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edabbs44
09-29-2010, 04:25 PM
Tonight’s lineup, with all regulars resting after Tuesday’s NL Central clincher:

Bloomquist 9
Valaika 4
Alonso 3
Francisco 5
Heisey 8
Nix 7
Janish 6
Miller 2
Cueto 1

pedro
09-29-2010, 04:28 PM
This lineup is going to score 6+ runs. I can feel it.

RedsManRick
09-29-2010, 04:29 PM
I absolutely love this.

lollipopcurve
09-29-2010, 04:35 PM
Should be a fun one.

Like this move by Dusty!

medford
09-29-2010, 04:36 PM
You know, it would have been interesting if we could have posted this lineup in late April. I think many would have thought "great, another season w/ mulitple injuries and no division race." At least you'd be right about the "no division race" part :)

LawFive
09-29-2010, 04:37 PM
I'm happy for the the regulars, who get a much-deserved night off, AND for the bench guys who get to contribute tonight...but wow. This wouldn't even qualify as a spring training lineup!

membengal
09-29-2010, 04:37 PM
I absolutely love this.

+1.

Get some rest for the regulars and let the kids have a run at it. I think they can win this.

cumberlandreds
09-29-2010, 04:41 PM
Is Rick Sweet managing the game tonight? ;)

Good for the regulars to get a well deserved day off!

Brutus
09-29-2010, 04:42 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "Astros at Bats?"

I'm perfectly OK with this. I'm surprised by it, as Dusty indicated yesterday he wanted to go all in for the 2-seed, but I have no problem with this whatsoever. I may even sit the starters again tomorrow, and then head into the weekend working everyone back in so they don't get too rusty.

LawFive
09-29-2010, 04:42 PM
I bet we see a heavy dose of Maloney, LeCure, and Fisher out of the pen the next couple of days as well. No sense in burning thru Arthur and Masset when they'll be likely called on every game next week.

Reds Freak
09-29-2010, 04:44 PM
I feel bad for these guys. They are just as hungover as the rest of them and they're the ones who have to play. Should be an interesting one to watch!

bucksfan2
09-29-2010, 04:46 PM
I was waiting to see what this lineup would look like. To be honest it does look like a Sept. lineup of the past.

OesterPoster
09-29-2010, 04:57 PM
I bet we see a heavy dose of Maloney, LeCure, and Fisher out of the pen the next couple of days as well. No sense in burning thru Arthur and Masset when they'll be likely called on every game next week.

LeCure has been tweeting about doctor visits, an MRI on something, and a diagnosis of muscle spasms. I haven't seen anything official, but sounds like a back issue.

OesterPoster
09-29-2010, 04:59 PM
I feel bad for these guys. They are just as hungover as the rest of them and they're the ones who have to play. Should be an interesting one to watch!

You think those young guys haven't played a game on a hangover already this year? :D

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 05:03 PM
How is Chris Carpenter going to explain this lineup to his son?

Reds Fanatic
09-29-2010, 05:06 PM
The one player I am really surprised to see in there is Nix. I thought even earlier this week they were saying he was still not in great shape with his ankle injury. Should be an interesting night with this lineup.

Degenerate39
09-29-2010, 05:06 PM
I feel bad for these guys. They are just as hungover as the rest of them and they're the ones who have to play. Should be an interesting one to watch!

Pretty sure Alonso is use to it

membengal
09-29-2010, 05:09 PM
The one player I am really surprised to see in there is Nix. I thought even earlier this week they were saying he was still not in great shape with his ankle injury. Should be an interesting night with this lineup.

True, but I am guessing the Reds need to figure out if they can count on him next week. So, he plays and they see how it goes.

SirFelixCat
09-29-2010, 05:09 PM
No one has mentioned Nix?!? That could potentially be a big deal if he's healthy. (eta: RF did mention that...glad to see him giving it a go!)

And I support this lineup!

durl
09-29-2010, 05:13 PM
OK...I like the lineup. It's nice to see these guys getting a chance to play and have the regulars take a break. But...

The Reds still need to keep winning. I'd rather not have to play Philadelphia in the first round if Atlanta wins the Wild Card.

Reds Freak
09-29-2010, 05:16 PM
You think those young guys haven't played a game on a hangover already this year? :D

Well, you're right. I played with a guy who hit 100 points better hungover than he did sober. That's no joke...

medford
09-29-2010, 05:19 PM
Speaking of Yonder, aside from looking like he'd be a fun guy to party with, Walt said something in his interview w/ Pic last night that made me say "mmm...."

When Pic grabbed walt, his first question was how great the scene was in the locker room. Walt's reply was that he had just run across Yonder and he said he asked Yonder if he was ready for 10 more years of this, to which Yonder replied that he was good for at least 15 years. It probably means nothing, and was just an off the cuff question that Walt had for Yonder and was the first thing he thought of to react to Pic, or perhaps there is a long term approach to have both Joey & Yonder in the lineup for the future.

At least one could hope anyways.

redsmetz
09-29-2010, 05:22 PM
You know, it would have been interesting if we could have posted this lineup in late April. I think many would have thought "great, another season w/ mulitple injuries and no division race." At least you'd be right about the "no division race" part :)

Oh my goodness, this might be the post of the night and game hasn't even started! Good thing I'm alone in my office because I just laughed by head off.

oneupper
09-29-2010, 05:24 PM
Cards won their game with Pujols, Holiday and most of their regulars on the bench.
PJ Walters was the winning pitcher, with seven shutout innings.

Whatever the Cards' scrubs can do, the Reds' scrubs can do better!

Griffey012
09-29-2010, 05:31 PM
I am thinking Dusty may be giving all the regulars a night off at once, and then they will play the remaining games to go after the #2 spot. Instead of sitting a couple guys at a time every game. Personally I like that strategy.

reds44
09-29-2010, 05:41 PM
I expected a lineup like this. I wouldn't even mind another like this tomorrow night, but I'd play the last series like it meant something and get back into a groove heading into the playoffs.

Gonna be fun to watch the kids tonight.

membengal
09-29-2010, 05:42 PM
That's an epic Wii Frisbee Golf tournament that the regulars will be engaged in back in the clubhouse as the game unfolds...

Caveat Emperor
09-29-2010, 05:47 PM
I was kinda expecting these types of lineups for September games back in May.

What I didn't foresee was the reasoning behind it.

Sea Ray
09-29-2010, 05:51 PM
Interesting that Nix is in there. We'll see if he can play LF on that ankle

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 06:17 PM
I understand and support this lineup tonight, but I wonder how the paying fans at GABP will feel?

"Daddy, who is that Bloomquist guy? Where's Joey? Where's Jay? Where's Brandon?"

I imagine there will be 10 or 15 thousand dissapointed fans there tonight...

_Sir_Charles_
09-29-2010, 06:51 PM
Is Rick Sweet managing the game tonight? ;)

Good for the regulars to get a well deserved day off!

You know....that's actually a cool idea. Why not give Dusty the day off too? :O)

Far East
09-29-2010, 06:58 PM
Do you see any significance or not for Yonder to be batting ahead of Fransisco? Was that the sequence at AAA?

Tommyjohn25
09-29-2010, 07:12 PM
How is Chris Carpenter going to explain this lineup to his son?

That just never gets old. :)

Screwball
09-29-2010, 07:35 PM
Speaking of Yonder, aside from looking like he'd be a fun guy to party with, Walt said something in his interview w/ Pic last night that made me say "mmm...."

When Pic grabbed walt, his first question was how great the scene was in the locker room. Walt's reply was that he had just run across Yonder and he said he asked Yonder if he was ready for 10 more years of this, to which Yonder replied that he was good for at least 15 years. It probably means nothing, and was just an off the cuff question that Walt had for Yonder and was the first thing he thought of to react to Pic, or perhaps there is a long term approach to have both Joey & Yonder in the lineup for the future.

At least one could hope anyways.

Actually that was Castellini, not Walt.

I only remember that because I found it rather interesting as well.

paintmered
09-29-2010, 07:36 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "Astros at Bats?"

I like it. Done. :)

paintmered
09-29-2010, 07:42 PM
Let's get the chat (http://www.redszone.com/forums/misc.php?do=flashchat) party started!

Tornon
09-29-2010, 07:53 PM
I'm glad Nix is back & playing now.. we'll need him for a matchup vs. the Phillies

GOYA
09-29-2010, 08:03 PM
I feel like I should be doing PBP tonight. :-)

_Sir_Charles_
09-29-2010, 08:04 PM
I feel like I should be doing PBP tonight. :-)

Hehe. Good point.

Degenerate39
09-29-2010, 08:06 PM
I really don't like the weather man

_Sir_Charles_
09-29-2010, 08:07 PM
Boy, that was fun to hear. "This is WLW, home of the Central Division Champion Cincinnati Reds".

CrackerJack
09-29-2010, 08:10 PM
Fireworks?

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:10 PM
I'll do some PBP.

We are go
Bourgeouis up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:11 PM
8
1 out
Keppinger up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:12 PM
Bourgeois 8
Keppinger 4
Pence 9
Lee 7
Johnson 5
Wallace 3
Sanchez 6
Castro 2
Figueroa 1

2B
Runner on 2nd
1 out
Pence up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:13 PM
Heisey


Nix Bloomquist


Janish Valaika


Francisco Cueto Alonso


Miller

320

_Sir_Charles_
09-29-2010, 08:14 PM
Anybody know why they were doing fireworks prior to the start of the game?

I could hear them clearly when Marty was doing the lineups.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 08:15 PM
Cueto not starting well...

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:15 PM
Ks 2-3
2 out
Runner on 2nd
Lee up

320

Degenerate39
09-29-2010, 08:17 PM
Bruce would've had that

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:17 PM
2B, RBI
2B->H, R/ Keppinger
2 out
Runner on 2nd
Johnson up

SCORE CHANGE: 1-0, Astros

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:18 PM
6-3
3 out
Top of 1st over
Bloomquist up

1-0, Astros

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:21 PM
3
1 out
Valaika up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:24 PM
7
2 out
Alonso up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:26 PM
Ks
3 out
Bottom of 1st over
Wallace up

1-0, Astros

320

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 08:27 PM
Tonight’s lineup, with all regulars resting after Tuesday’s NL Central clincher:

Bloomquist 9
Valaika 4
Alonso 3
Francisco 5
Heisey 8
Nix 7
Janish 6
Miller 2
Cueto 1

Sort of like the Bizzaro-World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bizarro_Jerry)Reds.....

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:29 PM
3U
1 out
Sanchez up

1B
Runner on 1st
1 out
Castro up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:30 PM
DP 3-6-3
DP2 3-6-3 (2)/ Sanchez
3 out
Top of 2nd over
Francisco up

1-0, Astros

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:33 PM
7
1 out
Heisey up

320

kaldaniels
09-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Why does L.A. get shown on the Fox Wildcard graphic...they are 11.5 games out. :rolleyes:

_Sir_Charles_
09-29-2010, 08:35 PM
Why does L.A. get shown on the Fox Wildcard graphic...they are 11.5 games out. :rolleyes:

maybe they hold the tie-breaker :D

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:35 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
1 out
Nix up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:36 PM
SB (2)/ Heisey
Runner on 2nd
1 out
Nix (still) up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:36 PM
Kc
2 out
Runner on 2nd
Janish up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:39 PM
BB
Runners on 1st and 2nd
2 out
Miller up

320

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 08:41 PM
Poor Corky. Loses hit bat on one swing and flies out shortly thereafter. Gonna be a long night...

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:41 PM
7
3 out
Bottom of 2nd over
Figueroa up

1-0, Astros

I'll probably do PBP through the 3rd.

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:44 PM
6-3
1 out
Bourgeois up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:44 PM
3-1
2 out
Keppinger up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:46 PM
4-3
3 out
Top of 3rd over
Cueto up

1-0, Astros

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:49 PM
Ks
1 out
Bloomquist up

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:51 PM
BB
Runner on 1st
1 out
Valaika up

320

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 08:52 PM
Hey 320...feel lonely tonight? Everyone must be hungover:).

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:52 PM
It does seem so.

320

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:53 PM
9
2 out
Runner on 1st
Alonso up

WP
1B->2B/ Bloomquist
Runner on 2nd
2 out
Alonso (still) up

320

reds44
09-29-2010, 08:54 PM
Alonso has been a bit of a dissapointment since coming up. He's had a tough job, but hasn't shown a lot.

Redsfan320
09-29-2010, 08:54 PM
6-3
3 out
Bottom of 3rd over
Pence up

1-0, Astros

I'm out. Later,

320

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 09:03 PM
Alonso has been a bit of a dissapointment since coming up. He's had a tough job, but hasn't shown a lot.He and Francisco both.

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 09:14 PM
He and Francisco both.

Yeah, it would be nice to see them get hot for a few days.

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 09:17 PM
Corky throws out Sanchez to end the inning.

BCubb2003
09-29-2010, 09:19 PM
Good game for Cueto.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 09:46 PM
This is really frustrating and not really fair to Johnny Cueto. A mixture of veterans and kids should have been used so that at least a couple of runs could score. I guess giving away a game was higher on the list than getting that 2nd seed. I know, you have to let the starts recharge, but all at once? :rant over:

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 09:52 PM
Rookies make rookie mistakes.

Griffey012
09-29-2010, 09:53 PM
Hopefully we start seeing some pinch hitters with the game still in reach

reds44
09-29-2010, 09:58 PM
Eh I think Francisco has been fine. Alosno has just been bad lol

Brutus
09-29-2010, 10:05 PM
Francisco is at .260 with 1 homer and 19 k's in 50 AB's. That ain't pretty.

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:06 PM
Holy crap 46 K/ 5 BB

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:09 PM
47 K/5 BB.

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:13 PM
This game doesn't feel real...its just background noise. Lol.

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 10:15 PM
After 7 and a half, Astros 2, Bizarro-Reds 0.

Gotta get some runs boys!

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Slowly but surely, the regulars are coming in....Bruce, Phillips, and Rolen on deck

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:23 PM
We definatley punted tonight.

mbgrayson
09-29-2010, 10:24 PM
We definatley punted tonight.

If the Reds continue to lose, the 'L' ought to go on Cueto's AAA record.

The Operator
09-29-2010, 10:29 PM
Like that they rested the regulars, hate to see Cueto looking at a loss when he pitched so well tonight.

I want no part of Votto moving to LF to make way for Alonso.

Griffey012
09-29-2010, 10:33 PM
Like that they rested the regulars, hate to see Cueto looking at a loss when he pitched so well tonight.

I want no part of Votto moving to LF to make way for Alonso.

What if it makes the team better?

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:35 PM
Maybe tonight is Votto's night...

CTA513
09-29-2010, 10:39 PM
What if it makes the team better?

If Alonso isn't hitting and isn't that good with the glove then its not helping the team.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 10:39 PM
Two nights in a row would be too much.

VR
09-29-2010, 10:41 PM
Just tuning in....but what's the point of resting all your starters if you are going to use them all as late inning replacements? Is it too much to give them a full/true day off?

The Operator
09-29-2010, 10:42 PM
What if it makes the team better?Yonder Alonso at 1B does not make the team better.

edabbs44
09-29-2010, 10:42 PM
Just tuning in....but what's the point of resting all your starters if you are going to use them all as late inning replacements? Is it too much to give them a full/true day off?

Limit injury possibility. Maybe just use them in high leverage situations, like if the game is 7-0 Houston they get the full game off but if the game is in reach, then let them try and get the W.

Degenerate39
09-29-2010, 10:42 PM
Votto will tie it up

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:43 PM
Not tonight.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 10:43 PM
Or not

edabbs44
09-29-2010, 10:43 PM
Yonder Alonso at 1B does not make the team better.

And Joey would probably laugh at them when they start talking LTC.

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:43 PM
I still hate losing.

VR
09-29-2010, 10:44 PM
Limit injury possibility. Maybe just use them in high leverage situations, like if the game is 7-0 Houston they get the full game off but if the game is in reach, then let them try and get the W.

Yeah, not a fan of it. Pick 2/3 guys and give em a real day off. Bringing them in midway may be worse after being cooled down for 2 hours.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 10:44 PM
Just blew the second seed and we will probably face Philadelphia. I do not like the decision at all, but the consensus is that it was the right thing to do. So be it.

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:46 PM
YouTube - Jay Bruce's walkoff HR clinches NL Central Chamionship for Reds (TV and radio call).mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRD9shHrBDc)

The Operator
09-29-2010, 10:46 PM
SF has yet to play, second seed isn't gone yet.

guttle11
09-29-2010, 10:46 PM
May have had a chance to win if stupid Dusty didn't put in all the scrubs in the late innings.

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:48 PM
SF has yet to play, second seed isn't gone yet.
They need to lose tonight for us to have a realistic shot at it.

WVRedsFan
09-29-2010, 10:52 PM
They need to lose tonight for us to have a realistic shot at it.

Yeah. And they're playing the Diamondbacks. Fat chance. Let's just plan on the Phillies and be done with it.

reds44
09-29-2010, 10:53 PM
The Yankees and Rays also lost tonight.

Winning the night after you clinch ain't easy.

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:54 PM
If it's the Phillies....it's the Phillies.

Bring it on.

Matt700wlw
09-29-2010, 10:54 PM
NM

Tornon
09-30-2010, 12:36 AM
We could root for the Padres too couldn't we?

WVRedsFan
09-30-2010, 01:33 AM
We could root for the Padres too couldn't we?Done.

WVRedsFan
09-30-2010, 02:40 AM
Just a final thought to be the contrarian. Tonight Chris V., Yonder and others made mistakes that cost runs. I have no idea why Dusty decided to go with an all AAA lineup, but it may have cost the Reds a chance to avoid the Phillies in the first round. Many have taken the correct attitude and say, "birng on the Phillies," but it seems to me that maybe a little more restraint was appropriate in this situation. And yet we were so giddy in our championship that Dusty and all of forgot the main goal and that was to advance in the playoffs. I said last night that I was satisfied to make the playoffs, but it seems that maybe we should have rethought that immediate emotional thought. Facing the hammers the Phillies have might be a tough assignment. Just a really stupid move IMHO.

Regardless, maybe that's all we get in 2010. Maybe I'm too hard corre and maybe Dusty is a little too much of a "player's manager." Maybe he was right, but I don't agree. Maybe I'm crazy, but the prize was getting to the World Series. Maybe Cueto deservied better. Maybe it's the end already. I find this disgusting. But, like I said, I am a contrarian and maybe a NL Central championship (as FSO played the Bruce homerun over and over) was enough. Giving up is not in my nature, But maybe it is for most folks.

reds44
09-30-2010, 03:01 AM
The Rays and Yankees both lost tonight. It's tough to win the night after you clinch.

_Sir_Charles_
09-30-2010, 08:57 AM
If it's the Phillies....it's the Phillies.

Bring it on.

Exactly. If we play the way we can...we can beat ANYBODY. Getting healthy is more important than seeding.

Nice game from Nix...good to see.

cumberlandreds
09-30-2010, 09:42 AM
The Rays and Yankees both lost tonight. It's tough to win the night after you clinch.

Exactly. Dusty even said this in his postgame. I would say that if all the regulars had played the result would have been exactly the same. I really wouldn't worry about last night. The main goal this season was making the playoffs. Anything more is gravy.