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savafan
12-07-2010, 01:02 AM
Tragic story

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/teen-dies-after-getting-hit-by-baseball-20101206-lgf

RedFanAlways1966
12-07-2010, 07:48 AM
The teen was the catcher and was wearing a chest protector during the all-star team's indoor practice on Friday night. The players were getting ready for a tournament in Florida later this month.

Practicing baseball indoors in December so they can play in a tourney in FLA... Overzealous? Ridiculous? Allow kids other parts of the year to do other things?

Baseball is a spring/summer activity for those north of the Mason-Dixon line. At least it should be IMO.

Reds Freak
12-07-2010, 08:25 AM
Practicing baseball indoors in December so they can play in a tourney in FLA... Overzealous? Ridiculous? Allow kids other parts of the year to do other things?

Baseball is a spring/summer activity for those north of the Mason-Dixon line. At least it should be IMO.

I'm not sure this discussion is appropriate here. This tragedy could have happened anytime, any place, to anyone...

Red Leader
12-07-2010, 09:19 AM
Practicing baseball indoors in December so they can play in a tourney in FLA... Overzealous? Ridiculous? Allow kids other parts of the year to do other things?

Baseball is a spring/summer activity for those north of the Mason-Dixon line. At least it should be IMO.

My son's 12U team is starting practice indoors this weekend. They will practice for 1 hour, one day a week. Is that overzealous or ridiculous? My son also plays basketball during this time.

There are some teams in the area that practice a lot more than that and started before Thanksgiving. Heck, there are some teams that have kids that only play baseball and they are together and practice together year round and play a fall schedule on top of the regular spring season.

Kids sports are a lot different than when I was a kid. I'm not saying I like the way things are now. I'm not saying I dislike it...it keeps them busy and active in sports year round and in some areas, it keeps the kids out of trouble and off the streets.

Red Leader
12-07-2010, 09:22 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with Thomas Adams' family during this very difficult time. It is an unfortunate tragedy and I hope the family can make it through this difficult time.

westofyou
12-07-2010, 09:32 AM
He could have fallen off a rope and and the same result, it's a shame but blaming baseball or baseball coaches and today's methods is misguided IMO.

Folks have been playing baseball inside for over 100 years and in fact it was the most popular winter sport above the Mason Dixon line in the early part of teh 20th century and from that we got softball.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53963

RANDY IN INDY
12-07-2010, 10:06 AM
A real tragedy. My heart goes out to his parents, his teammates and his coaches.

Every time my son goes to the mound, it crosses my mind. Never crossed my mind when I was pitching. I think my biggest concern is how lively the bats are and the fact that the ball gets back on the pitcher so quickly.

Ghosts of 1990
12-07-2010, 01:36 PM
There is no other option to practice baseball in the midwest & northeast, etc. during the winter and early spring months. I played baseball in Ohio for middle school, high school, and in college and we practiced every day indoors. There was never any incident. He was no more at risk of being struck in the chest with a pitch indoors than he was outdoors warming up a pitcher outdoors, in a game, or even batting I know there have been some incidents with kids getting struck in the chest and it stopping their heart. It is a contact sport, so there is low percentage risk involved. But unfortunate as it may be, there was no correlation with the practice being indoors.

Redsfan320
12-07-2010, 02:58 PM
Something seems fishy here, like there could have been a pre-existing medical condition. Catchers get hit in the chest all the time. Was it a nasty foul-tip, just a really fast pitch, or what?

320

TRF
12-07-2010, 03:34 PM
Something seems fishy here, like there could have been a pre-existing medical condition. Catchers get hit in the chest all the time. Was it a nasty foul-tip, just a really fast pitch, or what?

320

It's not "fishy". The article states there was no pre-existing condition. He got hit and he died. it's an accident and a horrible thing to have happen, but it isn't fishy at all.

Redsfan320
12-07-2010, 04:08 PM
It's not "fishy". The article states there was no pre-existing condition. He got hit and he died. it's an accident and a horrible thing to have happen, but it isn't fishy at all.

When I read back over my post it seems like I was making light of it. I'm not. You're absolutely right, it was a horrible accident. It just seemed a bit odd, but odd accidents do happen.

320

Ghosts of 1990
12-07-2010, 04:12 PM
In the summer I would umpire little league games to make extra money. A lot of the kids started wearing "heart guards" because doctors discovered that a blow or trauma to the chest with a baseball would stop the heart, condition or not. If you google or research it, it's all there. This was just a freak accident.

marcshoe
12-07-2010, 05:08 PM
It's not "fishy". The article states there was no pre-existing condition. He got hit and he died. it's an accident and a horrible thing to have happen, but it isn't fishy at all.


'can't open the original story, but the report I heard (not sure if it was ESPN or where) said that there's a place in the heart's normal rhythm when a blow can make the heart skip a beat, and this kid's heart didn't start again (at least that's the way my non-medical mind understood what was said). The report said a chest protector is useless in such a case. Obviously it's extremely rare, but still scary that it can happen. And, of course, sad.

Blimpie
12-07-2010, 07:14 PM
In the summer I would umpire little league games to make extra money. A lot of the kids started wearing "heart guards" because doctors discovered that a blow or trauma to the chest with a baseball would stop the heart, condition or not. If you google or research it, it's all there. This was just a freak accident.In this case, the kid was wearing a catcher's chest protector--which is actually FAR more substantial than one of the youth "heart guards" you were describing.

Red Leader
12-07-2010, 07:33 PM
In this case, the kid was wearing a catcher's chest protector--which is actually FAR more substantial than one of the youth "heart guards" you were describing.

I've looked at those "heart guards" before and actually thought about buying one because I knew accidents have happened that have killed more than just a couple kids across the country. I decided against buying one because my son plays catcher and I figured he'd be safe because he wears a chest protector. I might go out and buy one tomorrow. In all previous accidents I've heard it was a batted ball that hit the child in the chest that caused the heart to stop.

Add to that what RANDY said about bats being so lively these days and it is truly something to have concern about. It's scary to think that this kid was wearing a chest protector and this tragedy still occurred. I'm thinking that this problem will only get worse as kids get bigger and aim to try and play against tougher competitiion. I think more research needs to be done on this and I'm hoping that we'll see better protective equipment in the near future to prevent these tragedies from occuring.

Ghosts of 1990
12-07-2010, 08:56 PM
I've looked at those "heart guards" before and actually thought about buying one because I knew accidents have happened that have killed more than just a couple kids across the country. I decided against buying one because my son plays catcher and I figured he'd be safe because he wears a chest protector. I might go out and buy one tomorrow. In all previous accidents I've heard it was a batted ball that hit the child in the chest that caused the heart to stop.

Add to that what RANDY said about bats being so lively these days and it is truly something to have concern about. It's scary to think that this kid was wearing a chest protector and this tragedy still occurred. I'm thinking that this problem will only get worse as kids get bigger and aim to try and play against tougher competitiion. I think more research needs to be done on this and I'm hoping that we'll see better protective equipment in the near future to prevent these tragedies from occuring.

I still think the odds are extremely, extremely against it. Think of it this way; how many times have we seen it happen at the Major League level? Not once. I would be interested to have a survey done of many MLB Catchers to see if they've ever had heart trouble after taking a foul tip, etc. But none of them have ever died from it.

Red Leader
12-07-2010, 09:08 PM
I still think the odds are extremely, extremely against it. Think of it this way; how many times have we seen it happen at the Major League level? Not once. I would be interested to have a survey done of many MLB Catchers to see if they've ever had heart trouble after taking a foul tip, etc. But none of them have ever died from it.

I'm not arguing that it's not likely in MLB or even college. Your reflexes and knowledge of the game prevents you from being in a bad position. You also have a lot more muscle in your chest to help protect your heart. It's youth baseball that I think it could become a problem. I used my son's bat in a batting cage recently. I hit balls from that bat that could have easily killed someone. We never had bats with that much trampoline effect when I was a kid. Even in youth sports it's likely pretty rare, but what if it's 1 out of every 1000 kids ages 7-12. Would you roll the dice that your kid won't be that '1'?