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Kingspoint
04-12-2011, 02:33 AM
It wasn't really that long ago, as many of you can say that your Grandfather's Grandfather was impacted personally by the war.


Bombardment at Fort Sumter Launches US Civil War

When Abraham Lincoln took office on March 4, 1861, he feared that civil war was inevitable. Six weeks later, at 4:30AM on April 12, 1861, a mortar shell was fired at Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, justifying his fears. On April 14, after a 34-hour bombardment, Fort Sumter surrendered and the War Between the States began.

That first shot was fired after Major Robert Anderson, commander of U.S. troops stationed at the fort, refused an evacuation edict from General Beauregard, commander of Confederate troops in Charleston. Beauregard had been one of Anderson's students at West Point. This would be the first of countless times in the years to follow where former comrades met across battle lines, brothers battled brothers, and friends fought against friends.
Nobody was killed in that first attack, yet it would lead to America's bloodiest war. Photography was a new medium, and for the first time, shocking wartime images could be readily viewed by the public. Before the war, Mathew Brady had already gained fame with his photographic portraits of prominent men and women. In fact, Lincoln is credited with saying, "Make no mistake, gentlemen, Brady made me President!" as Brady's photo of him, was printed on his campaign materials.

http://go.footnote.com/civilwar/?xid=1007

zonefans
04-12-2011, 04:39 AM
:thumbup: Thanks for share !

redsmetz
04-12-2011, 07:07 AM
Smithsonian Magazine had a good article this month on this. I've been meaning to share it.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/Fort-Sumter-The-Civil-War-Begins.html

oneupper
04-12-2011, 07:28 AM
Perhaps in another 50 years, that war could be over.

cumberlandreds
04-12-2011, 09:38 AM
If anyone is coming to DC you might want to check this out at the Library of Congress.

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2341659

westofyou
04-12-2011, 01:19 PM
Free stuff - http://go.footnote.com/civilwar/?xid=1007


FWIW Some of my people left Prussia in the late 1840's to avoid war only to end up wearing blue for New York 15 years later.

reds1869
04-12-2011, 01:38 PM
Free stuff - http://go.footnote.com/civilwar/?xid=1007


FWIW Some of my people left Prussia in the late 1840's to avoid war only to end up wearing blue for New York 15 years later.

Same here. I think it is hard to appreciate just how heavily immigrants fueled the war effort.

Raisor
04-12-2011, 10:06 PM
Same here. I think it is hard to appreciate just how heavily immigrants fueled the war effort.

Immigrants would get off the boat in NY and walk right into the army.

Kingspoint
04-12-2011, 10:14 PM
For those who've never read it and are interested, here's the correspondence that took place between Anderson and Beuaregard before the first shot was fired:

http://www.civilwararchive.com/RESEARCH1/1861/sumterusa.htm

VR
04-13-2011, 02:59 AM
April 12th......

The Civil War begins,1861

President Franklin D. Roosevelt dies, 1945

First man in space, 1961

First launching of the space shuttle, 1981

and....most importantly...my father was born 90 years ago, 1921

reds1869
04-13-2011, 09:40 AM
For those who've never read it and are interested, here's the correspondence that took place between Anderson and Beuaregard before the first shot was fired:

http://www.civilwararchive.com/RESEARCH1/1861/sumterusa.htm

The level of cordiality in the commanders' correspondence is breathtaking. I am always amazed at just how polite the diplomacy of war was during the Victorian Era. Of course, war never changes once the shooting starts.

Oxblood
04-13-2011, 12:54 PM
I'm watching the Ken Burns Civil War Docu as we speak, should be starting episode 5 tonight. It's just excellent stuff, can't get enough of it.

cumberlandreds
04-13-2011, 03:13 PM
I'm watching the Ken Burns Civil War Docu as we speak, should be starting episode 5 tonight. It's just excellent stuff, can't get enough of it.

That may be the best documentary evert made. I watched it when it was first released around 1990. I could watch any episode at anytime.

Raisor
04-13-2011, 09:16 PM
That may be the best documentary evert made. I watched it when it was first released around 1990. I could watch any episode at anytime.

I own the 4 disc DVD but I'm tempted to do something I never do, buy the newest version.

One of these days I'm going to read Shelby Foote's civil war books.

Kingspoint
04-13-2011, 09:25 PM
The level of cordiality in the commanders' correspondence is breathtaking. I am always amazed at just how polite the diplomacy of war was during the Victorian Era. Of course, war never changes once the shooting starts.

And, Anderson was Beauregard's teacher at WestPoint at one time even though Anderson was a Major now and Beauregard was a General.

GAC
04-14-2011, 05:31 AM
Anyone planning on going to see the new Redford movie "The Conspirator" which comes out tomorrow?

OldRightHander
04-14-2011, 02:10 PM
Anyone planning on going to see the new Redford movie "The Conspirator" which comes out tomorrow?

I'll probably see it sometime in the next couple weeks.

cumberlandreds
04-14-2011, 02:19 PM
I own the 4 disc DVD but I'm tempted to do something I never do, buy the newest version.

One of these days I'm going to read Shelby Foote's civil war books.


I have his books but they just too big and intimidating to read. Maybe someday I'll get to them. He made that series though. He was entertaining as well as informative.

SunDeck
04-14-2011, 02:26 PM
And, Anderson was Beauregard's teacher at WestPoint at one time even though Anderson was a Major now and Beauregard was a General.

Great book about the class of 1846, from which Stonewall Jackson, George McClellen and George Pickett graduated. So many officers from both sides, of course, came out of West Point.

http://ca.pbsstatic.com/l/48/5948/9780446515948.jpg

Kingspoint
04-14-2011, 07:08 PM
Great book about the class of 1846, from which Stonewall Jackson, George McClellen and George Pickett graduated. So many officers from both sides, of course, came out of West Point.

http://ca.pbsstatic.com/l/48/5948/9780446515948.jpg

I'll definitely have to read that.

For those who don't know, and this is directly tied to REDSZONE, Abner Doubleday was one of the Officers who defended Fort Sumter when it was fired on.

And, guess how many Officers were at the Fort at the time?

Yes, Nine. There were nine Officers in defense of the fort. Coincidence?

Kingspoint
04-14-2011, 07:10 PM
Anyone planning on going to see the new Redford movie "The Conspirator" which comes out tomorrow?

Saw the preview last week at the theater and it made me not want to see it, as it looked like one of Oliver Stone's silly attempts to rewrite history. At least, that's the way the preview was trying to slant the story, which doesn't necessarily mean it's the way the movie turns out to be.

I'll see it when it comes out of the theaters, though.

GAC
04-15-2011, 05:34 AM
Saw the preview last week at the theater and it made me not want to see it, as it looked like one of Oliver Stone's silly attempts to rewrite history. At least, that's the way the preview was trying to slant the story, which doesn't necessarily mean it's the way the movie turns out to be.

I'll see it when it comes out of the theaters, though.

I read where the original script was started back in 1993, and that the storyline evolved somewhat over the years to present with the emphasis placed on the "mood" of the country at that time vs today with the populace's "fears" surrounding terrorism, and trying them before military tribunals.

Kingspoint
04-15-2011, 04:26 PM
I read where the original script was started back in 1993, and that the storyline evolved somewhat over the years to present with the emphasis placed on the "mood" of the country at that time vs today with the populace's "fears" surrounding terrorism, and trying them before military tribunals.

That explains a lot, and that's what I gathered from the preview.