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arkimadee
09-28-2010, 01:32 PM
You know what, call me the biggest idiot on this board, and by gosh I think that would be accurate, but I want the Phillies in the first round. I think the Reds could go up there and win. Yes I know the Reds lost 4 in a row up there. In reality they could have went 1-3 or 2-2 up there. We all know that comeback was a fluke against Leake. Bottom line is, that won't matter.

Here are some of my reasons why:

-The Phillies are prone to going into big offensive slumps. Sure they are whipping up on the NL East pitchers they have seen a thousand times right now. Remember that one week span they went on in May with scoring like 1 or 2 runs.

- The Reds are prone to go into big offensive bursts. If this happened the same time as a Philly slump it would outstanding.

- The Reds have hit Oswalt well this season.

- The Reds are 1-1 against Roy Halliday

- I like the Reds chances more in a 5 game series against the Phillies than a 7 game series.

- The Giants beat the absolute pee out of us when we went out there.

Sure I would love to see the Reds get homefield. If I had to choose playing at SF or playing at Phil, I would take Phil in a heart beat. If we get beat, then so be it. We would then know the Phils were the better team

mroby85
09-28-2010, 01:41 PM
You know what, call me the biggest idiot on this board, and by gosh I think that would be accurate, but I want the Phillies in the first round. I think the Reds could go up there and win. Yes I know the Reds lost 4 in a row up there. In reality they could have went 1-3 or 2-2 up there. We all know that comeback was a fluke against Leake. Bottom line is, that won't matter.

Here are some of my reasons why:

-The Phillies are prone to going into big offensive slumps. Sure they are whipping up on the NL East pitchers they have seen a thousand times right now. Remember that one week span they went on in May with scoring like 1 or 2 runs.

- The Reds are prone to go into big offensive bursts. If this happened the same time as a Philly slump it would outstanding.

- The Reds have hit Oswalt well this season.

- The Reds are 1-1 against Roy Halliday

- I like the Reds chances more in a 5 game series against the Phillies than a 7 game series.

- The Giants beat the absolute pee out of us when we went out there.

Sure I would love to see the Reds get homefield. If I had to choose playing at SF or playing at Phil, I would take Phil in a heart beat. If we get beat, then so be it. We would then know the Phils were the better team

Chase Utley was out, and Roy Oswalt wasnt' there. They weren't playing good baseball at that time, and we still lost all 4 to them. Not saying they couldn't possibly beat them but I would much rather face Atlanta. Preferably not the Giants.

brm7675
09-28-2010, 01:43 PM
They have H2O, I want no part of that until the NLCS if possible.

Natty Redlocks
09-28-2010, 01:52 PM
You know what, call me the biggest idiot on this board, and by gosh I think that would be accurate, but I want the Phillies in the first round. I think the Reds could go up there and win. Yes I know the Reds lost 4 in a row up there. In reality they could have went 1-3 or 2-2 up there. We all know that comeback was a fluke against Leake. Bottom line is, that won't matter.

Here are some of my reasons why:

-The Phillies are prone to going into big offensive slumps. Sure they are whipping up on the NL East pitchers they have seen a thousand times right now. Remember that one week span they went on in May with scoring like 1 or 2 runs.

- The Reds are prone to go into big offensive bursts. If this happened the same time as a Philly slump it would outstanding.

- The Reds have hit Oswalt well this season.

- The Reds are 1-1 against Roy Halliday

- I like the Reds chances more in a 5 game series against the Phillies than a 7 game series.

- The Giants beat the absolute pee out of us when we went out there.

Sure I would love to see the Reds get homefield. If I had to choose playing at SF or playing at Phil, I would take Phil in a heart beat. If we get beat, then so be it. We would then know the Phils were the better team
We already know this. They are built to win it all. The Reds were built to "hopefully contend". Mission accomplished. The Phillies' season will be a failure if they don't at least get to the WS again.

Hopefully, someone like San Diego will spend every last ounce of energy they have somehow, some way, knocking off the best team in the National League, and the Reds will get to play THAT exhausted team in the NLCS (IF they manage to beat the Giants or whomever).

I think that's how the Cards did it in 06.

defender
09-28-2010, 02:06 PM
Philly gets to pick which NLDS schedule they play. They will pick the one that starts first and has 3 days off. They will pitch #1,#2,#3,#1,#2. All on 4 days rest. The other schedule only has 2 days off, and will need 4 starters, unless one goes on 3 days rest. The Giants/Padres will probably need to win on the last weekend and be unalbe to set up their rotation for the playoffs.

corwinator3407
09-28-2010, 02:07 PM
We already know this. They are built to win it all. The Reds were built to "hopefully contend". Mission accomplished. The Phillies' season will be a failure if they don't at least get to the WS again.

Hopefully, someone like San Diego will spend every last ounce of energy they have somehow, some way, knocking off the best team in the National League, and the Reds will get to play THAT exhausted team in the NLCS (IF they manage to beat the Giants or whomever).

I think that's how the Cards did it in 06.

I like this idea better. Give me the Braves/Giants

UPRedsFan
09-28-2010, 02:07 PM
Remember that thread about "due"?

Phils has won about 11 in a row. They've been on a roll. What does that mean for them? The Reds are crawling to the finish line. What does that mean for us? "Due" could happen against the Phils.

But I have to say I'm rooting for us to play Atlanta or SF/SD at home.

Stray
09-28-2010, 02:10 PM
If we're going to get to the World Series we're more than likely going to have to beat them anyway, so I get the thinking. I also agree that I like our chances against them in a 5 game series a lot more than in a 7 game series.

We also wouldn't be traveling out west, which I like. In a perfect world, I want the Braves in the first round though.

Trace's Daddy
09-28-2010, 02:12 PM
The Phillies are the better team - hopefully we get another team in the first round

arkimadee
09-28-2010, 02:13 PM
I agree with all your points. I would want to play home the first two games, no doubt about that. I guess I should have said that I would prefer playing at Philly than playing out West for the first two games

gmt
09-28-2010, 02:16 PM
We already know this. They are built to win it all. The Reds were built to "hopefully contend". Mission accomplished. The Phillies' season will be a failure if they don't at least get to the WS again.

Hopefully, someone like San Diego will spend every last ounce of energy they have somehow, some way, knocking off the best team in the National League, and the Reds will get to play THAT exhausted team in the NLCS (IF they manage to beat the Giants or whomever).

I think that's how the Cards did it in 06.

Not accurate. The Cardinals (83 wins) beat the Padres (88 wins) in 4 games for the first round. The Mets (97 wins, tied for most in mlb) beat the Dodgers in 3 games. The Mets got an extra day off before playing the Cardinals. The Cardinals beat the Mets in 7 games in the NLCS. The Tigers (95 wins) beat the Yankees in 4 and Oakland in 4. Oakland had an extra day off before facing the Tigers. The Tigers had 5 extra days off before the World Series. In that post season, it was better to have lesser days off than more to rest.

redsfan_12
09-28-2010, 02:27 PM
I agree with all your points. I would want to play home the first two games, no doubt about that. I guess I should have said that I would prefer playing at Philly than playing out West for the first two games

I think I would still rather play @ SF or @ SD than to play @ Philly the 1st round.

gmt
09-29-2010, 11:30 AM
The weekend series between the Giants and Padres and Phillies/Braves will be big in determining playoff seedings. The Padres are in the worst position right now trailing the Braves for the wildcard and the Giants for the West. Their best bet is what they can control but they need to be close enough to the Giants (within 3 games) before their series this weekend.

The Phillies don't need to win anymore. They have home field advantage wrapped up. I don't think they will roll over, but they don't need to push their top 3 pitchers nor play position players who could use some time off. The Braves are in a decent position with their last 3 against the Phils to maybe get a couple wins there.

The Padres need to find a way to beat the Cubs. I see the Braves having the edge to be the wildcard at this point and the Giants finishing with the 2nd best record thereby sending the Reds to Philadelphia for round one. The Reds could win their remaining 5 games, but being a game already behind the Giants in the standings would need the giants to go 3 - 2 to make the Reds the #2 team. The Giants won the season head to head, so a tie means they get 2nd place. So the dilemma is: do you rest your players/pitchers and get ready for whoever or do you continue to push hoping for the 2nd best record and a home field in the NLDS?

brm7675
09-29-2010, 12:12 PM
Okay we are in, we are still unsure if it will be the 2 spot or 3 spot. So over these last few games, WHOM do we root for? It appears like SD is falling apart and may go into SF this weekend with nothing to play for possibly. We know Philly has nothing to play for so does that give Atlanta an edge? Personally i am rooting for the Braves the rest of the way and whomever is playing the Giants...:thumbup:

1990REDS
09-29-2010, 12:15 PM
Okay we are in, we are still unsure if it will be the 2 spot or 3 spot. So over these last few games, WHOM do we root for? It appears like SD is falling apart and may go into SF this weekend with nothing to play for possibly. We know Philly has nothing to play for so does that give Atlanta an edge? Personally i am rooting for the Braves the rest of the way and whomever is playing the Giants...:thumbup:

That's exactly what I'm rooting for.

Natty Redlocks
09-29-2010, 12:45 PM
The weekend series between the Giants and Padres and Phillies/Braves will be big in determining playoff seedings. The Padres are in the worst position right now trailing the Braves for the wildcard and the Giants for the West. Their best bet is what they can control but they need to be close enough to the Giants (within 3 games) before their series this weekend.

The Phillies don't need to win anymore. They have home field advantage wrapped up. I don't think they will roll over, but they don't need to push their top 3 pitchers nor play position players who could use some time off. The Braves are in a decent position with their last 3 against the Phils to maybe get a couple wins there.

The Padres need to find a way to beat the Cubs. I see the Braves having the edge to be the wildcard at this point and the Giants finishing with the 2nd best record thereby sending the Reds to Philadelphia for round one. The Reds could win their remaining 5 games, but being a game already behind the Giants in the standings would need the giants to go 3 - 2 to make the Reds the #2 team. The Giants won the season head to head, so a tie means they get 2nd place. So the dilemma is: do you rest your players/pitchers and get ready for whoever or do you continue to push hoping for the 2nd best record and a home field in the NLDS?

The strength of this team all season has been its depth. It's baffling to me that so many people continue to act like they have to pick between resting people and trying to win. They should push to win every game they can, just like they have all season, while resting people who need it, because there are capable fill-ins available, as we've seen all year.

liminal
09-29-2010, 12:46 PM
Sounds ideal--Giants lose a bunch and we win, so we have the better record, and Braves take the WC.

I'd also settle for one of the West teams to take the WC.

But the first scenario is the ideal.

redsfan_12
09-29-2010, 12:50 PM
Im thinking we should root for SD all the way. I dont look for the Braves to make it thru the weekend because of Philly coming to town. But it is Cox's last home series so who knows...

brm7675
09-29-2010, 01:19 PM
Im thinking we should root for SD all the way. I dont look for the Braves to make it thru the weekend because of Philly coming to town. But it is Cox's last home series so who knows...

What does Philly have to play for, they have the No. 1 seed locked up, they will probably rest starters and if H2O pitches it won't be very many innings I doubt.

Boston Red
09-29-2010, 01:21 PM
Now we have the ultimate Sunday Special lineup, but on a Wednesday. Bloomquist, Miller, Alonso, Francisco, Heisey, etc.

Captain13
09-29-2010, 01:21 PM
I will continue to cheer for the Reds, and let the rest fall where it may.

AWA85
09-29-2010, 04:28 PM
NOW WHAT, you ask??? Well we continue to dominate...err, maybe after tonight's game.

Lineup:

9/29 Reds Lineup
Willie Bloomquist RF
Valaika 2B
Alonso 1B
Francisco 3B
Heisey CF
Nix LF
Janish SS
Corky Miller C
Johnny Cueto P

Stray
09-29-2010, 04:42 PM
Good thread, I was thinking about it earlier today. Should I root for Atlanta to keep winning, as well as us, and SF to lose?

Or for Atlanta to lose, so Philly can take on the wild card, and us at #2 or #3 taking on the West winner.

Personally, I'd love to win the #2 seed and get Atlanta.

KOBasinger
09-29-2010, 04:51 PM
I am just rooting for SF to lose . I have tickets to a concert on the 6th so I'm hoping the Reds can play on the 7th . Plus that puts us against the Phillies in the NLCS which would be exciting:D

New York Red
09-29-2010, 05:30 PM
I'm hoping for any scenario that allows us to avoid the Phils in the first round.

AintlifeGrande
09-29-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm hoping for any scenario that allows us to avoid the Phils in the first round.


This.:thumbup:

mlh1981
09-29-2010, 05:51 PM
NOW WHAT, you ask??? Well we continue to dominate...err, maybe after tonight's game.

Lineup:

9/29 Reds Lineup
Willie Bloomquist RF
Valaika 2B
Alonso 1B
Francisco 3B
Heisey CF
Nix LF
Janish SS
Corky Miller C
Johnny Cueto P

Due to our depth this year, that's still a lineup that could hang with most squads in the NL.

smixsell
09-29-2010, 06:35 PM
I agree with the general tone of your post. While I don't quite WANT the Phils in round 1, I certainly don't mind playing them, and definitely would not break my neck or risk injuring key players trying to get the #2 seed.

1) Philly is totally BEATABLE.

2)It's easier to beat the good teams in round 1 than round 2. The closer eally good teams get to the title, the tougher they are to beat),

3) as big favorites against us there would be way more pressure on the Phils, and way less pressure on us--that makes it easier for the kids to play loose and might even make the lads a bit angry. The media will be writing us off before the series starts, which is always good motivation for a proud team like this year's Reds.

4) We hit power pitching fairly well, and I think the Phils staff is heavy on power pitchers(although I admit I have not seen them often enough to be confident that this recollection is accurate-- help me out folks!)

All in all, I don't mind playing Philly. I don't think our chances are too bad against them.

Krawhitham
09-29-2010, 07:33 PM
Current Reds have a .283 avg VS Halladay
Current Reds have a .290 avg VS Oswalt

Current Phillies have a .048 avg VS Wood
Current Phillies have a .238 avg VS Volquez
Current Phillies have a .224 avg VS Cueto

goreds2
09-29-2010, 09:15 PM
Simply put, we would only have to beat them 3 times.

Maker_84
09-30-2010, 02:14 AM
dont worry ppl, its basically set that were gonna face them

arkimadee
09-30-2010, 10:43 AM
I have this funny feeling that the Reds are gonna shock some people against Philly

texasdave
09-30-2010, 11:11 AM
This team will slap Philly silly.

NYMoose
09-30-2010, 12:23 PM
I've got tickets to game #1 in Philly. Go get'em Reds!!

Krawhitham
09-30-2010, 12:30 PM
I have this funny feeling that the Reds are gonna shock some people against Philly

They were 2-5 in the regular season but lost 3 in extra innings on walk off hits. The bullpen is 1000x better now than in the 1st half

webbbj
09-30-2010, 01:08 PM
is it already a done deal the reds play philly? i looked at the standings and if the reds go 4-0. SD goes 3-1 and SF goes 1-3 then the reds should have 92 wins and they each have 91 wins.

arkimadee
09-30-2010, 01:25 PM
is it already a done deal the reds play philly? i looked at the standings and if the reds go 4-0. SD goes 3-1 and SF goes 1-3 then the reds should have 92 wins and they each have 91 wins.
it's not set in stone, but I'd bet some good money on it if someone wanted too

ol'Sparky
09-30-2010, 02:29 PM
philly scars me for sure .. however we weren't picked to sweep, or even beat the A's in '90 and we all know what happened there !!

and the 1990 world championship belongs to the cincinnati reds !!

Natty Redlocks
09-30-2010, 07:06 PM
I have this funny feeling that the Reds are gonna shock some people against Philly

And score a run?

mckbearcat48
09-30-2010, 07:09 PM
We already know this. They are built to win it all. The Reds were built to "hopefully contend". Mission accomplished. The Phillies' season will be a failure if they don't at least get to the WS again.

Hopefully, someone like San Diego will spend every last ounce of energy they have somehow, some way, knocking off the best team in the National League, and the Reds will get to play THAT exhausted team in the NLCS (IF they manage to beat the Giants or whomever).

I think that's how the Cards did it in 06.

The Cards did it in 06 by hitting ground balls to Tiger pitchers often.

Kingspoint
10-01-2010, 06:53 PM
You can have Philly.

I want nothing to do with them.

Natty Redlocks
10-01-2010, 07:07 PM
Something I haven't heard anyone talk about yet is the fact that one of the best pitchers in baseball over the last decade, Roy Halladay, has never pitched in a playoff game. If I were a Toronto fan who watched him dominate year after year on some pretty good teams, only to lose out again and again to the Yankees/ Red Sox / sometimes Rays, I'd pity the team who he faces, when he finally gets to pitch in the playoffs for the first time. Just a thought.

Also, if game 1 is a day game, as most people are speculating, maybe Arroyo isn't the best choice. Hasn't he had much more success in night games over his career? Just another thought.

Kingspoint
10-01-2010, 07:49 PM
Nobody wants any part of H2O.

Natty Redlocks
10-01-2010, 08:12 PM
Nobody wants any part of H2O.

Hey I like that

Natty Redlocks
10-06-2010, 11:25 PM
Something I haven't heard anyone talk about yet is the fact that one of the best pitchers in baseball over the last decade, Roy Halladay, has never pitched in a playoff game. If I were a Toronto fan who watched him dominate year after year on some pretty good teams, only to lose out again and again to the Yankees/ Red Sox / sometimes Rays, I'd pity the team who he faces, when he finally gets to pitch in the playoffs for the first time. Just a thought.

Also, if game 1 is a day game, as most people are speculating, maybe Arroyo isn't the best choice. Hasn't he had much more success in night games over his career? Just another thought.

Yeah, we shoulda seen this coming. Not only did it not matter who started for the Reds today, it did not matter who Halladay faced. It was just his night, it sucks for the Reds, but it ain't over yet.