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Redsfan320
10-18-2010, 10:16 PM
What's the lamest Fall Classic you remember? One where you said, "These are the two best teams. Wow." Just curious.

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Brutus
10-18-2010, 10:21 PM
I don't think I've ever felt that way about any series, as I know it's not about being the best teams sometimes.

But the White Sox - Astros came the closest for me.

The Operator
10-18-2010, 10:26 PM
The Cardinals making their appearance in 2006 boasting 83 wins in the regular season didn't sit very well with me.

And then they won it, proving anything can happen in the postseason.

Spitball
10-18-2010, 10:44 PM
I believe it was 1973 when the Mets made the World Series against Oakland with a record just over .500. They had beaten the Reds in the NLCS when Dan Driessen proved he was definitely not a third baseman.

Unassisted
10-18-2010, 10:54 PM
The '82 series comes to mind for me. I wasn't impressed with the Brewers. Harvey's Wallbangers seemed like a bunch of slobs with too much facial hair and too few unheralded starters. They were a real contrast to the Cards, who had better pitching and loads of speed.

kaldaniels
10-18-2010, 11:27 PM
Good question. I have no facts to back this up, but I remember thinking, "What are the Angels and Giants doing in the World Series?"

Joseph
10-18-2010, 11:32 PM
Much like Kal above mentioned, I have no real basis, but I recall the 87 series and thinking to myself....these aren't very exciting teams. Twins vs Cards.

westofyou
10-18-2010, 11:35 PM
1987 Cardinals vs Twins - Twins really?
1973 Mets vs A's - Both beat better teams in the playoffs.

pedro
10-19-2010, 12:14 AM
Much like Kal above mentioned, I have no real basis, but I recall the 87 series and thinking to myself....these aren't very exciting teams. Twins vs Cards.

That was a great Series IMO.

For me, I have a hard time even accepting Tampa bay as a real team.

Johnny Footstool
10-19-2010, 01:02 AM
The lamest was 1994.

As for the lamest matchup, I vote for the ChiSox/Houston yawner.


Good question. I have no facts to back this up, but I remember thinking, "What are the Angels and Giants doing in the World Series?"

That was actually a pretty good series.

kaldaniels
10-19-2010, 01:10 AM
The lamest was 1994.

As for the lamest matchup, I vote for the ChiSox/Houston yawner.



That was actually a pretty good series.

Yeah great series but I guess I was answering it as to the matchup itself, not the series.

George Anderson
10-19-2010, 01:23 AM
The '82 series comes to mind for me. I wasn't impressed with the Brewers. Harvey's Wallbangers seemed like a bunch of slobs with too much facial hair and too few unheralded starters. They were a real contrast to the Cards, who had better pitching and loads of speed.

Oh I disagree with this. The 82' Brewers had 3 HOF'ers (Yount, Molitor and Fingers). 3 guys that hit 30 plus HR's when that number actually meant something (Thomas, Oglivie and Cooper). They also had Ted Simmons behind the plate.
The pitching staff with Pete Vuckovich and Mike Caldwell as the two top starters was ok at best. But all in all I thought they were very worthy of playing in the WS.

Ron Madden
10-19-2010, 03:09 AM
For me it was 1973 Mets vs A's for obvious reasons. :(

Dan
10-19-2010, 07:05 AM
That was a great Series IMO.

For me, I have a hard time even accepting Tampa bay as a real team.

I'm with you. The 1987 Series was a pretty good one. That Twins team was solid, with Puckett, Hrbek, Gaetti, Brunansky, Viola, Blyleven, Rearden.

RFS62
10-19-2010, 07:30 AM
1973 - That year still hurts.

Roy Tucker
10-19-2010, 08:17 AM
1973 - That year still hurts.

Yep, me too. But hindsight says Seaver pitching twice in a 5 game series is deadly.

Recently, the 2007 Red Sox-Rockies (aka deer in the headlights) series. The Rockies? Please.

15fan
10-19-2010, 09:02 AM
Take a look at the 1998 Padres (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/1998.shtml) roster and explain to me how they got to the World Series.

westofyou
10-19-2010, 09:39 AM
I'm with you. The 1987 Series was a pretty good one. That Twins team was solid, with Puckett, Hrbek, Gaetti, Brunansky, Viola, Blyleven, Rearden.

Great series, the Twins had a negative run differential that season, negative... good group of guys who found their stride, but still they allowed more than they got.

Jpup
10-19-2010, 09:43 AM
Take a look at the 1998 Padres (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/1998.shtml) roster and explain to me how they got to the World Series.

Steroids?

They had some pretty good guys and some Hall of Famers too. Tony Gwynn is one of the best hitters ever and Trevor Hoffman is top 5 as a closer. Caminiti was juicing, Greg Vaughn hit 50 homers, and Kevin Brown was pretty good. Not a bad ball club.

oneupper
10-19-2010, 10:53 AM
1973. Then the Mets and A's played seven games of perhaps the worst postseason baseball I've ever seen. 19 errors (I looked that up) and misplays galore. Charlie Finley even kicked out one of his second basemen for making an error (or two or three). Sloppy, sloppy.

redsmetz
10-19-2010, 01:03 PM
1973. Then the Mets and A's played seven games of perhaps the worst postseason baseball I've ever seen. 19 errors (I looked that up) and misplays galore. Charlie Finley even kicked out one of his second basemen for making an error (or two or three). Sloppy, sloppy.

I was in my one and only year in the seminary in 1973, one that just happen to be in the Detroit area, so I was sorely disappointed when the Reds lost to the Mets (and had to listen to the ribbing from a couple of fellow students from the NY/NJ areas) and then Detroit lost, so I couldn't even go to a game while there. I'd really looked forward to a Reds/Tigers series.

15fan
10-19-2010, 01:51 PM
Steroids?

They had some pretty good guys and some Hall of Famers too. Tony Gwynn is one of the best hitters ever and Trevor Hoffman is top 5 as a closer. Caminiti was juicing, Greg Vaughn hit 50 homers, and Kevin Brown was pretty good. Not a bad ball club.

I agree. Brown/Gwynn/Hoffman is a solid trio. I forgot Steve Finley was on that team, too.

After Brown, though, look at the rest of their rotation: Andy Ashby, Joey Hamilton, Sterling Hitchcock and Mark Langston. How on earth did that rotation not get absolutely hammered during the height of the steroid era?

westofyou
10-19-2010, 02:12 PM
I agree. Brown/Gwynn/Hoffman is a solid trio. I forgot Steve Finley was on that team, too.

After Brown, though, look at the rest of their rotation: Andy Ashby, Joey Hamilton, Sterling Hitchcock and Mark Langston. How on earth did that rotation not get absolutely hammered during the height of the steroid era?

They played in the pacific air, unbalanced schedule, got hot.

dfs
10-19-2010, 02:25 PM
Take a look at the 1998 Padres (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/1998.shtml) roster and explain to me how they got to the World Series.

Kevin Brown is exactly the type of #1 that shuts teams down in the playoffs. He ended his career 70 games over 500. That's pretty good.
Andy Ashby had a Storm Davis type year.
The Hoffman fellow was pretty good.
Ya got your Roid filled Camaniti, your hall of famer in Gwynn and gregg vaughn swatting 50 homers.

They went 5 games over their pythagrian and then got booted in the series byt the Yanks.

TheNext44
10-19-2010, 03:04 PM
Easily the most boring World Series in my l lifetime was in 1981 - Dodgers over the Yanks in 6 games.

My two least favorite teams of all time, right after a big strike that resulted in a bizarre playoff scenario that left the Reds out of the playoffs, even though they had the best record in the majors. Plus the games were boring, most decided early.

cumberlandreds
10-19-2010, 05:11 PM
1988 Dodgers were one of the poorest World Champions I had seen. I just didn't think they were that good. Like the 2006 Cards they got hot at the right time.
1973 was a tough one. But the Mets had some really good pitching. Seaver,Koosman and I think Jon Matlack were in that Met rotation.

OnBaseMachine
10-19-2010, 06:02 PM
The Cardinals making their appearance in 2006 boasting 83 wins in the regular season didn't sit very well with me.

And then they won it, proving anything can happen in the postseason.

Agreed. The 2006 Cardinals were very average and somehow won the World Series. They lucked out when Pedro Martinez missed the NLCS due to injury. If he pitches, the Mets more than likely beat the Cardinals and advance to the World Series.

RedsBaron
10-20-2010, 07:17 AM
1973 - That year still hurts.
Yep. My two greatest disappoitnemnts as a Reds fan were the 1972 World Series loss to the A's and the 1973 NLCS loss to the Mets.

savafan
10-20-2010, 05:32 PM
1989... after the earthquake did anyone really remember there was still baseball?

RichRed
10-20-2010, 05:51 PM
1989... after the earthquake did anyone really remember there was still baseball?

This is mine too. I didn't care who won when the Series started (a Bay Area series did nothing for me, having no connection to the region), and then the earthquake overshadowed the actual games.

MrCinatit
10-20-2010, 05:55 PM
I was pretty apathetic towards the 1998, 1999 and 2000 World Series'.

westofyou
10-20-2010, 06:03 PM
1989... after the earthquake did anyone really remember there was still baseball?

I did, I was psyched for that series it was an anti-climax though, we needed it to be good, but it wasn't.

Cedric
10-20-2010, 08:41 PM
I did, I was psyched for that series it was an anti-climax though, we needed it to be good, but it wasn't.

That has to be the worst WS I have ever watched. I couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

westofyou
10-20-2010, 09:39 PM
That has to be the worst WS I have ever watched. I couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

Imagine what it felt like with destroyed buildings all over your neighborhood.