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1990REDS
11-17-2010, 07:24 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5816234


Horrible story. As usual, some drunk has to ruin it for everyone.

Brutus
11-17-2010, 07:50 PM
He was just showing the boy good tackling form. Given the NFL's reputation now of head hunting, it's time to instill proper technique on young kids.

:D

Reds4Life
11-17-2010, 07:56 PM
It doesn't suprise me.

I used to have Bengals season tickets, but I don't now. I have seen all kinds of stuff at NFL games, including weapons being pulled on people. A lot of the "fans" are falling down drunk by noon, and looking to cause trouble with anyone they can find. I don't think I would take a kid to an NFL game anymore.

WMR
11-17-2010, 08:02 PM
I would NEVER take my child (if I had one) to an NFL game. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend going to most NFL venues these days if you can't handle yourself or are not with someone who can (goes double for away venues).

The idiocy at NFL games these days is off the charts...

SunDeck
11-17-2010, 10:26 PM
I went to Bengals games for almost thirty years and loved it for probably the first twenty five, but the experience has really deteriorated in my opinion. Too many people who can't stop at one...or six beers, too much pregame partying. It's like people don't really even go to watch the game, but rather to get hammered and spend quality time with their friends throwing up and starting fights.

WVRed
11-17-2010, 11:00 PM
I went to Bengals games for almost thirty years and loved it for probably the first twenty five, but the experience has really deteriorated in my opinion. Too many people who can't stop at one...or six beers, too much pregame partying. It's like people don't really even go to watch the game, but rather to get hammered and spend quality time with their friends throwing up and starting fights.

I would probably drink too if I had to watch embarrassing football.

Just sayin'.

Redsfaithful
11-18-2010, 05:43 AM
Part of me wonders if on a very long horizon the NFL isn't going to have trouble selling out games. The short schedule makes each game a big event, but it's a better experience watching at home now with HDTV, especially not having to deal with drunken idiots.

College games are a lot of fun to go to, but I haven't been to a Bengals game in probably 8-9 years and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Chip R
11-18-2010, 10:35 AM
I would NEVER take my child (if I had one) to an NFL game. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend going to most NFL venues these days if you can't handle yourself or are not with someone who can (goes double for away venues).

The idiocy at NFL games these days is off the charts...


I agree but kids who are into the NFL and have a favorite team love to go to these games. My niece is a Chiefs fan and she would just love to go to K.C. to see a game there.

I don't know what they can do about it but I agree with Redsfaithful in that the NFL is going to have a problem with people going to games because of this.

Eric_the_Red
11-18-2010, 01:18 PM
I've been to 2 Colts games in the last 2 years, and have yet to see the drunken behavior I've witnessed at Bengals games. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it is much more rare, in my experience.

Yachtzee
11-18-2010, 03:23 PM
The Muni Lot at Browns Stadium is particularly bad. A lot of people who park there are hard core "Dawg Pound" idiots who get there at the crack of dawn to tailgate and get wasted. Of course, the media loves to go there for pre-game shots of "dedicated Browns fans having a good time." They rarely cover the post-game activities, where drunken idiots pick fights with visiting fans and between themselves. I would recommend out-of-town fans avoiding the Muni Lot at all costs. Of course, fans should never have to worry about where they park or whether they need to watch their back after the game. Unfortunately, it's a league-wide problem and I'm sure something like this could have happened at the Meadowlands or Lincoln Financial Field or Heinz Field, even PBS. I think the league needs to look into some of the measures English soccer teams took to weed out the hooligans. Maybe taking pictures of those engaging in offensive behavior and hitting them with a lifetime ban from games would curb this kind of stuff. I don't think banning alcohol will happen (too much money from Budweiser) nor will it stop it (too easy to get blasted pre-game). But as it is I have said I won't take my boys to an NFL game until they're at least 16.

Hoosier Red
11-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Part of me wonders if on a very long horizon the NFL isn't going to have trouble selling out games. The short schedule makes each game a big event, but it's a better experience watching at home now with HDTV, especially not having to deal with drunken idiots.

College games are a lot of fun to go to, but I haven't been to a Bengals game in probably 8-9 years and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Perhaps on the very long time frame. But there's a lot of drinking at college football games too, and a lot more tailgating and they still have no problem bringing in crowds. Of course Big Ten stadiums don't serve beer once you're in the stadium.(Or is that just Indiana schools?) That may make a difference in the behavior of the crowd.

Yachtzee
11-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Perhaps on the very long time frame. But there's a lot of drinking at college football games too, and a lot more tailgating and they still have no problem bringing in crowds. Of course Big Ten stadiums don't serve beer once you're in the stadium.(Or is that just Indiana schools?) That may make a difference in the behavior of the crowd.

I think the college game differs in that many of the fans could face expulsion from school for inappropriate behavior if they get too rowdy.

Hoosier Red
11-18-2010, 04:00 PM
I've been to 2 Colts games in the last 2 years, and have yet to see the drunken behavior I've witnessed at Bengals games. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it is much more rare, in my experience.

I think a lot of that has to do with the availability of parking right by the stadium. Outside of the south side of the stadium, generally people are walking a few blocks to get to the game(or so it would appear). IMO, the Bengals didn't have as many behavior problems when games were at Riverfront because the majority of the fans were walking across the bridge over Ft. Washington Way to get to the games. Those fans generally weren't tailgating either because they were parking in garages, and not in lots right next to the stadium.

LoganBuck
11-18-2010, 05:07 PM
"Drunk Browns Fan" is that like saying "wet water".

:D

Chip R
11-18-2010, 05:12 PM
If someone ever gets seriously hurt or killed I wouldn't be surprised if that fan doesn't file suit against the NFL and/or the team for being unable to control their fans. Kind of like where if a drunk leaves a bar, the bar could be held liable for any accidents the drunk causes on the way home.

SunDeck
11-18-2010, 06:42 PM
I would probably drink too if I had to watch embarrassing football.

Just sayin'.

Touché

reds1869
11-18-2010, 08:12 PM
I've been to 2 Colts games in the last 2 years, and have yet to see the drunken behavior I've witnessed at Bengals games. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it is much more rare, in my experience.

The experience in Indianapolis is wonderful. I've never had a bad time at either dome. The fans are friendly and polite outside of a few knuckleheads; that equation is reversed in Cincinnati. I'm going to my second Bengals game of the year Sunday and I know I have a 50/50 chance of enjoying myself without some drunk picking a fight with me or my friends and/or puking on us.

When I lived in Cleveland it was even worse than Cincinnati. I attended the infamous "beer bottle game" against Jacksonville. It is the only time in my life where I sincerely feared for my safety at a sporting event.

WVRed
11-18-2010, 09:14 PM
Part of me wonders if on a very long horizon the NFL isn't going to have trouble selling out games. The short schedule makes each game a big event, but it's a better experience watching at home now with HDTV, especially not having to deal with drunken idiots.

College games are a lot of fun to go to, but I haven't been to a Bengals game in probably 8-9 years and I don't see that changing any time soon.

I don't think its going to be a problem.

Even with the alcoholic experience, if it looks like a game isn't going to sell out, it gets blacked out in the local area. Once the announcement is made, people either buy tickets or companies purchase an allotment to give to employees.

And of course, if the game does get blacked out, then HDTV really doesn't help (unless you live outside of the blackout restricted area).

The blackout policy is why teams with horrendous owners (aka the Bengals) can still make a profit even when their team is in the toilet. If the Reds have a bad season, fan support drops and attendance plummets. Not the case with the NFL.

redsfandan
11-19-2010, 07:00 AM
If someone ever gets seriously hurt or killed I wouldn't be surprised if that fan doesn't file suit against the NFL and/or the team for being unable to control their fans. Kind of like where if a drunk leaves a bar, the bar could be held liable for any accidents the drunk causes on the way home.

Yep, it's just a question of when it will happen.

traderumor
11-20-2010, 01:10 PM
Hmmm, Indy is a winning, well run organization and has a good fan environment. Cincy and Cleveland, two poorly run, losing organizations with drunk fan problems. I see a pattern here. Its the old "tone at the top" dynamic at work.

Reds4Life
11-21-2010, 11:15 AM
Hmmm, Indy is a winning, well run organization and has a good fan environment. Cincy and Cleveland, two poorly run, losing organizations with drunk fan problems. I see a pattern here. Its the old "tone at the top" dynamic at work.

Not always the case. Steelers and Ravens, even when they are winning, still have the horrible, drunken, moronic, fan issues.