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redsmetz
07-08-2011, 06:04 AM
Another fine column from Doug Glanville in today's Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/opinion/08glanville.html

Redlegs
07-08-2011, 09:32 PM
It means a player would have to get 200 hits per season for 6 more seasons to fall 56 short of Pete Rose.

Dan
07-08-2011, 09:46 PM
My all time favorite state is 3016 hits. That's how many hits Hank Aaron had when you subtract all his home runs.

AmarilloRed
07-08-2011, 10:51 PM
It means you've been a good hitter for 15-20 years.

Slyder
07-09-2011, 12:44 AM
Do you think Ichiro catches Rose if his entire career was in the MLB rather than Japan?

Phhhl
07-09-2011, 03:32 AM
Do you think Ichiro catches Rose if his entire career was in the MLB rather than Japan?

I don't know, but I think he is the only player even in the conversation.

Phhhl
07-09-2011, 03:39 AM
Man, if Doug Glanville just could have hit as well as he writes he could have been somebody!

LvJ
07-09-2011, 02:02 PM
That was a pretty awesome way to reach 3k.

camisadelgolf
07-09-2011, 02:40 PM
Man, if Doug Glanville just could have hit as well as he writes he could have been somebody!
I know what you mean, but I think he's easily one of the most underrated defensive center fielders of the past 15 years. He was such a joy to watch in the field.

redsmetz
07-09-2011, 03:11 PM
That was a pretty awesome way to reach 3k.

And it's amazing to think that in the long storied history of the Yankees franchise, Jeter is the first Yank to reach 3000 hits. That's remarkable.

redsmetz
07-09-2011, 03:16 PM
Man, if Doug Glanville just could have hit as well as he writes he could have been somebody!

:laugh:

I think in many ways, Glanvillle is a bit emblematic of what a major league career looks like for the vast majority of players. A quick burst, a good season or two, the diminishing, and the onto the remainder of one's life. For the majority of men who have played at their level, it's a blink of the eye. I think WOY & others have spoken of this over the years.

It's also why a feat such as Jeter's stands out. It's also why I thought it was crass, childish really, of folks holding signs noting how many more hits Pete Rose had when the Yankees were in town. So what? It certainly doesn't lessen the feat Jeter was on the cusp of. And it's all part of the long story of the game. And, as Glanville noted, it was one hit at a time, one game adding and adding (although when I looked yesterday, Jeter got his first hit, followed by another in the same game - both off Tim Belcher). It's a long drawn out process, astounding for any player who reaches this pinnacle. Congrats to Jeter, well told story by Glanville.

Redsfan320
07-09-2011, 03:33 PM
Congrats to Jeter! As much as I hate the Yankees, I've (pretty much) seen nothing but class from Derek Jeter. Congrats on #3000!

320

RBA
07-09-2011, 05:42 PM
Can Jeter keep up his pace until he's 44 years old?

KronoRed
07-09-2011, 05:44 PM
Can Jeter keep up his pace until he's 44 years old?

Maybe with greenies and betting on his own team.

Reds Freak
07-09-2011, 05:50 PM
One man ought not to have both 3,000 hits AND Minka Kelly. That's just not fair...

redsmetz
07-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Now the 28th player to hit for 3000 hits, he is the 10th to do it for just one big league club (presuming he finishes with the Yankees, which seems fairly certain).

Can you name the other nine?

RBA
07-09-2011, 06:30 PM
Now the 28th player to hit for 3000 hits, he is the 10th to do it for just one big league club (presuming he finishes with the Yankees, which seems fairly certain).

Can you name the other nine?

He's has hit 3000 with one club. If he doesn't finish with the Yankees, do they remove the 3000 hits he had with the Yankees? :confused:

redsmetz
07-09-2011, 06:33 PM
He's has hit 3000 with one club. If he doesn't finish with the Yankees, do they remove the 3000 hits he had with the Yankees? :confused:

Sorry, I should clarify - players who got their 3000 hits (or more) while playing for only one club. There are some who had 3000 hits for just one club, but did player for other teams too (Cobb & Wagner to name two off the top of my head.

Big Klu
07-09-2011, 06:42 PM
Now the 28th player to hit for 3000 hits, he is the 10th to do it for just one big league club (presuming he finishes with the Yankees, which seems fairly certain).

Can you name the other nine?

No!

(We dont, we don't, we don't mess around! HEY!) :p :D

Big Klu
07-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Sorry, I should clarify - players who got their 3000 hits (or more) while playing for only one club. There are some who had 3000 hits for just one club, but did player for other teams too (Cobb & Wagner to name two off the top of my head.

Pete Rose is another example. He had over 3000 hits as a Red.

I can come up with four or five off the top of my head.

Aaron
Musial
Clemente
Gwynn
Biggio

Did Yastrzemski have 3000 hits?

mth123
07-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Pete Rose is another example. He had over 3000 hits as a Red.

I can come up with four or five off the top of my head.

Aaron
Musial
Clemente
Gwynn
Biggio

Did Yastrzemski have 3000 hits?

Aaron is a no. He finsihed with the Brewers. Kaline, Yaz, Brett and Yount come to mind.

mth123
07-09-2011, 07:02 PM
Paul Waner?

Big Klu
07-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Aaron is a no. He finsihed with the Brewers.

Oops. I forgot about that.

RBA
07-09-2011, 08:30 PM
Robin Yount?

oops, already named. too late.

redsmetz
07-09-2011, 11:06 PM
Yaz is a yes, Aaron is a no (brief stint with the Brewers).

Big Klu
07-10-2011, 12:42 AM
Cal Ripken, Jr.

redsmetz
07-10-2011, 06:43 AM
Here's the list:

Musial, Yaz, Ripken, Brett, Yount, Gwynn, Biggio, Kaline & Clemente.

Slyder
07-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Now the 28th player to hit for 3000 hits, he is the 10th to do it for just one big league club (presuming he finishes with the Yankees, which seems fairly certain).

Can you name the other nine?

Random Name Guess without reading the thread.
Tony Gwynn
Paul Molitor
Willie Mays
Robin Yount
Roberto Clemente
Stan Musial
Craig Biggio
George Brett
Cal Ripken, JR

redsmetz
07-10-2011, 07:48 PM
Random Name Guess without reading the thread.
Tony Gwynn
Paul Molitor
Willie Mays
Robin Yount
Roberto Clemente
Stan Musial
Craig Biggio
George Brett
Cal Ripken, JR

Two off - Mays played for the Mets too and Molitor played for about two other clubs (Jays & Twins?). The answer is a few messages back. And I think it's likely Jeter finishes in this group.

Slyder
07-10-2011, 07:51 PM
Two off - Mays played for the Mets too and Molitor played for about two other clubs (Jays & Twins?). The answer is a few messages back. And I think it's likely Jeter finishes in this group.

I forgot about the down days with the Mets for Mays. I would have never gotten Kaline or Yaz without looking it up. I know one guy who easily makes this list if he didn't lose 4 years to the war. Ted Williams.