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wvreds
07-07-2011, 04:37 PM
Per fay twitter.......Reds recall Zack Cozart and Carlos Fisher and option IF Paul Janish and SP Edinson
Volquez

BLark = HOF
07-07-2011, 05:02 PM
This is the best Reds news I've heard in a while.

Kingspoint
07-07-2011, 05:03 PM
Janish needed it for his confidence and it's Cozart's time.

Kingspoint
07-07-2011, 05:06 PM
That's two moves in 48 hours since the closed door meeting. I expect one more over the next 100 hours. But, this one from outside the organization.

texasdave
07-07-2011, 05:10 PM
Let's see. The Cards slap them around the first two games of the series. They have a closed-door meeting. Changes start taking place. Sounds sorta kinda kneejerkish to me.

Question: Does anyone think these moves take place if the Reds win the first two games of the series? LOL KNEEJERK!!!

mroby85
07-07-2011, 05:14 PM
Let's see. The Cards slap them around the first two games of the series. They have a closed-door meeting. Changes start taking place. Sounds sorta kinda kneejerkish to me.

Question: Does anyone think these moves take place if the Reds win the first two games of the series? LOL KNEEJERK!!!

It isn't kneejerk when a guy has been terrible for the 1st half of the season, if anything it's closing the gate after the horse gets out.

Vottomatic
07-07-2011, 05:14 PM
I love kneejerk reactions. Especially when the team is .500 and half the season is over. And especially when the team is sucking eggs on the field.

They won last night, but it was a nailbiter that shouldn't have been.

Kingspoint
07-07-2011, 05:19 PM
The two losses to the Cards were the straws that broke the camel's back, not knee-jerk reactions. Walt doesn't make knee-jerk reactions. Fans do.

wlf WV
07-07-2011, 05:27 PM
I expect it comes down to a man's career,in Janish's or Renteria's case.Hard decisions,when you tell a man more or less life changing news.I respect whoever involved for sticking this long.On the other hand,Cozart is overdue for his upgrade,all things considered.So long Paul,you made some great plays.Hello Zack,make the best of it.

BAKER12
07-07-2011, 05:28 PM
That's two moves in 48 hours since the closed door meeting. I expect one more over the next 100 hours. But, this one from outside the organization.

Someone from the Reds team leaving and someone coming?
Idea?

Vottomatic
07-07-2011, 05:36 PM
The two losses to the Cards were the straws that broke the camel's back, not knee-jerk reactions. Walt doesn't make knee-jerk reactions. Fans do.

I doubt that.

The trading deadline is at the end of the month. The only have so long to evaluate if Cozart can cut it up here.

Janish/Renteria proved, especially this series, that they are a weak link on the team.

Volquez proved he mentally doesn't have it in him to battle hard enough. Or just needs to work on his command the rest of the season.

Fisher is that fresh arm since the bullpen was spent last night.

I'm sure Bob and Walt despise losing to the Cardinals, and take it personally.

Hey Meat
07-07-2011, 05:38 PM
Thank God, I know this is a sore spot, but I still think we should have tried to find ways to keep O-Cab .

Kingspoint
07-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Someone from the Reds team leaving and someone coming?
Idea?

Way too many options available for Walt to try to pinpoint it down to two or three, yet alone one.

texasdave
07-07-2011, 07:19 PM
Yes, that is the professional way to make careful, considered decisions. Clear out the clubhouse AFTER a loss and gather all the coaches in a broom closet. LOL. Kneejerk city.

brm7675
07-07-2011, 07:19 PM
So somehow Edgar keeps his job...yea smart move there...

brm7675
07-07-2011, 07:20 PM
I doubt that.

I'm sure Bob and Walt despise losing to the Cardinals, and take it personally.

If that was so, then Walt needs to fire dusty..

DocRed
07-07-2011, 07:21 PM
I would have dfa'd Renteria....but at least it gets Cozart up here. I have a feeling he will not relinquish the starting role once he gets his teeth in it.

Stray
07-07-2011, 07:29 PM
The way I see it we'd only bring up Cozart to be the starter. Assuming that is true, it wouldn't do Janish a ton of good to sit on the bench, this way he can work on what he needs to work on in AAA. If Cozart doesn't work out our fallback plan isn't Renteria, I think it would still be to bring Janish back up.

If everything works out I'd like Cozart to handle it himself and keep the job by playing well.

LeDoux
07-08-2011, 04:06 AM
Hats off to Janish. He plays hard. I am sure he will get the chance to contribute again in the future.

jwmann2
07-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Janish will be back. Cozart could end up being worse than Janish. And give it time before we are ragging on the other starting pitcher's and Edinson is back up.

HalKing
07-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Worst case scenario for Janish is that he comes back as a utility guy. He's a major leaguer, probably just not a starter.

malcontent
07-08-2011, 12:43 PM
Cozart could end up being worse than Janish.
Perhaps. In some distant galaxy in a parallel universe.