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edabbs44
11-22-2010, 03:01 PM
Congrats!

Homer Bailey
11-22-2010, 03:01 PM
31 of 32 first place votes. DOMINATION.

top6
11-22-2010, 03:02 PM
Just announced on MLB.com.

edabbs44
11-22-2010, 03:02 PM
Pujols 2nd, CarGo 3rd.

top6
11-22-2010, 03:02 PM
Woops, you beat me. I had to go and add the congratulations to the title.

In any event, CONGRATS JOEY!

Redsfan320
11-22-2010, 03:02 PM
:clap:

320

reds1869
11-22-2010, 03:05 PM
Well deserved, 19!

reds1869
11-22-2010, 03:05 PM
I am thrilled. Go Reds and go Votto!

Cyclone792
11-22-2010, 03:07 PM
Absolutely very well deserved! Congrats Votto!

TRF
11-22-2010, 03:07 PM
which schmuck in St. Louis DIDN'T vote for Votto?

Strikes Out Looking
11-22-2010, 03:09 PM
I applaud Mr. Votto and now hope that he and Mr. Jocketty can come to an agreement that will make him the Reds first baseman for sometime to come.

NJReds
11-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Congrats! He certainly deserved it.

kaldaniels
11-22-2010, 03:11 PM
Congratulations Joey...

Can't wait for Jay to get it next year.

Chip R
11-22-2010, 03:11 PM
Congratulations, Joey!

reds1869
11-22-2010, 03:14 PM
Congratulations Joey...

Can't wait for Jay to get it next year.

I like the way you think!

camisadelgolf
11-22-2010, 03:19 PM
Here are the voting tallies:

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Points
Joey Votto, Cincinnati 31 1 443
Albert Pujols, St. Louis 1 21 8 1 1 279
Carlos Gonzalez, Colorado 7 13 5 4 2 1 240
Adrian Gonzalez, San Diego 1 3 15 8 2 1 197
Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado 2 1 7 8 4 3 2 132
Roy Halladay, Philadelphia 1 3 4 3 5 2 5 3 130
Aubrey Huff, San Francisco 3 2 2 3 1 4 4 70
Jayson Werth, Philadelphia 3 3 1 3 2 2 52
Martin Prado, Atlanta 1 1 4 4 5 2 51
Ryan Howard, Philadelphia 1 1 1 2 2 1 50
Buster Posey, San Francisco 1 1 1 1 2 4 1 40
Matt Holliday, St. Louis 1 4 1 4 32
Brian Wilson, San Francisco 1 2 2 1 2 28
Scott Rolen, Cincinnati 1 1 3 3 2 26
Ryan Braun, Milwaukee 1 2 1 1 1 19
Ryan Zimmerman, Washington 2 1 2 3 18
Carlos Ruiz, Philadelphia 1 1 1 12
Dan Uggla, Florida 1 1 1 2 12
Adam Wainwright, St. Louis 1 2 1 12
Jason Heyward, Atlanta 2 1 1 11
Brian McCann, Atlanta 1 1 1 9
Adam Dunn, Washington 1 1 3 9
Ubaldo Jimenez, Colorado 1 7
David Wright, New York 1 3
Corey Hart, Milwaukee 1 2
Josh Johnson, Florida 1 2
Heath Bell, San Diego 2 2
Scott Rolen got 14th place. Ubaldo Jimenez got a 4th place vote and appeared on no other ballots.

lollipopcurve
11-22-2010, 03:20 PM
Great to see him get this recognition after all the adversity he has faced. Well deserved.

kaldaniels
11-22-2010, 03:21 PM
Funny to see BP didn't get 1 vote at all. He was one of maybe 8 or 9 guys sportsbook.com was posting odds on at years end.

(Not like he deserved the award or had a chance...it was just always odd to me to see him with listed odds)

Col_ IN Reds fan
11-22-2010, 03:21 PM
Very deserving. Congrats Joey.

The Operator
11-22-2010, 03:21 PM
This is so awesome.

Congratulations Joey Votto. Here's to hoping you're a Cincinnati Red for life!

kaldaniels
11-22-2010, 03:24 PM
I don't care if a STL writer voted Pujols 1st...that vote is somewhat understandable.

But Pujols 6th? Thats the worst vote on the board. Just calling it like I see it.

fearofpopvol1
11-22-2010, 03:25 PM
Congrats Mr. Votto. Well deserved. His salary sure won't be getting any cheaper now!

I'm sure most of you know this, but if you didn't know, the last Red to win MVP was Larkin in '95.

OnBaseMachine
11-22-2010, 03:26 PM
Congrats Joey, it's well deserved!

Red in Chicago
11-22-2010, 03:27 PM
Congrats Joey. I thought for sure Albert was going to squeeze that one out. Not that he deserved it over Joey but that he'd win based on prior performances.

vaticanplum
11-22-2010, 03:28 PM
Votto is "trending worldwide" on twitter. I have no idea why, but this brings me even more joy

IslandRed
11-22-2010, 03:32 PM
Well deserved, Mr. Votto.

The Operator
11-22-2010, 03:33 PM
I think it's safe to say that Joey has entered the superstar realm.

Homer Bailey
11-22-2010, 03:35 PM
Joe Strauss (Cardinals beat writer) voted Pujols 1st.

nemesis
11-22-2010, 03:37 PM
Joe Strauss (Cardinals beat writer) voted Pujols 1st.

As well as he probably should. He has to be in that clubhouse 80 times a year. His 1 Vote to Albert means nothing as far as Votto's award is concerned but could mean alot to him when interacting with him.

HeatherC1212
11-22-2010, 03:38 PM
Votto is "trending worldwide" on twitter. I have no idea why, but this brings me even more joy

Me too! I guess we can be nerds together, LOL :p:

Congrats Joey!! Very well deserved and I can't wait to hear what he thinks about all this. He's going to be interviewed pretty much for the rest of the day according to all the sports folks on Twitter. :D

redsmetz
11-22-2010, 03:42 PM
Votto is "trending worldwide" on twitter. I have no idea why, but this brings me even more joy

He is from Canada, so sure it's "worldwide".

My earlier message must have gotten lost in merging the threads, but my oldest daughter and my son both texted me at the exact same time (2:02) to tell me.

And I've updated my Sporcle quiz of Reds Leaders since 1900.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/jametz/RedsAwards

redsmetz
11-22-2010, 03:50 PM
The Toronto Star has the AP story up now, with their own headline: Etobicoke's Joey Votto voted NL MVP

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/article/894881--etobicoke-s-joey-votto-voted-nl-mvp

Johnny Footstool
11-22-2010, 03:50 PM
I'm gettin' blotto for Votto! (Figuratively, of course.) Who's with me?

redsmetz
11-22-2010, 03:52 PM
The St. Louis headline is: Votto routs Pujols in MVP voting

15fan
11-22-2010, 03:53 PM
Buy low, sell high?

redsfandan
11-22-2010, 03:55 PM
Congrats Joey, you deserve it.

I(heart)Freel
11-22-2010, 03:57 PM
From All Star Game snub to MVP... quite a turnaround for the polite Canadian.

Congrats Joey V. Great teams have anchors. Thanks for being ours.

UKFlounder
11-22-2010, 03:58 PM
Very cool!

edabbs44
11-22-2010, 04:00 PM
I don't care if a STL writer voted Pujols 1st...that vote is somewhat understandable.

But Pujols 6th? Thats the worst vote on the board. Just calling it like I see it.

How about Ryan Howard 2nd?

durl
11-22-2010, 04:05 PM
Congratulations to Votto. I was hoping he'd win but I honestly didn't expect such an overwhelming vote.

jojo
11-22-2010, 04:08 PM
Good for Votto.

HeatherC1212
11-22-2010, 04:11 PM
From Fay's Twitter:

Votto: 'When I heard, I couldn't help but cry. This meant so much me and would have meant so much to my father.' #reds

I really believe he's smiling down on and so proud of you right now, Joey. :)

Caveat Emperor
11-22-2010, 04:17 PM
Great day for Joey Votto and the Reds org.

Not bad for a guy most of us (including myself) were ready to drive to the airport if it would help bring Erik Bedard back from the O's. :)

RichRed
11-22-2010, 04:17 PM
How about Ryan Howard 2nd?

That one stood out to me too.

Great job, Joey - awesome news!

redsmetz
11-22-2010, 04:19 PM
Great day for Joey Votto and the Reds org.

Not bad for a guy most of us (including myself) were ready to drive to the airport if it would help bring Erik Bedard back from the O's. :)

The non-moves, as they say, are sometimes the best moves.

OnBaseMachine
11-22-2010, 04:21 PM
Nice article from Fanhouse on Votto and Casey McKeon, the man responsible for drafting Joey.


"We took a beating because no one had heard of him," McKeon said. "In that day and age, there were couple of publications that were the 'gospel,' and if you didn't agree with them, you were going to take the abuse."


http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/11/22/joey-vottos-triumph-stretches-far-wide/

Edd Roush
11-22-2010, 04:21 PM
I just want to echo the congratulations to Joey and I really hope that we can lock him and Jay up long-term this off-season. Reds baseball fever is as high as it has ever been in Cincinnati this millenium. Time to get more fans excited and sell some season tickets!!!

Raisor
11-22-2010, 04:21 PM
Hey,
I'm not a lumber jack
Or a fur trader
And I dont live in an igloo
Or eat blubber
Or own a dog sled
And I don't know
Jimmy, Jally or Suzie from Canada
Although I'm sure they're really really nice
I have a Prime Minister not a President
I speak English and French not American
And I pronounce it about not "a-boot"
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack I believe in peackeeping not policing
Diversity not assimilation
And that the beaver is a truley proud and noble animal
A toque is a hat a chesterfield is a couch
And it is prnouced "zed" not "zee" "zed"!
Canada is the 2nd largest landmass!
The 1st nation in hockey!
And the best part of North America!
My name is Joe and I am Canadian!

OnBaseMachine
11-22-2010, 04:29 PM
Votto on Colin Cowherd: I haven't heard of him either. I guess we're even. #reds

http://twitter.com/johnfayman

wolfboy
11-22-2010, 04:33 PM
Kudos to Votto. He really deserved the MVP. I'm really proud to be a Reds fan today. Thanks Joey! :beerme:

kaldaniels
11-22-2010, 04:35 PM
How about Ryan Howard 2nd?

I guess I don't care as much when a hometown guy gives someone a vote that they don't deserve.

Much worse to me is when someone is slighted as bad as Albert was.

Both are ridiculous though.

Ron Madden
11-22-2010, 04:40 PM
Good for Joey Votto! an award well deserved.

klw
11-22-2010, 04:41 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101122/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_nl_mvp


"I didn't think it would be so conclusive," Votto said of his victory margin. "I think it was a tossup. I beat him in batting average, but we all kind of know batting average is an overrated statistic."

Joey Votto= Stat Wanker

_Sir_Charles_
11-22-2010, 05:06 PM
Just got home from work, so I'm a bit late to the party. But congratulations Joey! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

HeatherC1212
11-22-2010, 05:11 PM
John Fay has more written up from the conference call and here's a few snippets from this article: http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/


–On defense: “I’m lucky because I live down here (in Florida) and there are several baseball people to work with. One of them is Ryan Jackson — he’s our Double-A hitting coach — he’s a former first baseman and very good first baseman. We make a point four or five or six days a week with defensive stuff, anywhere 45 minutes to 1 1/2 hours. I really made a point to try to nip all my weaknesses in the bud. I’m going to do that this year. Albert won the Gold Glove. It would be cool to win one of those.”

Edskin
11-22-2010, 05:21 PM
Oh boy, how is Chris Carpenter going to explain this to his son?

muddie
11-22-2010, 05:42 PM
Congrats Joey! You absolutely deserved it. It is always fun to see a class person win an award.

Really cool information of his spending time with Ryan Jackson on his defensive work. Nice little tidbit there. Thanks HeatherC1212.

TeamBoone
11-22-2010, 06:55 PM
OMG! OMG! I am sooooo happy! Have they interviewed him yet? I can't even imagine how happy he is.

Ron Madden
11-22-2010, 07:03 PM
OMG! OMG! I am sooooo happy! Have they interviewed him yet? I can't even imagine how happy he is.

Joey is supposed to be on 700 WLW with Lance McAlister @ 6:10.

WebScorpion
11-22-2010, 07:28 PM
Congratulations Joey!! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy057.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) You absolutely deserve it! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy110.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

It sounds like he's pretty excited about it. From John Fay's article (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101122/SPT04/311220087/1071/Joey-Votto-is-NL-MVP) in the Enquirer: “It’s pretty fricking awesome to beat Albert Pujols for the MVP Award,” he said.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy096.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

WVRed
11-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Oh boy, how is Chris Carpenter going to explain this to his son?

Never gets old, it's kinda like Rick Barnes has officially withdrawn his name from said job for UK fans.

Congrats to Joey Votto. Hoping for a repeat performance with either Joey or Jay next season.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Mario-Rijo
11-22-2010, 07:46 PM
Good for Joey, congrats #19. Now on to the worst vote(s). I personally thought Adrian Gonzales was way more deserving than Cargo and arguably just as deserving as Pujols. I probably would have personally voted him 3rd but I would have felt a little dirty about it. Thought he should have received some 2nd place votes.

Raisor
11-22-2010, 07:49 PM
with this award, I demand that all the Reds start drinking fancy coffee. That's the key.

Joseph
11-22-2010, 07:50 PM
Congrats Joseph Votto. We all have to stick together. [We being guys named Joe]

M2
11-22-2010, 07:53 PM
Yeah, but he's still no Brian Dopirak.

Tom Servo
11-22-2010, 08:44 PM
Well deserved.

paintmered
11-22-2010, 08:51 PM
Congrats to Votto :thumbup:

VR
11-23-2010, 12:28 AM
3rd best news of the day for me.


It's my anniversary
Childress fired
Votto MVP


still thrilled.....no way I would have guessed 31 of 32 1st place votes.

Matt700wlw
11-23-2010, 12:59 AM
Absolutely well deserved. A great day for Joey Votto and the Reds organization.

I'm ready for Spring Training!

KronoRed
11-23-2010, 01:16 AM
Neat.

REDblooded
11-23-2010, 01:39 AM
My guess on who voted Pujols 6th... Rockies beat writer...

Votto
CarGo
Tulo
Jimenez
-------
Pujols....

WVPacman
11-23-2010, 01:59 AM
Congrats to Votto,Im proud of him b/c he deserved it. I just hope him winning the MVP won't make it harder for us to keep him as a red.

REDblooded
11-23-2010, 02:17 AM
Congrats to Votto,Im proud of him b/c he deserved it. I just hope him winning the MVP won't make it harder for us to keep him as a red.

How wouldn't it?

mth123
11-23-2010, 02:58 AM
Topped the league in OBP and Slugging. The vote wasn't really as close as I expected and the voters got right.

Congrats Joey.

GAC
11-23-2010, 05:32 AM
Congrats Joey! Well deserved and you certainly earned it.

That's definitely gonna sway things to his side in arbitration. They need to sign this kid long term and make him the foundation of this club for years to come.

Two streaks broken..... 15 years since our last post-season appearance, and 15 years since a Red last won the NL MVP award (Larkin).

We're trendin' baby! :thumbup:

RedsBaron
11-23-2010, 08:34 AM
Joe Strauss (Cardinals beat writer) voted Pujols 1st.
I have no problem with Strauss's vote. Votto deserved the MVP but the stats between Votto and Pujols were close. I actually surprised by how big Joey's landslide was in the MVP voting.

Roy Tucker
11-23-2010, 09:04 AM
I have no problem with Strauss's vote. Votto deserved the MVP but the stats between Votto and Pujols were close. I actually surprised by how big Joey's landslide was in the MVP voting.

Me too.

I don't know if this quote from Joey is in this thread, but I did think it was a class thing to say about Pujols:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_3cb9946e-3281-57f0-94a6-4ce2ecd75106.html



When asked how he felt about beating out such great players as Pujols and Gonzalez, Votto said, "I don't like throwing around the word 'great.' Albert Pujols is the only 'great' guy I would mention (of the three contenders).

"He's one of the five or six great players in the game. Carlos and I are trying to establish ourselves.

"It's very special to have beaten out a guy (Pujols) … you can't help but watch one of the greatest hitters of all time. He might go down as one of the greatest players of all time, also."

Ghosts of 1990
11-23-2010, 09:52 AM
This is great. I'll never forget Votto's 2010, when he seemingly homered every time I was at the ball park.

redsmetz
11-23-2010, 10:18 AM
Nice write up in today's NY Times on Joey

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/sports/baseball/23nlmvp.html?_r=1&ref=baseball

He said he did not check his statistics until [the season] was over. Then he compared them with those of another slugging first baseman, Albert Pujols of the St. Louis Cardinals.

“I thought, ‘Holy cow, he beat me in a lot of them,’ ” Votto said. “He beat me in runs, he beat me in R.B.I., home runs — I think a couple others.”

Az Red
11-23-2010, 11:29 AM
Well deserved, Joey. You make Reds fans everywhere very very proud.

SirFelixCat
11-23-2010, 12:44 PM
Well deserved, Joey. You make Reds fans everywhere very very proud.

:thumbup:

Not only a quality baseball guy, he seems to be a pretty genuine guy as well.

:thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
11-23-2010, 01:29 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

Jocketty says #Reds will approach Votto about a long-term deal soon. "We were waiting until after the MVP to be fair to them."

http://twitter.com/johnfayman

TRF
11-23-2010, 01:30 PM
So it takes Votto winning the MVP for an M2 sighting?

hey yo M2!

Unassisted
11-23-2010, 02:06 PM
How wouldn't it?Agreed. It absolutely makes it harder for the Reds to keep him for the majority of his career. Any glimmer of hope of locking him in to a LTC went out the window with this award.

Phhhl
11-23-2010, 02:13 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

Jocketty says #Reds will approach Votto about a long-term deal soon. "We were waiting until after the MVP to be fair to them."

http://twitter.com/johnfayman

Daugherty made a good point about this today. The Reds kept him in the minors to play Scott Hatteberg. They subjected him, and everyone else in the organization, to those ridiculous rules Dan O'Brien institituted about taking the first pitch of every ab. Yes, there has been a lot of turn over in the front office since then, and by all accounts Votto seems very proud to be a Red and what the team has already accomplished. But, when it comes to contract time, I don't expect any kind of discount.

If the Reds can somehow get a 4th year out of him in a deal, that will be great. But, from right now, I am viewing Votto just like a free agent that has signed a three year deal and will very likely be gone after it expires. I am simply not going to spend then next two and a half years wringing my hands over the injustice of losing him. There is too much to enjoy in that amount of time..

The Operator
11-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Walt Jocketty is the guy who signed Pujols to a 9-year deal when he was bursting onto the scene in St. Louis.

I don't think we need to start considering Votto's eventual departure from town a foregone conclusion just yet. You think Castellini wants to see Joey leave town? I doubt it.

Phhhl
11-24-2010, 09:45 AM
Walt Jocketty is the guy who signed Pujols to a 9-year deal when he was bursting onto the scene in St. Louis.

I don't think we need to start considering Votto's eventual departure from town a foregone conclusion just yet. You think Castellini wants to see Joey leave town? I doubt it.

He is likely to be worth an astronomical sum in three years. This team only looks at table scrap free agents like Cabrera and Hernandez as it is, and even those guys are pricing themselves out of the Reds' budget. There is tremendous pressure from the players' union for these guys to get as much money as they absolutely can with each extension to drive up everyone's value. I am sure Joey is like most other players... very loyal to the union, in that respect.

All I am saying is, let's enjoy his time here rather than keep one eye trained on the clock. Joey Votto is a once in a generation player, and would be on any franchise in the league. The Reds need to focus on what they can do to win now. Go get Votto a cleanup up hitter to protect him in the lineup, and overpay a little if need be. Make a deal if the money is prohibitive for a free agent. A franchise like the Reds HAS to take advantage of the opportunity a player like Votto provides in the moment. Because, as we have seen hundreds of times before, the likelihood of this type of player spending his entire career in one city is extremely small.

RedsBaron
11-24-2010, 09:59 AM
I realize that there is an excellent possibility that Joey Votto will be gone after three more seasons. I also know that there are no absolute guarantees with any player. That said, I would love to see the Reds try to sign Votto to a six year contract, buying out his remaining three years before he can become a free agent. Would a six year, $120,000,000 contract do it?
Votto just turned age 27 in September. The next six seasons should be his prime years. Anybody can get injured but I expect him to be very productive the next six years.
I also wonder if perhaps Cincinnati isn't a better "fit" for Votto's personality than, say, New York.

Hoosier Red
11-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Daugherty made a good point about this today. The Reds kept him in the minors to play Scott Hatteberg. They subjected him, and everyone else in the organization, to those ridiculous rules Dan O'Brien institituted about taking the first pitch of every ab. Yes, there has been a lot of turn over in the front office since then, and by all accounts Votto seems very proud to be a Red and what the team has already accomplished. But, when it comes to contract time, I don't expect any kind of discount.


Joey actually mentioned once how much "those ridiculous rules" helped him in his development. He hated them at the time, but he said it really helped him as he went up the ranks.
And Joey didn't really stay in the minors for Hatteberg, in 2007, Votto was coming off his first real good year at AA, and Hatteberg was the starter. Votto came up at the end of the year, and has stayed in the majors since then. He did sit early in 2008 when Hatteberg was terrible, but he never really sat in the minors for Hatteberg.
I also don't think baseball players think the way that we do. Inside the culture of a clubhouse, a 21 or 22 year old kid doesn't see it as a problem that he played in the minors so that Scott Hatteberg could play. Or even that he sat behind Hatteberg for a month the next year.
Players seem to accept that paying your dues is par for the course in a lot of ways.

Matt700wlw
11-24-2010, 12:41 PM
Reds to approach Votto about a long tedrm deal:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/reds-will-discuss-long-term-deal-with-votto.html

RedsBaron
11-24-2010, 09:37 PM
Reds to approach Votto about a long tedrm deal:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/reds-will-discuss-long-term-deal-with-votto.html

I wish the Reds had approached Votto before this season, but he is still so young at age 27, so talented, and so dedicated to his craft that I would love to see the Reds sign him to a six year deal.

Screwball
11-25-2010, 12:34 AM
Joey actually mentioned once how much "those ridiculous rules" helped him in his development. He hated them at the time, but he said it really helped him as he went up the ranks.
And Joey didn't really stay in the minors for Hatteberg, in 2007, Votto was coming off his first real good year at AA, and Hatteberg was the starter. Votto came up at the end of the year, and has stayed in the majors since then. He did sit early in 2008 when Hatteberg was terrible, but he never really sat in the minors for Hatteberg.
I also don't think baseball players think the way that we do. Inside the culture of a clubhouse, a 21 or 22 year old kid doesn't see it as a problem that he played in the minors so that Scott Hatteberg could play. Or even that he sat behind Hatteberg for a month the next year.
Players seem to accept that paying your dues is par for the course in a lot of ways.

Not to mention the Reds handled his bout with depression and anxiety attacks in exemplary fashion. And that was by those that currently constitute the Reds' front office.

Honestly, I'll be shocked if the Reds don't sign him to a long term deal. Something reasonable in which both sides benefit.

RFS62
11-25-2010, 08:49 PM
He's a franchise player. Could approach Larkin territory in terms of local popularity if he keeps it up.

cumberlandreds
11-26-2010, 08:41 AM
Congrats to Votto. No doubt he deserved this award. I was pleasantly surprised in the margin that won by. The writers got it this year.

MattyHo4Life
11-29-2010, 09:53 PM
Congrats to Votto!!! He definitly deserved the MVP this year.

Hopefully, this will be his only NL MVP though. ;)

Captain Hook
11-29-2010, 10:11 PM
Congrats to Votto!!! He definitly deserved the MVP this year.

Hopefully, this will be his only NL MVP though. ;)

:confused:

I can't think of any reason I wouldn't want Joey to win the MVP every year as long as he's still with the Reds.

I guess your thinking is, that winning the award a few more time will make it impossible for the Reds to sign him.I would say to that, if he wins the MVP a few more times, it means a few more great seasons of Reds baseball.I suppose there is some middle ground there where Joey can be good enough so that the Reds win a lot of games, but not good enough to be considered the best player in the NL.

I think I get what your saying although I'd hope you'd change your mind if the Reds locked him up long term.

EDIT: sorry, I forgot your a Cards fan.

MattyHo4Life
11-29-2010, 10:19 PM
EDIT: sorry, I forgot your a Cards fan.

Haha....yep...no offense to Votto at all. If he keeps winning the MVP, then it means the Reds will continue finishing ahead of the Cards, and that just cannot happen. :cool: