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SidneySlicker
10-06-2010, 10:53 AM
My question is what kind of strikezone Halladay will get and will Volquez get the same? It seems that as time goes on the top pitchers just get more and more calls their way. I think this has as much to do with Halladays dominance as anything these days.

mr. red
10-06-2010, 11:15 AM
Hirschbeck is behind the plate for game 1. I believe he is normally consistent.

Reds
10-06-2010, 11:26 AM
Hirschbeck used to get accused of having a wide strike zone, haven't heard anything about this in years however.

arkimadee
10-06-2010, 11:27 AM
thank god it's not joe west

Eric the Red
10-06-2010, 11:08 PM
My question is what kind of strikezone Halladay will get and will Volquez get the same? It seems that as time goes on the top pitchers just get more and more calls their way. I think this has as much to do with Halladays dominance as anything these days.

Very foresightul of you, SidneySlicker, to start a topic on this subject at 9:53 am. To answer your question, no I don't think Hirshbeck's zone was truly the same but Volquez was all over the place and didn't hit the corners like Halladay did. When Roy missed, he barely missed and baseball's history tells us those types of pitchers (ie Maddux Glavine) get typically get those calls. Wood, Ondrusek and Bray all seemed to get a fair zone and very similar to that of Halladay as they were around the dish a lot more than Edinson.

markymark69
10-06-2010, 11:28 PM
My question is what kind of strikezone Halladay will get and will Volquez get the same? It seems that as time goes on the top pitchers just get more and more calls their way. I think this has as much to do with Halladays dominance as anything these days.

Good point. Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine are going to the Hall of Fame because the got strikes called that were eight inches outside.

markymark69
10-06-2010, 11:29 PM
My question is what kind of strikezone Halladay will get and will Volquez get the same? It seems that as time goes on the top pitchers just get more and more calls their way. I think this has as much to do with Halladays dominance as anything these days.

Good point. Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine are going to the Hall of Fame because they got strikes called that were eight inches outside. Halladay gets a pretty healthy zone, but he is good however.

Caveman Techie
10-07-2010, 09:51 AM
The homeplate umpire was horrible last night. He had a different strike zone for Halladay than for EV. Once EV left the game and after Rolen got rung up by that horrible call that was 4 inches off the plate he got better.

I forget which batter it was in the second inning, but EV threw 5 strikes to the guy and only got one of them called a strike. Halladay came up in the next inning and hit the exact same spots as EV did and got them called strikes.

*Still even with all that though I think Halladay pitched a damn fine game and deserved the win.

Todd Gack
10-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Good point. Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine are going to the Hall of Fame because they got strikes called that were eight inches outside. Halladay gets a pretty healthy zone, but he is good however.

Maddux and Glaving are going to the HOF becauese they were GREAT pitchers, not because of some strike zone. Remember, they were young once too and had to establish themselves.

Wiggidy
10-07-2010, 03:39 PM
The homeplate umpire was horrible last night. He had a different strike zone for Halladay than for EV. Once EV left the game and after Rolen got rung up by that horrible call that was 4 inches off the plate he got better.

I forget which batter it was in the second inning, but EV threw 5 strikes to the guy and only got one of them called a strike. Halladay came up in the next inning and hit the exact same spots as EV did and got them called strikes.

*Still even with all that though I think Halladay pitched a damn fine game and deserved the win.


People will write people off as whiners that say this but EV was hitting the corner of that blue zone. He got screwed imho.

Halladay pitched pretty well but EV could have thrown a no hitter with that strike zone.

Red Rover
10-07-2010, 03:48 PM
EV may have been throwing strikes, but not hitting the glove where Hernandez was setup. If you hit your target, in the strike zone or not, it is usually called a strike. EV had very little control and couldn't hit his target. Roy and the Reds bullpen hit their targets.

Wiggidy
10-07-2010, 03:52 PM
EV may have been throwing strikes, but not hitting the glove where Hernandez was setup. If you hit your target, in the strike zone or not, it is usually called a strike. EV had very little control and couldn't hit his target. Roy and the Reds bullpen hit their targets.


If he's throwing strikes it shouldn't matter. Travis Wood was throwing balls that were farther out of the strike zone than EV and getting strikes called. Seems fishy, I was actually surprised nobody talked about how huge the strike zone was for Halladay and then the reds bullpen. EV was throwing the ball closer to the strike zone than any of the other guys that pitched for the Reds after him but was getting no calls.

They should just let the computer call the game if they're going to put it up there the whole game. If not then get it off my screen so I don't have to get so angry with how unfairly it's being called.

Red Rover
10-07-2010, 05:35 PM
I agree, a strike is a strike, but if you are as wild as EV was then you're not going to get those close calls. Pitcher with great contol, like Halladay, get those calls. If you are able to go back and watch EV, you will notice that Hernandez had to reach across his body many times to make a catch on a pitch that should have been called a strike.

I think Hernandez moves around to much anyways, but that's another story.