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redsmetz
02-24-2011, 09:01 AM
I've been receiving feeds on Facebook from Baseball-reference.com's blog with some interesting posts.

Today's caught my eye and then I saw some Reds on this list too. The topic was players who hit more home runs in a season than they struck out (minimum 20 HR's). Big Klu was on the list four times with Frank McCormick and Ernie Lombardi just making the list with their 1944 and 1939 respectively (20 dingers).

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10091

TStuck
02-24-2011, 10:47 AM
That is one impressive list and makes me appreciate Big Klu even more than I already did. There were some pretty incredible RBI totals that went along with many of those names also. Shows the added value of the slugger who regularly puts the ball in play (and the value of having guys on base ahead of them!).

George Anderson
02-24-2011, 03:40 PM
How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml

westofyou
02-24-2011, 03:41 PM
How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml

Brother Vince broke the MLB record for K's in his 2nd season.

Dan
02-24-2011, 03:44 PM
How about almost more Hr's than strikeouts in a career.

Dimaggio had 361 career HR's and 369 career strikeouts.



http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml

That's my second all-time favorite baseball stat. Just amazing a player could do that for an entire career, no matter who the player.

/favorite stat is 3016, which is the number of hits Hank Aaron has if you take away all of his home runs

MikeThierry
02-25-2011, 10:51 PM
My god, Stan Musial went nuts in 1948:


155 694 611 135 230 46 18 131 79 .376 .450 .702 1.152

dude had 18 triples that year.

gonelong
02-28-2011, 05:08 PM
Be curious how the rate of these occurances changed once "modern" relief pitching took hold. I suspect they dropped quite a bit. Nothing will slow down HR and increse Ks more then the oppossing manager brining in a guy who's specific job is to get guys like you out.

GL

westofyou
02-28-2011, 08:45 PM
Rough list, starting point is 1920 (due to incomplete K records prior)




SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 10
STRIKEOUTS <= 10

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Tommy Holmes 1945 636 28 9
2 Frankie Frisch 1927 617 10 10
3 Lou Boudreau 1948 560 18 9
4 Billy Southworth 1926 507 16 10
5 Joe Sewell 1932 503 11 3
6 Mickey Cochrane 1927 432 12 7
7 Ernie Lombardi 1935 332 12 6
8 Earl Smith 1921 229 10 8
9 Ted Williams 1953 91 13 10


SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 15
STRIKEOUTS <= 15

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Red Schoendienst 1957 648 15 15
2 Charlie Gehringer 1936 641 15 13
3 Tommy Holmes 1945 636 28 9
4 Frank McCormick 1941 603 17 13
5 Yogi Berra 1950 597 28 12
6 Vic Power 1958 590 16 14
7 Tris Speaker 1923 574 17 15
8 Lou Boudreau 1948 560 18 9
9 Joe DiMaggio 1941 541 30 13
10 Billy Southworth 1926 507 16 10
11 Ernie Lombardi 1938 489 19 14
12 Don Mueller 1951 469 16 13
13 Bill Dickey 1932 423 15 13
14 Ken Williams 1925 411 25 14
15 Lou Skizas 1957 376 18 15
16 Ernie Lombardi 1945 368 19 11


SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 20
STRIKEOUTS <= 20

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Lefty O'Doul 1929 638 32 19
2 Tommy Holmes 1945 636 28 9
3 Yogi Berra 1950 597 28 12
4 Lefty O'Doul 1932 595 21 20
5 Frank McCormick 1944 581 20 17
6 Yogi Berra 1951 547 27 20
T7 Joe DiMaggio 1941 541 30 13
T7 Yogi Berra 1955 541 27 20
9 Irish Meusel 1925 516 21 19
10 Joe DiMaggio 1939 462 30 20
11 Ernie Lombardi 1939 450 20 19
12 Bill Dickey 1936 423 22 16
13 Ken Williams 1925 411 25 14

SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 25
STRIKEOUTS <= 25

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Bill Terry 1932 643 28 23
2 Lefty O'Doul 1929 638 32 19
3 Tommy Holmes 1945 636 28 9
4 Joe DiMaggio 1938 599 32 21
5 Yogi Berra 1950 597 28 12
6 Yogi Berra 1951 547 27 20
T7 Yogi Berra 1955 541 27 20
T7 Joe DiMaggio 1941 541 30 13
9 Yogi Berra 1952 534 30 24
10 Bill Dickey 1937 530 29 22
11 Joe DiMaggio 1946 503 25 24
12 Joe DiMaggio 1939 462 30 20
13 Bill Dickey 1938 454 27 22
14 Ken Williams 1925 411 25 14
15 Ted Williams 1950 334 28 21
16 Ted Williams 1955 320 28 24
17 Johnny Mize 1950 274 25 24


SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 30
STRIKEOUTS <= 30

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Lefty O'Doul 1929 638 32 19
2 Joe DiMaggio 1938 599 32 21
3 Joe DiMaggio 1948 594 39 30
4 Willard Marshall 1947 587 36 30
5 Joe DiMaggio 1941 541 30 13
6 Yogi Berra 1952 534 30 24
7 Yogi Berra 1956 521 30 29
8 Joe DiMaggio 1940 508 31 30
9 Joe DiMaggio 1939 462 30 20
10 Ted Williams 1941 456 37 27



SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 35
STRIKEOUTS <= 35

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Stan Musial 1948 611 39 34
2 Joe DiMaggio 1948 594 39 30
3 Willard Marshall 1947 587 36 30
4 Ken Williams 1922 585 39 31
5 Lou Gehrig 1934 579 49 31
6 Ted Kluszewski 1954 573 49 35
7 Ted Kluszewski 1953 570 40 34
8 Al Simmons 1930 554 36 34
9 Ted Kluszewski 1956 517 35 31
10 Andy Pafko 1950 514 36 32
11 Ted Williams 1941 456 37 27

SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 40
STRIKEOUTS <= 40

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Joe DiMaggio 1937 621 46 37
2 Ted Kluszewski 1955 612 47 40
3 Lou Gehrig 1934 579 49 31
4 Ted Kluszewski 1954 573 49 35
5 Ted Kluszewski 1953 570 40 34
6 Johnny Mize 1948 560 40 37
7 Mel Ott 1929 545 42 38

SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 45
STRIKEOUTS <= 45

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Joe DiMaggio 1937 621 46 37
2 Ted Kluszewski 1955 612 47 40
3 Johnny Mize 1947 586 51 42
4 Lou Gehrig 1934 579 49 31
5 Ted Kluszewski 1954 573 49 35
6 Barry Bonds 2004 373 45 41

SEASON
1920-2010
HOMERUNS >= 50
STRIKEOUTS <= 50

AT BATS YEAR AB HR SO
1 Johnny Mize 1947 586 51 42

redsmetz
03-01-2011, 08:48 AM
Be curious how the rate of these occurances changed once "modern" relief pitching took hold. I suspect they dropped quite a bit. Nothing will slow down HR and increse Ks more then the oppossing manager brining in a guy who's specific job is to get guys like you out.

GL

I saw WOY's lists, but in the original list, there were only two players after 1956, George Brett in 1980 and Barry Bonds in 2004 and steroids aside, his numbers were just crazy that season (617 BA's, but only 389 BA's, 232 walks). Klu & Yogi Berra were the last two prior to those, both in 1956. For all the folklore about Yogi and his cockeyed view of the world, one can forget that he was a really good ballplayer.

westofyou
03-01-2011, 11:00 AM
But the approach to the game in the batters box changed drastically in the 50's, more K's came in that era and right beside that is the rise in HR's across both leagues, plus the advent of the relief pitcher and the introduction of the slider made the game harder for the hitter to hit for power without piling up some K's.