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RedsManRick
07-03-2011, 02:50 PM
I thought this would be fun. I selected players solely on the basis of their aggregate fWAR. When players were tied, I took the guy listed first on the leaderboard on the assumption that they led by decimals. I did take a player from every team, using the team's player who was closest to making it.




C McCann ATL 3.1 SP Halladay PHI 4.8
1B Fielder MIL 3.6 SP Hamels PHI 3.8
2B Weeks MIL 3.3 SP Lee PHI 3.6
SS Reyes NYM 5.3 SP Kershaw LAD 3.6
3B Roberts* ARI 2.1 SP Hudson* ARI 3.4
OF McCutchen* PIT 4.6 SP Lincecum SFG 3.0
OF Kemp MIL 4.5 SP Bumgardner* SFG 2.9
OF Victorino* PHI 4.2 SP Sanchez* FLA 2.8

C Montero* ARI 2.3 RP Kimbrel* ATL 1.9
C Iannetta* COL 2.3 RP Venters ATL 1.4
1B Votto CIN 3.6 RP Axford* MIL 1.3
2B Espinosa* WAS 3.1 RP Marhsall* CHI 1.2
2B Phillips CIN 2.8
SS Tulowitzki COL 3.5 Next 5 (Fan "Vote")
SS Drew* RI 2.1 OF Young ARI 2.7
3B Headley* SDP 2.0 OF Beltran NYM 2.7
OF Braun MIL 4.0 OF Berkman STL 2.6
OF Bourn* HOU 3.4 1B Sanchez FLA 2.5
OF Upton ARI 3.3 1B Helton COL 2.5
OF Holliday STL 3.2

The guys who were snubbed by requiring all teams be represented were Pablo Sandoval (by decimals) and Jordan Zimmerman (by 0.3). I starred guys who were not selected. Interesting to see 3 guys leading their positions who didn't even make it as a reserve -- though I'd be Victorino wins the fan vote. I can't believe McCutchen wasn't even on the fan voting list. The guy is a good defensive CF hitting .289/.390/.493 with 12 HR and 15 SB. If he were a Yankee he'd be getting MVP talk.

Personally, I'd like to see the game full of "stars", guys who have established themselves as the best in the game, but this was interesting none-the-less. I think the NL's reserve squad might be better than it's starters...

HeatherC1212
07-03-2011, 02:55 PM
Fascinating stuff RMR and I agree that the NL reserve team is quite strong. Sandoval was also on the DL for a while which may have hurt his AS chances too (didn't he just come back within the last few weeks?). Thanks for sharing that info. Nice work! :)

nate
07-03-2011, 02:56 PM
Nice work, Rick. High Five!

Isn't Kershaw LAD though? I saw him pitch last night (vs. Jered Weaver no less.) That would be one helluva Phillies rotation though...not that it isn't already.

HeatherC1212
07-03-2011, 02:57 PM
Nice work, Rick. High Five!

Isn't Kershaw LAD though? I saw him pitch last night (vs. Jered Weaver no less.) That would be one helluva Phillies rotation though...not that it isn't already.

Kershaw is definitely a Dodger (the Reds beat him in LA during our west coast trip) although I can see how he got PHI happy with those three guys all listed back to back to back, LOL :laugh:

RedsManRick
07-03-2011, 03:33 PM
Oops. Force of habit apparently...

klw
07-03-2011, 03:40 PM
Wow I only just realized that McCutchen did not make the reserves or even the fan vote! That certainly is high on the snub list.

Hollcat
07-05-2011, 03:39 PM
I'm not sure what stats WAR is comprised of but offensively I can't see how McCutchen can beat out Braun. I guess defensive numbers must be included.
Here is the 2 deep NL OPS All-Star team

1b Fielder .998
2b Weeks .819
ss Reyes .927
3b Ramirez .822
OF Kemp 1.021
OF Berkman 1.014
OF Braun .961
C McCann . 909

reserves
1b Votto .938
2b Espinosa . 794
ss Tulo .834
3b Headley . 799
OF Victorino . 900
OF McCutchen . 890
OF Upton .881
C Montero .817

RedsManRick
07-05-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm not sure what stats WAR is comprised of but offensively I can't see how McCutchen can beat out Braun.

If the goal is to select the players who have produced the most so far this year, defense matters too. The way the All-Star selections are made, all OFs are grouped together. If we broke out the positions separately, LF would have been Braun going away, with McCutchen in CF and Upton in RF.

I realize though that most voters, fans and players alike, don't consider defense.

Hollcat
07-05-2011, 08:33 PM
Kemp would be in centerfield over McCutchen as the starter
and it's not really even close

RedsManRick
07-06-2011, 01:50 AM
Kemp would be in centerfield over McCutchen as the starter and it's not really even close

You make a very compelling argument.

Caveat Emperor
07-06-2011, 01:53 AM
Wow I only just realized that McCutchen did not make the reserves or even the fan vote! That certainly is high on the snub list.

As far as I'm concerned, anything that causes even a momentary bit of misery to Andrew McCutchen gets high marks from me.:devil:

nate
07-06-2011, 11:10 AM
Kemp would be in centerfield over McCutchen as the starter
and it's not really even close

Kemp's glove in CF really hurts him; he'd be a better corner guy. He's one of the worst defending CF regulars over the past two seasons.