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Maker_84
06-28-2011, 11:02 PM
somebody please explain? the dude is awful and can't get people out

R_Webb18
06-28-2011, 11:04 PM
theres got be a replacement

mroby85
06-28-2011, 11:06 PM
Is this a joke? it has to be..

webbbj
06-28-2011, 11:20 PM
his era is infinity tonite tho

goreds18
06-28-2011, 11:23 PM
He located a pitch poorly and a great hitter made him pay. This thread is a head-scratcher...

Eric the Red
06-28-2011, 11:28 PM
Let the emotion run its course.

chuck6660
06-28-2011, 11:28 PM
Another typical performance from the under-achieving Reds...I predict at best an 81-81 season from this team. How long will the Reds stick with Dusty? Very frustrating being a Reds fan!

R_Webb18
06-28-2011, 11:29 PM
Another typical performance from the under-achieving Reds...I predict at best an 81-81 season from this team. How long will the Reds stick with Dusty? Very frustrating being a Reds fan!

yup dusty lost this 1 guys

ruREaDy2
06-28-2011, 11:32 PM
This depiction pretty much sums up the original post....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-meAboyN33Q8/TcssNbtGkzI/AAAAAAAAFaY/ifl3GDqAAUA/s1600/ppreflex.gif

BAKER12
06-28-2011, 11:33 PM
Reds players are 41-0
Dusty Baker is 0-40

HalKing
06-29-2011, 12:04 AM
This depiction pretty much sums up the original post....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-meAboyN33Q8/TcssNbtGkzI/AAAAAAAAFaY/ifl3GDqAAUA/s1600/ppreflex.gif



Yes... this thread is a major case of over-reaction

LexRedsFan
06-29-2011, 12:07 AM
Opponents are hitting sub-.200 against him.

Vottomatic
06-29-2011, 12:18 AM
Ondrusek has been good so far. I'm not going to fault him for one bad pitch.

cbowen2112
06-29-2011, 12:23 AM
Don't feed the trolls folks

KYRedLeg
06-29-2011, 12:51 AM
Is this a joke? it has to be..

It's a Maker_84 thread, so.....yes.

mroby85
06-29-2011, 01:30 AM
It's a Maker_84 thread, so.....yes.

lol, i'm not really familiar with that poster. It just shocked me to see it posted about a guy with a sub 2 ERA. Ondrusek has been very solid in my opinion.

nux fan
06-29-2011, 03:20 AM
masset is more reliable count the games logan has blown

HalKing
06-29-2011, 05:10 AM
masset is more reliable count the games logan has blown

hmmmm.... Both pitchers mentioned have 3 losses this season. Masset is 1 out of 4 in save situations while Ondrusek is 0 out of 2. Your argument doesn't really work. Again this entire thread is just an over-reaction to Ondrusek having thrown a bad pitch to a extremely good hitter. It sucks but it happens. Lets not kick him to the curb over it.

chuck6660
06-29-2011, 09:11 AM
Reds fans need to wake up and smell the Folgers. The Reds are at best a 500 ball club. During the off season the Brewres added Greinke, Marcum and Nyjer Morgan, and the Cards added Lance Berkman, BLUF they addressed their short-comings. The Reds sat pat and hoped Janish would step up at SS and Gomes would do the job in LF, both have been found wanting, they did add Renteria and Fred Lewis :thumbdown:. How has that worked out? Not to mention the lack in a solid rotation, Bailey has yet to pitch more than 10 starts during his career without an injury and Volquez can't get out of the 2nd inning. Mark my words the REDS will be lucky to finish in 3rd place in the NL Central. I don't blame Dusty for the Reds short comings but he will take the heat:(

R_Webb18
06-29-2011, 11:04 AM
Reds fans need to wake up and smell the Folgers. The Reds are at best a 500 ball club. During the off season the Brewres added Greinke, Marcum and Nyjer Morgan, and the Cards added Lance Berkman, BLUF they addressed their short-comings. The Reds sat pat and hoped Janish would step up at SS and Gomes would do the job in LF, both have been found wanting, they did add Renteria and Fred Lewis :thumbdown:. How has that worked out? Not to mention the lack in a solid rotation, Bailey has yet to pitch more than 10 starts during his career without an injury and Volquez can't get out of the 2nd inning. Mark my words the REDS will be lucky to finish in 3rd place in the NL Central. I don't blame Dusty for the Reds short comings but he will take the heat:(

the reds are better than a 500 team since there record shows it.

bounty37h
06-29-2011, 11:26 AM
The guy has a 1.88 ERA, ummmmmm, this may be the most retarded thread ever

Sadly, no, just add it to the pile of ridiculous posts

bshall2105
06-29-2011, 11:28 AM
nominated for worst Maker84 thread and that's saying something

davereds24
06-29-2011, 11:36 AM
lol so many think this is serious, love the brm joke

brm7675
06-29-2011, 12:35 PM
somebody please explain? the dude is awful and can't get people out

well outside of that being false and not true...

brm7675
06-29-2011, 12:38 PM
Reds fans need to wake up and smell the Folgers. The Reds are at best a 500 ball club. During the off season the Brewres added Greinke, Marcum and Nyjer Morgan, and the Cards added Lance Berkman, BLUF they addressed their short-comings. The Reds sat pat and hoped Janish would step up at SS and Gomes would do the job in LF, both have been found wanting, they did add Renteria and Fred Lewis :thumbdown:. How has that worked out? Not to mention the lack in a solid rotation, Bailey has yet to pitch more than 10 starts during his career without an injury and Volquez can't get out of the 2nd inning. Mark my words the REDS will be lucky to finish in 3rd place in the NL Central. I don't blame Dusty for the Reds short comings but he will take the heat:(

I am not saying we are NOT a .500 club because I do believe that come the end of the season, that is where we will be, but lets also look at the Cards and Brewers. The Cards have been racked with injuries but continue to win, so you have to ask WHY? As for the Brewers they added some good pitchers but yet can't pull away from the division, thus WHY? Then how about them Pirates...scrappy and such and just hanging around...WHY?

demas863
06-29-2011, 12:44 PM
Dusty's cursed.

bigredmechanism
06-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Reds players are 41-0
Dusty Baker is 0-40

+1 awesome.

DocRed
06-29-2011, 01:08 PM
Masset and Ondrusek have been equally poor with inherited runners and in pressure situations. In the fact the whole bullpen has been poor except for Bray and Cordero. LeCure too, but he hasn't had many games.

brm7675
06-29-2011, 01:28 PM
Masset and Ondrusek have been equally poor with inherited runners and in pressure situations. In the fact the whole bullpen has been poor except for Bray and Cordero. LeCure too, but he hasn't had many games.

What do you consider poor?

DocRed
06-29-2011, 02:03 PM
What do you consider poor?

40% rate allowing inherited runners to score.

brm7675
06-29-2011, 02:25 PM
40% rate allowing inherited runners to score.

Okay so how does that compare with other teams in the league? Are we near the bottom, in the middle up near the top?

DocRed
06-29-2011, 02:46 PM
Okay so how does that compare with other teams in the league? Are we near the bottom, in the middle up near the top?

That's just Ondrusek and Masset this year. Bray for instance is under 20%, good relievers are around 20%. Rhodes last year was 14% for reference. I would "guess" average for relievers is around 25-30%.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/234 is a good article from 2007 looking at this statistic for relievers, minimum 20 inherited runners by Aug. 29th, 2007. The top 20 relievers in MLB for 2007 in this stat were under 20% and the bottom 20 in MLB were equal to or over 40%. So if you extrapolate this to 2011, you would assume Masset and Ondrusek are among the 20-30 worst relievers for inherited runners scoring %.