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GOYA
05-12-2011, 01:01 PM
Bats @ Rochester

Cozart SS .250
Griffin, M 2B .257
Alonso LF .313
Frazier 3B .276
Dorn RF .267
Mesoraco DH .281
Clevlen CF .125
Miller, C C .216
Eymann 1B .184

Tom Cochran pitches against the Twins top pitching prospect, Kyle Gibson.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 01:07 PM
Cozart doubles to get things going

GOYA
05-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Frazier 2-run HR

GOYA
05-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Leadoff triple for Rochester but Cochran pitches out of it

Bats up 2-0 after 1

davereds24
05-12-2011, 01:28 PM
is Juan's rehab over or is this a scheduled day off?

_Sir_Charles_
05-12-2011, 01:34 PM
Frazier is ripping the cover off the ball right now. I'm loving it!

GOYA
05-12-2011, 01:42 PM
It isn't over as far as time. Probably a day off.

Eymann HR.

3-0 Bats in the top of the 3rd

GOYA
05-12-2011, 02:05 PM
Dorn doubled and Clevlen knocks him in

4-0 Bats

edit: It is a confirmed day off for Francisco

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2011, 02:07 PM
Baseball America on Yonder Alonso:


The way Yonder Alonso is hitting for Triple-A Louisville, the Reds either have their left fielder of the future or one of baseball's most valuable trade chips.

Playing in Rochester yesterday, Alonso hit a home run, a triple and a double yesterday, taking his averages up to .313/.362/.530 through 30 games. At 24, Alonso has a good approach, uses the middle of the field and has the power to hit 20-plus home runs. Alonso's defense isn't Raul Ibanez/Lance Berkman bad, but he's still a slow-footed outfielder and a defensive liability. Still, the Reds are living with Jonny Gomes' well-below-average defense in left field as he


http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2011/05/daily-dish-yonder-alonso-raking-in-triple-a/

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 02:10 PM
So now it's Yonder in left and not Sapp? I'm down

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 02:10 PM
Frazier is ripping the cover off the ball right now. I'm loving it!

As am I.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 02:11 PM
Cochran has now pitched 17 consecutive shutout innings.

(no jinx, no jinx, no jinx)

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 02:13 PM
Before that homerun, Frazier was hitting .395 in his last 9 games.

dougdirt
05-12-2011, 02:13 PM
So now it's Yonder in left and not Sapp? I'm down

Sappelt's injury may have cost him a chance, but likely his lack of a 40 man spot was going to do so first.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 02:16 PM
I jinxed him.

4-1 Bats

Now 4-2 Bats after 4

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 02:24 PM
Sappelt's injury may have cost him a chance, but likely his lack of a 40 man spot was going to do so first.

Oh yea, I forgot Sapp is hurt.

_Sir_Charles_
05-12-2011, 02:47 PM
So now it's Yonder in left and not Sapp? I'm down

Isn't Sappelt still out with an oblique injury?

~edit~ Nevermind...I see Doug caught it.

dougdirt
05-12-2011, 02:50 PM
I jinxed him.

4-1 Bats

Now 4-2 Bats after 4

You had to know what you were doing there lol :laugh:

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 02:53 PM
If this was a big league game, or playoff game, I'd recommend that GOYA gets banned.

You're lucky it wasn't, bruh :)

GOYA
05-12-2011, 02:59 PM
Guilty as charged. :laugh:

Two on, one out for Frazier in the top of the 7th.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:01 PM
Walk and they're loaded for Dorn.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:02 PM
Dorn singles and it's 5-2 Bats. Still loaded for Mesoraco.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:03 PM
Soft liner to 2B and it's up to Clevlen with 2 outs.

Clevlen K's and the Bats miss a big opportunity.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:19 PM
Gil in to pitch and he holds them scoreless in the 7th.

It might be a stretch but I kind of see Gil as Chapman-Light. Great velocity but has serious command problems. The one thing that ruins the comparison is that Gil lacks that jaw-dropping slider.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:34 PM
Frazier just doubled off the wall.
Yonder at 3B, Frazier at 2B for Dorn.

Dorn K

Mes will be walked

Up to Clevlen again with 2 outs.

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:37 PM
Clevlen K'ed again.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2011, 03:40 PM
Alonso: 2-for-3 two walks...now hitting .322 with a .912 OPS

Frazier: 2-for-4 double, HR (#8), walk...now hitting .283 with a .936 OPS

GOYA
05-12-2011, 03:47 PM
Bats win 5-2


Player Pos AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Cozart SS 5 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 .255
Griffin, M 2B 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .244
Alonso LF 3 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 .322
Frazier 3B 4 1 2 1 0 1 2 1 0 .283
Dorn RF 4 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 1 .275
Mesoraco DH 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .270
Clevlen CF 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 .154
Miller, C C 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .200
Eymann 1B 4 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 2 .190

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Cochran (W, 5-0) 6.0 3 2 2 4 2 0 1.66
Gil (H, 2) 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 3.68
Smith, J (S, 2) 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 03:51 PM
You're lucky this time GOYA. Watch yourself though.

:)

klw
05-12-2011, 05:02 PM
0-4 for Mesoraco. Its been a rough week for him. Hopefully they didn't Harang him by making him catch that whole EI game the other night.

Benihana
05-12-2011, 06:35 PM
IMO, Alonso and Frazier are both ready for the big leagues. Between 3B and LF, it seems we could give them both an extended audition. In the next few months, they need to make a decision to either trade them or give them a shot at the big league level (although I see Frazier's MLB career landing somewhere between Miguel Cairo and Mark DeRosa.) They are 24 and 25 years old respectively and need to start producing value for the big league club, either as a player or as a trade chip.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 08:23 PM
Canadian James Aver (3-3, 4.36 ERA) gets the nod today for the Mudcats.

Berry,8
Rojas,6
Cook,7
Costanzo,DH
Puckett,5
Perez,9
Kahaulelio,3
Castro,4
Coddington,2

reds44
05-12-2011, 08:35 PM
It's time to call Alonso up at let him play in LF.

I refuse to believe he can be that much worse defensively than Gomes.

Stubbs
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Alonso
Catcher
Janish

and have fun

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 08:42 PM
It's time to call Alonso up at let him play in LF.

I refuse to believe he can be that much worse defensively than Gomes.

Stubbs
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Alonso
Catcher
Janish

and have fun

I'm ok with that. Here's my question though. Say they are OK with Yonder being their long-term left fielder and that leads to Sapp either being a backup or trade bait. Who is the long-term lead off man?

Here are my ideas.

1. Keep the line up with Stubbs leading off with BP batting second.

2. Have BP lead off and eventually have Cozart bat second.

3. Acquire a speedy shortstop (Jed Lawrie anyone?) and have him bat leadoff/second.

reds44
05-12-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm ok with that. Here's my question though. Say they are OK with Yonder being their long-term left fielder and that leads to Sapp either being a backup or trade bait. Who is the long-term lead off man?

Here are my ideas.

1. Keep the line up with Stubbs leading off with BP batting second.

2. Have BP lead off and eventually have Cozart bat second.

3. Acquire a speedy shortstop (Jed Lawrie anyone?) and have him bat leadoff/second.
Reyes
Phillips
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Stubbs
Alonso
Catcher

BOOM lol

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 08:49 PM
Or that, 44. lol

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 09:27 PM
0-0 after 1 1/2

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 09:38 PM
Barons push across a run in the second. 1-0 bad guys, top third coming up.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 10:49 PM
3-0 Barons. Bases are loaded in the sixth with no outs and Avery is being relieved by righty Nick Christiani

mace
05-12-2011, 10:51 PM
Great win for Dayton. Down 2-0 after six, Dragons get one in the seventh (Vidal walk, Duran single, Lohman single) and two in the eighth (Bowe walk, D'Anna walk, fielder's choice, two-run single by Duran) to take it 3-2 and move back over .500.

The bullpen was again stellar: Tim Crabbe, 3.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K; and Drew Hayes, 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K. Tanner Robles started.

It's especially nice to see Duran figure so prominently . . . Reports are that Hayes has looked terrific.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 10:52 PM
4-0 Barons on a sack fly.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 10:53 PM
Justin Greene strikes out looking. Two away.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 10:57 PM
White Sox general manger's son, Kenny Williams Jr fouls out to David Cook. Considering it was bases loaded with 0 outs the Mudcats got lucky with only surrendering a single run.

4-0 Barons, top 7 coming up.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 11:04 PM
Mudcats get a lead off single by Mike Costanzo but the "threat" ends with a 4-6-3 double play. 4-0 Barons, middle 7.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 11:14 PM
A two-out triple doesn't hurt Christiani and the Mudcats as the Barons' DH Loman flies out to shallow left.

cinreds21
05-12-2011, 11:41 PM
Mudcats are shutout by the Barons 4-0. The Mudcats only managed three hits.

Righty Dallas Buck gets the rubber match of this five game series in Birmingham on Friday night.

mace
05-13-2011, 12:57 AM
Bakersfield leads 10-2 in the fifth. Stephen Hunt, back in the lineup after being out of it the last two days, is 1 for 1, a single, with 3 RBIs. (He was HBP with the bases loaded.) Now batting .508. Campbell (.410) is 2 for 2. Grandal is the same with a 2B. Brodie Greene, leading off, is 3 for 4 with 4 RBIs and now hitting .336. Sulbaran went four innings.

Caveat Emperor
05-13-2011, 01:17 AM
It's time to call Alonso up at let him play in LF.

Who goes? The logical choice would be Fred Lewis.

GOYA
05-13-2011, 02:03 AM
Campbell hit a HR in the 8th to make it an 11-4 lead.

Will M
05-13-2011, 02:17 AM
Who goes? The logical choice would be Fred Lewis.

If and when Alonso gets called up to play LF then I would let Gomes go.
Heisey stays as the 4th outfielder, late inning defender in left & occasional starter vs left handed pitching.
Lewis stays as LH bench bat.

reds44
05-13-2011, 02:26 AM
Who goes? The logical choice would be Fred Lewis.
Lewis is fine. I wouldn't shed a tear if Gomes went bye bye, but he makes sense to keep if Alonso struggles against lefties.

_Sir_Charles_
05-13-2011, 09:33 AM
I don't get this line of thinking. Why Alonso? We need what positions covered? LF & 3B, right? Send Chris Valaika back down and bring up Frazier instead. Problem solved.

Is there anybody on the Bats' roster who's hotter than Todd?

Yonder: .322/.378/.534/.912 Last 10 games ops 1.097
Todd: .283/.361/.575/.936 Last 10 games ops 1.286

Yonder's experience:
LF-50 games
1B-178 games

Todd's experience:
1B-54 games
2B-37 games
SS-112 games
3B-80 games
LF-167 games

Which guy looks to help us more NOW? I certainly don't see a need for a back up at 1st. 3rd however.
He's also a better defender at each position than Yonder (except 1st).

The DARK
05-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Frazier's window may have passed with Francisco, Rolen, and Janish coming off their injuries; however, if another SS or 3B gets injured this season, i'd much rather see Frazier up than Francisco.

reds44
05-13-2011, 06:49 PM
Alonso is better at baseball than Frazier, that's why.

_Sir_Charles_
05-13-2011, 07:07 PM
Alonso is better at baseball than Frazier, that's why.

At which part of baseball? Swinging the bat? Playing defense? Running the bases? Throwing the ball at distance with velocity?

I'd give you "swinging the bat", but it's not the clear cut win you'd think. As for the other categories...I think he's considerably behind Frazier in them all.

Todd scuffled after the promotion to AAA, but (per the BA article OBM linked) in the second half last year he was considerably better (.854 ops) and this year (.936 ops) he's doing as well as Alonso (.912 ops....last year .820 ops).