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mace
05-11-2011, 01:37 PM
Carolina's down 5-0 after one. It's the first start for Kyle McCullough, just sent down from Louisville.

Ouch.

muddie
05-11-2011, 02:51 PM
He's just trying to prove that he can fit in on this club. Looks like he's doing a good job.

Actually, Daryl Thompson pitched well last night...another bullpen implosion.

cinreds21
05-11-2011, 03:06 PM
I guess McCullough is taking Webb's place in the rotation.

cinreds21
05-11-2011, 03:06 PM
5-2 now. Webb in.

cinreds21
05-11-2011, 03:40 PM
Mudcats lose 5-2. Webb and Medina provided five scoreless innings out of the bullpen today.

mace
05-11-2011, 04:35 PM
Mudcats lose 5-2. Webb and Medina provided five scoreless innings out of the bullpen today.

Webb struck out nine in five innings. Didn't see that coming.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 07:59 PM
Bats @ Red Wings

Cozart SS .244
Alonso 1B .300
Francisco DH .300
Frazier 3B .277
Hermida RF .327
Mesoraco C .280
Dorn LF .257
Clevlen CF .000
Negron 2B .196

Reineke is pitching

GOYA
05-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Bats down 1-0 after 1

dougdirt
05-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Bakersfield is in an afternoon (for them) contest. Yasmani Grandal had a solo HR (8). Blaze down 3-2.

dougdirt
05-11-2011, 08:32 PM
Just turned on the internet broadcast of the Blaze game. They are down 10-2 in the 3rd. Not entirely sure what happened, but I turned it back off.

mace
05-11-2011, 08:33 PM
A HR by Donald Lutz, following a walk to Yorman, has Dayton up 2-0 after two. Vidal has doubled. Daniel Tuttle is pitching (nicely).

GOYA
05-11-2011, 08:49 PM
Yonder triples in Cozart

2-1 Red Wings in the 3rd

mace
05-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Yonder triples in Cozart

2-1 Red Wings in the 3rd

Alonso tripled?

GOYA
05-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Besides the Grandal HR, Bakersfield has HRs by Henry Rodriguez and Campbell.


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Partch 2.2 11 10 10 0 2 2 7.18

mace
05-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Just turned on the internet broadcast of the Blaze game. They are down 10-2 in the 3rd. Not entirely sure what happened, but I turned it back off.

Campbell and Henry Rodriguez have also homered (in addition to Grandal), but Bakersfield still trails 10-4. LaMarre (2 for 2) remains hot. Curtis Partch is not.

Edit: Dang, Goya.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 08:59 PM
:wave:

GOYA
05-11-2011, 09:04 PM
Mes just homered to tie it up at 2-2

It was Devin's first HR since the first week of the season.

mace
05-11-2011, 09:09 PM
In the fifth, Daniel Tuttle gave up his first hit of the evening. Still 2-0 Dayton.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 09:25 PM
Bats get 3 on Clevlen and Cozarts singles and a Yonder HR

5-2 Bats in the 5th

HokieRed
05-11-2011, 09:30 PM
Bats get 3 on Clevlen and Cozarts singles and a Yonder HR

5-2 Bats in the 5th

Are we sure Yonder can't play LF?

reds44
05-11-2011, 09:38 PM
Are we sure Yonder can't play LF?
Me thinks we may find out eventually.

mace
05-11-2011, 09:41 PM
Lutz's second HR of the night puts Dayton up 3-0 in the seventh.

Tuttle is finished: 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K.

mace
05-11-2011, 09:42 PM
Bakersfield is chipping away. It's now 10-6, Visalia, and LaMarre is 3 for 3 (with a 3B), suddenly batting .303.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:04 PM
Are we sure Yonder can't play LF?

Picture Corky in left.

mace
05-11-2011, 10:12 PM
Bakersfield is chipping away. It's now 10-6, Visalia, and LaMarre is 3 for 3 (with a 3B), suddenly batting .303.

So much for chipping. Make that 15-6.

reds44
05-11-2011, 10:27 PM
Picture Corky in left.

http://www.tireball.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/gomes.jpg

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:28 PM
Cozart, Alonso, Hermida and Dorn are all 2 for 4.

Bats lead 6-3 in the 8th.

HokieRed
05-11-2011, 10:31 PM
Picture Corky in left.

That's not pretty. It can't be that bad.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:36 PM
Yonder just doubled. He's a single short of the cycle.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:37 PM
Francisco knocks in Yonder.

7-3 Bats

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:45 PM
Dayton won 3-1

Caveat Emperor
05-11-2011, 10:48 PM
That's not pretty. It can't be that bad.

Shade Stubbs and Bruce over towards left. Hope for the best.

GOYA
05-11-2011, 10:52 PM
Bats win 7-3

mace
05-11-2011, 11:09 PM
Just noticed that Alex Buchholz played his first game of the season tonight for Bakersfield, which lost 17-8. He was 0 for 3 with a walk. And Stephen Hunt didn't play for the second straight night against a lefty starter.

Partial edit: Hunt pitched an inning. Gave up one run.

corkedbat
05-12-2011, 12:45 AM
Bakersfield is chipping away. It's now 10-6, Visalia, and LaMarre is 3 for 3 (with a 3B), suddenly batting .303.

LaMarre is one of the position players I'd most like to see have a breakout season. It woould be a big boost to the system, IMO.

Tony Cloninger
05-12-2011, 01:16 AM
He's just trying to prove that he can fit in on this club. Looks like he's doing a good job.

Actually, Daryl Thompson pitched well last night...another bullpen implosion.

Did they not put anyone of value at Double A?

camisadelgolf
05-12-2011, 04:36 AM
Did they not put anyone of value at Double A?
They sure are trying. Just look at the age discrepancies between AAA and AA:

22.89 Devin Mesoraco 23.81 Kevin Coddington
26.89 Danny Dorn 27.67 Mike Costanzo
25.27 Kris Negron 25.92 Jake Kahaulelio
25.24 Todd Frazier 27.25 Eric Eymann (before the injuries)
25.74 Zack Cozart 22.21 Miguel Rojas
24.09 Yonder Alonso 24.10 Cody Puckett
24.35 Dave Sappelt 26.49 Felix Perez
27.28 Jeremy Hermida 29.80 David Cook
And that's not to mention Chris Denove, Quintin Berry, and Denis Phipps . . .

_Sir_Charles_
05-12-2011, 09:44 AM
Picture Corky in left.

LOL. Great image. :laugh:

_Sir_Charles_
05-12-2011, 09:45 AM
Shade Stubbs and Bruce over towards left. Hope for the best.

Have Janish play a DEEEEEEP shortstop. ;)

Tony Cloninger
05-12-2011, 11:18 AM
They sure are trying. Just look at the age discrepancies between AAA and AA:

22.89 Devin Mesoraco 23.81 Kevin Coddington
26.89 Danny Dorn 27.67 Mike Costanzo
25.27 Kris Negron 25.92 Jake Kahaulelio
25.24 Todd Frazier 27.25 Eric Eymann (before the injuries)
25.74 Zack Cozart 22.21 Miguel Rojas
24.09 Yonder Alonso 24.10 Cody Puckett
24.35 Dave Sappelt 26.49 Felix Perez
27.28 Jeremy Hermida 29.80 David Cook
And that's not to mention Chris Denove, Quintin Berry, and Denis Phipps . . .

Yet they are still pretty bad....reminds me of the Reds system in AAA during the late 90's....a bunch of nothing.

Benihana
05-12-2011, 11:28 AM
While it is nitpicking at best, I am actually somewhat concerned about the state of the minors below AAA. We have enjoyed great success up until now, and that is a big part of the reason the system is so bare below AAA, but other than 2 or 3 guys, there is nothing to get excited about in Bakersfield and Carolina.

We have a couple of really young guys that have huge ceilings (Hamilton, Y-Rod, Duran, Guillon) in Dayton, but there is a pretty large gaping hole of talent in the 20-23 year old age range in the system. Mez, Grandal, LaMarre, and that's about it. Again, maybe it's picking nits, but I like to point out weaknesses so that we can look to address them.

camisadelgolf
05-12-2011, 12:55 PM
While it is nitpicking at best, I am actually somewhat concerned about the state of the minors below AAA. We have enjoyed great success up until now, and that is a big part of the reason the system is so bare below AAA, but other than 2 or 3 guys, there is nothing to get excited about in Bakersfield and Carolina.

We have a couple of really young guys that have huge ceilings (Hamilton, Y-Rod, Duran, Guillon) in Dayton, but there is a pretty large gaping hole of talent in the 20-23 year old age range in the system. Mez, Grandal, LaMarre, and that's about it. Again, maybe it's picking nits, but I like to point out weaknesses so that we can look to address them.
I'm actually not worried at all. Let's assume the following players won't be around next year (and some of them will be):
C Ramon Hernandez
C Corky Miller
C Chris Denove
C James Skelton
C Chase Weems
C Jordan Wideman
1B Chris Richburg
1B Jonathan Kaskow
1B/3B Eric Eymann
1B/3B Mike Costanzo
1B/3B Carlos Mendez
3B Frank Pfister
3B Eric Campbell
SS Edgar Renteria
IF Jose Castro
IF Jose Gualdron
OF Jonny Gomes
OF Brent Clevlen
OF Brian Barton
OF Jeremy Hermida
OF Quintin Berry
OF Denis Phipps
OF David Cook
OF Welinton Ramirez
OF Drew Poulk
UT Mike Griffin
SP James Avery
SP Tom Cochran
SP Chad Reineke
SP Justin Lehr
SP Dontrelle Willis
SP Daryl Thompson
SP Matt Maloney
RP Francisco Cordero
RP David Johnson
RP Jerry Gil
RP Ruben Medina
RP James Adkins
RP Kyle McCulloch
RP Carlos Fisher
RP Daniel Ray Herrera
RP Drew Bowman
RP Scott Gaffney
RP Mike Henry
RP Tyree Hayes
RP Doug Salinas
RP Jason Braun
RP Aguido Gonzalez
RP Derrik Lutz
RP Tzu-Kai Chiu
RP Blair Carson
RP Luca Panerati

That would leave the minors pretty thin, right? Well, keep in mind that that's not including the undrafted players from this year. That's also not to mention minor league free agents and trades. Even with all that pessimism, here's something how the rosters will shape up next year:

AGE MLB AGE AAA AGE AA AGE A+ AGE A
C 31.62 Ryan Hanigan 24.70 KevinCoddington 23.39 Yasmani Grandal 21.23 Tucker Barnhart 23.43 Danny Vicioso
1B 28.56 Joey Votto 24.98 Yonder Alonso 23.09 Neftali Soto 23.27 Dominic D'Anna 23.45 Robert Maddox
2B 30.76 BrandonPhillips 26.16 Kris Negron 22.14 Henry Rodriguez 22.97 Devin Lohman 19.58 Ronald Torreyes
3B 36.99 Scott Rolen 26.13 Todd Frazier 24.50 Alex Buchholz 22.44 David Vidal 20.23 Junior Arias
SS 29.47 Paul Janish 26.64 Zack Cozart 24.52 Brodie Greene 22.12 Didi Gregorius 21.53 Billy Hamilton
LF 31.31 Fred Lewis 25.00 Cody Puckett 24.02 Josh Fellhauer 23.11 Jaren Matthews 20.35 Kyle Waldrop
CF 27.49 Drew Stubbs 25.25 Dave Sappelt 23.36 Ryan LaMarre 21.66 Theo Bowe 19.63 Yorman Rodriguez
RF 25.00 Jay Bruce 27.78 Danny Dorn 23.22 Stephen Hunt 23.15 Donald Lutz 20.58 Juan Duran
C 23.78 Devin Mesoraco 25.47 Chris McMurray 23.91 Mark Fleury 24.18 Chris Berset 22.39 Yovan Gonzalez
2B 26.63 Chris Valaika 26.82 Jake Kahaulelio 24.94 Adam Muenster
3B 24.77 Juan Francisco
SS 23.10 Miguel Rojas
OF 27.30 Chris Heisey 27.38 Felix Perez 25.56 Andrew Means 23.93 Josh Garton 21.23 Juan Silva
OF 25.72 Kyle Day 22.74 Kurt Muller
UT 37.91 Miguel Cairo 24.99 Shane Carlson 21.96 Jefry Sierra 21.09 Samuel Diaz

SP 35.10 Bronson Arroyo 24.73 Matt Fairel 26.55 Mark Serrano 22.44 Kyle Lotzkar 21.59 Mitch Clarke
SP 26.12 Johnny Cueto 27.52 Scott Carroll 24.19 Josh Ravin 24.65 Josh Smith 21.55 Jake Johnson
SP 28.75 Edinson Volquez 27.48 Matt Klinker 25.56 Clay Shunick 23.10 Tanner Robles 21.55 Jonathan Correa
SP 25.91 Homer Bailey 27.39 Dallas Buck 24.31 PedroVillarreal 22.74 Dan Renken 20.13 Ismael Guillon
SP 25.15 Travis Wood 24.39 Mike Leake 22.39 J.C. Sulbaran 21.60 Dan Corcino 20.54 Wes Mugarian
SP 27.91 Sam LeCure 26.00 JordanHotchkiss 25.48 Lance Janke 21.61 Dan Tuttle 23.60 Stalin Gerson
RP 24.09 Aroldis Chapman 26.15 Jordan Smith 23.85 Brad Boxberger 23.87 Brian Pearl 22.34 Porfirio Martinez
RP 29.88 Nick Masset 27.66 Travis Webb 24.99 Mace Thurman 24.11 Tim Crabbe 23.62 Dan Wolford
RP 28.82 Bill Bray 25.13 Phil Valiquette 25.44 Justin Freeman 22.66 Chad Rogers 23.59 Kevin Arico
RP 28.01 Jose Arredondo 27.29 Lee Tabor 24.71 Nick Christiani 24.91 Jamie Walczak 23.58 Matt Leonard
RP 27.13 Logan Ondrusek 27.55 Joe Krebs 25.13 Curtis Partch 24.58 Drew Hayes 23.35 Lucas O'Rear
RP 30.83 Jared Burton 26.50 Jeremy Horst 24.71 Chase Ware 23.89 Pat Doyle 22.41 Ryan Smith
RP 24.42 Donnie Joseph 23.50 Blaine Howell 23.58 EzequielInfante 20.85 Tony Amezcua
Where are the weaknesses? If Bakersfield goes into 2012 with that outfield, they could be in trouble, but there's more than a decent chance that Yorman Rodriguez or Juan Duran could step up to take some of those at-bats.