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reds44
09-16-2010, 03:16 PM
Anybody we want to start hitting the ball, that'd be okay with me.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 03:16 PM
1-2-3 for Volquez. I believe it went ground out to Cabrera (nice play per radio), fly out to Stubbs, ground out to Francisco (Juan shows off gun, per radio).

reds44
09-16-2010, 03:17 PM
1-2-3 for Volquez. I believe it went ground out to Cabrera (nice play per radio), fly out to Stubbs, ground out to Francisco (Juan shows off gun, per radio).
Yes to all three.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:19 PM
4-3
1 out
Gomes up

1B/ off the 2B's glove
Runner on 1st
1 out
Bruce up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:20 PM
DP 3U/ a rocket that the 1B caught and doubled up Gomes. Bad, bad luck.
DP9 3U (1)/ Gomes
3 out
Bottom of 6th over
Parra up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:23 PM
1B/ to right
Runner on 1st
0 out
Lopez up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:25 PM
SB 2-4
1B->2B/ Parra
1 out
Drew up

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Kc61
09-16-2010, 03:25 PM
Dusty being quite patient with Volquez today.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:26 PM
8/ in left-center field, runner holds
Runner on 2nd
2 out
Johnson up

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Kc61
09-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Dusty's patience is ended as Volquez departs. Bray in.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Volquez done, a lefty coming in, Cowboy making us wait until after commercial to know who.

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Thanks, Kc61. Figured it was Bray.

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 03:27 PM
MLB At Bat says it is Bray.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Bill Bray in, pitching, batting 9th, for Edinson Volquez

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pedro
09-16-2010, 03:28 PM
all in all not a bad start for Volquez.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 03:29 PM
Kelly Johnson hits LHP better than RHP per Cowboy.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 03:31 PM
Bray be nasty lately.

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 03:31 PM
Bray does the job. :thumbup:

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:31 PM
Kc/ on the inside corner!!
3 out
Top of 7th over
Hernandez up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Volquez's final line:

6.2 IP
6 H
3 R
3 ER
2 BB
7 K
0 HR
28 TBF

And I believe 2 wild pitches.

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reds44
09-16-2010, 03:34 PM
Yeah Volquez wasn't the problem today.

reds44
09-16-2010, 03:35 PM
That ball had a ton of comeback on it.

VR
09-16-2010, 03:36 PM
all in all not a bad start for Volquez.

5 2/3 fantastic innings
1 Train wreck inning?

Didn't follow the 1st 4....but that's the perception I get from gameday.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:36 PM
Kc/ Cowboy don't like the call
1 out
Francisco up

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reds44
09-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Edmonds PH.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:40 PM
1B/ into right-center field
Runner on 1st
1 out
Edmonds up, PHing

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:43 PM
9
3 out
Bottom of 7th over
Young up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:45 PM
Logan Ondrusek, pitching, batting 9th, for Jim Edmonds

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mbgrayson
09-16-2010, 03:46 PM
Lopez is only at 85 pitches after pitching 7 innings for the D-Backs.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:46 PM
Bray's final line:

.1 IP
0 H
0 ER
0 R
0 BB
1 K
1 TBF

Ks
1 out
LaRoche up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:47 PM
4-3
2 out
Reynolds up

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VR
09-16-2010, 03:48 PM
Lopez is only at 85 pitches after pitching 7 innings for the D-Backs.

Bad luck for the Reds running into the likes of Wainwright, Carpenter, Johnson and Lopez lately.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:50 PM
9
3 out
Top of 8th over
PHer up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Lopez is only at 85 pitches after pitching 7 innings for the D-Backs.

MLB At Bat has him at 98 pitches. The DBacks are changing pitchers. Heilman in.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Bad luck for the Reds running into the likes of Wainwright, Carpenter, Johnson and Lopez lately.

Make no mistake, Lopez has had decent control, but with a bit better luck and hit distribution, we'd be winning this game.

mbgrayson
09-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Bad luck for the Reds running into the likes of Wainwright, Carpenter, Johnson and Lopez lately.

I don't know if you were kidding or not, but Lopez is hardly in the same category as the other three.

Lopez came into the game today with a 5.13 ERA, a 1.43 WHIP, and a 1.67 HR/9 rate.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Aaron Heilman on to pitch, batting 9th, for Rodrigo Lopez.

Lopez's final line:

7 IP
8 H
1 ER
1 R
0 BB
4 K
27 TBF

Ks
1 out
Cabrera up

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mbgrayson
09-16-2010, 03:53 PM
MLB At Bat has him at 98 pitches. The DBacks are changing pitchers. Heilman in.

You are right. When I looked, the 7th inning must not have been added in yet.

VR
09-16-2010, 03:53 PM
I don't know if you were kidding or not, but Lopez is hardly in the same category as the other three.

Lopez came into the game today with a 5.13 ERA, a 1.43 WHIP, and a 1.67 HR/9 rate.


oh, I think you know.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:55 PM
6-3
2 out
Votto up

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mbgrayson
09-16-2010, 03:57 PM
Anemic.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Jim and the Cowboy absolutely HILARIOUS. Apparently Kelch somehow messed up "the system" cowboy uses for answering trivia questions.

7
3 out
Bottom of 8th over
Montero up

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dsmith421
09-16-2010, 03:58 PM
A 4-3 homestand against AAA teams is not particularly promising. Gotta look farther than just one-upping the reeling Cards at this point.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 03:59 PM
Jared Burton on to pitch, batting 9th, for Ondrusek. Good to see Burton back!

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Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
A 4-3 homestand against AAA teams is not particularly promising. Gotta look farther than just one-upping the reeling Cards at this point.

Phillips hurting. Rolen hurting. Nix/Edmonds obviously hurting. Bruce probably not 100%. Bailey not healthy. 7.5 game lead at worst after this game.

Relax everyone.

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
A 4-3 homestand against AAA teams is not particularly promising. Gotta look farther than just one-upping the reeling Cards at this point.


I didn't know the game was over.

(sigh)

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
Ondrusek's final line:

1 IP
0 H
0 R
0 ER
0 BB
1 K
3 TBF

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:02 PM
9
1 out
Church up

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Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 04:04 PM
A 4-3 homestand against AAA teams is not particularly promising. Gotta look farther than just one-upping the reeling Cards at this point.

Does it really matter? The Reds are in the playoffs, I'd rather get these guys healthy and ready for the postseason. As Scott Rolen says, momentum in baseball is way overrated...

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:05 PM
3-1
2 out
Parra up

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alloverjr
09-16-2010, 04:06 PM
As Scott Rolen says, momentum in baseball is way overrated...

as is hitting a fastball apparently :p:

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:06 PM
8
3 out
Top of 9th over
Gomes up

3-1, Diamondbacks

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Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 04:07 PM
I'm interested to see how Burton pitches these next few weeks. Wonder if he could earn a spot on the postseason roster?

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Juan Gutierrez on to pitch, batting 9th, for Aaron Heilman.

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Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Just got back from the future. Reds win 4-3. Enjoy your day everyone.

reds44
09-16-2010, 04:09 PM
First pitch out for Gomes to start the inning.

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:09 PM
Heilman's final line:

1 IP
0 H
0 R
0 ER
0 BB
1 K
3 TBF

5-3
1 out
Bruce up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:11 PM
7
2 out
Hernandez up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:11 PM
HBP
Runner on 1st
2 out
Francisco up

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Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:12 PM
All or nothing baby!

Go big or go home!!

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Cedric
09-16-2010, 04:13 PM
This pitcher is very wild and you are down 2 runs. So you leadoff the inning by swinging at the first pitch.

I'm utterly confused how someone can be a major leaguer this long and not figure the small stuff out.

mbgrayson
09-16-2010, 04:13 PM
Just got back from the future. Reds win 4-3. Enjoy your day everyone.

I wish. Reds lose 3-1. Looked very anemic today on offense. Pitching was decent, only giving up three runs. Gotta score more than one to win 90% + of the time.

Reds and D-Backs split 4 games. Both losses were by 3-1 scores. The pitching, Coco notwithstanding, was fine. But when Dan Hudson and Rodrigo Lopez hold us to one run, we need to do better.

I'm not panicking or anything, but they do need to crank up the offense.

reds44
09-16-2010, 04:14 PM
A 4-3 homestand against the Pirates and Diamonback.

Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 04:14 PM
I wish. Reds lose 3-1. Looked very anemic today on offense. Pitching was decent, only giving up three runs. Gotta score more than one to win 90% + of the time.

Reds and D-Backs split 4 games. Both losses were by 3-1 scores. The pitching, Coco notwithstanding, was fine. But when Dan Hudson and Rodrigo Lopez hold us to one run, we need to do better.

I'm not panicking or anything, but they do need to crank up the offense.

I'm fine if they want to wait until about Oct. 4 to start cranking the offense up :)

Redsfan320
09-16-2010, 04:14 PM
4-3
3 out
Bottom of 9th over
Game over

3-1, Diamondbacks

W: Lopez
L: Volquez
S: Guetierrez

Nothing, go home. :(

320

The Operator
09-16-2010, 04:14 PM
Are we allowed to be upset with the offense yet?

cumberlandreds
09-16-2010, 04:15 PM
Reds played like I feel,tired. Not really a great homestand considering the competition. I'm just glad they have the lead that they do. Because they are playing very tired right now.

Cedric
09-16-2010, 04:15 PM
Are we allowed to be upset with the offense yet?

Nothing but cheerleading is allowed.

Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 04:16 PM
Are we allowed to be upset with the offense yet?

You mean the offense that is at the top of the league in most major categories?

The Operator
09-16-2010, 04:16 PM
You mean the offense that is at the top of the league in most major categories?
No, I mean the offense that got dominated by two putrid pitching staffs on last place teams, back to back. They can't do much of anything right now.

Reds Freak
09-16-2010, 04:19 PM
No, I mean the offense that got dominated by two putrid pitching staffs on last place teams, back to back. They can't do much of anything right now.

Wait, isn't that the same club? Or did they turn into a different team on this homestand?

Listen, it's obvious they are struggling right now. But they have some key guys banged up or in a slump (which happens from time to time in a 162-game season). They know they are in the playoffs, it's important to get some of these guys healthy. They will be fine. Keep in mind they gained a couple games in the standings on this homestand...

PuffyPig
09-16-2010, 04:22 PM
No, I mean the offense that got dominated by two putrid pitching staffs on last place teams, back to back. They can't do much of anything right now.

Always favor the larger sample size over the smaller.

Even teams that lead the league in scoring runs doesn't score runs all the time. Becuase half of scoring runs is as much randomness or distribution of hits as anything else. We outhit the Diamonfbacks today, they just distrubuted their hits better.

Homer Bailey
09-16-2010, 04:23 PM
wait, isn't that the same club? Or did they turn into a different team on this homestand?

Listen, it's obvious they are struggling right now. But they have some key guys banged up or in a slump (which happens from time to time in a 162-game season). They know they are in the playoffs, it's important to get some of these guys healthy. They will be fine. Keep in mind they gained a couple games in the standings on this homestand...

Thank


always favor the larger sample size over the smaller.

Even teams that lead the league in scoring runs doesn't score runs all the time. Becuase half of scoring runs is as much randomness or distribution of hits as anything else. We outhit the diamonfbacks today, they just distrubuted their hits better.

You.

muddie
09-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Maloney and Burton were very impressive the last two days.

WVRedsFan
09-16-2010, 06:42 PM
Wait, isn't that the same club? Or did they turn into a different team on this homestand?

Listen, it's obvious they are struggling right now. But they have some key guys banged up or in a slump (which happens from time to time in a 162-game season). They know they are in the playoffs, it's important to get some of these guys healthy. They will be fine. Keep in mind they gained a couple games in the standings on this homestand...This always happens. In other (the last 10) years it was the Reds beating the division leaders. Nothing to lose. The Reds are 6-9 in September and batting about .250. With the series coming up, they could tank further or get hot. Gomes has wakened up his bat and Stubbs is seeing the ball well. Once we get Phillips back to close to 100% and Votto our of his funk, we'll be OK. The pitching has been adequate. I'm still confident they're going to surprise a lot of folks in the playoffs.

traderumor
09-16-2010, 07:09 PM
4-3 on the current 10 game stretch. Meanwhile, our closest competitor is 1-5 going into tonight's game. Give folks a few wins and they turn into Ohio State football fans, expecting every win to be a blow out and a loss to be their fault.

OesterPoster
09-16-2010, 09:48 PM
I was at the game today, and some of the comments on here I have to question. When did Votto cost the Reds two runs? When he led off the inning with a double, Bruce's liner to right was only a foot or so away from the 1st baseman. He had to hesitate to make sure it wasn't caught. Did a TV replay show something more than what I saw? And when was the 2nd run?

redsmetz
09-16-2010, 10:37 PM
I was at the game today, and some of the comments on here I have to question. When did Votto cost the Reds two runs? When he led off the inning with a double, Bruce's liner to right was only a foot or so away from the 1st baseman. He had to hesitate to make sure it wasn't caught. Did a TV replay show something more than what I saw? And when was the 2nd run?

I was there too and you've described it as it actually happened. Unfortunate.

We hit some balls well, but three (or so) of the four hardest hit balls went to the wall (or nearly so) and were caught. The hardest hit ball was hit by Jay Bruce and I'm surprised their first baseman still has a hand. And, of course, Gomes was doubled up, one of those types of plays little league players cry about because the didn't do anything wrong and yet a bad outcome came about.

We're going to lose some like this. It was a disappointing game, particular being in attendance, but it happens. And, as others have noted, even the worst teams at times still score more runs and win and their pitchers will shut someone down. Kudos.

Ron Madden
09-17-2010, 04:48 AM
Don't really know where to post this but here goes.

I'm pretty sure the Reds will win the Central Division.

I know that once the playoffs start anything can happen.

I can understand that some fans are worried heading down the stretch.

I can't understand the need of some of the most optimistic fans to consistently chastise and put down those Reds fans among us who are truly concerned with the quality of baseball the Reds have played for the last month or so.

Let's all try to enjoy this ride together, we are all Reds Fans here. :thumbup:

traderumor
09-17-2010, 10:17 AM
Don't really know where to post this but here goes.

I'm pretty sure the Reds will win the Central Division.

I know that once the playoffs start anything can happen.

I can understand that some fans are worried heading down the stretch.

I can't understand the need of some of the most optimistic fans to consistently chastise and put down those Reds fans among us who are truly concerned with the quality of baseball the Reds have played for the last month or so.

Let's all try to enjoy this ride together, we are all Reds Fans here. :thumbup:Last month or so? Try a couple of weeks stretch, you know the one where most of the team has had one ailment or another. It isn't optimism vs. pessimism, it is really chronic complaining no matter what the state of the team is that gets to me.

westofyou
09-17-2010, 10:53 AM
Last month or so? Try a couple of weeks stretch, you know the one where most of the team has had one ailment or another. It isn't optimism vs. pessimism, it is really chronic complaining no matter what the state of the team is that gets to me.

Reds

Stretch R PG Avg OR PG ERA W-L
Homestand, April 5 to 11 22 3.7 0.23 27 4.5 4.33 3-4
Road Trip, April 12 to 18 31 4.4 0.223 42 6 6.06 8-5
Homestand, April 20 to 25 34 5.7 0.272 47 7.8 7.67 11-8
Road Trip, April 27 to May 2 22 3.7 0.233 22 3.7 3.63 13-12
Homestand, May 3 to 9 38 6.3 0.297 30 5 4.58 16-15
Road Trip, May 10 to 12 16 5.3 0.302 1 0.3 0.33 19-15
Homestand, May 14 to 18 25 5 0.298 16 3.2 3.2 23-16
Road Trip, May 19 to 23 29 5.8 0.294 27 5.4 5.02 25-19
Homestand, May 24 to 30 47 6.7 0.343 19 2.7 2.53 30-21
Road Trip, May 31 to June 6 26 4.3 0.289 33 5.5 5.19 33-24
Homestand, June 7 to 17 46 4.6 0.285 55 5.5 5.38 37-30
Road Trip, June 18 to 23 14 2.3 0.218 13 2.2 2.25 40-33
Homestand, June 25 to 30 36 6 0.29 27 4.5 4.42 44-35
Road Trip, July 1 to 11 51 4.6 0.252 33 3 2.67 49-41
Homestand, July 16 to 22 32 4.6 0.251 28 4 4 53-44
Road Trip, July 23 to 28 37 6.2 0.304 17 2.8 2.94 57-46
Homestand, July 30 to August 1 11 3.7 0.233 9 3 2.25 59-47
Road Trip, August 2 to 8 37 6.2 0.29 18 3 1.7 64-48
Homestand, August 9 to 15 22 3.7 0.229 27 4.5 4 67-51
Road Trip, August 17 to 25 58 6.4 0.287 63 7 7 73-54
Homestand, August 27 to September 1 35 5.8 0.303 18 3 2.62 78-55
Road Trip, September 3 to 9 25 3.6 0.259 37 5.3 5.21 79-61
Homestand, September 10 to 16 26 3.7 0.252 23 3.3 3.09 83-64