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camisadelgolf
04-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Well, the polls are over. Here are the results. Was anyone left off the list that deserved to be on it? Is someone severely over/under-ranked? Any surprises?

Prospect #1 - Aroldis Chapman, LHP
Prospect #2 - Devin Mesoraco, C
Prospect #3 - Yorman Rodriguez, CF
Prospect #4 - Yonder Alonso, 1B
Prospect #5 - Billy Hamilton, SS
Prospect #6 - Yasmani Grandal, C
Prospect #7 - Todd Frazier, IF/OF
Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco, 3B
Prospect #9 - Zack Cozart, SS
Prospect #10 - David Sappelt, CF
Prospect #11 - Donnie Joseph, LHP
Prospect #12 - Ismael Guillon, LHP
Prospect #13 - Brad Boxberger, RHP
Prospect #14 - Chris Valaika, IF
Prospect #15 - Kyle Lotzkar, RHP
Prospect #16 - Ryan LaMarre, OF
Prospect #17 - Juan Duran, OF
Prospect #18 - Junior Arias, SS
Prospect #19 - Sam Lecure, RHP
Prospect #20 - Ronald Torreyes, IF
Prospect #21 - Neftali Soto, IF
Prospect #22 - Jonathan Correa, RHP
Prospect #23 - Danny Dorn, 1B/OF
Prospect #24 - Henry Rodriguez, IF
Prospect #25 - Kris Negron, IF
Prospect #26 - Daryl Thompson, RHP
Prospect #27 - Didi Gregorius, SS
Prospect #28 - Drew Cisco, RHP
Prospect #29 - Cody Puckett, IF/OF
Prospect #30 - Dan Corcino, RHP
Prospect #31 - Phil Valiquette, LHP
Prospect #32 - Felix Perez, OF
Prospect #33 - Jake Johnson, RHP
Prospect #34 - Mark Fleury, C
Prospect #35 - Tucker Barnhart, C
Prospect #36 - Jeremy Horst, LHP
Prospect #37 - Kyle Waldrop, OF
Prospect #38 - Humberto Valor, SS
Prospect #39 - Jordan Hotchkiss, RHP
Prospect #40 - Scott Carroll, RHP
Prospect #41 - Matt Klinker, RHP
Prospect #42 - Dan Tuttle, RHP
Prospect #43 - Matt Fairel, LHP
Prospect #44 - Tanner Robles, LHP
Prospect #45 - JC Sulbaran, RHP
Prospect #46 - Jerry Gil, RHP
Prospect #47 - Josh Ravin, RHP
Prospect #48 - Carlos Ramos, RHP
Prospect #49 - Brian Pearl, RHP
Prospect #50 - Mace Thurman, LHP

HokieRed
04-02-2011, 03:57 PM
If we were redoing this now post spring training, I wonder if Scott Carroll would go higher. Also, Frazier and Valaika seem to me too high, but I hope I'm wrong about that.

mace
04-02-2011, 05:17 PM
I thought Hotchkiss was kind of low, given his performance the last two years, and Brian Pearl seemed to come out of nowhere--largely, I think, on the plug from doug, which is as good a reason as any. There was a late rush toward Ramos, based on scouting reports, and I suspect he would have been ranked higher if that information had arrived sooner.

My next ten, in no particular order, would be Wes Mugarian, Blaine Howell, David Vidal, Chase Ware, Justin Freeman, Samuel Diaz, Juan Silva, Abel de Los Santos, Theo Bowe and Miguel Rojas, even though he hasn't done much with the bat. And it was hard to keep Jaren Matthews off that list. Not a bad group to still be at-large after the top 50.

Red Daddy
04-02-2011, 06:23 PM
I thought richburg and buchholz should be on the list.

edabbs44
04-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Pretty surprised that Mugarian wasn't in the top 50.

mth123
04-02-2011, 08:53 PM
For Me, Valaika should be in the mid 20s. I don't see why Lotzkar is ranked so highly w/o some proof that he can hold up after a few innings pile up on his arm. I'd say he's a longer shot than many guys who didn't make it. I like Danny Dorn, but it seems the Reds don't see him as more than an organizational guy, so he should be way lower or off the list completely.

I'm thinking a guy who has a Juan Castro like career ahead of him could be Miguel Rojas. I wonder if he can even have a career with some Adam Everett type seasons as an impact defender at SS on a team with a bunch of bats. The Brewers would probably be a better team with Rojas starting right now. I'd say he should be in the 40s somewhere. David Vidal intrigues me as does Brodie Greene and Jefry Sierra.

fearofpopvol1
04-04-2011, 02:53 AM
Pretty surprised that Mugarian wasn't in the top 50.

I agree. I like him better than the last 5 guys on this list for sure, at least as of now.

On a separate note, I would imagine if we did this poll again, Sappelt might move up some spots. Not sure how many, but some. I'd also imagine that Joseph was quite overrated and he would drop a lot of spots. At least based on his spring training performance. I wonder if LeCure might move up some spots too...seeing as how the Reds clearly like him as a major leaguer in some capacity.

Edd Roush
08-12-2011, 08:22 AM
I just wanted to bump this thread to discuss who has jumped the most in your mind.

Mine is easy: David Vidal. I really didn't know anything about him this year, but through 8/11/11, he has 17 bombs and a .883 OPS playing good defense at the hot corner. I would have to think that he will make my top 20, and may even crack my top 10 next year.

klw
08-12-2011, 10:24 AM
20, 21, 30 all will see big jumps in the next ranking in my guess.

Benihana
08-12-2011, 10:28 AM
20, 21, 30 all will see big jumps in the next ranking in my guess.

For sure those are the biggest. I would add 37 and 45 after those three.

mace
08-12-2011, 10:37 AM
27 probably deserves better, as well.

lollipopcurve
08-12-2011, 11:15 AM
27 probably deserves better, as well.

Oh yeah. Way underrated at this point, IMO.

HokieRed
08-12-2011, 12:04 PM
Agree with all the numbers I've seen so far and will add in 45. He should go much higher.

GOYA
08-12-2011, 02:40 PM
Phipps. He's been hitting long enough that it doesn't look like a fluke.

medford
08-12-2011, 02:51 PM
guillion is going to drop. Duran will climb a little, push towards top 10 perhaps.

mace
08-12-2011, 03:25 PM
Duran will climb a little, push towards top 10 perhaps.

Who goes higher--Duran or Waldrop? Duran is a couple months older. I think I'd have to go with Waldrop. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd have to go with Waldrop.

That said, Duran's season has been very encouraging.

klw
08-12-2011, 03:51 PM
1, 4, 7, 9, 10, 19 are all with the MLB team and will lose their prospect status in my guess. Only one maybe going back down is Alonso if they decide playing may actually be beneficial. How long until we hear Alonso down, Valaika up?

klw
08-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Drops I think will include 3,11,14,23,25, 34

fearofpopvol1
08-12-2011, 04:05 PM
How about backwards? Easily Yorman for my money.

Edd Roush
08-12-2011, 04:07 PM
Drops I think will include 3,11,14,23,25, 34

I agree, klw. The only person I think could stay the same would be Fleury at 34. I can't believe he has only got 186 PAs. He hasn't been slugging this year, but is still sporting a .376 OBP. I guess that's what happens when you are in the minors at the same position as Mesoraco, Grandal, Coddington (.896 OPS at high A) and Barnhart.

AWA85
08-12-2011, 04:24 PM
How about backwards? Easily Yorman for my money.

I could see Yorman as a Neftali Soto path. Came in as superstar prospect, fades of for a year or two then emerges later on again. At least that is what I am hoping from him. i was big on Yorman having a big year this year, but his inability to stay healthy is really starting to make me wonder.

dougdirt
08-12-2011, 04:56 PM
How about backwards? Easily Yorman for my money.

Based on what?! He is an 18 year old hitting .260 in full season ball and has gone through stretches where he really flashes stuff. Top it off with top of the line tools.... I just don't see him dropping much at all. He is in my Top 5 still.

fearofpopvol1
08-12-2011, 06:18 PM
Based on what?! He is an 18 year old hitting .260 in full season ball and has gone through stretches where he really flashes stuff. Top it off with top of the line tools.... I just don't see him dropping much at all. He is in my Top 5 still.

Injuries and attitude (or lack there of), something redsof72 has noted multiple times.

I think he's still a good prospect and I haven't given up on him. But the 3rd best in the system? No way.

HokieRed
08-12-2011, 06:42 PM
When Yorman's 21 and in the major leagues, I'm sure we'll see "When is Yorman R. going to start hitting?" threads. I don't see him dropping at all.

klw
08-12-2011, 07:09 PM
I see Yorman dropping but not too far, ex. to the 6-10 range.

RED VAN HOT
08-12-2011, 08:30 PM
IMO, Brodie Greene belongs on the list. .290 BA, 12 HR, 29 SB in 37 attempts, versatile in the field. He can be a 4th OF'er, 5th IF'er, as well as useful PH and runner...not elite in any one area, but nevertheless a very useful type of player to have on a ML roster.

HokieRed
08-12-2011, 08:54 PM
IMO, Brodie Greene belongs on the list. .290 BA, 12 HR, 29 SB in 37 attempts, versatile in the field. He can be a 4th OF'er, 5th IF'er, as well as useful PH and runner...not elite in any one area, but nevertheless a very useful type of player to have on a ML roster.

Agree 100%.

izzy's dad
08-13-2011, 09:16 AM
Let's not forget about Mr. Mesoraco. In my opinion he is our number 1 prospect. I love this guys game. Brian McCann 2.0, more athletic,no love handles, and better eyesight. There is no question in my mind that his bat will lead to several All Star appearances. Yes, I have a man crush on Devin Mesoraco.