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takealeake
02-21-2011, 06:31 PM
Longtime Reds fan, but a 49ers fan in football. I can't see for the life of my why ANY Reds fan would waste money on the Bengals that could go to the Reds, especially right now. I just read a quote by Castellini that said ticket sales are up, but it doesn't look like a gigantic boost that the franchise deserves. This stadium should be filling with the kind of promise this team has.

Anyone who is wasting a single cent on the "other" team in Cincy should be ashamed. People should be cancelling Bungals tickets and using the money to go to more Reds games. Why would anyone want to go to a Bengals game anyway? To see them get embarrassed by the Steelers, Ravens Browns, and whoever else with the newest free agent signee straight off his parole hearing? Meanwhile the Reds have awesome young players who are about as selfless as it gets.

I don't get it. Plus the owners are going to selfishly lockout the players this coming NFL season anyway, so may as well go ahead and spend your money on what could be a very, very special season. :redbbcap:

Cuban_Missile
02-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Longtime Reds fan, but a 49ers fan in football. I can't see for the life of my why ANY Reds fan would waste money on the Bengals that could go to the Reds, especially right now. I just read a quote by Castellini that said ticket sales are up, but it doesn't look like a gigantic boost that the franchise deserves. This stadium should be filling with the kind of promise this team has.

Anyone who is wasting a single cent on the "other" team in Cincy should be ashamed. People should be cancelling Bungals tickets and using the money to go to more Reds games. Why would anyone want to go to a Bengals game anyway? To see them get embarrassed by the Steelers, Ravens Browns, and whoever else with the newest free agent signee straight off his parole hearing? Meanwhile the Reds have awesome young players who are about as selfless as it gets.

I don't get it. Plus the owners are going to selfishly lockout the players this coming NFL season anyway, so may as well go ahead and spend your money on what could be a very, very special season. :redbbcap:

I couldn't disagree with you more!

As a life long Cincinnati fan for both teams and a person who goes to a lot of games for both.

1st of all the Bengals had a rough season with a QB who didn't want to be hear and an offense that didn't click. The defense played their butts off every game and kept us in many games.

2nd. I spend my money equally on both teams because I love to root for both teams and see my city's teams do well. So don't preach to me about having to spend my money on just the Reds

3rd. I agree with you that the Reds do deserve more credit than the Bengals now because of the way Brown is running the team one of these days it could be after he dies they will figure out that a GM has always been needed to run the day to day football operations, with that being said the Bengals do well for the guys that they have on the team and it is fun to tailgate in Cincy, go to the games, and just be proud we have both an NFL and MLB team literally within a 1/4 mile of each other.

Pony Boy
02-21-2011, 09:14 PM
The Bengals have won twice as many division titles as the Reds over the last ten years.

mroby85
02-21-2011, 09:54 PM
It always baffles me when people try to shame someone else for what they spend their money on. I'm a fan of both teams, and support both teams equally. However, if someone is more of an NFL fan, and chooses to spend their money on the Bengals, I don't think they have any need to feel "ashamed". Also, What Pony Boy said, the Bengals just won the division 2 years ago, and in 2005. Lets not pretend the Reds have been a dominant dynasty over the last decade because they won the division last year. The bottom line is whoever wins more will end up having higher ticket sales because every fan base has a group of fairweather bandwagon fans that are there in the good times, and don't care to show up when "their team" isn't good.

Also, be embarrassed by the Ravens and Browns?? Maybe you should check some stats before you post that. I know they split with both last year, and lost at baltimore 13-7 after a goal line stop by Baltimore, and they've dominated both of those teams head to head in recent years. They also swept the division and went 6-0 in 2010.

The Bengals have won 8 out of the last 12 vs. Baltimore, and 9 out of the last 11 matchups against Cleveland. How Embarrassing. :rolleyes:

Red in Atl
02-21-2011, 11:47 PM
Really guys...the Bengals have been in the playoffs twice in the last twenty years or so. And both times they lost in the first round...embarassingly.

I'm not defending all the poster said, but between the Bengals and Reds, I'd be taking the Fam to see the Reds.

RedsLvr
02-22-2011, 01:28 AM
When I think about buying Bengals tickets, I think about when Marty talked about the idiotic Cubs fans who keep selling out game after game for a losing team. All that does is keep owners happy and not wanting or needing to make any changes. I'm going to keep spending my money on good ownership and a good team.

davereds24
02-22-2011, 02:45 AM
Really guys...the Bengals have been in the playoffs twice in the last twenty years or so. And both times they lost in the first round...embarassingly.

I'm not defending all the poster said, but between the Bengals and Reds, I'd be taking the Fam to see the Reds.

and what have the reds done? won 1 nlds series, and been swept in 2 others, including a no-hitter.

Pony Boy
02-22-2011, 07:18 AM
Exactly. I love the Reds, but their showing in their 1 playoff appearance in the past 15 years was way more embarrassing then the Bengals close loses to the Jets and Steelers.

bounty37h
02-22-2011, 09:31 AM
It always baffles me when people try to shame someone else for what they spend their money on. I'm a fan of both teams, and support both teams equally. However, if someone is more of an NFL fan, and chooses to spend their money on the Bengals, I don't think they have any need to feel "ashamed". Also, What Pony Boy said, the Bengals just won the division 2 years ago, and in 2005. Lets not pretend the Reds have been a dominant dynasty over the last decade because they won the division last year. The bottom line is whoever wins more will end up having higher ticket sales because every fan base has a group of fairweather bandwagon fans that are there in the good times, and don't care to show up when "their team" isn't good.

Also, be embarrassed by the Ravens and Browns?? Maybe you should check some stats before you post that. I know they split with both last year, and lost at baltimore 13-7 after a goal line stop by Baltimore, and they've dominated both of those teams head to head in recent years. They also swept the division and went 6-0 in 2010.

The Bengals have won 8 out of the last 12 vs. Baltimore, and 9 out of the last 11 matchups against Cleveland. How Embarrassing. :rolleyes:

I think its likely embarrasing enough to admit being a Bengals fan (;) MRoby), but as far as going and supporting their team, well, good for them!!

lonewolf371
02-22-2011, 09:54 AM
I'm hoping to go to more Reds games this year than any other year before. Money's tight, though, and it's also a long drive.

justincredible
02-22-2011, 11:14 AM
The big difference between the two teams is that Castellini seems to be a great owner that actually cares about bringing a winner to the city. Brown only seems to care about lining his pockets. If he cared about producing a perennial winner he'd hire a real GM and surround himself with better football people.

If I were a Bengals fan I wouldn't be spending a dime on them until Brown pulled his head of his his you know what. That said, you can't blame people for spending their money on their teams. I spend A LOT more on the Reds every year than I do on my NFL team (Jets) but only because it's more convenient (I can pick up and go to a game on a minutes notice) and I like baseball a bit more than I like football.

DirtyBaker
02-22-2011, 11:30 AM
Not sure if the OP reads ORG much, but there is a thread about ticket sales for the Reds being up significantly over last year.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2011/01/26/ticket-sales-up-significantly/

mroby85
02-22-2011, 11:43 AM
lol you're right bounty37, it's not been fun being a Bengals fan for the most part, but I thought it was funny with how many teams have dominated them, 2 out of the 3 that were chosen were teams they've played well against, lol.
Also, what people have to remember is a lot of fans are my age so they weren't around for the big red machine, or the team in 90, so in the mnds of those fans the Bengals have been more successful during their lifetime than the Reds. That being said, it hasn't been a magic carpet ride to be a fan of either.
Hopefully the increased ticket sales help lock Votto up for a very long time.

Cuban_Missile
02-22-2011, 02:00 PM
lol you're right bounty37, it's not been fun being a Bengals fan for the most part, but I thought it was funny with how many teams have dominated them, 2 out of the 3 that were chosen were teams they've played well against, lol.
Also, what people have to remember is a lot of fans are my age so they weren't around for the big red machine, or the team in 90, so in the mnds of those fans the Bengals have been more successful during their lifetime than the Reds. That being said, it hasn't been a magic carpet ride to be a fan of either.
Hopefully the increased ticket sales help lock Votto up for a very long time.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

brm7675
02-22-2011, 02:44 PM
Longtime Reds fan, but a 49ers fan in football. I can't see for the life of my why ANY Reds fan would waste money on the Bengals that could go to the Reds, especially right now. I just read a quote by Castellini that said ticket sales are up, but it doesn't look like a gigantic boost that the franchise deserves. This stadium should be filling with the kind of promise this team has.

Anyone who is wasting a single cent on the "other" team in Cincy should be ashamed. People should be cancelling Bungals tickets and using the money to go to more Reds games. Why would anyone want to go to a Bengals game anyway? To see them get embarrassed by the Steelers, Ravens Browns, and whoever else with the newest free agent signee straight off his parole hearing? Meanwhile the Reds have awesome young players who are about as selfless as it gets.

I don't get it. Plus the owners are going to selfishly lockout the players this coming NFL season anyway, so may as well go ahead and spend your money on what could be a very, very special season. :redbbcap:

Well one answer could people who buy Bengal tickets don't like baseball. The NFL is the No. 1 sport for a reason.

Vottomatic
02-22-2011, 03:39 PM
Really guys...the Bengals have been in the playoffs twice in the last twenty years or so. And both times they lost in the first round...embarassingly.

I'm not defending all the poster said, but between the Bengals and Reds, I'd be taking the Fam to see the Reds.

The reality is that the Bengals have had 2 winning seasons in the last 20 years. The other reality is that when you have a bad season, you get an easy schedule the following year. Both playoff years followed bad seasons.........so they had an easy schedule and made the best of it. The fans fell for it and the Bengals flopped in both of their first round playoff games, because it was fool's gold.

Same thing may happen next year. Katie Blackburn encouraged people to re-up their season tickets with several reasons, but the headscratcher was.............that because of their 4 win season this year, they will get an EASY SCHEDULE next year and probably do well. Hmmmmmm. Really Katie? So they win 10 games and probably lose their first playoff game again. And then next season after that, they get a difficult schedule because of their 10 wins the previous season, and they win 4 games again. It's a repetitive cycle that Bengals fans continue to fall for.

Word of advice. Wait until they have a more difficult schedule and succeed playing it. Then you will know they are the real deal. Otherwise, it's just what Mikey Brown wants you to fall prey to............believing in a team that is "just good enough", but not great.

New York Red
02-22-2011, 04:41 PM
Longtime Reds fan, but a 49ers fan in football. I can't see for the life of my why ANY Reds fan would waste money on the Bengals that could go to the Reds, especially right now. I just read a quote by Castellini that said ticket sales are up, but it doesn't look like a gigantic boost that the franchise deserves. This stadium should be filling with the kind of promise this team has.

Anyone who is wasting a single cent on the "other" team in Cincy should be ashamed. People should be cancelling Bungals tickets and using the money to go to more Reds games. Why would anyone want to go to a Bengals game anyway? To see them get embarrassed by the Steelers, Ravens Browns, and whoever else with the newest free agent signee straight off his parole hearing? Meanwhile the Reds have awesome young players who are about as selfless as it gets.

I don't get it. Plus the owners are going to selfishly lockout the players this coming NFL season anyway, so may as well go ahead and spend your money on what could be a very, very special season. :redbbcap:
A lot of us are avid fans of both the Reds and Bengals. To most of us, your post makes no sense at all.

mroby85
02-22-2011, 06:36 PM
The reality is that the Bengals have had 2 winning seasons in the last 20 years. The other reality is that when you have a bad season, you get an easy schedule the following year. Both playoff years followed bad seasons.........so they had an easy schedule and made the best of it. The fans fell for it and the Bengals flopped in both of their first round playoff games, because it was fool's gold.

Same thing may happen next year. Katie Blackburn encouraged people to re-up their season tickets with several reasons, but the headscratcher was.............that because of their 4 win season this year, they will get an EASY SCHEDULE next year and probably do well. Hmmmmmm. Really Katie? So they win 10 games and probably lose their first playoff game again. And then next season after that, they get a difficult schedule because of their 10 wins the previous season, and they win 4 games again. It's a repetitive cycle that Bengals fans continue to fall for.

Word of advice. Wait until they have a more difficult schedule and succeed playing it. Then you will know they are the real deal. Otherwise, it's just what Mikey Brown wants you to fall prey to............believing in a team that is "just good enough", but not great.

While this argument has some clout to it, and i'm aware of how scheduling works... What about teams with playoff droughts longer than the Bengals. You don't make the playoffs simply because you have a weak schedule, you still have to be a good team. Also, the 1st round playoff loss against Pittsburgh Carson Palmer was injured and Kitna played against a Pittsburgh defense. Also, keep in mind getting out of the AFC North may be the toughest task in the NFL. They went 4-0 against the Ravens, and Steelers in 2010. Again, I understand your logic, but I think it definitely has some holes in it.

takealeake
02-22-2011, 06:45 PM
A lot of us are avid fans of both the Reds and Bengals. To most of us, your post makes no sense at all.

I don't live in Cincy, and as an outsider, I think any real sports fan would say its blatantly clear which team should be supported.

Lets see, a young up and coming franchise with some of the top young players in sports who got MAJORLY undersupported last year.

Versus a franchise who has had all of 3 years in its history with a playoff win, and who caters to the egos of some of the biggest primmadonnas in sports, who have accomplished absolutely nothing to act that way. Oh and are once again in a familiar spot: as one of the worst teams in the sport.

If any of you want to spend your money on the Bengals, just give me the money and I'll light it on fire for you. It would be a better use. Or, just do the sensible thing and support the Reds more because they're the franchise in that city who deserves it. There's absolutely NO excuse for 10-15,000 attendance games this season for Reds games. And if some of you aren't there those nights and are wasting money on the Bungals, its directly your fault.

mroby85
02-22-2011, 07:23 PM
I don't live in Cincy, and as an outsider, I think any real sports fan would say its blatantly clear which team should be supported.

Lets see, a young up and coming franchise with some of the top young players in sports who got MAJORLY undersupported last year.

Versus a franchise who has had all of 3 years in its history with a playoff win, and who caters to the egos of some of the biggest primmadonnas in sports, who have accomplished absolutely nothing to act that way. Oh and are once again in a familiar spot: as one of the worst teams in the sport.

If any of you want to spend your money on the Bengals, just give me the money and I'll light it on fire for you. It would be a better use. Or, just do the sensible thing and support the Reds more because they're the franchise in that city who deserves it. There's absolutely NO excuse for 10-15,000 attendance games this season for Reds games. And if some of you aren't there those nights and are wasting money on the Bungals, its directly your fault.

Being a fan isn't just about supporting a team when they're good, but if that's what you want to do, more power to you. Before throwing stones though, I'd like to see how much of your income went towards reds gear or things like that. I would be willing to bet there are people who also support the Bengals, and still spent more money on the Reds than you did. I live over 2 hours away, and still went to over 10 games last year, including buying a lot of gear. I'm assuming since you're "an outsider" you're just spending other peoples money for them, and a small amount if any of your own.

mlh1981
02-22-2011, 09:43 PM
I'm not worried about the small increase in ticket sales. It will pick up this Summer, with the walkup sales.

Many Reds fans, including myself, live relatively far away, and it's a bit of a scary proposition to buy tickets a long time in advance, when you have no way of knowing what the weather will be.

There are fewer things in life worse than driving a long ways to a game, only to find out that it has been postponed due to weather.

webbbj
02-23-2011, 12:32 PM
they are two completely different seasons so the option is there to spend money on both equally if you have the money.

Of course season ticket sales and sell outs are gonna be higher for the bengals, they only play 8 home games a year. Its a lot more to ask of people to attend 81 home games a year.

bounty37h
02-23-2011, 12:53 PM
I don't live in Cincy, and as an outsider, I think any real sports fan would say its blatantly clear which team should be supported.

Lets see, a young up and coming franchise with some of the top young players in sports who got MAJORLY undersupported last year.

Versus a franchise who has had all of 3 years in its history with a playoff win, and who caters to the egos of some of the biggest primmadonnas in sports, who have accomplished absolutely nothing to act that way. Oh and are once again in a familiar spot: as one of the worst teams in the sport.

If any of you want to spend your money on the Bengals, just give me the money and I'll light it on fire for you. It would be a better use. Or, just do the sensible thing and support the Reds more because they're the franchise in that city who deserves it. There's absolutely NO excuse for 10-15,000 attendance games this season for Reds games. And if some of you aren't there those nights and are wasting money on the Bungals, its directly your fault.

Alright dude, your going overboard. What if people just like football (even if its bad football) and want to go to a game, thats their money and their right, WTH are you to tell them different? I 100% agree with your saying the Reds need/deserve more support, and you could leave the post right there and be fine. So, with the Reds stinking for the better part of 3 decades until last season, why are you still a fan, I mean, why would you support such a bad team during all those years? Are you just a bandwagoner that jumped back on the Reds train last year when they did well?

Cuban_Missile
02-23-2011, 01:30 PM
I don't live in Cincy, and as an outsider, I think any real sports fan would say its blatantly clear which team should be supported.

Lets see, a young up and coming franchise with some of the top young players in sports who got MAJORLY undersupported last year.

Versus a franchise who has had all of 3 years in its history with a playoff win, and who caters to the egos of some of the biggest primmadonnas in sports, who have accomplished absolutely nothing to act that way. Oh and are once again in a familiar spot: as one of the worst teams in the sport.

If any of you want to spend your money on the Bengals, just give me the money and I'll light it on fire for you. It would be a better use. Or, just do the sensible thing and support the Reds more because they're the franchise in that city who deserves it. There's absolutely NO excuse for 10-15,000 attendance games this season for Reds games. And if some of you aren't there those nights and are wasting money on the Bungals, its directly your fault.

So you just jumped on the Reds bandwagon in August of 2010? I see that makes sense. That is why you can't support the Bengals because they didn't do well last year. So when they do well next year you will be saying Who Dey all day. I love people like you why don't you sell your house and move under GABP and go to every game and spend thousands of dollars just on the Reds because that will help out young and upcoming team. Do you see how stupid that sounds? Good....because that is exactly how you sound to all of us who actually support both teams. And don't say that I am wasting my money on a team who has gone to the playoffs recently I could be wasting my money being a Raider fan and nothing is directly my fault for spending MY money on both teams. There are plenty of people in Cincinnati that don't support either team meaning no one gets their money OH NO GO GET THEM!

Calm down dude and let people think for themselves one time and go to what games they would like to go to.....Thanks for your concern.

takealeake
02-23-2011, 01:44 PM
Bengals = thugs and criminals. Reds = top young players. That's really that is all that needs to be said. It's inexcusable if the Reds are getting 10,000-15,000 in games this year.

So waste your money on a horrible franchise with a long history of criminals and underachieving prima donnas that finishes among the worst in the league most of the time. The sensible people will put more money into the Reds.


So you just jumped on the Reds bandwagon in August of 2010? I see that makes sense. That is why you can't support the Bengals because they didn't do well last year. So when they do well next year you will be saying Who Dey all day. I love people like you why don't you sell your house and move under GABP and go to every game and spend thousands of dollars just on the Reds because that will help out young and upcoming team. Do you see how stupid that sounds? Good....because that is exactly how you sound to all of us who actually support both teams. And don't say that I am wasting my money on a team who has gone to the playoffs recently I could be wasting my money being a Raider fan and nothing is directly my fault for spending MY money on both teams. There are plenty of people in Cincinnati that don't support either team meaning no one gets their money OH NO GO GET THEM!

Calm down dude and let people think for themselves one time and go to what games they would like to go to.....Thanks for your concern.

Cuban_Missile
02-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Really? How many players do the Bengals have on the team have committed a crime while on this team right now? And every team in the NFL has a guy or two considered to be a prima donna so not a valid point there. And you look at the last 6 years they have gone to the playoffs twice and swept their division twice. I think that isn't too bad of a 6 season span. A third of the time we make the playoffs I will take that.

matt

bounty37h
02-23-2011, 02:41 PM
Bengals = thugs and criminals. Reds = top young players. That's really that is all that needs to be said. It's inexcusable if the Reds are getting 10,000-15,000 in games this year.

So waste your money on a horrible franchise with a long history of criminals and underachieving prima donnas that finishes among the worst in the league most of the time. The sensible people will put more money into the Reds.

Think the sensible people will stop reading your garbage at this point.

New York Red
02-23-2011, 03:53 PM
I think at this point, takealeake needs to takeahike.

takealeake
02-23-2011, 04:00 PM
Yup I'm just making things up obviously. With no facts to prove it. I'm the only one unbiased here since I'm NOT a Bengals fan to make the statement, and I have facts to back it up:

The Bengals sign high risk players. That's not news to anybody. Sometimes the risk pays off, such as in the case of Cedric Benson and Tank Johnson, and sometimes the risk doesn't pay off, like in the case of Odell Thurman or A.J. Nicholson.

Joe Reedy wrote something today that shouldn't really come as a surprise to anybody. The Bengals lead all NFL teams in arrests since 2000. Reedy wrote:

According to the Union-Tribune there have been 31 arrests involving Bengals since 2000. They are not the runaway leader though. Minnesota trails by one with 30 while Denver, Jacksonville and Kansas City are tied for third with 25.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/5/10/1466426/bengals-lead-nfl-in-arrests


I mean it basically comes down to choosing to support a franchise with inept ownership, who runs the franchise with the most arrests in the NFL last decade. And have some of the worst success of any franchise in sports to show for it.

Get back to me when Reds players start going to jail.

bounty37h
02-23-2011, 04:21 PM
Ocho nail your wife? You sure seem to be on a mission. If you dont like it, dont go to the games or watch. No ones making you, and no one cares either way.

takealeake
02-23-2011, 04:31 PM
Ocho nail your wife? You sure seem to be on a mission. If you dont like it, dont go to the games or watch. No ones making you, and no one cares either way.

If you don't like my post, then don't comment. I'm simply stating the facts. Money that is going to the Bengals should be going to the Reds. And I would even say it if I lived in San Francisco, no way in hell I would tell someone to spend money on the 49ers (my favorite team) that they could spend on the Giants.

Reds fans have asked for years for a dedicated ownership to spend money and build a young core of players and be competitive. Now off a playoff run, and spending the most money in recent history on locking up these young players for the future, and have practically all the bad contracts off the books (this is Cordero's last year), its time for the city of Cincinnati to step up and support the franchise.

Being 20th in attendance this year isn't going to cut it. If some people would stop wasting their money on stupid franchises like the Bengals, the Reds would get more support, and draw enough to put out more money for that final free agent piece to win a World Series.

signalhome
02-23-2011, 05:01 PM
If you don't like my post, then don't comment. I'm simply stating the facts. Money that is going to the Bengals should be going to the Reds. And I would even say it if I lived in San Francisco, no way in hell I would tell someone to spend money on the 49ers (my favorite team) that they could spend on the Giants.

Reds fans have asked for years for a dedicated ownership to spend money and build a young core of players and be competitive. Now off a playoff run, and spending the most money in recent history on locking up these young players for the future, and have practically all the bad contracts off the books (this is Cordero's last year), its time for the city of Cincinnati to step up and support the franchise.

Being 20th in attendance this year isn't going to cut it. If some people would stop wasting their money on stupid franchises like the Bengals, the Reds would get more support, and draw enough to put out more money for that final free agent piece to win a World Series.

Completely off base with this. If I lived in Cincinnati, I'd be going to both teams' games, but it's not my place to judge where people spend their money. If someone enjoys watching the Bengals more than the Reds, I'm supposed to be angry about that? I have plenty of friends who don't like baseball all that much but love football. Why would they spend money to watch the sport they're not that crazy about instead of the one they love? Football's just a lot more popular than baseball right now, so all of this shouldn't be surprising.

Vottomatic
02-23-2011, 05:10 PM
I've lived in Cincinnati all my life. Huge Reds, Bengals, and UC fan.

I didn't watch a single Bengals game last year. After winning the division the previous year, I knew they'd have a tough schedule and struggle, because I've never thought Carson was a topnotch QB, and I'm not a Chad Johnson fan.

I told myself if they started 4-0, I'd start watching. Because the first 4 games were the most winnable ones. They went 2-2 in ugly fashion. I didn't watch any games this past season.

I have them figured out. They will get a favorable schedule next season, and slip into the playoffs and do their usual first round loss.

Mike Browns owns you fans. Owns you. You fall for it every time. It's all fools gold.

Unless they beat really good teams like the Patriots, Indy, the Steelers or a few others, you shouldn't waste your time. Only if they beat one of the best AFC teams should you start to pay attention. Then they possible might be the real deal. Otherwise, they are exactly what Mike Brown wants...........just good enough to sell tickets.

Cuban_Missile
02-23-2011, 05:18 PM
Yup I'm just making things up obviously. With no facts to prove it. I'm the only one unbiased here since I'm NOT a Bengals fan to make the statement, and I have facts to back it up:

The Bengals sign high risk players. That's not news to anybody. Sometimes the risk pays off, such as in the case of Cedric Benson and Tank Johnson, and sometimes the risk doesn't pay off, like in the case of Odell Thurman or A.J. Nicholson.

Joe Reedy wrote something today that shouldn't really come as a surprise to anybody. The Bengals lead all NFL teams in arrests since 2000. Reedy wrote:

According to the Union-Tribune there have been 31 arrests involving Bengals since 2000. They are not the runaway leader though. Minnesota trails by one with 30 while Denver, Jacksonville and Kansas City are tied for third with 25.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/5/10/1466426/bengals-lead-nfl-in-arrests


I mean it basically comes down to choosing to support a franchise with inept ownership, who runs the franchise with the most arrests in the NFL last decade. And have some of the worst success of any franchise in sports to show for it.

Get back to me when Reds players start going to jail.

WHO ON THE BENGALS HAS BEEN ARRESTED AS BENGAL RIGHT NOW?

Nobody is your answer

mroby85
02-23-2011, 05:21 PM
I've lived in Cincinnati all my life. Huge Reds, Bengals, and UC fan.

I didn't watch a single Bengals game last year. After winning the division the previous year, I knew they'd have a tough schedule and struggle, because I've never thought Carson was a topnotch QB, and I'm not a Chad Johnson fan.

I told myself if they started 4-0, I'd start watching. Because the first 4 games were the most winnable ones. They went 2-2 in ugly fashion. I didn't watch any games this past season.

I have them figured out. They will get a favorable schedule next season, and slip into the playoffs and do their usual first round loss.

Mike Browns owns you fans. Owns you. You fall for it every time. It's all fools gold.

Unless they beat really good teams like the Patriots, Indy, the Steelers or a few others, you shouldn't waste your time. Only if they beat one of the best AFC teams should you start to pay attention. Then they possible might be the real deal. Otherwise, they are exactly what Mike Brown wants...........just good enough to sell tickets.


Sounds like you throw the term "huge fan" around pretty loosely if you didn't watch a game last year, lol.

"If you don't like my post, then don't comment." says the guy who is posting to tell everyone else how they should spend their money.

I'm finished posting on this thread, but I just wanted you to know I purchased a new Bengals sideline jacket today in honor of you, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it :D

signalhome
02-23-2011, 05:26 PM
I've lived in Cincinnati all my life. Huge Reds, Bengals, and UC fan.

I didn't watch a single Bengals game last year. After winning the division the previous year, I knew they'd have a tough schedule and struggle, because I've never thought Carson was a topnotch QB, and I'm not a Chad Johnson fan.

I told myself if they started 4-0, I'd start watching. Because the first 4 games were the most winnable ones. They went 2-2 in ugly fashion. I didn't watch any games this past season.

I have them figured out. They will get a favorable schedule next season, and slip into the playoffs and do their usual first round loss.

Mike Browns owns you fans. Owns you. You fall for it every time. It's all fools gold.

Unless they beat really good teams like the Patriots, Indy, the Steelers or a few others, you shouldn't waste your time. Only if they beat one of the best AFC teams should you start to pay attention. Then they possible might be the real deal. Otherwise, they are exactly what Mike Brown wants...........just good enough to sell tickets.

I understand where you're coming from, but you're forgetting something. Only two games are determined by how they finished last year.

Six games are intra-divisional, so those obviously aren't determined by the previous year.

Four games against NFC West, shared by everyone in AFC North. The NFC division they face is rotated each year; not determined by previous year, though facing the NFC West this upcoming season is a recipe for success.

Four games against AFC South, shared by everyone in AFC North. The AFC division they face is rotated each year; not determined by previous year. This is one of the best divisions in football, so this will be brutal.

That leaves two games that are determined by the previous year. The Bengals face the last place team from each of the two remaining AFC divisions (this year, it's the West and East, so they face the Broncos and Bills).

Two cake games is nice, but I don't think it's enough to make a garbage team into an 11-5 division winner.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2915348/2010_nfl_schedule_released_and_how.html for proof that I'm not just making this up.

BurgervilleBuck
02-23-2011, 05:44 PM
I can't fathom why people spend any money on the Bengals considering how little Mike Brown thinks of the fans. As long as the Brown family owns that team, I will never root for them.

Besides, who needs a dull sport like football when you have a far more athletic and exciting game like Hockey to watch.

mroby85
02-23-2011, 05:49 PM
Because everyone knows Hockey is far superior in ratings to the NFL, and football fans are by far in the minority of the two sports. (sarcasm) I can't resist posting on this thread.

takealeake
02-23-2011, 05:54 PM
I've lived in Cincinnati all my life. Huge Reds, Bengals, and UC fan.

I didn't watch a single Bengals game last year. After winning the division the previous year, I knew they'd have a tough schedule and struggle, because I've never thought Carson was a topnotch QB, and I'm not a Chad Johnson fan.

I told myself if they started 4-0, I'd start watching. Because the first 4 games were the most winnable ones. They went 2-2 in ugly fashion. I didn't watch any games this past season.

I have them figured out. They will get a favorable schedule next season, and slip into the playoffs and do their usual first round loss.

Mike Browns owns you fans. Owns you. You fall for it every time. It's all fools gold.

Unless they beat really good teams like the Patriots, Indy, the Steelers or a few others, you shouldn't waste your time. Only if they beat one of the best AFC teams should you start to pay attention. Then they possible might be the real deal. Otherwise, they are exactly what Mike Brown wants...........just good enough to sell tickets.

Props man, I give you credit for calling it like you see it. Too bad too many have on rose colored glasses and can't see it. There's only enough money to go around for pro sports cities, unless you're a New York, LA, Chicago, along those lines. It boggles the mind how anyone would waste a cent on a sham franchise when a diamond one is just there waiting to explode to with potential. Reds should be targeting 35,000 plus a game this season, not 20,000 like last year.

BurgervilleBuck
02-23-2011, 06:17 PM
Because everyone knows Hockey is far superior in ratings to the NFL, and football fans are by far in the minority of the two sports. (sarcasm) I can't resist posting on this thread.
Yup, because ratings is the only indicator of how good a sport is. But I can see why football's so exciting. You have a play, then you wait around. Then you have another play, then wait around some more. Another play, people walk around, then another play, then you punt. And then you have a commercial.

Reading War & Peace can't touch the interminable dullness that is football.

OfficerRodFarva
02-23-2011, 11:55 PM
I find it completely shocking that a person who is a Reds fan, and not a Bengals fan would suggest that we not like the Bengals.

bounty37h
02-24-2011, 10:37 AM
Props man, I give you credit for calling it like you see it. Too bad too many have on rose colored glasses and can't see it. There's only enough money to go around for pro sports cities, unless you're a New York, LA, Chicago, along those lines. It boggles the mind how anyone would waste a cent on a sham franchise when a diamond one is just there waiting to explode to with potential. Reds should be targeting 35,000 plus a game this season, not 20,000 like last year.

Calling it as you see it and being a jerk about it are 2 different things. Look at how people respond to his post and yours and figure out which group you may belong in.

Cuban_Missile
02-24-2011, 11:21 AM
Props man, I give you credit for calling it like you see it. Too bad too many have on rose colored glasses and can't see it. There's only enough money to go around for pro sports cities, unless you're a New York, LA, Chicago, along those lines. It boggles the mind how anyone would waste a cent on a sham franchise when a diamond one is just there waiting to explode to with potential. Reds should be targeting 35,000 plus a game this season, not 20,000 like last year.

Why don't you proof read your posts before your make them that was you sound slightly educated when it comes to talking about how many pro-sports can survive in a city. Because if two pro sports teams can survive in Cleveland which is far more poor than Cincinnati then it can work here like it has for 46 years. Oh and not to mention Detroit which is the poorest city around not only has the Lions and Tigers, but then you add in the Pistons and Red Wings and guess what those teams haven't moved so if there is a way for those poor cities to make a two and a four team city work I think Cincinnati is doing just fine bud.