5/19 Pirates @ Reds

[Reds]

Thursday 5/19, 12:35 PM ET at Great American Ball Park

Reds Lineup (25-18)

Heisey CF
Renteria SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Cairo 3B
Lewis LF
Hernandez C
Cueto P

Buccos Lineup (19-23)

McCutchen CF
Paul LF
Jones RF
Walker 2B
Overbay 1B
Doumit C
Alvarez 3B
Cedeno SS
McDonald P


The Reds look to avoid being swept for the first time this season.
This is the last game the Pirates play in Cincinnati this season.
The game will be televised on MLB Network.

[redsfan_12]

Id like to know the reasoning behind PIT playing their last game here this season.

With that being said, atleast I get to watch the game on the PIT station :D. With that being muted lol

[Reds]

Id like to know the reasoning behind PIT playing their last game here this season.

With that being said, atleast I get to watch the game on the PIT station :D. With that being muted lol

MLB Network only game as I understand, not sure who's broadcasting.

Also I don't know why the Pirates played here six times so early.. last time it happened like this was in 1981.

[redsfan_12]

dang. The guide is showing it on Fox Pitt or Root sports...

[brm7675]

Can someone let me know when baseball put the rule in place that the CF and SS had to bat first and second.....

[Spaxspore]

as long as they get on base ill be happy.

[Reds]

dang. The guide is showing it on Fox Pitt or Root sports...

Hmm, maybe mlb website was wrong should be on in 1-2 minutes if they're showing it.

[Kiss the Baby00]

mlb channel has been promoting a DH today. Reds and Pirates supposed to be at 12:35. I only heard it about 15 times. It doesnt appear to be on my mlb channel.

[Reds]

MLB network I have access to not showing the game either.

[arkimadee]

the game is scheduled on mlb network..

[arkimadee]

really? thats interesting.. false advertisement mlb!

[Maker_84]

i like this lineup alot

[arkimadee]

how stupid is the name ROOT sports

[Reds]

don't know if they plan to change them all to ROOT or not, what's weird is only 3 or 4 FS changed and it made it confusing for 24 hours or so lol

[arkimadee]

what is on mlb network right now?

[Reds]

for me, prime 9 rerun, online mlb network feed

nice AB for heisey

[arkimadee]

don't know if they plan to change them all to ROOT or not, what's weird is only 3 or 4 FS changed and it made it confusing for 24 hours or so lol
i think its weird that they use FOX graphic package from last year

[redsfan_12]

IDK..but im watching on Root sports, or FS Pitt :D

[redsfan_12]

what a catch

[arkimadee]

are you bleeping kidding me Heisey.. come on

[mlh1981]

McCutchen doing his best Andy Van Slyke impression out there.

[Maker_84]

Heisey being dumb, i hate McCuthcehnjhsdhf

[Reds]

not giving up AB easy so far

[arkimadee]

the only out this guy has so far is a ball that should have been a double. .and it got 2 outs!

[Kiss the Baby00]

can i watch online on the mlb network website?

[Kiss the Baby00]

my mlb network feed is showing the "local" game. mets and nats. except i live in Ohio. awesome fail mlb network

[arkimadee]

well crap.. here we go

[Krawhitham]

what is on mlb network right now?

Time Warner in Cincinnati is showing the game

[arkimadee]

tHROW STRIKES CUETO

[Maker_84]

omg are we ever not going to fall behind in a fricking game? our starting pitching is really starting to suck

[brm7675]

i like this lineup alot

Why?

[Krawhitham]

We need a DP

[arkimadee]

another dam full count

[arkimadee]

this could get ugly

[Maker_84]

another walk. I hate when out pitchers play around with the strike zone

[Krawhitham]

My lord he did not know what the count was, he thought he had a waste pitch but walked him on it

[Krawhitham]

full count with bases loaded

[Maker_84]

omfg

[Krawhitham]

strike 3

[Reds]

k or groundball needed

[arkimadee]

beautiful pitch there.. come on cueto one more..

[Reds]

have to keep your mindset right here, gapper and that K means nothing

[DocRed]

Why?

bleh nm

[Krawhitham]

thank god he was playing so shallow

[arkimadee]

shew... i thought that was a hit..

[Maker_84]

Cueto may have gotten out of it, but still an awful inning for him

[Reds]

bend but don't break

[foxfire123]

WHEW! Got out of a squeaker there!

[DocRed]

Cueto is awesome.

[arkimadee]

Cueto may have gotten out of it, but still an awful inning for him
i wouldn't saw an awful inning.. pitch count will probably let him only go 5 or 6 innings this game though. he wasn't wild.. just unfocused i think

[arkimadee]

Bruce with a GABP homer!

[redsfan_12]

BRUCEEEEEEE

[texasdave]

Jay Freaking Bruce!

[Reds]

heck yeah!

[arkimadee]

could you imagine a roided up mark mcgwire in this park?

[Maker_84]

when's the last time we actually had the lead first? lol

[arkimadee]

when's the last time we actually had the lead first? lol
Saturday if im not mistaking

[texasdave]

i wouldn't saw an awful inning.. pitch count will probably let him only go 5 or 6 innings this game though. he wasn't wild.. just unfocused i think

You pitch once every five days and you can't focus for 100 pitches? That is crazy.

[arkimadee]

and we are 5-1 in that period.. strange

[arkimadee]

i swear if Pedro Alvarez causes us to lose again I'm going to scream and throw something.. lol

[texasdave]

i swear if Pedro Alvarez causes us to lose again I'm going to scream and throw something.. lol

Did I miss something? Where did that come from?

[arkimadee]

just a random thought.. he beat us last night, back in April and if i remember right a game last year.. lol

[arkimadee]

if your name is Xavier Paul you better have a high IQ

[texasdave]

just a random thought.. he beat us last night, back in April and if i remember right a game last year.. lol

Cool.

[texasdave]

How do you live in Cincinnati and not know how to pronounce 'Xavier'?

[arkimadee]

much better inning going on here

[texasdave]

Johnny Bounceback.

[arkimadee]

that makes up somewhat from that high pitch count last inning.. may have got himself another inning there

[Reds]

I always assumed Xavier could be pronounced both ways but only one way is right for each person or university in the case you're talking about TD

the player Xavier Nady nobody ever pronounced his name two ways that i can remember for instance

[arkimadee]

ii pronounce it it Zaviour

[texasdave]

I went to St. Xavier.

[arkimadee]

he beat that damit!

[texasdave]

Cueto running as if his dreads were en fuego.

[arkimadee]

Cueto running as if his dreads were en fuego.
lol Brandon Phillips said on MLB Radio the other day that that was the reason that Volquez had a bad start.. his hair was too long

[texasdave]

It takes an inning before that pre-game joint wears off for Volquez.

[Maker_84]

can we make this scrub throw some freaking pitches?

[texasdave]

Did this game start at 1235? One hour to play three nondescript innings. My pet peeve.

[arkimadee]

how many innings is Cueto at without giving up an ER?

[texasdave]

Pedro Alvarez. Yikes.

[arkimadee]

Thats like getting Pujols out ! lol

[Maker_84]

yay we got a hit

[texasdave]

Phillips needs to be given the red light.

[Maker_84]

Phillips doesn't have the speed anymore. Needs to stop trying to steal

[texasdave]

Everyone in the stadium (aside from Dusty) can see that.

[texasdave]

Johnny Kueto this inning.

[Maker_84]

Johnny Kueto this inning.

not really

[texasdave]

Pirates take the lead.

[redsfan_12]

Jesus :bang:

[Maker_84]

it's games/series like these that make me concerned on how good this team really is. Getting swept by the Pirates is about as awful as you can get. It's gonna suck seeing this team go to Cleveland now with the possibility of getting swept in 2 straight series

[texasdave]

Time to hit that rag-arm they have on the mound.

[arkimadee]

it's games/series like these that make me concerned on how good this team really is. Getting swept by the Pirates is about as awful as you can get. It's gonna suck seeing this team go to Cleveland now with the possibility of getting swept in 2 straight series
the game is not frikin over.. when are you ever going to learn

[5TimeWSChamps]

Following along at work, how did Pittsburgh get their runs?

[Maker_84]

the game is not frikin over.. when are you ever going to learn

either way, struggling with a pitcher that's a scrub and not beating the Pirates is not a good omen

[arkimadee]

Following along at work, how did Pittsburgh get their runs?
double by Walker scored 2

[texasdave]

Following along at work, how did Pittsburgh get their runs?

Cueto struck out the first two batters. Mcutcheon double. Paul single. Jones walked. Walker doubled off the wall.

[KYRedLeg]

Following along at work, how did Pittsburgh get their runs?

According to Gameday: with two outs, McCutchens doubled, Paul singled (McCutchens scores), Jones walks, Walker doubles (Paul scores, Jones scores), and Overbay flies out.

[texasdave]

Did Marty just say that even with Cleveland throwing three righthanders this weekend that Gomes was going to be the DH? Please tell me I heard that incorrectly.

[5TimeWSChamps]

Did Marty just say that even with Cleveland throwing three righthanders this weekend that Gomes was going to be the DH? Please tell me I heard that incorrectly.

Nope, Dusty's already said that Gomes will be DH'ing all 3 days

[texasdave]

Nope, Dusty's already said that Gomes will be DH'ing all 3 days

Dusty Baker is a fool.

[arkimadee]

come on Razor.. geeze

[Maker_84]

there goes our chance of scoring runs with 2 bad AB's and Gomes coming up

[Maker_84]

god our hitting sucks, we're lucky to have 1 run

[arkimadee]

good ab Gomes.. sit the down

[texasdave]

There is your weekend DH. Unbelievable.

[redsfan_12]

Sit down Jonny

[BluegrassRedleg]

Game is on MLB Network here in Kentucky. (Although I'd almost rather it not be at this point.) :(

[texasdave]

Now hitting .182. OPSing for the month of May under .500. Let's make him the DH. LOL.

[texasdave]

Dusty Baker - Super Genius!

[Maker_84]

Now hitting .182. OPSing for the month of May under .500. Let's make him the DH. LOL.

i doubt we would have scored if anyone else were batting either, having only 1 run in this game u have to be mad at the rest of the offense as well. Scoring 1 run in 2 games is just piss poor, this offense is still all or nothing. Were either scoring a bunch of runs or getting shut out.

[mivers176]

for all the good feelings after the STL series, i dont see how you can go 1-5 vs PIT at home. unexcusable. guess its not over yet ... but this sure aint looking pretty so far.

[texasdave]

Jordan knows the way to Louisville.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cowboy was talking on the air about "how quickly the offense can go away," but the offense really wouldn't have done much without the Cubs' help in that last series. This club still has some major issues with the lineup and being able to consistently manufacture runs.

I always cringe when someone with an ERA like McDonald sports takes the mound versus the Reds. Seems like it all but guarantees one of these days.

[Maker_84]

for all the good feelings after the STL series, i dont see how you can go 1-5 vs PIT at home. unexcusable. guess its not over yet ... but this sure aint looking pretty so far.

everytime u wanna get excited about this team the Pirates put them right back in their place LOL

[arkimadee]

how did they get there 4th run?

[mivers176]

everytime u wanna get excited about this team the Pirates put them right back in their place LOL

dead right. i mean this is crazy, Stl goes home and beats the Phils (vs Lee & Oswalt) and we have to face the shut down tandem of C. Morton & J. McDonald and so far have 1 run in 14 innings.

[brm7675]

it's games/series like these that make me concerned on how good this team really is. Getting swept by the Pirates is about as awful as you can get. It's gonna suck seeing this team go to Cleveland now with the possibility of getting swept in 2 straight series

Why is getting swept by the Pirates that bad?

[arkimadee]

lets all go hang ourselves to save us the misery of this season

[arkimadee]

heres arredondo.. i predict a 3-1 count

[arkimadee]

lets wake up offense!!!! please!!

[arkimadee]

lets all go hang ourselves to save us the misery of this season
that was a joke by the way :)

[cbowen2112]

we might never win another game...

[cbowen2112]

top of the order is great today....lol

[arkimadee]

top of the order is great today....lol
I tell ya the play of the game is that bone head base running play by Heisey in the first inning.. we would have blown the game open if it wasn't for that..

[arkimadee]

Well Walker is atleast helping my fantasy team out today.. lol

[Maker_84]

as long as you have a pitcher who is disciplined with their pitches, you will most likely shut the Reds down. Pretty easy team to gameplan for

[SidneySlicker]

Channeling positive vibes to the Reds offense. Let's get it going boys.

[SidneySlicker]

I want another 4 dollars off my Reds tickets.

[arkimadee]

I want another 4 dollars off my Reds tickets.
lol!

[arkimadee]

____________ this game.

[Maker_84]

be gone slow Phillips hahahahahaha

[signalhome]

Phillips is not very good running the bases.

[texasdave]

Nice stupid play by Phillips. The Reds need 3 runs not one. Two times erased on the bases by DATDUDEBP.

[redsfan_12]

My god Brandon..you are an idiot

[Maker_84]

Phillips is a stupid f**k. He thinks he's Deion Sanders or something

[cbowen2112]

Phillips is a stupid f**k. He thinks he's Deion Sanders or something

No, he was just trying to get his team fired up. I think he is smarter than you though, for sure.

[arkimadee]

why are they playing so desperate... worst baserunning game of the season

[signalhome]

Phillips is a stupid f**k. He thinks he's Deion Sanders or something

He made a bad play. That doesn't make him stupid. He is just too aggressive.

[SidneySlicker]

Like the hustle Brandon, that being said, it was a stupid choice.

[cbowen2112]

why are they playing so desperate... worst baserunning game of the season

This is a more intelligent comment.

[redsfan_12]

No, he was just trying to get his team fired up. I think he is smarter than you though, for sure.

lets not quote Maker please ;) lol

[cbowen2112]

lets not quote Maker please ;) lol

my bad guys and gals.

[texasdave]

Three hits and a line drive out and no runs.

[arkimadee]

come on Razor.. pick up BP here

[Maker_84]

razor with bad AB so far

[arkimadee]

wow . that was Johnny Gomes like

[Maker_84]

should have been bases loaded and one out

[Maker_84]

LMAO, another bad decision for one of our players, they should be counted as errors lol

[BluegrassRedleg]

This looks like a team that wasn't real focused on playing baseball today. Bad across the board, every phase of the game.

[SidneySlicker]

That may do it.

[Maker_84]

we actually should have a 4 game losing streak going into this weekends games. Say what u want but the Cubs outplayed us in both of those games, they just made some errors they will make once every season and we got lucky it was against us.

[mivers176]

Man, our offense looks this bad vs. Morton & McDonald (they are pitchers or a lawfirm, not sure) - how much is everyone looking forward to next week when we get ATL and then Hamels, Lee & Halladay!? :(

[Maker_84]

Man, our offense looks this bad vs. Morton & McDonald (they are pitchers or a lawfirm, not sure) - how much is everyone looking forward to next week when we get ATL and then Hamels, Lee & Halladay!? :(

we may be looking at or below 500

[brm7675]

Man, our offense looks this bad vs. Morton & McDonald (they are pitchers or a lawfirm, not sure) - how much is everyone looking forward to next week when we get ATL and then Hamels, Lee & Halladay!? :(

I think a couple things are at play here. First off I was very concerned that we would have a let down after the Cards series and we have. You see it all the time in sports when teams have big games or series that the games that follow they have let downs. Also the Reds seem to struggle against no name pitchers and do well against the good ones. Lastly i think the lineup Dusty goes with doesn't provide them with any flow.

[BluegrassRedleg]

1 ER the last 28 innings for the Reds' offense per Cowboy.

:pray: vs. PHI

[Maker_84]

this game should be tied after that HR. Shows you what bad baserunning can do to a team. I want the Pirates Manager

[Redsfan456]

Gonna be one tough road trip. We would be lucky to make it out 5-5

[Maker_84]

Gonna be one tough road trip. We would be lucky to make it out 5-5

i would say 5-5 would be a huge success with the way this team is playing.

[Krawhitham]

i would say 5-5 would be a huge success with the way this team is playing.

way this team is playing??

you mean a team that has won 7 of the last 10

[brm7675]

We swept the Cards and had a 5-2 homestand. For whatever reason the Pirates have our number this season. I think the road trip will be tough and can see us returning 5-5.

[mivers176]

I dont know ... these last two days have to cause concern.

CLE 2/3
PHI 1/4
ATL 1/3

This is my prediction for the upcoming road trip, returning 4-6 at best

[TheBigLebowski]

That was ridiculous. This team should truly be ashamed.

[brm7675]

I dont know ... these last two days have to cause concern.

CLE 2/3
PHI 1/4
ATL 1/3

This is my prediction for the upcoming road trip, returning 4-6 at best

So the past two games cause you more concern then seeing how we did against the Cards?

[brm7675]

That was ridiculous. This team should truly be ashamed.

Why?

[TheBigLebowski]

Why?

Examine their record vs. Arizona and Pittsurgh.

[brm7675]

Examine their record vs. Arizona and Pittsurgh.

So what? Look at their overall record, look at their record vs. the Central division?

[TheBigLebowski]

So what? Look at their overall record, look at their record vs. the Central division?

Losing that many games against poor teams is like leaving food on the table. We're now headed out to Atlanta and Philly, and I'm guessing we'll severely regret leaving that food on the table once we get back.

[brm7675]

Losing that many games against poor teams is like leaving food on the table. We're now headed out to Atlanta and Philly, and I'm guessing we'll severely regret leaving that food on the table once we get back.

What makes you think we won't win in Cleveland, philly or Atlanta? We have beaten up on the Cards and Brewers, both whom are considered good teams. I believe if you will look we have winning records against both of those teams.

Of this 7 game homestand, which do you think was more important, winning the 3 games vs the Cards and having a 5-2 homestand, or had we beaten the Cubs/Pirates and only taken 1 game in the Cards series for a 5-2 Homestand?

[TheBigLebowski]

What makes you think we won't win in Cleveland, philly or Atlanta? We have beaten up on the Cards and Brewers, both whom are considered good teams. I believe if you will look we have winning records against both of those teams.

Of this 7 game homestand, which do you think was more important, winning the 3 games vs the Cards and having a 5-2 homestand, or had we beaten the Cubs/Pirates and only taken 1 game in the Cards series for a 5-2 Homestand?

Last year we demolished bad teams but the Cards got the better of us. The Cards lost lots of games to inferior opponents. Look at how the the teams finished and tell me which place you'd rather be. Besides, the Brewers are not playing good baseball and haven't been all year. You just can't have a record as bad as ours is against teams like PIT and ARI and have high expectations.

I have read enough of your posts to get your schtick - it's quite obvious. Heck, the first post on the sun deck forum is you whining and crying about Gomes and Baker, yet I post that I am disappointed in our performance against bad teams and you magically transform into the world's biggest sunshine pumper. I have neither the time nor energy to tolerate such nonsense. You want to keep this discussion going? Have at it, but it's going to be a unilateral endeavor. I am done.

[TheBigLebowski]

Last year we demolished bad teams but the Cards got the better of us. The Cards lost lots of games to inferior opponents. Look at how the the teams finished and tell me which place you'd rather be. Besides, the Brewers are not playing good baseball and haven't been all year. You just can't have a record as bad as ours is against teams like PIT and ARI and have high expectations.

I have read enough of your posts to get your schtick - it's quite obvious. Heck, the first post on the sun deck forum is you whining and crying about Gomes and Baker, yet I post that I am disappointed in our performance against bad teams and you magically transform into the world's biggest sunshine pumper. I have neither the time nor energy to tolerate such nonsense. You want to keep this discussion going? Have at it, but it's going to be a unilateral endeavor. I am done.

Ah, sorry - didn't mean to de-pants you like that. I had a crappy day at work and I come home and see we lost again to the Pirates...made a bad mood even worse. Sorry - that was uncalled for.

[brm7675]

Ah, sorry - didn't mean to de-pants you like that. I had a crappy day at work and I come home and see we lost again to the Pirates...made a bad mood even worse. Sorry - that was uncalled for.

If we had losing records to the Cubs and Stros also i would be concerned, but it just so happens the Pirates have our number this year. I believe a few seaons back it was the Astros and last year it was the Cards. If the central was a stronger division i might be worried, but there is nothing I see from either the Cards or the Brewers right now that worries me. Also don't discount the Pirates, they are not playoff contenders but they sure are not horrible either.:thumbup:

[TheBigLebowski]

If we had losing records to the Cubs and Stros also i would be concerned, but it just so happens the Pirates have our number this year. I believe a few seaons back it was the Astros and last year it was the Cards. If the central was a stronger division i might be worried, but there is nothing I see from either the Cards or the Brewers right now that worries me. Also don't discount the Pirates, they are not playoff contenders but they sure are not horrible either.:thumbup:

Well, they sure as heck are better than they have been in years past, that's for sure....I really like McCutchen, Walker, Alvarez and Doumit....and that Morton....he does an amazing Halladay impression.