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NorrisHopper30
11-03-2010, 08:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/news/story?id=5760892

Interesting...does he not like Boston or does he want more money/long term deal?

Hustleman
11-03-2010, 08:48 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/news/story?id=5760892

Interesting...does he not like Boston or does he want more money/long term deal?

he's just looking to get a long term deal after that great season. i wouldnt be surprised to see him re-sign in boston

1990REDS
11-03-2010, 10:03 PM
Also kind of a weak FA class this year which means someone may be willing to overpay for him. I think he knows this and probably thinks he can get more than his option, either from Boston or through the open market.

davereds24
11-03-2010, 10:37 PM
Boston is really his only option for the money he wants.

Vottomatic
11-04-2010, 12:29 AM
I think it was a dumb move on his part. Atleast I hope it was, and I hope nobody offers him as much.

Captain13
11-04-2010, 09:49 AM
I think it was a dumb move on his part. Atleast I hope it was, and I hope nobody offers him as much.

Why? What do have against Mr. Beltre?

lonewolf371
11-04-2010, 09:57 AM
Well he just had a ridiculously good season. I can understand trying to crank more money out of the Sox, especially with their concerns about being able to move Youkilis back to 3rd. However, Beltre's career numbers suggest an impending regression, so I'm not sure this was the best move on his part.

DirtyBaker
11-04-2010, 04:11 PM
You can't really blame him trying to cash in on his breakout season. Seattle paid him $11.4M - $13.4M / year. He's gonna get $12M + because he's coming off a career year, a 2 time gold glover, and a silver slugger.

Vottomatic
11-04-2010, 06:18 PM
I doubt he's offered more than a 2-year contract. He's shown in the past that he is pretty mediocre after he signs the big contract.

davereds24
11-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Seattle was a bad fit for him but even there he put up a couple decent years. If you look at other 3b contracts he should get at least 1yr/9.1mil or a multiyear deal maybe 2yrs/16mil or 3yr/21mil.

scott91575
11-05-2010, 01:41 AM
Well he just had a ridiculously good season. I can understand trying to crank more money out of the Sox, especially with their concerns about being able to move Youkilis back to 3rd. However, Beltre's career numbers suggest an impending regression, so I'm not sure this was the best move on his part.

Even if his offense regresses some, he is still arguably the best defensive 3rd baseman in baseball.

It's a great move on his part. Last year's numbers are not going to change. He is not going to get hurt. He is worth more than $10 million a year, and worth a longer term contract. Turning down the option was a no brainer.

Don't forget, he also gets a $1 million buyout. So if he gets over $9 million for one year, he is ahead of the game. He will get that easily.

Kingspoint
11-05-2010, 04:44 AM
Nobody's going to give him $7M to play. Stupid.

Kingspoint
11-05-2010, 04:45 AM
Even if his offense regresses some, he is still arguably the best defensive 3rd baseman in baseball.



How much worse can it get?

One good year Offensively out of five is an aberation.

3rd base isn't a position where having a great glove/no bat is an asset.

scott91575
11-05-2010, 03:25 PM
Nobody's going to give him $7M to play. Stupid.


How much worse can it get?

One good year Offensively out of five is an aberation.

3rd base isn't a position where having a great glove/no bat is an asset.

Are you saying he is not worth even $7 million?

Alright, to further my point....

A 31 year old gold glove level 3B who just OPS'd over 900 will get more than $7 million a year, and will get more than 1 year. Heck, even if he was at his career average this past year he would be getting over $7 million a year.

Who is better than him? ARod, Longoria, Wright, and Zimmerman. That is about it.

Zimmerman will be making about $12 million per year for the next 3 (that is low because part of his contract was done in arbitration).

Longoria is cheap, but he also signed a long term contract very early in his career.

David Wright is $15 million a year for the next 3, and his defense is terrible.

ARod, well, that is a ridiculous contract.

Another player who would be considered better over the long run would be Aramis Ramirez. He is making $15-16 million a year on a long term deal.

If you want a direct comparison, look to Michael Young. Very similar career OPS. At a similar age he got 5 years for $80 million, and Young had no where near the year Beltre just had when he signed that deal. Young was more consistent prior to his contract, but we are talking about $16 million per vs. $7 million. He was playing SS at the time, but still we are talking about a huge difference in money.

Beltre is worth more way more than $7 million per year on the open market. Heck, even if he hit his career average OPS last year, it would put him 8th in the league. I don't think you realize what a weak hitting position 3rd base has become. There are over 20 teams that would love to have a guy hit like he has for his career (not just last year), and pretty much every team would love his glove.

Heck, Brandon Inge, who is awful, just got $11.5 million for two years.

TeamSelig
11-05-2010, 03:35 PM
I think he'll get about 4/38

lonewolf371
11-05-2010, 03:46 PM
Even if his offense regresses some, he is still arguably the best defensive 3rd baseman in baseball.

It's a great move on his part. Last year's numbers are not going to change. He is not going to get hurt. He is worth more than $10 million a year, and worth a longer term contract. Turning down the option was a no brainer.

Don't forget, he also gets a $1 million buyout. So if he gets over $9 million for one year, he is ahead of the game. He will get that easily.
Good point about defense. You're right, he probably will end up making more money.

davereds24
11-05-2010, 04:31 PM
Nobody's going to give him $7M to play. Stupid.

lol, the small market reds gave Rolen more than that. Beltre will get his cash.

nmculbreth
11-05-2010, 06:23 PM
Nobody's going to give him $7M to play. Stupid.

I'll take the over.

He signed a 1 year / $10mil deal with Boston after an injury plagued season where he played in 111 games and posted a .265 / .304 / .379 / .683 stat line. What makes you think that he's going have to take a pay cut after hitting .321 / .365 / .553 / .919?

I'd venture he'll end up getting a deal for 3 or 4 years and end up getting paid $10mil+ per season.

Hustleman
11-05-2010, 11:33 PM
I'll take the over.

He signed a 1 year / $10mil deal with Boston after an injury plagued season where he played in 111 games and posted a .265 / .304 / .379 / .683 stat line. What makes you think that he's going have to take a pay cut after hitting .321 / .365 / .553 / .919?

I'd venture he'll end up getting a deal for 3 or 4 years and end up getting paid $10mil+ per season.

agreed. he's just 31 and has been pretty durable over his career. i'll guess somebody gets him with an extra year and he gets 5 years/63 mil

Vottomatic
11-06-2010, 02:19 PM
Why? What do have against Mr. Beltre?

When we were kids, he called me a mean name. :p:

Captain13
11-09-2010, 01:14 PM
When we were kids, he called me a mean name. :p:
:thumbup: Well played, sir.