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jwmann2
06-22-2011, 09:18 PM
I was at the first game of the double header. Saw tons of Yankee fans, didn't see or hear any of them being too annoying, but come on! How many of them would you guess actually have ties to New York? I say less than 40%. The other 60% are the same fans that live in Cincinnati and root for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Yankees and Lakers.
I'm sorry, but I consider myself a real man and will be a Bengal/Red till the death.

TheBigLebowski
06-22-2011, 10:36 PM
Sadly, (at least as far as the Bengals are concerned), so will I. Nothing worse than a bandwagon fan/front-runner.

Stray
06-22-2011, 10:44 PM
Yeah bandwagoners are annoying. I stick with our Cincy teams through thick and thin.

webbbj
06-22-2011, 10:44 PM
I'm sorry, but I consider myself a real man and will be a Bengal/Red till the death.

cause this makes anyone a real man, lol.

Reds
06-22-2011, 10:50 PM
if you aren't a reds and bengals fan I don't have anything to say to you. i'll throw in bearcat basketball too. :thumbup:

Stray
06-22-2011, 11:13 PM
if you aren't a reds and bengals fan I don't have anything to say to you. i'll throw in bearcat basketball too. :thumbup:

Hey, Bearcat football too! :beerme:

mlh1981
06-23-2011, 09:53 AM
Some people just like the idea of feeling apart of something really big, and as great as hometown loyalty is (I can't imagine rooting for a non-Ohio team), for some people they really don't care about that.

Personally, the Yankees would just seem like a joyless team of robots to root for. They try to buy up all the talent (certainly in their right. No rule breaking.), and it must be a suffocating feeling knowing that the entire season is a complete and total failure if it doesn't result in a World Series.

I wish the Reds were willing to do whatever it took to the degree that the Yankees do, but its fun to watch some of these guys rise up through the farm system and perform. You feel a greater sense of connection. With the Yankees, outside of a handful of guys, it's a team of free agents.

bounty37h
06-23-2011, 10:38 AM
I agree and the Yanks are among the worst for that for fan bases, but keep in mind a lot of people move around over the course of their lives and loyalties can move with them. I have lived in NC most of my life-all my childhood-so never had a local pro team to follow. My family moved to NC from Pittsburgh before I was born , so was born into the black and gold. My family is from Ohio though originally, so thats where I get my Reds following, as well as I was a catcher and Johnny Bench fan.

jwmann2
06-23-2011, 11:58 AM
cause this makes anyone a real man, lol.

lol, not exactly. But you know what I'm saying. Sports is the only thing where rooting for a bad product is admirable.

OGB
06-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Some people just like the idea of feeling apart of something really big, and as great as hometown loyalty is (I can't imagine rooting for a non-Ohio team), for some people they really don't care about that.

Personally, the Yankees would just seem like a joyless team of robots to root for. They try to buy up all the talent (certainly in their right. No rule breaking.), and it must be a suffocating feeling knowing that the entire season is a complete and total failure if it doesn't result in a World Series.

I wish the Reds were willing to do whatever it took to the degree that the Yankees do, but its fun to watch some of these guys rise up through the farm system and perform. You feel a greater sense of connection. With the Yankees, outside of a handful of guys, it's a team of free agents.


I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I gave a friend of mine a hard time when he started talking about UK players in the NBA. (the Cousins, Bledsoe, and Wall class)
They aren't Kentucky alums and they have only the shallowest connection to that school. They were there for one year and stopped going to classes as soon as they lost in March. (if they went at all) They were Kentucky's (rentals?*); brought in for one specific purpose and leaving immediately afterward.
I have no interest in rooting for something like that, nor do I have an interest in rooting for a major league team full of rent-a-players that change every 2-5 years.

*edited with apologies

RedsFan_26
06-23-2011, 09:16 PM
Not trying to change the thread subject, but speaking of hometown teams, did anyone else see in the new ESPN magazine that the Bengals were rated the worst proffesional team based on Title Track, Ownership, Coaching, Players, Fan relations, Affordability, Stadium Experience, and Bang for the buck. They were 122 out of 122 teams. The Reds were 15 out of 122. Only baseball teams that were higher than the Reds were the Rangers and the Rockies.

mlh1981
06-23-2011, 10:07 PM
Not trying to change the thread subject, but speaking of hometown teams, did anyone else see in the new ESPN magazine that the Bengals were rated the worst proffesional team based on Title Track, Ownership, Coaching, Players, Fan relations, Affordability, Stadium Experience, and Bang for the buck. They were 122 out of 122 teams. The Reds were 15 out of 122. Only baseball teams that were higher than the Reds were the Rangers and the Rockies.

Yeah, that is really sad, but no matter how bad and dysfunctional the Bengals are, no matter the crap they put me through, I will forever and always revolve my football Sundays around them. I'm a sick, sick man.

bounty37h
06-24-2011, 09:19 AM
Yeah, that is really sad, but no matter how bad and dysfunctional the Bengals are, no matter the crap they put me through, I will forever and always revolve my football Sundays around them. I'm a sick, sick man.

Nope, your a true fan and I admire that. Anyone can root for a winner, its easy. It takes a real fan to stick by their team when they arent winning-esp when years or even decades drag on without winning. I am a UNC fan and often hear I am bandwagon since they win a lot. I am from CH, my dad worked at UNC, etc etc, yeah, of course i am a fan, not only of the championship winning basketball team, but was there every Saturday during 2-10 seasons of bad football. And of course last year when the Reds won the division people thought I was jumping on then (those that didn't know me and know I have been a fan since 82).

freestyle55
06-24-2011, 02:16 PM
Nope, your a true fan and I admire that. Anyone can root for a winner, its easy. It takes a real fan to stick by their team when they arent winning-esp when years or even decades drag on without winning. I am a UNC fan and often hear I am bandwagon since they win a lot. I am from CH, my dad worked at UNC, etc etc, yeah, of course i am a fan, not only of the championship winning basketball team, but was there every Saturday during 2-10 seasons of bad football. And of course last year when the Reds won the division people thought I was jumping on then (those that didn't know me and know I have been a fan since 82).

Mike Brown loves "real fans" then...all those "real fans" who keep paying for season tickets, COA's, parking, etc. just help him line his pocketbook rather than produce actual, real winning football.

bounty37h
06-24-2011, 02:56 PM
Mike Brown loves "real fans" then...all those "real fans" who keep paying for season tickets, COA's, parking, etc. just help him line his pocketbook rather than produce actual, real winning football.

Not really, you can be a real fan without spending a dime. You can support the team without sending a dime.

BurgervilleBuck
06-25-2011, 08:55 PM
lol, not exactly. But you know what I'm saying. Sports is the only thing where rooting for a bad product is admirable.

Not if that bad product is the Bengals. There's nothing admirable about Bengals or their fans. The sooner they leave town, the better.

webbbj
06-25-2011, 09:23 PM
Not if that bad product is the Bengals. There's nothing admirable about Bengals or their fans. The sooner they leave town, the better.

was it admirable watching the reds from 1996-2009?

BurgervilleBuck
06-26-2011, 11:28 AM
was it admirable watching the reds from 1996-2009?
At least, during that time, the Reds tried to improve. They weren't always successful but the effort was there.

There's nothing admirable about supporting a franchise where the owner steadfastly refuses to evolve with the game and runs it only to pocket money. Brown runs the organization on the cheap. You can see it from his refusal to hire a GM (while paying himself a GM salary) all the way to the dull concrete interior that is Paul Brown Stadium.

Like I said, the sooner the Bengals move to LA, the better.

will5979
06-26-2011, 01:44 PM
was it admirable watching the reds from 1996-2009?

I don't know about you, but 1996 was fun in the sense that several members of the 1990 team were in the lineup everyday, Eric Davis made a great comeback, and Barry Larkin was the first ever 30-30 SS in MLB history.

1997-1998-2 years I would love to forget.

1999-one of the best years of my life as a Reds fan, but I've only been a fan since 1985.

2000-the offseason was great with the trade of KGJ, and the season itself was ok...

2001-2005-misery, PURE AND UTTER MISERY!

2006-ok until August...

2007-2009 see 2001-2005.

jwmann2
06-26-2011, 07:09 PM
Met a Yankees fan yesterday who commented on the Mets hat I had on. "You know what Mets stands for? My Entire Team Sucks."

My response: "Yankees fan, huh? I'm sorry to hear that."

I agree, they are a team full of free agents. However, the luxury tax they do pay goes to the smaller teams to spend, like the Marlins and Pirates.

Mutaman
06-26-2011, 07:22 PM
The Yankees' telegast of the Reds games made a big deal out of the number of people at the games wearing Yankees paraphernalia. It seemed far greater than at other Yankee road games. I don't get it.

I can understand certain New Yorkers rooting for the Yankees and I can understand certain New Yorkers being front runners, but why would anyone from the midwest root for the Yankees? Much less pay for an ARod jersy.

mlh1981
06-26-2011, 09:49 PM
The Yankees' telegast of the Reds games made a big deal out of the number of people at the games wearing Yankees paraphernalia. It seemed far greater than at other Yankee road games. I don't get it.

I can understand certain New Yorkers rooting for the Yankees and I can understand certain New Yorkers being front runners, but why would anyone from the midwest root for the Yankees? Much less pay for an ARod jersy.

lots of kids root for them. They also double up as Lakers/Steelers fans. I work in the school system, and local loyalty doesn't really exist amongst school age children. Trust me.

Many people around here also perhaps have a "system" where the Reds are their favorite NL team, and the Yankees are their favorite AL team. There were numerous people repping both teams in the park.

Also, there were probably a fair number of fans that came from the NY region. I don't doubt that at all. The team has only been to GABP one other time, so many fans wanted to knock the park off the proverbial "bucket list."

The time of the year also helps, as many families from the NY probably planned vacation time around this series.

and finally, there are those who aren't kids, but just root for winners.

webbbj
06-26-2011, 10:35 PM
i find it funny that people hate on the yankees for doing everything possible to win games when we as reds fans argue about the reds to make moves everyday.

now the reds dont have as many resources but they arent even using the resources the do have to help the club like call up cozart and sappelt, DFA lewis and renteria, bench gomes, fire the manager, make a trade if necessary, add some affordable payroll if necessary. All moves the reds are capable of making.

surethe yankees have more resources but they are well w/in their right to use those resources.