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cumberlandreds
10-04-2010, 04:21 PM
Ken Macha was let go today by the Brewers. Also over the weekend the Mets fired Miniya and Jerry Manual. The firing season is here.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ApIEW1nZYfIQpPw3qto1VmsRvLYF?slug=ap-brewers-macha (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ApIEW1nZYfIQpPw3qto1VmsRvLYF?slug=ap-brewers-macha)

WVRed
10-04-2010, 04:33 PM
Definitely Black Monday.

I'll be shocked if Macha lands anywhere but Pittsburgh. The Pirates fired Russell today and Macha is from there.

cumberlandreds
10-04-2010, 04:50 PM
I missed the Russell firing. The Pirates need to fire their owner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AuBtMpNehx8uVs02o1UNHdA5nYcB?slug=ap-pirates-russellfired

Matt700wlw
10-04-2010, 04:53 PM
Isn't it nice not to be part of this?

bucksfan2
10-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Isn't it nice not to be part of this?

I think some people may disagree :p:

One job I am really interested to see how it plays out is the Cubs job. I don't watch enough Yankee baseball to fully understand the dislike for Girrardi. If he doesn't advance past the first round I think he may get canned or even look to leave. And to be honest the Yankees will always spend money but their core continues to get old, and Jeter will get a big time deal, it may be time to get out of dodge when it comes to the Yankees.

NJReds
10-04-2010, 05:01 PM
One job I am really interested to see how it plays out is the Cubs job. I don't watch enough Yankee baseball to fully understand the dislike for Girrardi. If he doesn't advance past the first round I think he may get canned or even look to leave. And to be honest the Yankees will always spend money but their core continues to get old, and Jeter will get a big time deal, it may be time to get out of dodge when it comes to the Yankees.

I think the Yankees will try to keep Girardi. The only speculation I've heard here is that the Cubs may go hard after Girardi, and that it's a job that he would has interest in taking.

Although I've also heard from one of the talking heads on Baseball Tonight that the Cubs camp is split on Sandberg and Girardi.

WVRed
10-04-2010, 05:02 PM
I think the Yankees will try to keep Girardi. The only speculation I've heard here is that the Cubs may go hard after Girardi, and that it's a job that he would has interest in taking.

Although I've also heard from one of the talking heads on Baseball Tonight that the Cubs camp is split on Sandberg and Girardi.

Fredi Gonzalez was named the favorite several months ago, but I believe he will end up in Atlanta once they are finished.

Endorsed by Bobby Cox.

traderumor
10-04-2010, 05:14 PM
I think the Yankees will try to keep Girardi. The only speculation I've heard here is that the Cubs may go hard after Girardi, and that it's a job that he would has interest in taking.

Although I've also heard from one of the talking heads on Baseball Tonight that the Cubs camp is split on Sandberg and Girardi.The interest in the Cubs over the Yankees has to be personal preference. To willingly go from a program with blank checks and actually know how to spend it to one with the historical problems that the Cubs have had makes that insight curious.

WVRed
10-04-2010, 05:22 PM
The interest in the Cubs over the Yankees has to be personal preference. To willingly go from a program with blank checks and actually know how to spend it to one with the historical problems that the Cubs have had makes that insight curious.

IIRC, Girardi's wife is from Chicago and they have a home there. He left the Yankees when he was a player to play for the Cubs, but I think the circumstances were different.

Chip R
10-04-2010, 05:31 PM
IIRC, Girardi's wife is from Chicago and they have a home there. He left the Yankees when he was a player to play for the Cubs, but I think the circumstances were different.


I think Girardi's actually from Chicago and he went to Northwestern. Other than that, I can't see the appeal of the Cubs over the Yankees.

marcshoe
10-04-2010, 05:32 PM
I understand that next year the Pirates are going to let Captain Morgan have a go at managing the team.

Jpup
10-04-2010, 05:44 PM
IIRC, Girardi's wife is from Chicago and they have a home there. He left the Yankees when he was a player to play for the Cubs, but I think the circumstances were different.

Are you sure? I thought he left the Cubs to play for the Yankees.

bucksfan2
10-04-2010, 05:51 PM
I think Girardi's actually from Chicago and he went to Northwestern. Other than that, I can't see the appeal of the Cubs over the Yankees.

Here is the thing with the Cubs. They are one of the most storied franchises in all of baseball. They have been longing for a championship for over a century. The pressure that goes along with the job would be minimal compared to what Girardi faces while managing the Yankees. It would be a place where if he did somehow manage to win a championship he would be remembered forever. As it is in New York he will go down as #27.

Oh Chicago is a pretty cool city itself. If you grew up in the midwest, went to school in the midwest, and played in the midwest, the mecca of coaching may be Chicago and not NY.

redsmetz
10-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Are you sure? I thought he left the Cubs to play for the Yankees.

He started with the Cubs, went to the Rockies, then to the Yankees, back to the Cubs and a final year in St. Louis. Years in order were 4, 3, 4, 3 & 1 (with a total of 7 years with the Cubs).

Chip is right that he went to Northwestern and he's from Peoria himself. All of this according to baseball-reference.com.

JaxRed
10-04-2010, 05:59 PM
The Pirates fired their AA skipper also for not following team standards. BTW.... he won the AA Championship. Fill in your own punch lines .......

Sea Ray
10-04-2010, 06:03 PM
I think Girardi's actually from Chicago and he went to Northwestern. Other than that, I can't see the appeal of the Cubs over the Yankees.

Fame. The manager that takes the Cubs to the World Series will be immortalized

marcshoe
10-04-2010, 06:30 PM
The Pirates fired their AA skipper also for not following team standards. BTW.... he won the AA Championship. Fill in your own punch lines .......

I just read this article (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10273/1091579-100.stm) about why he was fired, and man! I think I understand a little better why the Pirates are in the shape they're in. Enforce strict regulations on the petty things and get rid of one guy in the organization who seems to be doing something positive.

Looks a lot like the last school system I worked in.

muddie
10-04-2010, 06:40 PM
The Pirates fired their AA skipper also for not following team standards. BTW.... he won the AA Championship. Fill in your own punch lines .......

I saw this the other day. I have a little less sympathy for the Pirates situation today.

WMR
10-04-2010, 06:47 PM
Man the Pirates are DUMB. I would feel sorry for them, but they're mostly Stealer fans anyway.

WVRed
10-04-2010, 07:23 PM
I just read this article (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10273/1091579-100.stm) about why he was fired, and man! I think I understand a little better why the Pirates are in the shape they're in. Enforce strict regulations on the petty things and get rid of one guy in the organization who seems to be doing something positive.

Looks a lot like the last school system I worked in.

I hope the Reds could make room for Walbeck somewhere on staff. I'm sure somebody else would jump on that though.

I never understood the Russell hire to begin with.

WVRed
10-04-2010, 07:39 PM
Predictions:

Braves: Fredi Gonzalez
Brewers: Dale Sveum or Don Money, maybe Willie Randolph
Pirates: Ken Macha
Mets: Wally Backman
Cardinals(?): Jose Oquendo. If they decide to make a change.

Cubs: My wildcard. Either Tony LaRussa if let go or Joe Torre to a one year deal with a team option for a second. Ryne Sandberg joins the team as a manager in waiting while learning under a seasoned veteran manager. Torre would probably be a better fit than LaRussa since he did it with Mattingly.

Chip R
10-04-2010, 09:51 PM
Fame. The manager that takes the Cubs to the World Series will be immortalized

More than likely another in a long line of failures.

Look at Torre. He was an awful manager with the Mets, did OK in ATL and mediocre in StL. Before the Yankees job, he was just another in a bunch of recycled managers. Even the NYC papers called him Clueless Joe (Much like the Cincinnati papers called Sparky Anderson, Sparky Who?) What happens? Torre wins a few World Series and he's a hero. He's going into the HOF.

I could understand Girardi wanting to take the Cubs job if he weren't currently employed by the Yankees. If the Yankees were a sinking ship, I could also understand. But if he goes to CHI, he's going into a situation where there are new owners and you don't know how - or if - they are going to spend. Jim Hendry may be on his way out if they don't improve. Sure there's pressure in NYC but he's already won one World Series and George is dead and Hal Steinbrenner doesn't seem to be as mercurial as George. If Girardi really wants the Cubs job that bad, I would think it'll open up in a few years - again.

Unassisted
11-01-2010, 01:19 PM
Bobby Valentine is rumored to be the frontrunner for this job.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/10/valentine-leading-candidate-for-brewers.html


according to this tweet (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/29299751060) from SI's Jon Heyman, Valentine is now the leading candidate to manage the Brewers.

Heyman informs us that Valentine is leading the way, followed by Joey Cora, Bob Melvin, and Ron Roenicke, in that order.Heyman goes on to say that Valentine may want more money than the Brewers are willing to pay, and probably would command far more than anyone on that list. No surprise there. ;)

The full article from Heyman (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/10/31/brewers.valentine/) claims:


Valentine looked like he was about to get the Marlins job in the summer before an interview with a Marlins executive caused the team to back off. The Marlins wound up offering Valentine the managing job this offseason, anyway, but this time he turned them down.

He was making nearly $8 million a season with the Mets and $4 million with the Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan.

Sea Ray
11-01-2010, 04:19 PM
How many times has Bobby Valentine been the front runner for a managers job? This is beginning to remind me of Rick Majerus and NCAA basketball rumors about 5-10 years ago

Reds Fanatic
11-02-2010, 05:39 PM
It now looks like Ron Roenicke the Angels bench coach will be the new Brewers manager.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5756877

Unassisted
11-02-2010, 06:11 PM
It now looks like Ron Roenicke the Angels bench coach will be the new Brewers manager.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5756877 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5756877)
It's nearly official.... http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101102&content_id=15962866

savafan
11-02-2010, 11:58 PM
It now looks like Ron Roenicke the Angels bench coach will be the new Brewers manager.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5756877

Wasn't he a former Red, 1988 maybe, at least in the minors. I seem to remember him in one of the programs around the late 80's.

camisadelgolf
11-03-2010, 11:08 AM
Wasn't he a former Red, 1988 maybe, at least in the minors. I seem to remember him in one of the programs around the late 80's.
That's exactly correct. He played for the Reds' Major League and AAA teams in '88.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/roeniro01.shtml