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Maker_84
04-13-2011, 12:39 PM
best 2nd basemen in baseball? don't bring up just offensive stats either because Bphil brings so much more with his glove (i highly doubt any other 2b makes that play last night) and his ability to steal bases.

Ohioballplayer
04-13-2011, 12:45 PM
One of the best, got to give him top 3 bragging rights, and is off to a nice start, maybe we will see a gold glove and a silver slugger this year. It's nice to see him setting the table for one Joey Votto. This team reminds me a little of the 1990 team, lots of spark and never give up in their game, very interesting to watch and root for!!

Parliament
04-13-2011, 12:45 PM
Right now his OPS is .940

He's having a fantastic start to the 2011 season.

Maker_84
04-13-2011, 01:19 PM
only person i think compares is Cano, no other 2nd baseman is the complete package

Carolina_Redleg
04-13-2011, 01:25 PM
I love BP. He plays the game hard, and you can really tell he leaves it all out there on the field. I know he's been ragged in the past for his hustle, but you can tell he just enjoys playing the game.

Right now I'd say he's top 3 2B in the league. He can do everything. I'd love to see him back into the 30/30 club, but I don't think that's going to happen. But he's still reaching base at a great clip and his glovework is phenomenal.

bounty37h
04-13-2011, 02:01 PM
On top of being a great player he is one of the most fan friendly players in the league.

texasdave
04-13-2011, 02:04 PM
A true "game-saving' play last night. Hats off.

Reds
04-13-2011, 02:51 PM
best in the national league. hats off to BP

Cant Touch This
04-13-2011, 03:48 PM
I haven't watched Cano enough to form an opinion. It's easy to look up some stats to make a judgment on his offense, but how does he compare defensively to Phillips? I'm not looking for a statistical response - just an eye test.

Stray
04-13-2011, 03:53 PM
When he's healthy he's a heck of a ball player and you can count on his gold glove defense night in and night out. I'm not sure which way the organization will go, but to me it seems like he'd be impossible to replace. I'd like to see him wearing a Reds uni for many more years.

And like someone else mentioned, he's great with the fans.

Sean_CaseyRules
04-13-2011, 04:15 PM
I'd like to see BPeezy in a Reds uniform for the rest of his career. (He's even said the same thing) It just seems like he LOVES this city and the fans. And the dude can pick at 2nd better than anyone else in the NL. He puts fans in the seats, and interacts with them daily on Twitter and in person. He reminds me of Sean Casey, the way he is with the fans. GREAT addition to the team.

HitByPitch
04-13-2011, 04:54 PM
The play BP made last night was the most incredible play I've seen in years. Watch the replay...bare hand, up the middle, making a perfect throw with enough on it to get him at first...remarkable! If you have ever played middle infield you know how difficult it is to throw the opposite direction that your momemtum is taking you. The fact that the game was on the line with that play makes it even more incredible. I may be biased, but IMO he's the best in either league right now all around. Very glad he's playing for the good guys.

redssince75
04-13-2011, 04:59 PM
I'd like to see BPeezy in a Reds uniform for the rest of his career.

BPeezy? Really? Never heard that one. lol

Cant Touch This
04-13-2011, 05:04 PM
The play BP made last night was the most incredible play I've seen in years. Watch the replay...bare hand, up the middle, making a perfect throw with enough on it to get him at first...remarkable! If you have ever played middle infield you know how difficult it is to throw the opposite direction that your momemtum is taking you. The fact that the game was on the line with that play makes it even more incredible. I may be biased, but IMO he's the best in either league right now all around. Very glad he's playing for the good guys.

I can honestly say it is one of the best plays I've ever seen made by a second baseman. I played that position for many, many years from little league to amateur ball and there is no harder throw to make than that one. Not only did he have some mustard on it, but the throw was right on target. All of that after he bare-handed a not-all-that-softly-hit ground ball cleanly. Amazing.

And BPeezy is a moniker that needs to die an instant, very painful death. Sorry Sean_Casey_Rules! :D

Simon Rhymon
04-13-2011, 05:08 PM
Cano is probably a better hitter, but BP runs circles around him defensively. I guess you can argue that Cano has more power and hits for a better avg so that offsets BP's defensive superiority, but if you are a Reds' fan .... just ignore the argument. :laugh: Ya gotta love BP.

mlh1981
04-13-2011, 06:38 PM
For the longest time, I would have put Chase Utley over Phillips, but he's starting to get banged up a lot these days.

Natty Redlocks
04-13-2011, 07:13 PM
BP on the Griffey/Dunn Reds drove me nuts. BP on the Rolen/Votto Reds makes me happy.

gedred69
04-13-2011, 08:44 PM
BP on the Griffey/Dunn Reds drove me nuts. BP on the Rolen/Votto Reds makes me happy.

Good insight. Those two really affected this team in a less than positive way. (That ought to get some attacks)..... But, I think the real things to point out are, other posters and myself pointed out that Phillips, a free swinger is ideally suited to hit in the 2 spot in front of Votto. No lead-off, no 4th, he bats 2nd. Next, as Buck Showalter said on Baseball Tonight last year after showing a great Phillips play on Web Gems, "This guy is a daily highlight reel all to himself". IMO, there is no one as good. He's in a class by himself.

Sean_CaseyRules
04-14-2011, 01:21 AM
BPeezy? Really? Never heard that one. lol

yeah haha. I got a Twitter account to follow some sports guys, and he gets called that sometimes on there, and it's definitely my favorite one haha

signalhome
04-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Good insight. Those two really affected this team in a less than positive way. (That ought to get some attacks)..... But, I think the real things to point out are, other posters and myself pointed out that Phillips, a free swinger is ideally suited to hit in the 2 spot in front of Votto. No lead-off, no 4th, he bats 2nd. Next, as Buck Showalter said on Baseball Tonight last year after showing a great Phillips play on Web Gems, "This guy is a daily highlight reel all to himself". IMO, there is no one as good. He's in a class by himself.

I don't understand how Dunn affected the team in a negative way. I've heard for years that Griffey was a bit of a jerk in the clubhouse so that I can understand, but I've never heard anything negative said about Dunn.

Natty Redlocks
04-14-2011, 03:34 PM
I don't understand how Dunn affected the team in a negative way. I've heard for years that Griffey was a bit of a jerk in the clubhouse so that I can understand, but I've never heard anything negative said about Dunn.

It's not about being a jerk; it's about being a leader. Dunn himself said after he was traded to AZ that he was surprised at how excited they were to be in a pennant race, and that now he wanted to play for contenders. I never had a problem with him the way I did with Jr. but the effect Rolen has had on this team is an indictment of the La-Z-Boy leadership, IMO.