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TRF
12-07-2010, 05:25 PM
The Rules... You cannot add anyone not currently under Reds control. No Grienke, No Garza, No Cliff Lee. project the OD order and throw in any stats you want. Here is how I see it:


Arroyo 18W's sub 3.80 ERA
Cueto 165Ks, 200 IP
Volquez 200K's BB's in bunches 4.50+ERA
Wood 170K's 190+IP
Chapman 140K's 115 IP, replaced by Bailey/Leake to limit innings


At least that's what I'd like to see. More than likely barring some amazing performance, 1-4 might be right with #5 being Homer.

_Sir_Charles_
12-07-2010, 05:40 PM
1. Bronson Arroyo 21 W's, 3.50 earnie, 3 CG's
2. Johnny Cueto 17 W's, 3.80 era, 150+ K's, flirts with no hitter
3. Edinson Volquez 7 W's, re-aggravates some injury, shut down mid-season
4. Homer Bailey 16 W's, 3.70 era, 170+ K's
5. Travis Wood 12 W's, 4.10 era, 100 K's
6. Mike Leake, 13 W's, 3.80 era...replaces Volkie mid-season, first half of season Mike's in L'ville getting regular work.

Chapman stays in the bullpen all season long as Arthur Rhodes is not re-signed. Mid-season he starts closing the occasional game, as does Masset. Closer by committee begins to develop. Cordero still shows flashes of brilliance but is also showing signs of major fatigue.

Maloney, LeCure, Thompson, etc...all stay on the farm. 2 of the projected L'ville starters are dealt prior to opening day.

Oh, and btw...we repeat as NLCD champs and take one more step forward in the playoffs. Don't think we seal the deal this year yet though.

RedsManRick
12-07-2010, 09:22 PM
1. Arroyo
2. Cueto
3. Wood
4. Bailey
5. Chapman

Volquez is traded away for a real LF. Leake is a long man out of the pen - not mop up, but a guy who can finish up the 6th and get you to the closer twice a week.

Eric_the_Red
12-07-2010, 10:07 PM
1. Arroyo
2-5. The best four pitchers out of spring training.

Ghosts of 1990
12-07-2010, 10:38 PM
1. Bailey
2. Arroyo
3. Cueto
4. Volquez
5. Wood

Chapman to the pen. Leake anywhere else.

mth123
12-08-2010, 05:06 AM
2011 predictions Since so many guys could end up in different roles, here is the prediction for the entire staff. Depth is pretty good all around.

1. Arroyo - opening day starter with the shiny new extension unless he objects due to the fanfare. 220 IP with a 4.20ish ERA, 16-11.
2. Cueto 4.10 ERA 13-9 185 IP
3. Volquez 5.45 ERA, 6-13 160 IP
4. Wood 4.35 ERA 12-12 200 IP
5. Bailey 3.65 ERA, 14-6, 210 IP, 195K

Leake, Maloney, Lehr, Klinker, Avery and Reinicke in AAA rotation with Avery and/or Klinker bouncing down to AA when everybody is healthy.

Chapman and Lecure in pen with Cordero, Masset, Bray, Ondrusek and Arredondo. Rhodes signs elsewhere. Willis released in Spring Training. Fisher, Herrera, Valiquette and Burton setting up in AAA with Jordan Smth the AAA closer. Horst lost in Rule 5.

Ron Madden
12-08-2010, 05:13 AM
2011 predictions Since so many guys could end up in different roles, here is the prediction for the entire staff. Depth is pretty good all around.

1. Arroyo - opening day starter with the shiny new extension unless he objects due to the fanfare. 220 IP with a 4.20ish ERA, 16-11.
2. Cueto 4.10 ERA 13-9 185 IP
3. Volquez 5.45 ERA, 6-12 160 IP
4. Wood 4.35 ERA 12-12 200 IP
5. Bailey 3.65 ERA, 14-6, 210 IP, 195K

Leake, Maloney, Lehr, Klinker, Avery and Reinicke in AAA rotation with Avery and/or Klinker bouncing down to AA when everybody is healthy.

Chapman and Lecure in pen with Cordero, Masset, Bray, Ondrusek and Arredondo. Rhodes signs elsewhere. Willis released in Spring Training. Fisher, Herrera, Valiquette and Burton setting up in AAA with Jordan Smth the AAA closer. Horst lost in Rule 5.

Starting staff sounds realistic as of now.

membengal
12-08-2010, 06:36 AM
If it goes to spring unchanged, I think the rotation will end up being:

Cueto
Arroyo
Volquez
Wood
Bailey

Leake to AAA, Chapman and Lecure to pen.

Will M
12-08-2010, 06:40 AM
I really like the Reds starters.

1. Arroyo 200+ IP with an ERA ~4.00
2. Cueto 200 IP with an ERA ~3.50
3. Wood 200 IP with an ERA ~3.50
4. Bailey 175 IP with an ERA ~4.25
5. Volquez has to pitch well in the spring to get this last spot. I'd actually like to deal him for a SS or a left fielder. I honestly don't know what to expect from Volquez. I'd like to see Leake as the #5 starter. If he was I'd expect 160-170 IP with an ERA ~4.25.

I expect Chapman to be in the pen in 2011. Heck. I'd make him co-closer with Cordero. The rest of the pen is Masset, Ondrusek, Bray, and filled out by guys like Lecure, Burton, Arrendondo, Maybe Willis as a loogy.

Poor Matt Maloney is AAA depth.

Mario-Rijo
12-08-2010, 08:26 AM
Volquez
Arroyo
Cueto
Wood
Leake

Chapman to AAA, Bailey dealt for an upgrade elsewhere.

HotCorner
12-08-2010, 10:22 AM
1. Greinke
2. Cueto
3. Arroyo
4. Volquez
5. Wood

Yep. I'm dreaming but I'm allowed to during the Hot Stove League ™.

Degenerate39
12-08-2010, 10:25 AM
1. Arroyo
2. Cueto
3. Wood
4. Volquez
5. Bailey

Leake in Triple A for the beginning of the season. Chapman an innings eater out of the pen.

TRF
12-08-2010, 12:17 PM
1. Greinke
2. Cueto
3. Arroyo
4. Volquez
5. Wood

Yep. I'm dreaming but I'm allowed to during the Hot Stove League .

someone didn't read the rules of the thread. Grienke isn't allowed.

OnBaseMachine
12-08-2010, 12:37 PM
Johnny Cueto
Bronson Arroyo
Edinson Volquez
Travis Wood
Aroldis Chapman/Homer Bailey

Chapman will split time between the bullpen and rotation to keep his innings down. Leake will also get some starts.

Volquez: 185 IP, 3.45 ERA, 210 K's

Wood: 185 IP, 3.65 ERA, 150 K's

Chapman posts a K/9 around 11.

HotCorner
12-08-2010, 12:55 PM
someone didn't read the rules of the thread. Grienke isn't allowed.

Guilty. I read the title and the last post before posting.

HotCorner
12-08-2010, 12:57 PM
1. Cueto
2. Arroyo
3. Volquez
4. Bailey
5. Wood

This one meets the rules.

Big Klu
12-08-2010, 10:47 PM
Arroyo
Cueto
Bailey
Wood
Leake

corkedbat
12-08-2010, 11:53 PM
Arroyo
Cueto
Wood
Volquez
Bailey

Volquez or Bailey could be dealt for a bat. I think the Reds actually see Volquez as a #1 starter and expect that kind of season though. I think they are much more reticent to deal him than most on this site. I like Bailey more than many on this site.

I believe Leake is the most likely of the seven to be dealt, if not I believe he starts in AAA. I believe Chapman will also start the season in the Bats rotation if he's not in the Reds bullpen.