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Redsfan320
09-17-2010, 05:09 PM
Phillips 4
Cabrera 6
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Stubbs 8
Bloomquist 9
Cueto 1

As expected, Willie in for Bruce. Good to see Rolen back. I won't be doing PBP tonight.

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PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 06:29 PM
Rodriguez real tough on lefties, I don't mind Bruce being brought in more slowly.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 08:59 PM
I won't be doing PBP tonight.

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Neither is Raisor.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:08 PM
Phillips lines out to right.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:09 PM
Cabrera lines out to right. Almost the exact same spot as Phillips.

RedsMan3203
09-17-2010, 09:10 PM
Its going to be a Grande evening!

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:11 PM
Votto strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:14 PM
Bourn lines a single off the glove of Cueto.

RedsMan3203
09-17-2010, 09:16 PM
Rolllllllllllllllen!

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:16 PM
Great play by Rolen on a 5-4 FC. He threw that from his back.

Raisor
09-17-2010, 09:17 PM
Great Scott!

http://thememoriesmusic.com/uploads/images/doc_brown-full-1.jpg

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:19 PM
Pence with an infield hit. Rolen throws high to 1st. 1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:20 PM
Lee hit by the pitch. Bases loaded.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:22 PM
Johnson sac fly to right. 1-0 Astros. 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:24 PM
Wallace strikes out swinging. 1-0 Astros after 1.

RedsMan3203
09-17-2010, 09:25 PM
That could of gotten ugly....

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:25 PM
Meanwhile in St. Louis:

Padres up 1-0 in the 1st on a Tejada homer.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 09:25 PM
Tough luck for Cueto that inning but gets out of it with just 1 unearned run. Can the Reds score against Wandy though?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:27 PM
Rolen grounds back to Rodriguez. 1 out.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 09:29 PM
Tough luck for Cueto that inning but gets out of it with just 1 unearned run. Can the Reds score against Wandy though?

Just scuffling a bit. Going to be hard to hit with major black holes at the leadoff spot and the 4-5 spots.

These last few weeks the Reds seem to have hit a little wall. That happens over 162 games.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:29 PM
Gomes strikes out looking. 2 outs.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 09:29 PM
Such a joy to watch Gomes hit. :)

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:30 PM
Hernandez walks.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 09:31 PM
Pujols doubles.

1-1 and 3rd and 2nd with nobody out.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:33 PM
Stubbs walks. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:36 PM
Bloomquist strikes out swinging. 1-0 Astros mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Now 2-1 Cards in the 1st.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Cards up 2-1 after one.

Gonna have to hope they lose a lot at this rate.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:39 PM
Now 3-1 Cards in the 1st as Molina doubles in a run.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:40 PM
Downs flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:41 PM
Castro flies out to the track in left.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:42 PM
Rodriguez doubles to left. Opposing pitchers continue to hit well against Reds pitching.

WVRedsFan
09-17-2010, 09:42 PM
Why do I feel like the stars are alligned against us tonight?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:44 PM
Bourn singles to center. Ugh. They would have had Rodriguez but Stubbs bobbles the ball. 2-0 Astros. Runner on 2nd.

Red in Chicago
09-17-2010, 09:44 PM
UGLY

CTA513
09-17-2010, 09:46 PM
I hope this isn't what we see in the playoffs.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Sanchez grounds out to 2nd. 2-0 Astros after 2.

WVRedsFan
09-17-2010, 09:46 PM
Hard to believe that two guys--Stubbs and Rolen--make mistakes that cost a run. Sometimes you just get this. Maybe our lead was too big or we counted on The Cardinals to always lose.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:50 PM
Cueto with a leadoff walk.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 09:51 PM
Love that 8 pitch walk by Cueto!

Oxilon
09-17-2010, 09:51 PM
The strikezone is pretty tight to say the least. That last ball looked good to me.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:52 PM
I will say this for the ump he has been consistently tight for both sides.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:52 PM
4 pitch walk to Phillips. 4 walks by Rodriguez.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 09:53 PM
Wandy at 50 pitches with nobody out in the third....

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:54 PM
Padres just scored in the 2nd. 3-2 Cards top 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:54 PM
Cabrera sacrifices the runners to 2nd and 3rd.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 09:55 PM
Won't they walk Votto now? I hate bunts....

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:56 PM
Cueto looks hurt at 3rd.

RedsMan3203
09-17-2010, 09:56 PM
ughh... Just want the Reds needed... Cueto hurt

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:57 PM
Votto walks. Bases loaded for Rolen.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 09:57 PM
Pitched around Votto, intentional unintentional walk there.

Oxilon
09-17-2010, 09:57 PM
What, is Cordero on the mound?

Red in Chicago
09-17-2010, 09:57 PM
patience rolen...patience...

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 09:58 PM
Rodriguez is already at 60 pitches.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Benefit of a tight strike zone on that pitch.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:01 PM
Rolen chases a low outside pitch and strikes out swinging.

WVRedsFan
09-17-2010, 10:01 PM
Rolen lost at the plate.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:01 PM
So far tonight for Rodriquez, no hits, 5 walks and 4 Ks.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:02 PM
Gomes pops out to 1st. 2-0 Astros mid 3rd.

Playadlc
09-17-2010, 10:02 PM
Gomes is just awful.

WVRedsFan
09-17-2010, 10:02 PM
Not our night. Goodness!

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:03 PM
4-5 on this team is putrid right now with no real alternatives.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:03 PM
Gomes is just awful.

Blame the manager also. He takes the bat out of the MVP's hand an awful lot.

I hate bunting with a passion.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 10:04 PM
Blame the manager also. He takes the bat out of the MVP's hand an awful lot.

I hate bunting with a passion.

Could not agree with you more. Becomes doubly stupid when you consider the way Cabrera has been hitting the ball recently.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:04 PM
Blame the manager also. He takes the bat out of the MVP's hand an awful lot.

I hate bunting with a passion.

Please, bases loaded with a lefty pitcher, Rolen and Gomes coming up, Reds should score.

Votto fanned in the first against Rodriguez.

Getting the bags full for Rolen and Gomes isn't a bad move at all, but they didn't execute.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:05 PM
Blame the manager also. He takes the bat out of the MVP's hand an awful lot.

I hate bunting with a passion.

This team isn't hitting regardless. Nothing the Reds are doing lately is working, short of going through these mini home run stretches. They're not scoring any runs from stringing together hits. In that situation, I thought bunting was a good idea. If you can't get a run in from runners at 2nd & 3rd with a couple of opportunities, you don't deserve to score.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:06 PM
Pence strikes out looking. 2 Ks.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:06 PM
This team isn't hitting regardless. Nothing the Reds are doing lately is working, short of going through these mini home run stretches. They're not scoring any runs from stringing together hits. In that situation, I thought bunting was a good idea. If you can't get a run in from runners at 2nd & 3rd with a couple of opportunities, you don't deserve to score.

I'll take my chances with Cabrera/Votto any day over the hitting of Rolen/Gomes.

Rolen hasn't driven the baseball in months and Gomes is just a bad hitter.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:07 PM
I'll take my chances with Cabrera/Votto any day over the hitting of Rolen/Gomes.

Rolen hasn't driven the baseball in months and Gomes is just a bad hitter.

Except with the way the Reds are going, Cabrera just would have grounded into a double play, they would have walked Votto and the same result would have happened.

Also... I don't know if you're aware of this, but despite how bad Rolen looks (and I share the same opinion), he has an .829 OPS since the All-Star break.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:08 PM
Lee grounds out to 3rd. Nice play by Rolen.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:08 PM
Getting the bags full for Rolen and Gomes isn't a bad move at all, but they didn't execute.

The way Rolen's been swinging lately I'd disagree completely.

Cabrera, suprisingly, is the only one that's hiting with any consistency.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:08 PM
Except with the way the Reds are going, Cabrera just would have grounded into a double play, they would have walked Votto and the same result would have happened.

Also... I don't know if you're aware of this, but despite how bad Rolen looks (and I share the same opinion), he has an .829 OPS since the All-Star break.

And Gomes has 80 RBIs.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:09 PM
Pujols drives in another run. 4-2 Cards in the 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:09 PM
Johnson strikes out swinging. 3 Ks. 2-0 Astros after 3.

TheNext44
09-17-2010, 10:09 PM
I don't like bunting in that situation because Wandy was having trouble throwing strikes. Bunting allows him to get back on track, which he did.

When the pitcher is struggling, attack harder, don't pull back.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:10 PM
I don't like bunting in that situation because Wandy was having trouble throwing strikes. Bunting allows him to get back on track, which he did.

When the pitcher is struggling, attack harder, don't pull back.

Dusty doesn't care what you think. ;)

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:11 PM
Now 5-2 Cards in the 2nd.

KoryMac5
09-17-2010, 10:11 PM
And Gomes has 80 RBIs.

Just proves Walt needs another bat in the offseason. Votto has 104 and it's a long drop off to Gomes at 80. That is not going to get it done when teams pitch around Votto.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:12 PM
Hernandez flies out to the track in left center.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:13 PM
Reds might want to try a base hit or two.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:14 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Rodriguez.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Bloomquist strikes out swinging. 6 Ks. 2-0 Astros mid 4th.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:16 PM
Cards up 7-2.

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 10:17 PM
I'll take my chances with Cabrera/Votto any day over the hitting of Rolen/Gomes.

Rolen hasn't driven the baseball in months and Gomes is just a bad hitter.

And Cabrerra is a good hitter?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:19 PM
Wallace strikes out swinging. 4 Ks.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:19 PM
And Cabrerra is a good hitter?

He's been seeing the ball recently it looks like. I wouldn't have bunted there no matter what.

But that's baseball. Should be able to score runs in other frames.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:20 PM
Downs grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:21 PM
8-2 Cards after 2.

Raisor
09-17-2010, 10:21 PM
And Gomes has 80 RBIs.

which has more to do with Votto and Rolen getting on base ahead of him then anything else.

Phhhl
09-17-2010, 10:22 PM
And Cabrerra is a good hitter?

I think I am going to stop watching and check where we are a week from now. Hanging on every pitch and watching this club play right now is like Chinese water torture. So close, but not close enough to prevent everything from going to pot with the type of losing streak that visits just about every club in the league at least once a year.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:22 PM
Castro grounds out to 1st. 2-0 Astros after 4.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 10:23 PM
Did you guys notice that Wandy is throwing a NO HITTER?

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Just proves Walt needs another bat in the offseason. Votto has 104 and it's a long drop off to Gomes at 80. That is not going to get it done when teams pitch around Votto.

Gomes is 22nd in the NL in RBI's, on pace for about 90. He's hitting 1.075 OPS with RISP, so to the extent that the pitchers are pitching around Votto, it ain't working.

The Reds are leading the NL in runs and we need another big bat because our #2 RBI man is on pace for a paltry 90?

Pujols has 34 IBB, Votto has 6.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:25 PM
which has more to do with Votto and Rolen getting on base ahead of him then anything else.

Maybe, but Gomes hasn't been terrible this year. With a lefty on the mound, setting things up for Rolen and Gomes is not a bad strategy.

If you can't trust your fourth and fifth hitters, righties hitting against a lefty, the lineup has a problem.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:25 PM
Gomes is 22nd in the NL in RBI's, on pace for about 90. He's hitting 1.075 OPS with RISP, so to the extent that the pitchers are pitching around Votto, it ain't working.

The Reds are leading the NL in runs and we need another big bat because our #2 RBI man is on pace for a paltry 90?

Pujols has 34 IBB, Votto has 6.

You expect Gomes to be the 2nd big bat next year?

This year has been a perfect mix of a hot streak/chances/and RISP luck. He's a bad hitter.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:25 PM
Cueto strikes out swinging. 7 Ks for Rodriguez.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Maybe, but Gomes hasn't been terrible this year. With a lefty on the mound, setting things up for Rolen and Gomes is not a bad strategy.

If you can't trust your fourth and fifth hitters, the lineup has a problem.

But that is the point. The Reds have had a big problem at 4/5 for a couple weeks now. Pointing out year long stats does nothing when guys are obviously struggling.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:27 PM
But that is the point. The Reds have had a big problem at 4/5 for a couple weeks now. Pointing out year long stats does nothing when guys are obviously struggling.

Have to trust Rolen for sure, and Gomes against lefties. That's your team.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:27 PM
8!

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:27 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging. 8 Ks.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Cabrera pops out to short. 2-0 Astros mid 5th.

mbgrayson
09-17-2010, 10:30 PM
Wandy still with the NO HITTER through five innings, but he is at 89 pitches.

HokieRed
09-17-2010, 10:31 PM
No doubt Walt targeted the right guy. I wish he'd gotten that deal done.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:32 PM
Rodriguez strikes out swinging. 5 Ks for Cueto.

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 10:32 PM
You expect Gomes to be the 2nd big bat next year?

This year has been a perfect mix of a hot streak/chances/and RISP luck. He's a bad hitter.

I didn't say that.

I said that pitchers have not been pitching around Votto this year, and when they have, they have been punished.

The thought that a 90 RBI pace for our #2 RBI proves we need someone better is what I was alluding to.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Bourn grounds back to Cueto.2 outs.

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 10:34 PM
Wandy still with the NO HITTER through five innings, but he is at 89 pitches.

He has a season high of 115.

Zero chance he finishes the game.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:34 PM
Sanchez flies out to center. 2-0 Astros after 5. 80 pitches for Cueto.

BCubb2003
09-17-2010, 10:36 PM
Cueto's pitching well, despite his poor luck.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Cueto's pitching well, despite his poor luck.

He isn't pitching bad at all. One mistake to Wandy is about it.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Votto doubles off the wall in right center.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:39 PM
I love Scott. Looks like he is swinging through water right now. Gotta hope he gets hot somehow.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:40 PM
Rolen walks. 1st and 2nd.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:40 PM
Bunt Gomes?

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:40 PM
Come on Jonny. Get hot and drive one!

Reds need him to do what he has done all year.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:41 PM
Fans hate the strike zone for Wandy tonight for those following here. Tight zone.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Gomes homers to left!!!! 3-2 Reds!

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Yea Jonny! Hell yes.

alloverjr
09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Bunt Gomes?

I wouldn't. :D

Playadlc
09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Gomes is just awful.

...

Kc61
09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
83 ribbies.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:43 PM
He's starting to catch fire, folks, He's showing signs of it the last few days. This would be excellent timing if he does.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:44 PM
Hernandez flies out to center.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 10:45 PM
He's starting to catch fire, folks, He's showing signs of it the last few days. This would be excellent timing if he does.

Yeah, it would be sweet if he could. I still don't believe that he is as bad as he has been. Those numbers can still even out.

hebroncougar
09-17-2010, 10:46 PM
He's starting to catch fire, folks, He's showing signs of it the last few days. This would be excellent timing if he does.

+1, I was one of the few who voted to pick up Gomes option. At worst, he's a 4th OF'er, and a big RH bat off the bench. He's streaky, and his defense isn't great, but I'd take him over what we can afford in FA.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:46 PM
Stubbs singles to left.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:47 PM
Stubbs back over .250.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:49 PM
Bloomquist strikes out for the 3rd time. 2 outs.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 10:50 PM
I cannot wait to buy a Willie Bloomquist game worn jersey at Redsfest next year for ten bucks. I will be the envy of my peer group and befuddle thousands of people at a time.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:52 PM
Cueto strikes out. 10 Ks for Rodriguez. 3-2 Reds mid 6th.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:53 PM
I cannot wait to buy a Willie Bloomquist game worn jersey at Redsfest next year for ten bucks. I will be the envy of my peer group and befuddle thousands of people at a time.

Why settle for making friends jealous? Sell that sucker on Ebay for a cool ten grand.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:55 PM
Pence takes some ugly hacks doesn't he? Still finds a way to get the job done usually.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:55 PM
Pence strikes out swinging. 6 Ks.

TheNext44
09-17-2010, 10:55 PM
Serious question:

If Votto's double last inning went over the wall and was a homer, do the Reds score three runs that inning? In other words, would his hypothetical leadoff homer have been a rally killer?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:56 PM
Lee homers to left. Tie game 3-3.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 10:56 PM
Ugh. And I was getting ready to remark how good Cueto has been tonight.

CTA513
09-17-2010, 10:57 PM
Bautista set a Blue Jays record by hitting his 48th HR of the year tonight.
He only had 59 HRs in his career before this season.


:eek:

kbrake
09-17-2010, 10:57 PM
Just got here. That wasn't fun.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Johnson flies out to center. 2 outs.

CTA513
09-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Just got here. That wasn't fun.

Now we know who to blame.

:D

Cedric
09-17-2010, 10:58 PM
Just got here. That wasn't fun.

If he wants to be a great pitcher he has to stay focused for a whole outing. 2 big mistakes to Wandy and Lee have killed him tonight. You have to realize how bad this Astros lineup is and not give in to Lee with a terrible hanger like that.

kbrake
09-17-2010, 11:00 PM
If he wants to be a great pitcher he has to stay focused for a whole outing. 2 big mistakes to Wandy and Lee have killed him tonight. You have to realize how bad this Astros lineup is and not give in to Lee with a terrible hanger like that.

What happened with Wandy?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:00 PM
Wallace walks.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:01 PM
Bautista set a Blue Jays record by hitting his 48th HR of the year tonight.
He only had 59 HRs in his career before this season.


:eek:

I wonder if that's ever been done before... a player nearly matching his entire career (2,500 PAs) in one season. That's incredible.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:01 PM
Cueto is now at 100 pitches.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:02 PM
Downs flies out to right. 3-3 after 6.

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 11:02 PM
Ugh. And I was getting ready to remark how good Cueto has been tonight.

He has still pitched a good game.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:03 PM
He has still pitched a good game.

What ranking are the Astros in most offensive categories if you know? Not being a smart butt either. Just wondering if this outing is really decent or not. You usually have the numbers fast is why I'm asking.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:04 PM
Mark Melancon in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:05 PM
Phillips flies out to right.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:05 PM
At least that took 2 pitches.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:05 PM
What ranking are the Astros in most offensive categories if you know? Not being a smart butt either. Just wondering if this outing is really decent or not. You usually have the numbers fast is why I'm asking.

For the season, they've been terrible (.667 team OPS). But since the All-Star break, they've been in the upper half of the NL in hitting.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 11:05 PM
Phillips is scuffling in a major way since that bruised wrist.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:06 PM
Phillips by the way now has a .186 OBP this month. Why is he still batting leadoff?

Cabrera flies out to left.

PuffyPig
09-17-2010, 11:08 PM
What ranking are the Astros in most offensive categories if you know? Not being a smart butt either. Just wondering if this outing is really decent or not. You usually have the numbers fast is why I'm asking.

Since the all star break they have been an average offensive team.

My point was simply that one AB won't really determine if he pitched great or poor.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:08 PM
Phillips by the way now has a .186 OBP this month. Why is he still batting leadoff?

Cabrera flies out to left.

Phillips is now a sparkling 7-for-58 in the month.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:08 PM
Phillips by the way now has a .186 OBP this month. Why is he still batting leadoff?

Cabrera flies out to left.

They are waiting for Bloomquist to get his legs under him. He will leadoff tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:08 PM
Gustavo Chacin in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:10 PM
Chapman warming up

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:11 PM
Votto broken bat bloop hit to left.

Gallen5862
09-17-2010, 11:13 PM
Lets go Reds. Time for the Rally Onion.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:14 PM
Jeff Fulchino in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:14 PM
Votto steals 2nd. 15th steal of the year.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:15 PM
I wonder if that's ever been done before... a player nearly matching his entire career (2,500 PAs) in one season. That's incredible.

Brady Anderson - 50 in '96, 72 in career up to that point in around 3800-3900 PAs, if my math is correct.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:15 PM
Passed ball moves Votto to 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:17 PM
Pence robs Rolen with a diving catch. 3-3 mid 7th.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:18 PM
Pence robs Rolen.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:19 PM
Cardinals are crushing the Padres tonight. Hopefully they don't get hot.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:20 PM
Chapman in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:21 PM
Keppinger pinch hits and singles to right.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:21 PM
Keppinger seems like a guy that could hit Chapman. Hope not.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:22 PM
Cueto tonight: 6IP, 5H, 3R, 2ER, 1BB, 6K.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:22 PM
What exactly is George talking about? Bloomquist did nothing ha.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:22 PM
Hernandez tries to pick Keppinger off and throws it into right. Keppinger does not realize it and stays at 1st.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:23 PM
A. Hernandez pinch hitting

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:25 PM
Anyone else hate the view from behind the plate that FSN does in an obvious bunting situation?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:26 PM
A. Hernandez walks. 1st and 2nd.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:26 PM
Anyone else hate the view from behind the plate that FSN does in an obvious bunting situation?

Thinking the same thing.

Bad job by Chapman. Like he was afraid to let the guy bunt.

CrackerJack
09-17-2010, 11:26 PM
Chapman's been watching too much of Coco lately I think (although he's perfectly capable of outings like this).

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:27 PM
Wheels falling off here. Not pretty.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:27 PM
This is hard to watch.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:28 PM
Bourn bunts. Chapman tries to throw to 3rd and Rolen can't handle the throw. Bases loaded.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:28 PM
Rolen has been a disaster lately. But experience is key to winning right?

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:28 PM
Ruled a base hit? Should be an FC/E5

Red in Chicago
09-17-2010, 11:28 PM
a hit??? seriously, rolen should have had that

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:29 PM
Sanchez singles to center. 5-3 Astros.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:29 PM
This game has been really frustrating...

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:29 PM
a hit??? seriously, rolen should have had that

The guy can't bend over and he is key to this team. It's going to be a scary couple of weeks for this team.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 11:29 PM
Awful.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:30 PM
Rolen has been a disaster lately. But experience is key to winning right?

Disaster? Even this month he has a respectable .776 OPS. Hardly.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:30 PM
That is it for Chapman tonight.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 11:30 PM
Rolen has been a disaster lately. But experience is key to winning right?

Yeah, the inexperienced Chapman really showed them.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:30 PM
Cardinals winning 11-3. This may become a race after all.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:30 PM
Cardinals winning 11-3. This may become a race after all.

They'll still be 6 games out. That's quite a bit.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:31 PM
They'll still be 6 games out. That's quite a bit.

Mets blew a 7 game lead with 17 games left two years ago. Not saying the Reds will, but it's happened before, and recently.

CTA513
09-17-2010, 11:31 PM
Chapman is looking at his 1st loss unless the Reds come from behind.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:31 PM
5 games back in the loss column. That's not anywhere near a lock with the way the Reds are playing.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:32 PM
Mets blew a 7 game lead with 17 games left two years ago. Not saying the Reds will, but it's happened before, and recently.

That was one of the worst 3 collapses in the history of baseball. That's the clinical definition of outlier.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:32 PM
Masset in to pitch

Kc61
09-17-2010, 11:32 PM
They'll still be 6 games out. That's quite a bit.


Except the Cards have six games left with Pittsburgh.

Reds aren't playing winning ball right now, and unless they do they will blow this lead. Can't count on the Cards to lose all the time.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:34 PM
Pence flies out to the wall in right. 1st and 3rd with 1 out.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:34 PM
The manic nature of the board is hysterical sometimes.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:35 PM
Except the Cards have six games left with Pittsburgh.

Reds aren't playing winning ball right now, and unless they do they will blow this lead. Can't count on the Cards to lose all the time.

The team of which just beat them 2 of 3 a few weeks ago.

That Cardinals team is not very good. I am not saying the race is "over," but people are getting overly panicky. I'll say it again: that Cardinals team is not a good baseball team. The worrying over them is way overboard.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:36 PM
Lee pops out to Votto. 2 outs.

kaldaniels
09-17-2010, 11:38 PM
a hit??? seriously, rolen should have had that

I slo-mowed that play...the runner beat the throw, if Rolen catches it, he's safe.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:38 PM
The team of which just beat them 2 of 3 a few weeks ago.

That Cardinals team is not very good. I am not saying the race is "over," but people are getting overly panicky. I'll say it again: that Cardinals team is not a good baseball team. The worrying over them is way overboard.

The Cards end the season with a four game series w/Colorado. That helps the Reds cause. I don't think the Reds will blow this lead. But it'd be nice to see them play a little bit better.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:39 PM
Johnson strikes out swiging. Good job by Masset to limit the damage. 5-3 Astros after 7.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:40 PM
The Cards end the season with a four game series w/Colorado. That helps the Reds cause. I don't think the Reds will blow this lead. But it'd be nice to see them play a little bit better.

Oh I agree the Reds aren't playing well, and it would be much more comforting if they were playing better than this. But most playoff scenarios have the statistical probability of the Reds winning the division over 99%. I'd call those good odds.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 11:40 PM
The Cards end the season with a four game series w/Colorado. That helps the Reds cause. I don't think the Reds will blow this lead. But it'd be nice to see them play a little bit better.

That's about where I am. They look a little overawed by the last stages of this season. A lot of sloppy play and mental lapses. Very fortunate that the Cardinals melted down in August.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:41 PM
Matt Lindstrom in to pitch

Kc61
09-17-2010, 11:42 PM
The team of which just beat them 2 of 3 a few weeks ago.

That Cardinals team is not very good. I am not saying the race is "over," but people are getting overly panicky. I'll say it again: that Cardinals team is not a good baseball team. The worrying over them is way overboard.

I'm sure you know better, but I see a nine-game road trip and the potential for a lot of losses if the Reds don't start playing better. Then they come home for two series and anything can happen.

They just aren't playing very well. Hopefully they will get going again and win this thing.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:42 PM
Gomes strikes out swinging. 1 out.

dsmith421
09-17-2010, 11:43 PM
Gomes strikes out swinging. 1 out.

This is literally a description of what happened, but doesn't give the full flavor of Jonny Gomes swinging a second late at a pitch that crossed the plate at the approximate height of the crown of his batting helmet. He couldn't have hit that with a tennis racket.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:44 PM
Hernandez with a soft line out to 2nd.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:44 PM
Mets blew a 7 game lead with 17 games left two years ago. Not saying the Reds will, but it's happened before, and recently.

The Mets are a different story altogether. They are the complete opposite of a team. The Reds are a much different ball club.

Not saying that it would be impossible, but that team had star players celebrating HRs while they were on the wrong side of a losing score as their lead evaporated. That crap would never go down on this team.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:44 PM
From the naked eye, the Reds seem to be hitting into some pretty bad luck lately...

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:44 PM
I THINK the Reds will win the division. I don't KNOW if they will. The Reds struggled terribly to beat the worlds worst two road teams this week.

There is no reason to suggest this team couldn't drop 5 in a row on the road.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:45 PM
I THINK the Reds will win the division. I don't KNOW if they will. The Reds struggled terribly to beat the worlds worst two road teams this week.

There is no reason to suggest this team couldn't drop 5 in a row on the road.

True, but the crazy thing about this team is that they are just as likely to win five games in a row...

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:46 PM
If the Reds go 5-9, even assuming this is a loss, and the Cards win tonight, St. Louis still has to go 12-5 just to tie. If the Reds go 7-7, the Cards can't lose more than 3 games.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:46 PM
I still think the Reds win the division. With Philly and teams in the West playing well they are probably not going to have home field in the division series with the way they are playing.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:46 PM
Stubbs walks.

kaldaniels
09-17-2010, 11:46 PM
This is literally a description of what happened, but doesn't give the full flavor of Jonny Gomes swinging a second late at a pitch that crossed the plate at the approximate height of the crown of his batting helmet. He couldn't have hit that with a tennis racket.

Can we not give Jonny a pass on the night he hits a 3 run home run...too much to ask? :dunno:

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:47 PM
Don't forget guys, they faced one of the best pitchers in baseball over the past 2 months. They weren't facing a patsy.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:47 PM
Bruce hitting for Bloomquist.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:47 PM
Stubbs seems to be getting on a lot lately. Maybe he should get a shot back at the top of the lineup and drop the struggling Phillips down in the lineup.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:48 PM
Can we not give Jonny a pass on the night he hits a 3 run home run...too much to ask? :dunno:

Ditto. Sometimes it is way too transparent.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:48 PM
Stubbs seems to be getting on a lot lately. Maybe he should get a shot back at the top of the lineup and drop the struggling Phillips down in the lineup.

No problem with this...

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:48 PM
Disclaimer time also. I'm thrilled with this season and NOTHING could change that. Just being honest about what I feel here. I don't think the Reds have good enough starting pitching to be assured of avoiding a bad losing streak.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:49 PM
Stubbs seems to be getting on a lot lately. Maybe he should get a shot back at the top of the lineup and drop the struggling Phillips down in the lineup.

I would like to see Bruce back in the top spot, move Stubbs up to cleanup, Rolen down to 5th with Phillips 6th and Gomes 7th. Just an experiment I wouldn't mind.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:49 PM
Bruce singles to left center. 1st and 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:50 PM
Alonso hitting for Masset

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:50 PM
I would like to see Bruce back in the top spot, move Stubbs up to cleanup, Rolen down to 5th with Phillips 6th and Gomes 7th. Just an experiment I wouldn't mind.

I don't want to see the pitcher hitting in front of Bruce. Bruce 5th would make sense.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:50 PM
Bruce slaps a hit to left. He should never be out of the lineup. Especially in favor of Willie Bloomquist.

NJReds
09-17-2010, 11:51 PM
Are you kidding. Caught at the wall.

edabbs44
09-17-2010, 11:51 PM
Frigging A

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Are you freaking kidding me. OMG.

kaldaniels
09-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Wow.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Wow wow wow. He just missed hitting that one 600 feet...

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:52 PM
Alonso just missed flying out the wall in right. 5-3 Astros mid 8th.

TheNext44
09-17-2010, 11:52 PM
If the Reds go 5-9, even assuming this is a loss, and the Cards win tonight, St. Louis still has to go 12-5 just to tie. If the Reds go 7-7, the Cards can't lose more than 3 games.

That's the key. The Mets blew a 7 game lead more because the Phillies went 12-4 in their last 16 games than the Mets folding.

The Cards just don't look like a team that could go 12-4 the rest of the season. But anything technically is possible.

TheNext44
09-17-2010, 11:53 PM
Stupid Minute Maid Park crazy dimensions.

Brutus
09-17-2010, 11:54 PM
I don't want to see the pitcher hitting in front of Bruce. Bruce 5th would make sense.

Bruce was on fire in the leadoff spot, though. There was something about the approach he was taking that made him so comfortable. Besides... the Reds need someone to get on base. Right now, Phillips isn't working. He would probably be better to rest his hand for a week, but if that's not going to happen, at least take some pressure off him.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 11:54 PM
Anybody have a problem with Dusty going to Chapman tonight?

It's second guessing, I know, but for an inexperienced guy, isn't he being used in rather high pressure situations?

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:54 PM
Ondrusek in to pitch

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:54 PM
Wallace grounds out to 2nd.

TheNext44
09-17-2010, 11:55 PM
This outing by Chapman is why you can't just make him the closer. He could be the closer by Playoff time, but he needs some work until then. This outing could be a blessing in disguise, helping him learn how to handle pressure.

Kc61
09-17-2010, 11:55 PM
Bruce was on fire in the leadoff spot, though. There was something about the approach he was taking that made him so comfortable. Besides... the Reds need someone to get on base. Right now, Phillips isn't working. He would probably be better to rest his hand for a week, but if that's not going to happen, at least take some pressure off him.

Dusty was using Bruce lead off against lefties. He dropped him down in the lineup against righties.

Reds Freak
09-17-2010, 11:55 PM
I'm still in disbelief about that Alonso hit. I feel like that was their chance. It was lke the Major League quote..."Too high, too high"

Reds Fanatic
09-17-2010, 11:56 PM
Downs flies out to right.

Cedric
09-17-2010, 11:56 PM
Hard to get anything going with Phillips up next inning. I hate seeing such a great player struggle this bad.

I think we had our chance and just missed it.