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Degenerate39
09-24-2010, 07:07 PM
Phillips
Cabrera
Bruce
Rolen
Gomes
Hernandez
Stubbs
Hanigan
Arroyo RHP

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 08:09 PM
I assume that Joey is still not feeling well? Hernandez at first base?

The Operator
09-24-2010, 09:35 PM
Still no Joey? :(

Oh well, go get 'em boys. I think this SD team is beatable.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 09:43 PM
OK, I'm watching NYY-BOS on MLB Network and they're discussing Felix Hernandez being in on the Cy Young discussion.

Obviously, the guys on YES network want Sabathia to win it. Basically, their justification for Sabatha getting despite his ERA being almost a run higher than Hernandez's was that "well, CC would give up less runs if The Yankees scored less runs." I kid you not.

They then went on to say "You won't be talking about your WHIP or ERA in the Pitcher's Old Folks home, you'll be talking about who had more wins."

Just some serious intellectual commentating going on.

/ end rant

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 10:07 PM
Mark Sheldon has an article up about Votto's bad sinus infection. Saw the San Diego team doctor today.

http://marksheldon.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/09/votto_still_sick.html

guttle11
09-24-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm prone to bad sinus infections myself...they are not fun. Some of them can knock you out for days, and even when you can actually get up you feel like crap for nearly a week. No sense in rushing anything, the beauty of a 7 game lead with just over a week left.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 10:24 PM
No sense in rushing anything, the beauty of a 7 game lead with just over a week left.Word.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Alright, here we go. Game on!

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:08 PM
Phillips flies out to Ludwick in RF.

1 out, OCab to the plate.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:10 PM
OC knocks a single into left center.

1 on, 1 out for Bruce.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:11 PM
Bruce sneaks a single through the right side.

Runners on first and second, Rolen up. Still 1 out.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:11 PM
Ahem.... anybody else out there? :cool:

mth123
09-24-2010, 11:12 PM
I'm here. Appreciate the PBP

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:13 PM
Alright, another person!

I'll try my best to keep up with the PBP. I do get ADD from time to time though. :p:

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:13 PM
Rolen pops up to AGon.

Runners still hanging out on 1B and 2B, now with 2 outs.

Gomes to the plate.

mth123
09-24-2010, 11:14 PM
This is the worst possible park for Gomes. His power goes poof and a lot of OF to cover.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:15 PM
Gomes pops out. Shocking.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:15 PM
Gomes hits one that might have been gone, were they playing the game in a grain silo.

In Petco Park? Short popup to the outfield.

After .5, no score.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:19 PM
Venable flies out to Gomes.

1 out for Eckstein

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:19 PM
Eckstein retired in a weak fly to Bruce.

2 out for Tejada

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:21 PM
Tejada out, somehow, I stepped out of the room and the inning was over when I came back.

Bronson lookin' good so far.

WebScorpion
09-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Young at 16 pitches, 13 strikes.
Bronson at 8 pitches, :D 6 strikes.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Young at 16 pitches, 13 strikes.
Bronson at 8 pitches, :D 6 strikes.Pitch to contact! :cool:

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Hernandez popped out, Stubbs up with 1 down.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:25 PM
STUBBS! MONSTER HOMER!

1-0 good guys.

Man, that kid has POWER.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:25 PM
Holy crap there are a lot of Reds fans there.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:25 PM
Holy crap there are a lot of Reds fans there.For all the crap we've taken about our attendance this season, Padres fans should get just as much grief.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:28 PM
Hanigan walks. 1 on, still 1 out for Arroyo.

If they're smart, they're gonna get some runs versus this guy tonight.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:28 PM
Bronson bunts Hanny over to second successfully.

2 out, runner on second for BP.

Brutus
09-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Giants lead Rockies 2-1 going into the bottom of 9 in Colorado. Tim Lincecum pitching a gem.

WebScorpion
09-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Just so everyone knows, Young had shoulder surgery last year and had more soreness this year when he tried to come back. This is only his second start since some time in April-May...he only went four innings in his previous start.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Giants lead Rockies 2-1 going into the bottom of 9 in Colorado. Tim Lincecum pitching a gem.I'm mixed on that game.

I want The Rockies to lose, but I'm not sure I want The Giants int he postseason. They seem more formidable in a short series than SD.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:30 PM
Grande is an amazing improvement over Keels.

I am not a GG fan either.

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:30 PM
By the way, you might never have heard of him, but apparently San Diego has this player named Eckstein that is among the immortals of baseball history.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:30 PM
Phillips flied out to end the inning.

1-0 good guys through 1.5.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:31 PM
Grande is an amazing improvement over Keels.

I am not a GG fan either.He's pretty good in small doses.

Kind of a "stroll down memory lane" type thing.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:33 PM
He's pretty good in small doses.

Kind of a "stroll down memory lane" type thing.
It reminds me of bad Reds baseball lol

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:34 PM
It reminds me of bad Reds baseball lolMe too in some ways.

But, GG was the voice of The Reds as I became the baseball fan that I am so I'll always have a special place for him even though he got on my nerves in the latter years of his full time tenure.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:35 PM
Me too in some ways.

But, GG was the voice of The Reds as I became the baseball fan that I am so I'll always have a special place for him even though he got on my nerves in the latter years of his full time tenure.
No doubt.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:36 PM
Ludwick hits a DEEP flyball that dropped dead for an out.

2 out, Stairs up.

Brutus
09-24-2010, 11:37 PM
I'm mixed on that game.

I want The Rockies to lose, but I'm not sure I want The Giants int he postseason. They seem more formidable in a short series than SD.

I feel the same way. Having a hard time with that.

Giants ended up winning 2-1.

This could mean, though, that San Diego wins the wild card and the Reds would face them in the first round if the Reds can manage the second seed.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:37 PM
Stairs makes the final out to send us to the top of the 3rd.

Anyone remember back in the day, when Stairs was a Cub? I watched ESPN a lot back then, unfortunately, and every time they'd show a Cubs highlight with Stairs, the talking head (can't remember his name) would say "Professional Hitter.... MATTHEW STAIRS"

Hate ESPN

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:38 PM
OC makes a quick out, Bruce up with 1 down.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:40 PM
Bruce goes down swinging, K #1 for Young.

2 down, bases empty for Rolen.

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Oh, for God's sake. 400-lb. man jumps over the fence. Actually that's unfair. Stairs weighed about 400 lbs in Philly, looks like he hit the plyometrics this offseason.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Oh crap! Rolen hit a looong fly ball but Matt Stairs of all people hauled it in.

Through 2.5, still 1-0 Redlegs

Brutus
09-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Just missing a few of these balls going out. Of course, this park is where flyballs go to die.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:42 PM
Just missing a few of these balls going out. Of course, this park is where flyballs go to die.
It's gotta be the most prolific pitchers park... right?

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:42 PM
On the bright side - Rolen has shown some flashes of getting his power stroke back lately. At quite the opportune time.

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:44 PM
The Big Cat!

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:44 PM
I find Petco Park to be as annoying as Minute Maid Park in Houston.

Ramon Hernandez makes me hurt.

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:44 PM
Man, that hurt to watch.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:44 PM
Razor, gold glove first baseman.

1 down for Headley.

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Ramon does a full splits....ouch.

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Bronson is dealing so far.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Bronson punches out Headley swinging.

2 down, bases empty for Young.

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Bronson could pitch for 10-12 more years in this ballpark, if you give him a good outfield. That may cover a lot of guys though.

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Fastball from Arroyo topping out around 90....

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Harang could pitch for 10-12 more years in this ballpark, if you give him a good outfield.

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:47 PM
Let's not get nuts.

VR
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Bronson is dealing so far.

He has to have great confidence pitching in the grand canyon. I mean, Petco.


I'd be shocked if Harang isn't pitching there next year....with success.

WebScorpion
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Bronson is dealing so far.Yes, it looks like he's hitting his spots. :thumbup: He could finish the season with 18 wins if he gets this one and his next one against Houston at home. When's the last time we had an 18 game winner?

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
9 up, 9 down.

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
After 3 innings, Reds 1, Padres 0.

Young at 42 pitches, 29 strikes.
Arroyo at 33 pitches, 21 strikes.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Heh, I was at the game in April they're talking about where Arroyo got smacked around by The Pads. It was ugly, to say the least.

But hey, tonight's a better night:

Bronson punches out Chris Young.

Through 3 full: 1-0 Redlegs

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Let's not get nuts.

Are we talking about Ramon Hernandez or Harang here?

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:49 PM
Heh, I was at the game in April they're talking about where Arroyo got smacked around by The Pads. It was ugly, to say the least.

But hey, tonight's a better night:

Bronson punches out Chris Young.

Through 3 full: 1-0 Redlegs

Was that the dreadful Saturday game with the big team meeting afterwards? Or maybe Bailey pitched that game, can't remember.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:49 PM
9 up, 9 down.

:arroyo:

Brutus
09-24-2010, 11:50 PM
Bronson could pitch for 10-12 more years in this ballpark, if you give him a good outfield. That may cover a lot of guys though.

Does he also get to pitch against the home team? lol

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:50 PM
Are we talking about Ramon Hernandez or Harang here?

Could be either, Ramon was definitely checking that area with some concern.

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:50 PM
Sorry George, but that was not a stormtrooper. It was a clone trooper.

reds44
09-24-2010, 11:50 PM
Guess what Gomes did?

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Was that the dreadful Saturday game with the big team meeting afterwards? Or maybe Bailey pitched that game, can't remember.
The game I was at was Friday night.

The Saturday game was pretty bad too though. Wasn't that the one where Stubbs threw the ball into the stands with 2 outs? Oy. But whatever Dusty said to them afterward was magic!

dsmith421
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Do we have a hitting coach?

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Nerd Alert!!

WebScorpion
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
:arroyo:

KK :thumbup:

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Gomes would be better offer taking three straight strikes. That would at least make young throw three pitches....

Brutus
09-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Guess what Gomes did?

Popout, strikeout and error has replaced homer & walk in the three true outcomes.

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:53 PM
How fast did Young throw pre injury?

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:53 PM
Young has to be reaching his pitch count pretty soon here.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:54 PM
Razor pops out to Ludwick, 2 down.

Stubbs up with the bases empty.

mbgrayson
09-24-2010, 11:54 PM
I commend Ramon for not popping out until the 7th pitch...

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:55 PM
How fast did Young throw pre injury?They're making it sound like 95+ but I don't remember him throwing that hard.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:55 PM
Stubbs walks, good eye, kid!

1 on, 2 out for Hanigan The Manigan.

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:56 PM
They're making it sound like 95+ but I don't remember him throwing that hard.

Right, I thought he was a guy that worked in the low 90s with good offspeed stuff.

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:56 PM
54 pitches for Young now. What'd they say earlier, 70 or so for a limit?

Not really sure I want to get into their bullpen though.

VR
09-24-2010, 11:56 PM
Drew Stubbs OpS now at .758

Jonny Gomes OpS now at .757


Discuss.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:57 PM
Drew Stubbs OpS now at .758

Jonny Gomes OpS now at .757


Discuss.

Gomes < Stubbs

QED :cool:

LoganBuck
09-24-2010, 11:57 PM
Drew Stubbs OpS now at .758

Jonny Gomes OpS now at .757


Discuss.

There are two buttons on most elevator doors. One goes up, One goes down.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:58 PM
Right, I thought he was a guy that worked in the low 90s with good offspeed stuff.That's certainly how I remember his arsenal.

The Operator
09-24-2010, 11:59 PM
Gonzalez tried a Little Big League play on Stubbs, almost worked.

I'd buzz him with some chin music.

Meanwhile, Hanigan grounds out and that's that.

OesterPoster
09-24-2010, 11:59 PM
I don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:00 AM
I don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there.

TV guys saying they would just walk Hanigan and pitch to Arroyo.

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:02 AM
I don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there.

Two outs, Pitcher on deck. Stubbs can score from first on most doubles anyway. Stubbs has never seen Young's move before.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:02 AM
He saw plenty of pitches though. If he gets thrown out, you lead off with Hanigan the next inning. Now you have Arroyo leading off.

Kc61
09-25-2010, 12:02 AM
I don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there.

I think Stubbs held because Hanigan might hit a gapper and Stubbs would score.

If he steals, they likely walk Hanigan.

BCubb2003
09-25-2010, 12:03 AM
I wonder if the speediest guy should hit in front of the pitcher. If he's walked, he can use his speed, and the pitcher moves him to third with the top of the order up.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:03 AM
Perfect game gone, Venable reaches.

1 on, none out for Eckstein

Venable takes second base easily.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
Rolen with the web gem. Wow.

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
Wow Rolen, Wow.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
Eckstein is just such an awesome player, look at how gritty that bunt was.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
HOF Eckstein bunts into a diving Rolen's glove, barely misses the double play.

I love me some Scotty Rolen.

1 out, 1 on for Tejada.

edabbs44
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
that had seperated shoulder written all over it

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:04 AM
It's not often you get grass stains on your butt by making a great play.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Eckstein bunts into the air, Rolen dives and catches it, summersaults over, and throws to second trying for the double play, safe at second.

VR
09-25-2010, 12:05 AM
I remember teaching Scotty that move

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:06 AM
I get sick of the Reds announcers and the endless debate of the bunt. Seriously it gets old.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:06 AM
Tejada drives in the runner.

Gomes triple pumped and ultimately threw to second.

1-1 all tied up. 1 out. AGon up.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:06 AM
Adrian lines to Phillips, two down.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:07 AM
Tejada drives in the runner.

Gomes triple pumped and ultimately threw to second.

1-1 all tied up. 1 out. AGon up.

Probably a good thing, considering he'd have air-mailed it to somewhere between 3rd and home.

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:07 AM
Tejada drives in the runner.

Gomes triple pumped and ultimately threw to second.

1-1 all tied up. 1 out. AGon up.

I gave up on watching what Gomes does in left field. When the ball goes out there I look away, because I know that I am going to be mad.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:08 AM
Nice to have Grande back in small doses, but I sure didn't miss his "and we won't know till after the game...." remarks. No George, we won't know ever...cause rarely was it followed up on.

Kc61
09-25-2010, 12:08 AM
I gave up on watching what Gomes does in left field. When the ball goes out there I look away, because I know that I am going to be mad.


Gomes didn't cost that run. No way they were getting him at the plate.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:08 AM
Tejada steals?

They're running ALL OVER Bronson and Hanigan tonight. What's the deal with that?

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:09 AM
We are not blaming Gomes for that run are we?

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:10 AM
We are not blaming Gomes for that run are we?I'm not, was just noting his triple pump. He'd never have thrown the guy out.

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:10 AM
Gomes didn't cost that run. No way they were getting him at the plate.

How should I know, I looked away:D

I just know that Gomes is doing just enough to keep the casual Reds fans entertained, and us 1%ers irked.

edabbs44
09-25-2010, 12:10 AM
We are not blaming Gomes for that run are we?

It's Sept 24th, don't we know yet that every ball hit in his general vicinity and every AB will be overanalyzed?

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:11 AM
I'm not, was just noting his triple pump. He'd never have thrown the guy out.

It just seems some descriptions are used capriciously when Gomes is involved.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:11 AM
8 pitches to Ludwick, #9 coming up.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:12 AM
Ludwick Ks, Bronson throwing well still.

It'd be nice to score some runs off of Young.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:12 AM
After 4 innings, Reds 1, Padres 1.

Young at 59 pitches, 36 strikes.
Arroyo at 50 pitches, 34 strikes.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:14 AM
Stupid ballpark.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:15 AM
3 years for a hitting coach to make a difference George...really? Sorry I'm easily annoyed tonight.

Kc61
09-25-2010, 12:15 AM
Reds seem to be going for the long ball in cavernous stadium.

How about some singles and doubles.

Let's get this race overwith.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:16 AM
3 years for a hitting coach to make a difference George...really? Sorry I'm easy annoyed tonight.I was thinking the same thing. Three years? Looow expectations.

LoganBuck
09-25-2010, 12:16 AM
Reds seem to be going for the long ball in cavernous stadium.

How about some singles and doubles.

Let's get this race overwith.

See the ball, hit the ball.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:17 AM
Brandon has a nice PA and draws a walk.

1 on, 1 out for OC

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:18 AM
Young getting a little wild now...hope they stop swinging.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:20 AM
OC grounds out to Headley, BP to second as he was running on the play/\.

2 down, BP on second for Bruce.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:21 AM
Bruce "hits one pretty good to right" that doesn't make it to the warning track. Out #3.

Through 4.5, still 1-1

Kc61
09-25-2010, 12:22 AM
Reds really miss Votto in a park like this.

Just a series of medium fly balls by most of these Reds hitters.

Votto would be very tough on this Padre pitcher.

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:24 AM
Reds really miss Votto in a park like this.

Just a series of medium fly balls by most of these Reds hitters.

Votto would be very tough on this Padre pitcher.
I would have liked to have seen what Yonder could do against him. Do we not like the kids defense? :dunno:

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:25 AM
The Reds are just like any other team.. Hard to sustain success without their best player.

Hopefully Votto comes back and the story changes.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:25 AM
Grande talking about how great Matt Stairs looks. :)

...As Stairs drops a single into LF.

1 on, nobody out for Torrealba

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:25 AM
Holy God Gomes.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Gomes in this ballpark is a disaster.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:26 AM
That should have been caught. Ouch.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Someone has to catch that.

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Gomes in any ballpark is a disaster.
Fixed.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Chris just blamed it on Stubbs. Gomes would have dove if Stubbs hadn't made it over that close, apparently.

Brutus
09-25-2010, 12:27 AM
With the bullpen the Padres have, this game is probably over if the Reds give up any runs here.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:27 AM
1st and 3rd, one out

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:28 AM
Chris just blamed it on Stubbs. Gomes would have dove if Stubbs hadn't made it over that close, apparently.

I agree that Stubbs running in front of Gomes kept Gomes from catching that. Clearly. If Gomes runs harder in, they collide.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:28 AM
I agree that Stubbs running in front of Gomes kept Gomes from catching that. Clearly. If Gomes runs harder in, they collide.

If Gomes could read a fly ball he is under the ball anyway. Stubbs is playing two positions with Gomes out there.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:30 AM
Sac fly brings in the runner, 2-1 Padres.

Runner on first, 2 out.

Venable punches one through, 1st and second with two outs.

Bronson's wheels are falling off.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:30 AM
Bronson against LH pitchers is just scary. If the Reds play the Phillies this could get ugly.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:32 AM
With the bullpen the Padres have, this game is probably over if the Reds give up any runs here.

I say the Reds get at least 2 off the pen tonight.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:32 AM
Grande's love for guys like Eckstein is unending.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:33 AM
Just got home. Any news on when Votto will be back?

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:34 AM
Eckstein even looks like a smarmy little turd up there.

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:34 AM
This game is about 1 inning from being over. It's a shame, because this was our best pitching matchup of the series. Just being realistic. We are playing right into the strength of the Padres tonight.

Brutus
09-25-2010, 12:34 AM
I say the Reds get at least 2 off the pen tonight.

I certainly hope that you're right, but fully expect that you're wrong.

:)

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:34 AM
Oh man. The hall of famer Eckstein made an out, and George almost cried.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:35 AM
Eckstein hits it to the vacuum at 3B who steps on the bag for the force, inning over.

After 5 full, 2-1 bad guys

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:35 AM
This game is about 1 inning from being over. It's a shame, because this was our best pitching matchup of the series. Just being realistic. We are playing right into the strength of the Padres tonight.

The Reds aren't good enough to win games without Joey Votto.. It's that simple. We had to be underdogs going into the game tonight.

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:36 AM
Don't the Reds have a winning record without Votto this year?

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:37 AM
Don't the Reds have a winning record without Votto this year?

Sure. If you expect Cairo to hit .650 the rest of the year that's on you. The Reds are just like every other team. The Padres and Cardinals aren't going to win consistently without Gonzalez or Pujols.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:37 AM
This game is about 1 inning from being over. It's a shame, because this was our best pitching matchup of the series. Just being realistic. We are playing right into the strength of the Padres tonight.

I'm not sure what we could be doing differently. Votto can't play. Arroyo's slop facilitates SD's running game, as does their never ending cavalcade of anonymous speedy guys. Their ballpark has eaten two surefire HRs at GABP plus another possible homer. The only thing Dusty could do differently is put someone else in LF, but Heisey is a complete mess at the plate (I would still argue that the tire fire that is Jonny Gomes is worse, but I see the point).

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:38 AM
Sure. If you expect Cairo to hit .650 the rest of the year that's on you. The Reds are just like every other team. The Padres and Cardinals aren't going to win consistently without Gonzalez or Pujols.
Uh yeah, the Reds are clearly a better team with Votto. For the long haul, they need him in the lineup.

But the Reds have handled themselves just fine when Joey has been out all season.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:38 AM
Rolen lines a basehit into right field.

1 on for Gomes.

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:38 AM
The Reds aren't good enough to win games without Joey Votto.. It's that simple. We had to be underdogs going into the game tonight.Why is everyone so down on them tonight? Sure, the Padres are a quality team, but they began this month by losing ten in a row...7 of them were here at home. They can be beaten even without Joey Votto. :)

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
Are you serious? That just happened.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
Holy crap.

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
That was special right there.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
Some crazy stuff just went down there.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
Hahahahaha

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
Bronson against LH pitchers is just scary. If the Reds play the Phillies this could get ugly.

If the Reds play the Phillies, how can they not start Wood at least once when he nearly pitched a perfect game against them in their own ballpark? I mean, I think that should definately enter the discussion.

Red in Chicago
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
jonny with a "monster" hit

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:39 AM
I already had a posting ready to go for ripping into Gomes swinging at the 1st pitch and popping up again. I had to delete it all.

guttle11
09-25-2010, 12:40 AM
The heck?

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:40 AM
No way that should be called a hit

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:40 AM
I bet Alonso can play better 'D' than that. :ughmamoru

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
This sick sob Webb throws 97 with crazy movement too. It is insane.

Red in Chicago
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
No way that should be called a hit

they changed it

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
This guy has some wicked movement on every pitch. The catcher has no idea where they're going.

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
We gotta get these dudes in.

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
Rolen should have gone more towards 2nd on that. He got lucky

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
they changed it

Of course, gotta protect that vaunted bullpen's ERA. :cool:

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:41 AM
The Padres bullpen is full of gas.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:42 AM
HAHAHAHAHA

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:42 AM
Yes. Tie game.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:42 AM
Wow. They're really putting on a spectacle tonight.

2-2, none out

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
Why barehand that? It's Ramon!

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
This is sweet.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
Rolen should have gone more towards 2nd on that. He got lucky

Wasn't the pitcher covering first...If he was, Rolen would have been a dead duck.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
Remember those games last week when the Reds were scorching line drives right at defenders? Well...

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GDu8u7coxl0/SdBbddRvtXI/AAAAAAAABQc/Wa9F8JnE6p4/s400/circus-tent.gif

Red in Chicago
09-25-2010, 12:43 AM
did he realize ramon was running down the line...hardly "boot scootin'" it down

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Please bunt.

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Please bunt.

Nahh, HR

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Looks like a tough guy to bunt on. His ball is moving all over.

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:45 AM
What if it gets to Arroyo? Do they pinch hit?

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:45 AM
Looks like a tough guy to bunt on. His ball is moving all over.
Yea, that'd be tough to square up.

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:46 AM
What if it gets to Arroyo? Do they pinch hit?

Good question. Probably not. He's a good hitter

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:46 AM
Stubbs had no shot.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:46 AM
Stubbs goes down swinging. 1 down.

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:46 AM
Their bullpen is baseball pornography.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:46 AM
Makes you wonder why he ever sees a fastball.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:47 AM
Their bullpen is baseball pornography.

I thought Griffey's swing was?

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:47 AM
He already had a walk and needed to even out his ratio... ;)

Brutus
09-25-2010, 12:48 AM
I thought Griffey's swing was?

They're both bittersweet lust

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:48 AM
I would let Bronson hit. As good as Webb's stuff is, he is struggling with command tonight.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:48 AM
They're both bittersweet lustWhat type of literature is Willy Taveras? :cool:

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:48 AM
Nah, let Votto pinch hit....

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:49 AM
The Pads have been bouncing this guy back and forth from AAA?

Mario-Rijo
09-25-2010, 12:49 AM
I still don't know why Gomes didn't take 3rd on that Ramon sky high bouncer.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:49 AM
I still don't know why Gomes didn't take 3rd on that Ramon sky high bouncer.

Agreed. He should have been running on the hit like Rolen was.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:50 AM
I still don't know why Gomes didn't take 3rd on that Ramon sky high bouncer.

I'd like to know why Gomes hasn't found the cure for cancer yet myself.

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:50 AM
The Pads have been bouncing this guy back and forth from AAA?Looks like he's got about a 50/50 chance of throwing a strike...

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:50 AM
I'd like to know why Gomes hasn't found the cure for cancer yet myself.

Because it's not hovering 100 feet in the air over second base?

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:50 AM
Eckstein fielded that ball in the baseline. Why not Ray Fosse that guy there?

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:51 AM
Francisco up.

And no, George, Bronson HAS NOT gone 6 innings. We're not at home.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:51 AM
This promises to be absolutely comical. Or not, we're going to PH for the PH.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:51 AM
Who now, Valaika, Cairo, Heisey?

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:52 AM
Francisco stands a much better chance against the lefty... unless he is another freak from Goon Island like Webb...

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:52 AM
This promises to be absolutely comical. Or not, we're going to PH for the PH.

Gotta love September rosters.

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:53 AM
I didn't want to see Francisco's all-or-nothing act in this stadium...there's a whole lot more chance for nothing. :D

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:54 AM
Is it me or is that motorcycle commerical so fake...that guy clearly has time to pull out...that motorcycle gets slipped in there with CGI.

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:54 AM
Joey on the bench. If nothing else, he should be considered as a decoy in this ballgame.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:54 AM
Your ace should be able to beat this lineup with 2 runs. I can't say a word about the lineup tonight.

WebScorpion
09-25-2010, 12:56 AM
Your ace should be able to beat this lineup with 2 runs. I can't say a word about the lineup tonight.If he was really an 'Ace', they'd have left him in longer than 70 pitches. He's not and they didn't.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 12:57 AM
Hustlin' Miggy!

reds44
09-25-2010, 12:57 AM
Best. Inning. Ever.

Lead.

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 12:57 AM
Cairo! Hustling down the line.

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:57 AM
What speed!

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
If he was really an 'Ace', they'd have left him in longer than 70 pitches. He's not and they didn't.

I think Dusty is kind of on cruise control and doesn't feel he has to push guys like that at this juncture. It's not without merit as a philosophy. I just don't know that pitch counts are all that important to Arroyo.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
I'll take it! Cairo with blazing speed down the line beats out an infield hit.

3-2 Redlegs

BABIP is a funny thing

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
There's your 2 runs Brutus.

Cedric
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
Best. Inning. Ever.

Lead.

And people don't think baseball is all luck! Come on boys finish them!

CTA513
09-25-2010, 12:58 AM
PadreZone is not happy with this inning.

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 12:59 AM
Ok last time tonight...

Why didn't Gomes score 2 runs on that play?

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 12:59 AM
Is it me or is that motorcycle commerical so fake...that guy clearly has time to pull out...that motorcycle gets slipped in there with CGI.

That motorcycle is going WAY over the speed limit

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 12:59 AM
A nice gapper right now would be sweet. Then, I want to see if the Padres can do anything with Chapman around the late 7th/8th inning...

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 12:59 AM
I say the Reds get at least 2 off the pen tonight.

Bingo....

VR
09-25-2010, 01:00 AM
Best. Inning. Ever.

Lead.

Would love to see Bronson get the W.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 01:01 AM
I say the Reds get at least 2 off the pen tonight.

http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Standard-Coke-Can.gif

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 01:01 AM
Bingo....

Now how our pen does is another story...but I didn't see 2 runs being the death blow that apparently some thought it was.

Brutus
09-25-2010, 01:01 AM
There's your 2 runs Brutus.

You clearly have some kind of voodoo doll you're playing with. I mean two infield singles, a fielder's choice and whatever it was you call the Gomes thing. Admit it. You're a gypsy

OesterPoster
09-25-2010, 01:01 AM
Okay, who was the brainiac earlier claiming that the Reds would score two off the Padres' bullpen?

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 01:01 AM
Bud is managing like LaRussa this inning

Cedric
09-25-2010, 01:02 AM
The Padres have such a horrible lineup. I can't blame Bud for micromanaging.

Phhhl
09-25-2010, 01:03 AM
Bud is managing like LaRussa this inning

This game is 10 x's bigger to the Fathers than it is to the Reds.

dsmith421
09-25-2010, 01:03 AM
Up to the pen now. Need four goose eggs on the board.

Sea Ray
09-25-2010, 01:04 AM
How long's it been since Brandon got a clutch hit?

The Operator
09-25-2010, 01:04 AM
Damn. Phillips fouls out BUT, we get 2 runs and take the lead.

AND, The Padres had to use 3 relievers this inning. So, we got that goin' for us.

3-2 good guy through 5.5.

mbgrayson
09-25-2010, 01:04 AM
This game is 10 x's bigger to the Fathers than it is to the Reds.


Yes, the Padres are under P-R-E-S-S-U-R-E.

reds44
09-25-2010, 01:04 AM
Rhodes/Ondrusek
Chapman
Masset
Cordero

kaldaniels
09-25-2010, 01:04 AM
You clearly have some kind of voodoo doll you're playing with. I mean two infield singles, a fielder's choice and whatever it was you call the Gomes thing. Admit it. You're a gypsy

I just called in a favor to my bookie Knees...he got on the horn with the Pad's dugout...voila.

The Operator
09-25-2010, 01:05 AM
Yes, the Padres are under P-R-E-S-S-U-R-E.Oh you just had to give me this lead-in...

YouTube - Under Pressure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtrEN-YKLBM)