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Red in Atl
11-21-2010, 06:23 PM
Let's give thanks that we have an owner that knows he knows nothing about baseball, besides being a fan. And because of this, he hired Walt, a man who just won his third GM of the Year Award, to run the team he bought.

Mike Brown has to be the worst owner in all of Professional Sports. He has been delusional for years about his own ability. He has transcended what being a "loser" is, and he has bestowed this moniker on his team.

:beerme: to Bobby C. The only thing now keeping Cincy from having two pathetic examples of Team Ownership.

Moosie52
11-21-2010, 06:31 PM
You've never heard of Charles Wang?

1990REDS
11-21-2010, 06:56 PM
or Robert Nutting, or Donald Sterling.

Vottomatic
11-21-2010, 09:47 PM
I love seeing the Bengals suck. It just makes me love the Reds more.

NorrisHopper30
11-22-2010, 01:13 AM
If it's MIKE brown, flush it down.

bounty37h
11-22-2010, 09:09 AM
You've never heard of Charles Wang?

Chinese porn star?

mroby85
11-22-2010, 10:17 AM
Bengals have made the playoffs twice since 2005, just sayin.

Red in Atl
11-22-2010, 11:37 AM
Bengals have made the playoffs twice since 2005, just sayin.

And they lost pathetically in the first round both times, showing the rest of the country they didn't belong there. If you notice this year, after last years playoff run, they have to actually play decent teams. Though the Bills were the worst team in the league.

It's possible to enjoy two sports. My problem is I don't know how to root for anyone but the Reds and Bengals professionally. I don't want to root for anyone else. Bobby C. bought the team and built it to sustain in the type of market exists now in MLB.

Mike Brown on the other hand knows nothing about football, held the county hostage to ensure he got the money for his beautiful stadium, so he could deliver the "Laughingstock of the NFL" for all to embrace.

Not hard for me to post an appreciation for current Reds Ownership.

mroby85
11-22-2010, 11:55 AM
And they lost pathetically in the first round both times, showing the rest of the country they didn't belong there. If you notice this year, after last years playoff run, they have to actually play decent teams. Though the Bills were the worst team in the league.

It's possible to enjoy two sports. My problem is I don't know how to root for anyone but the Reds and Bengals professionally. I don't want to root for anyone else. Bobby C. bought the team and built it to sustain in the type of market exists now in MLB.

Mike Brown on the other hand knows nothing about football, held the county hostage to ensure he got the money for his beautiful stadium, so he could deliver the "Laughingstock of the NFL" for all to embrace.

Not hard for me to post an appreciation for current Reds Ownership.

It was definitely clear the Reds belonged in the playoffs after being no hit in game 1, losing on errors and walks in game 2, and being swept in game 3. Many of the same arguments have been made about the Reds, which I also think are stupid. In the first playoff appearance by the Bengals that they "didn't belong in" they faced a team they had already beat that season in Pittsburgh, and still weren't blown out after losing their quarterback on the 2nd play of the game. Last year I guess they didn't belong either, even though they beat the team in the AFC championship game who destroyed the Patriots at Foxboro twice. I'm a Bengals and Reds fan, but if you're wanting to say one is so much better than the other, that doesn't make sense. The Reds just snapped not only their not making the playoffs streak this year of 15 years, but there not even being .500 streak of 11 years. I don't like arguing this either side, because i'm a fan of both teams, but its not like the Reds have been this perennial powerhouse outdoing the Bengals every year.

Red in Atl
11-22-2010, 07:07 PM
It was definitely clear the Reds belonged in the playoffs after being no hit in game 1, losing on errors and walks in game 2, and being swept in game 3. Many of the same arguments have been made about the Reds, which I also think are stupid. In the first playoff appearance by the Bengals that they "didn't belong in" they faced a team they had already beat that season in Pittsburgh, and still weren't blown out after losing their quarterback on the 2nd play of the game. Last year I guess they didn't belong either, even though they beat the team in the AFC championship game who destroyed the Patriots at Foxboro twice. I'm a Bengals and Reds fan, but if you're wanting to say one is so much better than the other, that doesn't make sense. The Reds just snapped not only their not making the playoffs streak this year of 15 years, but there not even being .500 streak of 11 years. I don't like arguing this either side, because i'm a fan of both teams, but its not like the Reds have been this perennial powerhouse outdoing the Bengals every year.

All I was saying was that I'm glad the Reds have an owner who doesn't get in the way, while the Bengals have an owner, who never played the game, that thinks he should make all the decisions for his team.

I wasn't trying to get into a huge Bengals discussion on a Reds chat room. The Bengals played no one last year. Yes they went 6-0 in the division, which was huge. But to compare regular season games to the playoff's is silly.

I'll look forward to your comments on how wonderful Mike Brown is after they end up 2-14.

Walt has a plan, has executed the plan, and it should keep us as a competitive team for years to come. What is Mike Browns plan?

mroby85
11-22-2010, 09:16 PM
All I was saying was that I'm glad the Reds have an owner who doesn't get in the way, while the Bengals have an owner, who never played the game, that thinks he should make all the decisions for his team.

I wasn't trying to get into a huge Bengals discussion on a Reds chat room. The Bengals played no one last year. Yes they went 6-0 in the division, which was huge. But to compare regular season games to the playoff's is silly.

I'll look forward to your comments on how wonderful Mike Brown is after they end up 2-14.

Walt has a plan, has executed the plan, and it should keep us as a competitive team for years to come. What is Mike Browns plan?

And my point was the exact same argument was made about the Reds this year. There were people who said they didn't play anybody, and were sub .500 against good teams. If you weren't trying to get into a Bengals discussion on a Reds message board you certainly picked a weird title for your thread. If you consider going 4-0 against the steelers and ravens not playing anyone than I'm not really sure who you want them to play. I wasn't comparing the regular season to the postseason, but the regular season is kind of a big part of getting to the postseason. I want both teams to succeed so i'm not ripping the reds, but I think its delusional to think the Reds are far and above them as an organization. I'm not a Mike Brown fan, i'm looking at it from the standpoint of Reds vs Bengals as an organization. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they went 2-14, and am hoping they do at this point, if you aren't going to the postseason, i'd prefer a high draft pick, and they obviously aren't going to the postseason.

Stray
11-22-2010, 11:33 PM
Watching the train wreck that has been this season for the Bengals has made me only miss baseball season even more. Apathy...that's what I feel when I think about Mike Brown and his goons.

Hurry up baseball!

webbbj
11-22-2010, 11:41 PM
the bengals 2 playoff appearances were in spite of mike brown. whereas the reds were because of castillini and walt.

despite those 2 playoff appearances the bengals still were the worst run organization in the NFL this decade and the previous decade. nothing has changed and nothing will.

I dont care if they win a SB as long as Mike Brown they are the worst run NFL team. When he hires a GM to make football decisions I will consider changing my stance.

If he did win a SB being the GM it be nothing but a luckbox season that he wont be able to sustain for the longterm.

Its also worth pointing out that developing a winning baseball team is much more difficult than developing a winning football team. Considering 1 player on a football team effects so much on the field.

Not to mention even for the casual viewer its easier to find players in the draft in the NFL. Try drafting for 50+ rds, w/ players that you dont have film to watch on every week like we do w/ college football as fans. then knowing where to place each player in ur minor leagues.


I used to be naive and think a team can win despite their owner. but they cant (not over the longterm) sure any team can luckbox it. The cardinals went to a SB but are they really any more well run than before i dont think so.


It starts at Owner then GM then coach QB the trenches then everyone else.

well we suck at owner have no GM and no QB or coach. we fail in very major aspect for building sustained success.

Stray
11-23-2010, 12:29 AM
Well said Webbbj, totally agree. I'd add that regardless of how professional and competent anyone beneath him is, they're ultimately doomed by working for a half-ass ran organization.

Look at the medical staff, look at the scouting staff, look at all of the information people that are there to make coaching and upper management jobs easier....you see a lack of time, money, and effort there which falls up the tree. So after the crap falls down from Mike Brown it actually falls back up through those areas and gives us a slim chance at success.

The blind squirrel does indeed find the nut occasionally, see our playoff runs. One we had a perfect Oline, healthy QB, and wr in his prime...along with a defense that was bad, but got turnovers. Last year we won a lotta close games, arguably games against better teams we shouldn't have won. We also played a last place schedule.

Now we're playing contenders and scrubs, losing to all. Marvin has lost the team, but Mike will likely let it run it's course till the end of the year since...well, that is the Mike Brown way. It starts with bad ownership and ends with bad ownership. As long as that clown is there the crap will trickle down, up, and side to side.

webbbj
11-23-2010, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE=Stray;2299264]Well said Webbbj, totally agree. I'd add that regardless of how professional and competent anyone beneath him is, they're ultimately doomed by working for a half-ass ran organization.


totally agree. i'd really think if take the same exact players and coaches that the steelers or pats have but run under mike brown they are not championship teams. Hes a disease that infects all his subordinates.


and like i say before teams can playoff runs here and there but it doesnt make you a good organization. the league is setup that you should be making the playoffs probably atleast every 4 years.

i feel sorry for andrew luck if he gets drafted by the bengals. his dad was an NFL QB and his coach's brother coaches the ravens. he is a junior at stanford right now and if im him or someone advising him i would tell him to stay in school if the bengals get the #1 pick.

i know its a risk to expose urself to injury 1 more year but i think he will increase his future earnings by staying. this organization is a cancer that he shouldnt expose himself to.

Stray
11-23-2010, 01:13 AM
Yeah you're right. You can take the best upper-management staff and coaches in the league, stick them in this cess poll and it isn't gonna work. They're successful because they work in an environment that oozes success.

Mike is what he is. At this point he's probably past denial and just doesn't care, so it's not like he thinks he's still good. He's making money though, from our pockets. I LOVE to see blackouts...especially when this team is what it is right now. The only thing that could change Mike Brown is a hit to his wallet.

As for drafting Luck...I don't even care really. If we do it sucks for him, so in that sense I hope we don't ya. Carson without a circus would have been a really good qb, I'm sure of this. His faults are in his mechanics under pressure, and his decision making....all very very coachable faults. His arm is still amongst the best in the league...it's just rotting here :(

webbbj
11-23-2010, 01:21 AM
Carson without a circus would have been a really good qb, I'm sure of this. His faults are in his mechanics under pressure, and his decision making....all very very coachable faults. His arm is still amongst the best in the league...it's just rotting here :(

i totally agree w/ this. everyone points to the injury w/ him, thats not it. the guy was a pro bowler after that. its the circus. now i think we need to cut ties w/ him b/c it isnt gonna work here but i got this feeling he ends up in somewhere else and regains some of what he had. i dont think he ever gets to 2005 level but back in that top 8-14type QB.

I could see a team like the titans wanting him which would be perfect. no nonsense head coach in a stable organization that has been pretty consistent for over a decade.

now do we cut ties w/ him? IDK but then again i never know what were gonna do, nor trust that any move made is gonna be good.