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arkimadee
10-01-2010, 01:47 PM
Well I woke up this morning to an FSN Ohio channel that was not there because of a carriage dispute between FSN Ohio and Dish. I'm so frikin sick of Dish Network. First they don't give me MLB Network. Then they take FSN Ohio away. They suck. I wish I would have never gotten Dish and am switching to Directv very soon. Meanwhile I will probably have to miss the last 3 games of the season and all the postgame on FSN Ohio. Makes me furious!!!

redsfanmia
10-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Well I woke up this morning to an FSN Ohio channel that was not there because of a carriage dispute between FSN Ohio and Dish. I'm so frikin sick of Dish Network. First they don't give me MLB Network. Then they take FSN Ohio away. They suck. I wish I would have never gotten Dish and am switching to Directv very soon. Meanwhile I will probably have to miss the last 3 games of the season and all the postgame on FSN Ohio. Makes me furious!!!

I emailed the ceo and told him if they do not have it back soon I will switch to dirct tv, I know that one customer does not matter much but I had to do it anyway.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2010, 02:04 PM
Call their "loyalty team." Such a thing actually does exist, and they take good care of customers.

The lack of an NFL package hurts Dish but, overall, it is a much better product than Direct TV.

redsfanmia
10-01-2010, 02:43 PM
Call their "loyalty team." Such a thing actually does exist, and they take good care of customers.

The lack of an NFL package hurts Dish but, overall, it is a much better product than Direct TV.


I had Direct TV before and hated it, I prefer Dish but If I can not watch Reds baseball I might as well go back to cable.

Cant Touch This
10-01-2010, 03:00 PM
I've had DirecTV since I moved to Michigan in 2002 and have had a very positive experience. Their customer service is outstanding and I've always been pleased with the product. They are willing to offer promotions and discounts to loyal subscribers to help with monthly costs, as well.

SHAMELESS PLUG: If any of you disgruntled Dish Network folks want to switch to DirecTV, use me as a reference and DirecTV will give each of us $100.

Hey Meat
10-01-2010, 03:34 PM
Well I woke up this morning to an FSN Ohio channel that was not there because of a carriage dispute between FSN Ohio and Dish. I'm so frikin sick of Dish Network. First they don't give me MLB Network. Then they take FSN Ohio away. They suck. I wish I would have never gotten Dish and am switching to Directv very soon. Meanwhile I will probably have to miss the last 3 games of the season and all the postgame on FSN Ohio. Makes me furious!!!

As far as baseball is concerned, you can't beat DirectTV.

brm7675
10-01-2010, 03:40 PM
If there was a ton of games left i would be livid, but with 3 and those 3 having no meaning I can live with it. What bothers me is you can't get out of dish network unless you pay a hefty fine and getting direct TV requires a $200 up front deposit in our area and cable is just way to much.

WestSideBomber
10-01-2010, 04:00 PM
Wow that sucks. I know my family back in Cincinnati will not be happy at all. They have been pondering whether to switch away from Dish, and I think this will be the straw that does it. First now having MLB now not having FSN!

jhiller21
10-01-2010, 04:30 PM
FSN picked a bad time to ask for more money. There's only 3 games left and they'll almost certainly get a deal done before next season starts.

If FSN pulls this 2 months ago I'm definitely switching, now I think I'll wait it out.

redssince75
10-01-2010, 04:38 PM
FSN picked a bad time to ask for more money. There's only 3 games left and they'll almost certainly get a deal done before next season starts.

If FSN pulls this 2 months ago I'm definitely switching, now I think I'll wait it out.

This. Exactly. What is the nature of the dispute?

bshall2105
10-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Does this mean that the game won't be on the sports alternates?

RedLegsToday
10-01-2010, 04:55 PM
I switched to cable from Dish a few months ago. The deal I got was way cheaper for way more channels and I don't have to worry about my dish losing connection whenever it got cloudy out (yes, it didn't even have to rain and I would lose connection). I do miss the Dish DVR though, it is light years better than the cable DVR.

arkimadee
10-01-2010, 04:55 PM
Does this mean that the game won't be on the sports alternates?
yup

minus5
10-01-2010, 05:19 PM
This. Exactly. What is the nature of the dispute?

I just talked to a Dish Rep and they said that Fox Sports demanded a 50% rate increase and has opted to removed their programming during the increase dispute. That is a pretty hefty rate increase

redsfanmia
10-01-2010, 05:27 PM
I just talked to a Dish Rep and they said that Fox Sports demanded a 50% rate increase and has opted to removed their programming during the increase dispute. That is a pretty hefty rate increase

Is that the truth? I have a hard time believing things that giant faceless corporations say to the ham and eggers. I just know that if this is not fixed soon I will be switching to either Dirct Tv or cable.

minus5
10-01-2010, 05:29 PM
He also gave me this link: http://www.jointhefightagainstfox.com/

mckbearcat48
10-01-2010, 06:04 PM
Dish is doing the same thing nationally. In the St. Louis market, the same thing is happening.

redsfanmia
10-01-2010, 06:17 PM
He also gave me this link: http://www.jointhefightagainstfox.com/

Propaganda is all that is.

arkimadee
10-01-2010, 06:40 PM
Dish says Fox is asking for a 50% rate increase. Fox is saying Dish is lying about asking for a 50% increase..

Bottom Line : I DON'T GET REDS BASEBALL THE NEXT 3 DAYS!!!!

jhiller21
10-01-2010, 06:47 PM
The bottom line is Dish is going to have to offer some increased rate or they will lose a lot of customers.

FSN has probably increased in popularity over the last few years. They used to show fishing shows and infomercials half the time, and they are obviously spending a bit more on pre and postgame shows than they used to.

jhiller21
10-01-2010, 06:55 PM
Either way, as long as FSN is back by April I won't miss it. And if Dish is dumb enough not to pony up a little more cash by then, they are going to lose a ton of customers.

HalMorrisRules
10-01-2010, 08:42 PM
I've had DirecTV since I moved to Michigan in 2002 and have had a very positive experience. Their customer service is outstanding and I've always been pleased with the product. They are willing to offer promotions and discounts to loyal subscribers to help with monthly costs, as well.

SHAMELESS PLUG: If any of you disgruntled Dish Network folks want to switch to DirecTV, use me as a reference and DirecTV will give each of us $100.

Pay no attention to the shameless plug above. I will be happy to give you a $100 credit. :D

George Foster
10-01-2010, 08:43 PM
If there was a ton of games left i would be livid, but with 3 and those 3 having no meaning I can live with it. What bothers me is you can't get out of dish network unless you pay a hefty fine and getting direct TV requires a $200 up front deposit in our area and cable is just way to much.

They broke the contract not you...tell them to go to hell. You agreed to the contract with Fox sports Ohio and other Fox sports channels. They do not have these anymore...they broke the contract...

SidneySlicker
10-01-2010, 08:47 PM
They broke the contract not you...tell them to go to hell. You agreed to the contract with Fox sports Ohio and other Fox sports channels. They do not have these anymore...they broke the contract...

Unfortunately, this is not true. They have in the contract something to the effect of "Dish network reserves the right to change it's rates/programming at any time".

George Foster
10-01-2010, 11:34 PM
Unfortunately, this is not true. They have in the contract something to the effect of "Dish network reserves the right to change it's rates/programming at any time".

Then I reserve the right not to pay them. What if there programming went down to 3 channels? Do they have the "right" to charge me for canceling?

I don't roll over. They can send me all the bills they want. I told them they have a week to get this straighten out or I'm changing back to cable. If they come after me I'll take them to small claims court here in my home county. Do you think they will send a lawyer down here to Kentucky? No..they won't show up and I get a judgement against them.

They will get it done.. When I called the very nice lady said that EVERYONE calling was very upset and did not care about the fight between Dish and FOX.

Here is another situation..What if you were A.E. doors and you advertise with FOX. You were told you are going to be in like 1.3 million homes every game night, but now it down to 700,000...I would be mad and want a partial refund from FOX. Both sides are getting hit, and they will work it out.

What if you were in California and wanted to get the big games this weekend against the Giants and Padres?? A bunch of mad fans in California..

Kingspoint
10-02-2010, 02:53 AM
That's not the first network that Dish has "disagreed with" regarding contracts and compensation. There's negatives to every choice when it comes to broadcast viewing, and I guess you just have to go with the one that bothers you the least. For me, I tend to switch every few years between Dish, DirecTV and Cable, and now I'm ready to go to FIOS. Whoever's giving me the best deal seems to work for me. I'd draw the line if I couldn't get FSN-Ohio if I lived in that area.

Prf15
10-02-2010, 03:01 AM
I hate Dish. First it was the Extra Innings and MLB Network thing, which is still not resolved. Now this happens. Not only are the FSN channels gone but they also pulled MSG and MSG Plus.

Kingspoint
10-02-2010, 03:08 AM
FYI, Dish Network is the last major media that's not owned by one of the large conglomerates.

Dish Network is "the little guy". Rupert Murdoch was blocked by Congress from doing a takeover purchase of Dish Network 3 years ago because of one reason only...Congress did not want to give him another pawn in his empire (he already owns DirecTV).

Comcast is owned by Clear Channel (owners of more than 60% of all radio stations and TV stations in the United States).

I'm sure you're familiar with what Disney owns (they are larger than Murdoch or Clear Channel).

All three of these are smaller than the company that owns the BBC.

Only 2 years ago, "The Wall Street Journal" was the last major newspaper to be independently owned. The "children" finally sold out, took the money and ran.

Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, are fighting to keep the internet out of the hands of these corporate giants under the "SaveTheInternet" campaign. If Congress loses out, these Giants will be able to control the bandwidth of each website, and thus decide who gets more access and less access into people's lives....a filtering method that would limit free speech. (They call it, "Net Neutrality".) If a site is unwanted by one of these Giants, then that site gets poor bandwidth when people try to download it onto their internet.

Dish Network is the very last of these independent media outlets. Don't be too harsh with them. If you notice, they have a couple of very unrestricted free speech channels up in the 8000's/9000's that feature programs you'll never find on DirecTV, Cable, or FIOS.

I'm using Cable myself at the moment, have never worked for Dish Network, but I do give money to the "SaveTheInternet" campaign and have written my Congressmen in support of it.

http://www.savetheinternet.com/

CN-RED
10-02-2010, 12:09 PM
I called dish yesterday and cancelled. I have went with dish for several years and this was the last straw! I'm having direct tv installed on monday and now I will have the NFL ticket the rest of the year!

Kingspoint
10-02-2010, 08:41 PM
Rupert Murdoch owns DirecTV.

Rupert Murdoch owns FoxSports.

Rupert Murdoch was denied by Congress the ability to purchase Dish Network about 3 years ago because he already owns too many media outlets (and this scheduling/programming issue is a perfect example of why they didn't want him owning another).

Rupert Murdoch would now like to hurt Dish Network and have you switch to DirecTV.

Rupert Murdoch is to blame for this, not Dish Network.

Newman4
10-02-2010, 08:55 PM
I would be with Dish instead of DirecTV except for the fact that they do not offer MLB Network. Dish is a better buy for what you get IF they only had MLB Network. The deal with FSN is quite disturbing. Cable is not available in my area so DirecTV has me by the you know whats.

arkimadee
10-02-2010, 08:58 PM
Rupert Murdoch owns DirecTV.

Rupert Murdoch owns FoxSports.

Rupert Murdoch was denied by Congress the ability to purchase Dish Network about 3 years ago because he already owns too many media outlets (and this scheduling/programming issue is a perfect example of why they didn't want him owning another).

Rupert Murdoch would now like to hurt Dish Network and have you switch to DirecTV.

Rupert Murdoch is to blame for this, not Dish Network.
well then.. stupid Robert Murdoch.. I don't really give a crap I just want my Reds baseball back but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen this season

Kingspoint
10-02-2010, 10:36 PM
If you have FIOS in your area, that's a great option.

aldotcs
10-02-2010, 11:50 PM
I have not heard good things about Dish. We have DirectTV and I've been pretty happy about it. Sorry you guys lost FSN at the worst time!

Rockermann
10-03-2010, 12:21 PM
Rupert Murdoch is to blame for this, not Dish Network.

Go Rupert Murdoch [exclaims the loyal DirecTV customer]!

Fullboat
10-04-2010, 06:44 PM
Go Rupert Murdoch [exclaims the loyal DirecTV customer]!

This I don't get,if Dish goes under(Direct TV's main competitor)guess which loyal
Direct TV customer gets the shaft.:p:

Rockermann
10-04-2010, 06:53 PM
This I don't get,if Dish goes under(Direct TV's main competitor)guess which loyal
Direct TV customer gets the shaft.:p:

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Just kidding all around. But, I've had both Dish and DirecTV. DirecTV wins hands down.

redsfanmia
10-04-2010, 08:34 PM
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Just kidding all around. But, I've had both Dish and DirecTV. DirecTV wins hands down.

That's like your opinion man. I have had both and I think Dish wins hands down, sans this current Fox issue.

arkimadee
10-05-2010, 04:02 PM
It's official.. Canceled my Dish and switching to Directv

Trace's Daddy
10-05-2010, 06:09 PM
How's the DVR with DirecTV vs Dish? (I have Dish)

Rockermann
10-05-2010, 06:34 PM
How's the DVR with DirecTV vs Dish? (I have Dish)

To be honest, I didn't like DirecTV's DVR when I first switched from my Tivo. But, over time with new software and hardware models, they have gotten much better. I'm very happy with mine now. It has all the 'trick' features and pretty much always records when and where it's supposed to. Obviously, that's the most important thing.

Kingspoint
10-05-2010, 08:19 PM
How's the DVR with DirecTV vs Dish? (I have Dish)

Dish has the best DVR of all of cable vs satellite. I haven't tried Verizon FIOS, yet.

mckbearcat48
10-05-2010, 11:35 PM
AT & T U-Verse has a killer DVR. I know they were selling it out of Columbus, but not sure who can all get it.