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Redsfan320
11-09-2010, 10:58 AM
On the year with Cin and Mil: .206/.250/.268/.518, 20 H, 0 HR, 5 RBI, 4 SB, 0 CS, 2 2B, 2 3B, 34 K, 6 BB, in 97 AB, 106 PA, 45 G

Not that we got anything out of Edmonds, but I'm not shedding any tears after finding these numbers. "Potential" is the only thing left for Chris "Made of glass" Dickerson.

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wolfboy
11-09-2010, 11:30 AM
That's a pretty small sample size. Also, for what it's worth, Edmonds wasn't exactly "made of titanium" (unless you count the screws holding him together).

camisadelgolf
11-09-2010, 11:42 AM
Wow, brutal. 2010 may prove to be just a down year related to his injuries. Then again, he's not far from his 30s, and he'll probably be eligible for arbitration after the upcoming season, so even if he rebounds in 2011, I won't be losing any sleep over the trade.

medford
11-09-2010, 12:01 PM
Tough year, obviously Braun is tied down in left, hart in right (don't know how long his deal is) and I assume the guy who ran down those balls in CF late in the year (can't remember his name) has a strong hold on the CF spot in Milwaukee for the next couple of seasons and beyond. I'm guessing there's not a lot of strong support for Dickerson and its either put up (in ST) or face the waiver wire or demotion if he still has options left.

I've still got the ESPN highlights of Edmonds taking a pitcher the opposite way (can't remember if it went yard or was just a loud out), and back in the dugout showing Bruce exactly what he did and what to look for, then the following highlight showing Bruce (in his next at bat) hitting one yard the opposite way off the same pitcher. Perhaps only Bruce could answer, but the benifits of that trade could go well beyond Edmonds actual playing time on the field.

I don't know if he still plans to retire, but if so, hopefully Walt is in his ear about coming to ST next year for a few weeks to work w/ Bruce and perhaps a few other lefties.

Redsfan320
11-09-2010, 12:09 PM
That's a pretty small sample size. Also, for what it's worth, Edmonds wasn't exactly "made of titanium" (unless you count the screws holding him together).

:laugh:, yeah. My point was the injuries are probably a big part of the poor contribution, however, it's not like that's an excuse, you know what I'm saying? Even if he could put up good #s when not injured, if he's always injured , I still don't want him.


the guy who ran down those balls in CF late in the year (can't remember his name)

Lorenzo (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11557855) Cain (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cainlo01.shtml)

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wolfboy
11-09-2010, 01:06 PM
:laugh:, yeah. My point was the injuries are probably a big part of the poor contribution, however, it's not like that's an excuse, you know what I'm saying? Even if he could put up good #s when not injured, if he's always injured , I still don't want him.



Lorenzo (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11557855) Cain (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cainlo01.shtml)

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I agree. I'm not losing sleep over it either.

icehole3
11-09-2010, 02:41 PM
I've still got the ESPN highlights of Edmonds taking a pitcher the opposite way (can't remember if it went yard or was just a loud out), and back in the dugout showing Bruce exactly what he did and what to look for, then the following highlight showing Bruce (in his next at bat) hitting one yard the opposite way off the same pitcher. Perhaps only Bruce could answer, but the benifits of that trade could go well beyond Edmonds actual playing time on the field.

I don't know if he still plans to retire, but if so, hopefully Walt is in his ear about coming to ST next year for a few weeks to work w/ Bruce and perhaps a few other lefties.

saw that too, he also IMO helped Stubbs in his development, I'd love to see him in ST

kpresidente
11-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Bill James projection for Dickerson next year is pretty good...271/.363/.422

Combined with his great defense, I wouldn't mind that in LF next year.

MikeS21
11-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Love to see Edmonds come back in 2011 as a 4th/5th OF. It would be a huge help to Bruce and Stubbs.

Redsfan320
11-09-2010, 03:37 PM
Bill James projection for Dickerson next year is pretty good...271/.363/.422

Combined with his great defense, I wouldn't mind that in LF next year.

Yeah... that's a projection. What I posted were the actual numbers from this year.


Love to see Edmonds come back in 2011 as a floating instructor/ coach type. It would be a huge help to Bruce and Stubbs.

Fixed that for you. :D

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osuceltic
11-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Bill James projection for Dickerson next year is pretty good...271/.363/.422

Combined with his great defense, I wouldn't mind that in LF next year.

Kick the ball, Charlie Brown ... I'll hold it for you ...

Griffey012
11-09-2010, 05:03 PM
Bill James projection for Dickerson next year is pretty good...271/.363/.422

Combined with his great defense, I wouldn't mind that in LF next year.

Did he also predict him to be injures for 75% of the season. Laynce Nix could probably be able to give us that production for 45 games also.

I had already forgotten about Dickerson until this thread was started. And after this thread dies I will once again quickly forget about him.

mbgrayson
11-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Bill James projection for Dickerson next year is pretty good...271/.363/.422

Combined with his great defense, I wouldn't mind that in LF next year.

A year ago, this is what Bill James projected for C.Dick in 2010:
.276/.324/.427 for a .751 OPS.

I would like to know why Bill James's system would project a guy to have a .324 OBP in 2010, then, when his actual OBP for 2010 is .250, project that the following year his OBP will jump up 40 points from the already too high 2010 projection to .363? Why in the world will Dickerson's OBP go up 110 points next season? The 2011 projection for Dickerson is baseless.

WVRedsFan
11-09-2010, 09:50 PM
A year ago, this is what Bill James projected for C.Dick in 2010:
.276/.324/.427 for a .751 OPS.

I would like to know why Bill James's system would project a guy to have a .324 OBP in 2010, then, when his actual OBP for 2010 is .250, project that the following year his OBP will jump up 40 points from the already too high 2010 projection to .363? Why in the world will Dickerson's OBP go up 110 points next season? The 2011 projection for Dickerson is baseless.Potential. Some players retire having potential. Potential and $3 will buy you a coffee at Starbucks. Maybe,

HokieRed
11-09-2010, 10:11 PM
Never seen the potential, never been a fan. One thing is consistent with CD right across his whole minor league and major league career: he strikes out about 1 in 3 AB and has very little power (61 HR in 2257 minor league AB's, 8 in 454 ML AB's).

WebScorpion
11-11-2010, 02:13 AM
Why all the hate for Dickerson? He is what he has always been: A nice 4th outfielder when he's healthy. He's a hard worker and seems to get all he can out of the talent he's been given. A good guy to have on the bench and I'm sure he'll improve a bit as he ages. I wish him well, but don't really pine for his return. :dunno: