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arkimadee
12-05-2010, 05:49 PM
I'm shocked by this deal. I didn't see Washington going out and spending money like this. The deal might end up hurting them if they don't get help.

FlyerFanatic
12-05-2010, 06:08 PM
terrible contract. 127 mill or something right? 7 years? he's a 31 yr old OF, his body wont hold up that long

arkimadee
12-05-2010, 06:32 PM
It could possibly go down as one of the worst deals of all time. It will rival the A-Rod, Texas deal as far as wasting money on one player. Unbelievable. I'm still shocked. What this has done is ruin the free agent market for middle to small market teams. That's ok though. It will stop the Reds from going out there and overpaying for someone because now they can't even be in the ballpark on some of these guys.

FlyerFanatic
12-05-2010, 06:51 PM
It could possibly go down as one of the worst deals of all time. It will rival the A-Rod, Texas deal as far as wasting money on one player. Unbelievable. I'm still shocked. What this has done is ruin the free agent market for middle to small market teams. That's ok though. It will stop the Reds from going out there and overpaying for someone because now they can't even be in the ballpark on some of these guys.

i dont think it mattered for the reds imo. if the reds do anything, i think it will be in a trade.

redsfanmia
12-05-2010, 07:39 PM
Why did'nt they just resign Dunn?

FlyerFanatic
12-05-2010, 07:41 PM
Why did'nt they just resign Dunn?

haha exactly

mlh1981
12-05-2010, 07:41 PM
Hope he enjoys never being anywhere near the playoffs anytime soon, but a guy like that got away with highway robbery.....he can't turn down that kind of money.

In 3-4 years, once it sinks in that he's on a perennial loser, maybe he tries to force his way out via a trade or some sort of buyout.

scott91575
12-05-2010, 08:06 PM
and that is why they are the Nats. They are not big enough to spend that kind of money on a player like Werth.

BTW....anyone still think Crawford can be had for a reasonable deal?

In case you were wondering, that is rhetorical. As I have said all along, both Werth and Crawford will get huge contracts. Werth just did, and Crawford will soon. The Reds, in not way, can afford the contracts those 2 are going to get.

Hondo
12-05-2010, 08:19 PM
They spent "Good" Money on a "Bad" contract for Jayson Werth.

This team just doesn't make any sense.

bagz
12-05-2010, 10:22 PM
Unbelievable :confused: There's no way they can afford to give all that money to one player and compete. Really bad deal.

George Foster
12-05-2010, 11:15 PM
Jason obviously cares nothing about winning. I could never play for the nats. Jason Werth was going to make a lot of money next year no matter where he went. He just desided he was going to be a part of a bad team and make more money. I feel he will regret this contract in a few years of losing 102 ballgames a season. This contract says all you need to know about Jason Werth.

gedred69
12-05-2010, 11:30 PM
While I scratch my head at this, given the Draft choices this team has in their fold, could they be gambling the young guys will be ready sooner than later, and a successful Vet like Werth, might be a good investment to help facillitate rapid development?

Eric the Red
12-05-2010, 11:56 PM
This contract says all you need to know about Jason Werth.

I say good for Jayson Werth. If Scott Boras can get Washington to pay him $126 mil when nobody else apparently was offering more than $80 mil, of course he has to take the money. Anybody in their right mind would. I can understand your point about playing for a winner if the money is close but in this case it wasn't even remotely close so why would he want to sacrifice nearly $50 million?

arkimadee
12-06-2010, 12:08 AM
I say good for Jayson Werth. If Scott Boras can get Washington to pay him $126 mil when nobody else apparently was offering more than $80 mil, of course he has to take the money. Anybody in their right mind would. I can understand your point about playing for a winner if the money is close but in this case it wasn't even remotely close so why would he want to sacrifice nearly $50 million?
The man already has a world series so I'd say go ahead and cash in. I'm not blaming Jason Werth at all, I'm blaming the Washington Nationals for being stupid and paying him that much when they can't draw more than 17,000 on a non Strasburg night.

Vottomatic
12-06-2010, 02:24 AM
He's not werth it.

Terrible signing. Terrible contract. I would bet $1,000,000 this will blow up in their face. (But I don't have $1M, so I can't)

Why sign these guys for 6 or 7 years when they're already in their 30's? That's just plain stupid.

gilpdawg
12-06-2010, 09:27 AM
Terrible contract. The other GMs have to be pulling their hair out now, because the price for Crawford and other guys just went up.

Hondo
12-06-2010, 05:01 PM
Another article said this exactley.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5891606

But I listened to Mike Rizzo on MLB Network last night and he acknowledged the 18 Million per year for 7 years was a lot of Money. He went on to say that the reason the Nats paid 18 million was because being the situation the Nats are in, they are going to have to over pay for Free Agents to come to Washington.

I totally see where he is coming from.

But I don't think this sets the market for Crawford etc...

Look at the Royals and Jose Guillen. Similar Situation, albeit Werth is ALOT better than Guillen...

The Royals had to over pay 3 years @ 36 Million to get Guillen...

That contract didn't have much effect on other players contracts... Simply because it was the Royals over paying for Guillen because they lose so much... What Free Agent is going to want to come there? Unless you over pay?

So I feel that is the situation with Weth to Washington....

Any people saying that Crawford goes up to 19-20 million etc... in my opinion is Agent "talk"... Hoping for a ripple effect...

I still say Crawford will be at 18 Million per year or less...

bounty37h
12-06-2010, 05:06 PM
MLB needs to step in and stop this, they cant complete as is let alone with a contract like that in one player, will finsih at the bottom...again...and get the top picks...again. Step in and block that signing and put a timeline in place for them to become competetive or sell the team to someone who is competent.

Hondo
12-06-2010, 05:10 PM
MLB needs to step in and stop this, they cant complete as is let alone with a contract like that in one player, will finsih at the bottom...again...and get the top picks...again. Step in and block that signing and put a timeline in place for them to become competetive or sell the team to someone who is competent.

I dissagree. It is a Free Market System. What do you want Socialism instated into the MLB bargaining agreement?

bounty37h
12-06-2010, 05:22 PM
When a team can stink on purpose and tank it year in and year out to get the 1st draft pick every year to collect big gate money from Strasburg mania, but dont attempt to be a decent team with those players, yeah, I have a problem with that.

krm1580
12-07-2010, 03:53 PM
I hope he enjoys the money because I believe he is really going to end up being sorry he signed for the Nats.

He was a very nice complimentary player on a team full of bigger names. I do not think he has the personality or the abiltiy to be the star his contract indicates he is supposed to be.

When this team does not win he will be the guy the spotlight shine brightest on and I really do not think he will handle it well and will beg to get out of Washington.

The guy makes a great Robin, but when you are getting Batman's paycheck you better be ready for the expectations that come along with it.

FlyerFanatic
12-07-2010, 04:12 PM
I hope he enjoys the money because I believe he is really going to end up being sorry he signed for the Nats.

He was a very nice complimentary player on a team full of bigger names. I do not think he has the personality or the abiltiy to be the star his contract indicates he is supposed to be.

When this team does not win he will be the guy the spotlight shine brightest on and I really do not think he will handle it well and will beg to get out of Washington.

The guy makes a great Robin, but when you are getting Batman's paycheck you better be ready for the expectations that come along with it.

yep, that phillies lineup allowed him to see better pitches, his numbers will be down i'm sure.

Hondo
12-07-2010, 04:32 PM
yep, that phillies lineup allowed him to see better pitches, his numbers will be down i'm sure.

I don't know. The Phillies hitters were all out of the lineup for quite some time early to mid season and Werth had to "carry" the team until Utley and company got healed up for a late post season run...

MikeThierry
12-07-2010, 07:40 PM
In hindsight, the Matt Holiday contract almost looks like a deal if this is how contracts are going to be in the future.

mckbearcat48
12-07-2010, 07:43 PM
And the Free Agent Market just caught helium...

bounty37h
12-08-2010, 11:32 AM
I hope he enjoys the money because I believe he is really going to end up being sorry he signed for the Nats.

He was a very nice complimentary player on a team full of bigger names. I do not think he has the personality or the abiltiy to be the star his contract indicates he is supposed to be.

When this team does not win he will be the guy the spotlight shine brightest on and I really do not think he will handle it well and will beg to get out of Washington.

The guy makes a great Robin, but when you are getting Batman's paycheck you better be ready for the expectations that come along with it.

I dont think he cares; when you sign for that much money with a team that bad, it can only mean he was out for as much money as he can get now. He has a ring already, no pressure to win in DC cause they stink so bad-no expectations. He just wants to show up at the park and collect the biggest check he can get IMO.

Vottomatic
12-08-2010, 04:43 PM
I dont think he cares; when you sign for that much money with a team that bad, it can only mean he was out for as much money as he can get now. He has a ring already, no pressure to win in DC cause they stink so bad-no expectations. He just wants to show up at the park and collect the biggest check he can get IMO.

I agree.

I wonder why the Nats didn't realize this? :confused: