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The DARK
07-12-2011, 12:28 AM
It's that time already, ladies and gentlemen.

For my list, I excluded Aroldis Chapman, who I believe has passed the 45 day requirement for this to be his rookie season.

1. Devin Mesoraco- C (AAA)- Possibly the top true catching prospect in all of baseball. His CS% is down from last year, but he's put up an .889 OPS in the pitching-friendly IL, even with his recent cooldown.

2. Yasmani Grandal- C (AA)- 2010 first-rounder showed remarkable plate patience by leading A+ in walks and hitting 10 HR, earning himself a quick promotion to Carolina.

3. Zack Cozart- SS (AAA)- There's a significant dropoff after Mes and Grandal; the rest of the prospects either lack their upside, remain raw and unrefined, or are losing value in AAA. Cozart, however, has distanced himself from the AAA pack and earned a major league promotion with a blistering first half.

4. Yonder Alonso- 1B/LF (AAA)- Remains a polished and attractive hitter, but the LF experiment has had mixed results and his numbers are a tick below average this year.

5. Robert Stephenson- SP (Draft)- 2011 first-round prep pitcher has an unusually high ceiling and stuff/polish combo; instantly becomes the highest-upside arm in the system.

6. Daniel Corcino- SP (A)- Heralded as the next Johnny Cueto, performance to date has earned his place as the best minor league arm outside of Stephenson.

7. Yorman Rodriguez- OF (A)- Continues to flash impressive tools at age 18 and is beginning to put it together after a rough start to the year.

8. Billy Hamilton- SS (A)- While he has set records with his astounding stealing ability (an incredible 64 to date), his bat has been exposed and his 26 errors are cause for mild alarm.

9. Juan Duran- OF (A)- Has shown himself Rodriguez and Hamilton's equal as a prospect with a solid .465 SLG in A-ball; appears to be putting his tools together faster than either of the two. Reports on his power have been glowing.

10. Ronald Torreyes- 2B (A)- The numbers don't lie; he has continued to tear up the lower minors, hitting .368 in A-ball and providing plus defense with some power and stealing ability. His height suggests that he will need to prove himself at higher levels to be a top-tier prospect, but has done as well as can be expected.

11. Todd Frazier- 3B/LF (AAA)- Has shown renewed power with 15 HR and has improved his previously below-average defense according to scouting reports, rejuvenating his prospect status. However, his age is an impediment to his prospect status.

12. Brad Boxberger- RP (AA)- Sports a 1.31 ERA, 0.845 WHIP, and 14.9 K/9. Last year's struggles seem to be a thing of the past for the Reds system's top relief prospect.

13. Dave Sappelt- OF (AAA)- Has mostly hit well during his playing time; however, slight numbers dropoff from last year (only a .301 AVG, though with 7 HR) and failure to improve SB numbers mean he doesn't go above here.

14. Juan Francisco- 3B/LF (AAA)- Has nothing left to prove in the minors, hitting as well as all other prospects at that level; however, time spent in the majors indicates a possible stagnation into a AAAA power hitter.

15. Gabriel Rosa- OF/SS (Draft)- Power/speed combo draws comparisons to Duran, though being a possible SS increases his upside.

16. Josh Smith- SP (A)- Old for his level and lacking in pedigree, but has put up even more impressive stats than Corcino, such as a 0.97 WHIP and 2.21 ERA.

17. Tucker Barnhart- C (A)- Has displayed incredible defensive prowess to go with a good bat so far this season, but remains relatively low-upside.

18. Ismael Gullion- SP (Rookie)- Struggled with a 7.00+ ERA in his first 2 starts in Billings; has plenty of time to adjust.

19. Neftali Soto- 1B (AA)- Rebounded from a slow start to find his swing and hit 15 HR to date; probable 40-man addition.

20. Kyle Lotzkar- SP (A)- Overall disappointing season so far, with injury problems and multiple inconsistent starts. His arm, however, still has that TOR potential if kept healthy.

Honorable Mentions:

Henry Rodriguez- 2B (AA)- Hot start in Bakersfield led to a quick promotion to AA.

Ryan Wright- 2B (Draft)- Polished college second baseman could make a quick impact.

Eric Campbell- 3B (AA)- Trying to redefine oneself as a prospect at age 25 (almost 26) is difficult, but his 1.121 OPS drumming of the California league deserves mention.

Fallers:

Donnie Joseph- RP (AA)- Horrific 8.00+ ERA has nearly eliminated him as a major prospect, despite his remarkable stuff.

Chris Valaika- 2B (AAA)- Losing value rapidly with a very poor season in Louisville.

Ryan LaMarre- OF (A+) Remains a prospect, but failure to make use of his extensive tools has caused him to blend in as organizational filler.



Edits have been made. I was sleepy when I wrote this.

mth123
07-12-2011, 02:06 AM
Ok I'll take my shot, though I admit that I haven't paid as much attention as in season's past and I'm not really going to include recent draftees or many rookie ball types. Personal Pre-season rank in ().

1. Mesoraco (2)
2. Cozart (3)
3. Sappelt (8)
4. Grandal (9)
5. Torreyes (22)
6. Corcino (18)
7. Alonso (4)
8. Boxberger (13)
9. Duran (12)
10. Sulbaran (38)
11. Frazier (10)
12. Hamilton (7)
13. Y-Rod (6)
14. Francisco (11)
15. Soto (20)
16. Barnhardt (28)
17. Renken (NR)
18. Josh Smith (NR)
19. Waldrop (37) (on faith)
20. Ravin (44) (on stuff)

Remainder of my pre-season top 20 no longer on list:

Chapman (1) Graduated to MLB, Joseph (5) awful year, Negron (14) awful year, Lamarre (15) not enough bat so far IMO, Guillon (16) need more info, Correa (17) questions about status, Arias (19) poor start.

klw
07-12-2011, 09:50 AM
1. Mesoraco
2. Corcino
3. Grandal
4. Alonso
5. Boxberger
6. Soto
7. Smith
8. Duran
9. Hamilton
10. Sappelt/Torreyes

Notes: Cozart and other gulys on mlb roster are not eligble to me. Unsigned players are not eligible for me. I know I am forgetting someone but I can not put my finger on who it is.

_Sir_Charles_
07-12-2011, 10:25 AM
1. Mesoraco
2. Corcino
3. Grandal
4. Alonso
5. Boxberger
6. Soto
7. Smith
8. Duran
9. Hamilton
10. Sappelt/Torreyes

Notes: Cozart and other gulys on mlb roster are not eligble to me. Unsigned players are not eligible for me. I know I am forgetting someone but I can not put my finger on who it is.

Yorman?

mace
07-12-2011, 11:12 AM
Hastily . . .

(Didn't include anyone not yet signed.)

1. Mesoraco
2. Cozart
3. Torreyes
4. Grandal
5. Hamilton
6. Sappelt
7. Yorman
8. Barnhart
9. Francisco
10. Alonso
11. Corcino
12. Frazier
13. Soto
14. Duran
15. Boxberger
16. Lotzkar
17. Sulbaran
18. Gregorius
19. Waldrop
20. Chacin

Strongly considered: Stalin Gerson, Brandon Dailey, Drew Hayes, Denis Phipps, Tony Cingrani, Jacob Johnson, Ismael Guillon, Josh Smith, Jeremy Horst, Henry Rodriguez, Elizier Beard.

Lightly considered: Sean Buckley, Josh Ravin, Nick O'Shea, David Vidal, Wandy Peralta, Junior Arias, Daryl Thompson, Daniel Renken, Carlos Ramos.

nemesis
07-12-2011, 11:14 AM
Mesoraco - Best C prospect in baseball
Grandal - Top 5 C prospect in baseball
Stevenson - TOR arm
Alonso - Top trade prospect
Boxberger - Future closer
Corcino - Cueto part 2
Hamilton - Raw but growing.
Lotzkar - Would be in AAA if he had stayed healthy all these years
Sappelt - Could solve 2 birds with one swipe. (LF - Lead-off)
Frazier - Power bat, ideal bench and role player
Soto - Becoming the top power prospect in the Minors
Chacin - AZL closer. Look up his numbers.
Rosa - Hamilton's potiential, Duran's bat.
Beard - AZL starter. Look up his numbers.
Duran - Need to make more contact and move to 1B
Torreyes - Raton is a beast.
H-Rod - Nice bat. Developing glove. IF utility type guy.
Barnhart - Plus D already
Yorman - Redsof72 has dampered my enthusiam.
Waldrop - Showing speed and pop.

wlf WV
07-12-2011, 11:28 AM
1st time posting here.I started reading this site after 4 or 5 years,last night .I read the ORG a few years before joining Sundeck,3 1/2 years ago.The Minors seem a great way to interact and keep up with posters that have a lot of knowledge.I have been unable to ask questions to posters whose opinion I valued,because of only Sundeck privileges.From what I've noticed ,make up (work habit,competitiveness) play almost or more ( at MLB level)of a bigger part of extended Mlb success.In other words ceiling and talent might get you to Mlb, but to excel,make up becomes very important; aka. Joey Votto.I was just wondering about the work habit and competitiveness of our prospects.I like Sappelt as a piece for the near future.I would like to see Doug or whoever is knowledgeable(as being new here I don't want to slight the others properly qualified) to give us a top 10 work habit and competitiveness from our prospects;not only ceiling and talent.

klw
07-12-2011, 11:30 AM
Yorman?

No I have soured a bit on him and would have placed him just outside my "ten"

mace
07-12-2011, 12:20 PM
1st time posting here.I started reading this site after 4 or 5 years,last night .I read the ORG a few years before joining Sundeck,3 1/2 years ago.The Minors seem a great way to interact and keep up with posters that have a lot of knowledge.I have been unable to ask questions to posters whose opinion I valued,because of only Sundeck privileges.From what I've noticed ,make up (work habit,competitiveness) play almost or more ( at MLB level)of a bigger part of extended Mlb success.In other words ceiling and talent might get you to Mlb, but to excel,make up becomes very important; aka. Joey Votto.I was just wondering about the work habit and competitiveness of our prospects.I like Sappelt as a piece for the near future.I would like to see Doug or whoever is knowledgeable(as being new here I don't want to slight the others properly qualified) to give us a top 10 work habit and competitiveness from our prospects;not only ceiling and talent.

That's a great point, and would be a good resource. Somebody like Doug has a lot more information about these guys than I do, but I know of a few players whose characters and work ethics have earned rave reviews over the years. Definitely Todd Frazier. Tucker Barnhart. Ronald Torreyes has been praised as a guy who really does things right, for his age. I think Mesoraco and Cozart are strong in those areas. Brandon Dailey. Jacob Johnson. On the flip side, the only top prospects whose makeups have been questioned, to my knowledge, are Yorman and Henry Rodriguez.

camisadelgolf
07-12-2011, 01:29 PM
1.) SP Kyle McCulloch
2.) P James Avery
3.) RP Aguido Gonzalez
4.) 1B Carlos Mendez
5.) C Chris Berset
6.) P Mike Henry
7.) RP Tim Hamulack
8.) C Jordan Wideman
9.) RP Doug Salinas
10.) RP Scott Gaffney
11.) IF Jose Castro
12.) UT Mike Griffin
13.) RP Ruben Medina
14.) RP Drew Bowman
15.) IF Jose Gualdron
16.) RP Tyree Hayes
17.) OF Wilfrel Estevez
18.) 2B Adam Muenster
19.) P Jason Braun
20.) 3B Frank Pfister

krm1580
07-12-2011, 02:07 PM
1. Mesoraco
2. Cozart
3. Grandal
4. Corcino
5. Alonso
6. Torreyes
7. Stephenson
8. Sappelt
9. Boxberger
10. Frazier

Coming into this season my hopes for our prospect were as follows:

1.) Frazier and Alonso would be flat out mashing and force their way onto the Reds or become significant trade chips.
2.) Mesoraco would prove last year was not a fluke.
3.) One of our high ceiling guys (Hamilton, Duran or Y-Rod) would break out.
4.) Some of our high ceiling pitchers (Lotzkar, Sulbaran, Gullion, Corcino or Correa) would break out.

So from my perspective coming into this season, its been kind of a disappointing year so far.

cinreds21
07-12-2011, 03:25 PM
I could help in any way.


And Cam, Castro should be higher.


Also, some people are not giving Box enough credit. Him being out of the top 10 is pretty bad.

The DARK
07-12-2011, 03:38 PM
I could help in any way.


And Cam, Castro should be higher.


Also, some people are not giving Box enough credit. Him being out of the top 10 is pretty bad.

If it weren't for breakout seasons by guys like Torreyes and Corcino, I'd have him in my top 10; there's not a whole lot of separation for me between Cozart and Francisco. I wish they'd kept him as a starter, but I love his future as a closer or setup guy at the very least.

cinreds21
07-12-2011, 04:02 PM
Yes, Corcino has done well, but to put him in front of someone who hasn't even signed yet is brutal to me.

Kc61
07-12-2011, 04:20 PM
14. Juan Francisco- 3B/LF (AAA)- Has nothing left to prove in the minors, hitting as well as all other prospects at that level; however, time spent in the majors indicates a possible stagnation into a AAAA power hitter.

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Please review Juan Francisco's major league trials over three seasons and let us know how he has possibly stagnated into a AAAA power hitter, having just turned 24 years of age.

Thank you.

dougdirt
07-12-2011, 04:52 PM
Also, some people are not giving Box enough credit. Him being out of the top 10 is pretty bad.

I am a huge Boxberger fan. Probably have more faith in him than just about anyone on here. I wouldn't put him in my top 10 right now. Just outside of it. The reasoning is simple.... He is a relief pitcher and their values just don't match that of even an average every day player or average every 5th day starter. In my opinion, even the best relief pitchers in minor league baseball aren't Top 100 prospects. If Aroldis Chapman were a relief pitcher for sure going into this year, regardless of the fact that he can throw a baseball harder than anyone alive, I wouldn't have put him in the Top 100 in all of baseball. Relievers just don't carry the same value to me as potential every day guys.

Kc61
07-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Not going to do a whole list, but I agree with those who have listed Mesoraco and Grandal as the top two prospects. I'd probably put Cozart third.

The ability to play a premium position and be a two-way player is so important. So catchers, shortstops, true centerfielders, who can hit and field are key. Along with pitching of course.

The DARK
07-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Please review Juan Francisco's major league trials over three seasons and let us know how he has possibly stagnated into a AAAA power hitter, having just turned 24 years of age.

Thank you.

I didn't mean that to be as harsh as I sounded, but I was referring to his more recent appearances (his 2009 work was admittedly impressive). He looked lost at the plate this season in the few at-bats he had, and his AAA numbers are close to identical to last year (though with an even lower walk rate). Like I said, there's not a whole lot of separation between Cozart and Francisco for me, but Francisco doesn't seem to be making the same forward strides that other AAA players have, so unfortunately he ends up at the bottom for me.

Kc61
07-12-2011, 05:17 PM
I didn't mean that to be as harsh as I sounded, but I was referring to his more recent appearances (his 2009 work was admittedly impressive). He looked lost at the plate this season in the few at-bats he had, and his AAA numbers are close to identical to last year (though with an even lower walk rate). Like I said, there's not a whole lot of separation between Cozart and Francisco for me, but Francisco doesn't seem to be making the same forward strides that other AAA players have, so unfortunately he ends up at the bottom for me.

Francisco had a slow start this year and got hurt. I thought he looked excellent in his last game with the Reds, in which he got a key hit and later was hurt. He had very few opportunities this year at the major league level. In the minors, he did fine until his recent injury. I know, he still doesn't walk much at the minor league levels.

I know that his star is dimmer now, particularly with all the injuries, but I have confidence that he can be a good major league hitter, at least against righty pitching.

I'm sure he will slide down most of the polls, but I view him as a better prospect than some who are rated higher.

What I find most interesting in the farm system now is the Dayton team. The Reds MUST make decisions on most of the AAA crowd very soon. Then we can all watch the Dayton guys move up the chain and see who emerges from that group.

Superdude
07-12-2011, 05:20 PM
1) Mesoraco- he’s good
2) Corcino- putting up great numbers and his upside is at least close to, if not equal to Stephenson.
3) Grandal- would like to see him outside of Bakersfield for a while, but looks like another plus bat behind the plate
4) Alonso- plate discipline should make for an easy transition to the show. A tick more power in the second half would be nice.
5) Stephenson- tons of upside
6) Cozart- probably wouldn’t be this high elsewhere, but there’s something to be said for pro caliber skills ready to contribute for six years.
7) Yorman- plenty of bust potential, but the most likely of the young guys at Dayton to have that “click” moment IMO.
8) Sappelt- less power, but possibly a better overall hitter than Heisey. Another guy to throw into the left field mix.
9) Boxberger- limited value in the pen, but should be pitching some high leverage innings in the near future
10) Frazier- I feel like he’s the next Cozart if Rolen can’t turn things around at some point. Showing impressive power
11) Soto- Kind of the anti-Alonso now. Showing huge power so far, but plate discipline is still suspect.
12) Sulbaran- frequently shows dominating ability and is still young. Overlooked pitcher IMO
13) Torreyes- cant really ignore him anymore. Elite contact ability, good defense, and showing some surprising pop.
14) Duran- strikeouts are alarming and I don’t expect him to put it together overnight, but showing signs of progress along with enormous raw power
15) Hamilton- speed is great. the rest of his game is just so rough
16) Guillon- horrible start so far, but looks like another high upside young arm
17) Francisco- looking like a cautionary tale to kids who think walks don’t matter. I’d like to see him in the pros somewhere just out of curiosity, but not for us.
18) Junior Arias- another rough start, but scouts were all over him last year
19) Sean Buckley- hard to know what we have yet, but size and power is always a nice start.
20) Gabriel Rosa- more of a hunch here than anything, but his draft video looks frickin nasty

The DARK
07-12-2011, 05:30 PM
Francisco had a slow start this year and got hurt. I thought he looked excellent in his last game with the Reds, in which he got a key hit and later was hurt. He had very few opportunities this year at the major league level. In the minors, he did fine until his recent injury. I know, he still doesn't walk much at the minor league levels.

I know that his star is dimmer now, particularly with all the injuries, but I have confidence that he can be a good major league hitter, at least against righty pitching.

I'm sure he will slide down most of the polls, but I view him as a better prospect than some who are rated higher.

What I find most interesting in the farm system now is the Dayton team. The Reds MUST make decisions on most of the AAA crowd very soon. Then we can all watch the Dayton guys move up the chain and see who emerges from that group.

Agreed. That's one reason I'm heavily in favor of a trade for Jiminez... we need to do something with these prospects instead of letting them linger for too long in AAA. Look at what's happened with Valaika; there's no reason to waste this value.

Benihana
07-12-2011, 06:44 PM
1) Mesoraco- he’s good
2) Corcino- putting up great numbers and his upside is at least close to, if not equal to Stephenson.
3) Grandal- would like to see him outside of Bakersfield for a while, but looks like another plus bat behind the plate
4) Alonso- plate discipline should make for an easy transition to the show. A tick more power in the second half would be nice.
5) Stephenson- tons of upside
6) Cozart- probably wouldn’t be this high elsewhere, but there’s something to be said for pro caliber skills ready to contribute for six years.
7) Yorman- plenty of bust potential, but the most likely of the young guys at Dayton to have that “click” moment IMO.
8) Sappelt- less power, but possibly a better overall hitter than Heisey. Another guy to throw into the left field mix.
9) Boxberger- limited value in the pen, but should be pitching some high leverage innings in the near future
10) Frazier- I feel like he’s the next Cozart if Rolen can’t turn things around at some point. Showing impressive power
11) Soto- Kind of the anti-Alonso now. Showing huge power so far, but plate discipline is still suspect.
12) Sulbaran- frequently shows dominating ability and is still young. Overlooked pitcher IMO
13) Torreyes- cant really ignore him anymore. Elite contact ability, good defense, and showing some surprising pop.
14) Duran- strikeouts are alarming and I don’t expect him to put it together overnight, but showing signs of progress along with enormous raw power
15) Hamilton- speed is great. the rest of his game is just so rough
16) Guillon- horrible start so far, but looks like another high upside young arm
17) Francisco- looking like a cautionary tale to kids who think walks don’t matter. I’d like to see him in the pros somewhere just out of curiosity, but not for us.
18) Junior Arias- another rough start, but scouts were all over him last year
19) Sean Buckley- hard to know what we have yet, but size and power is always a nice start.
20) Gabriel Rosa- more of a hunch here than anything, but his draft video looks frickin nasty

Couple things I'd change, but this looks like the best list I've seen so far, or at least closest to mine anyway. I might bring Yorman closer together to the other Dayton hitters, and add a guy like Barnhart before Buckley, but overall this seems pretty good.

Couple other guys I'd place closer together would be Stephenson and Corcino, Sappelt and Alonso (although I prefer Alonso), and Guillon and Sulbaran.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-12-2011, 11:13 PM
I'm not trying to knock Francisco, but I don't really even look at him as a big time prospect anymore. I think Superdude has it right with him at #17. I agree with his comment on him too.

Edit to add that I love superdude's top 5. Totally agree. My top 20 is coming tomorrow.

Blitz Dorsey
07-12-2011, 11:53 PM
I've been trying to keep close tabs on this and here's my stab at it:

1. Devin Mesoraco – C
2. Yonder Alonso – 1B/LF
3. Yasmani Grandal – C
4. Zack Cozart – SS
5. Yorman Rodriguez – CF
6. Juan Francisco – 3B
7. Brad Boxberger – RHP
8. Dave Sappelt – OF
9. Billy Hamilton – SS/2B
10. Todd Frazier – 3B/LF
11. Robert Stephenson – RHP
12. Daniel Corcino – RHP
13. Juan Duran – OF
14. Neftali Soto – 1B
15. Ronald Torreyes – 2B
16. Josh Smith – RHP
17. Drew Hayes – RHP
18. Ismeal Guillon – LHP
19. Ryan LaMarre – OF
20. Tony Cingrani – LHP

EDIT: Others Receiving Votes (in order): Kyle Lotzkar, Tucker Barnhart, Gabriel Rosa, Josh Fellhauer, Sean Buckley, Kyle Waldrop, Henry Rodriguez, David Vidal, Stephen Hunt, Daniel Renken, Alejandro Chacin.

Scrap Irony
07-14-2011, 03:40 PM
1. Devin Mesoraco C (AAA)
Best catching prospect in Cincinnati since Johnny Bench. Offensive power could mean he's the cleanup hitter the Reds need desperately.
2. Yasmani Grandal C (AA)
If not for Mesoraco, Redszone would be up in arms over Grandal, who's shown more at the lower level than did Mesoraco. The combination of the two is icing on the cake at this point.
3. Daniel Corcino SP (A)
A young Johnny Cueto? Yes, please.
4. Dave Sappelt CF/LF (AAA)
Power is underrated. He could play CF right now for half the teams in baseball. A possible All-Star up the middle with monster numbers for two years now. Problematic injuries keep him this low.
5. Yonder Alonso 1B/LF (AAA)
Looks like a Sean Casey clone to me. That's not bad at all-- but it's not a top prospect at 1B either.
6. Billy Hamilton SS (A)
Major problems early this season with the advanced level, but his bat is coming around. Speed is for real and glove-- though raw-- looks to be solid to Gold Glove level, as his range and arm flash well above average.
7. Yorman Rodriguez CF (A)
Yonder is in the same boat as Slidin' Billy, but without the world class speed. His power might play, but his attitude is reportedly a problem. Worrisome, to say the least.
8. Ronald Torreyes 2B (A)
All he does is hit. And field. And hit with surprising power. Great scouting reports and statistics show well. Small sample size, but all reports look promising.
9. Zack Cozart SS (AAA)
Looks great so far in Cincinnati, but not that good. Will play very good defense and show very good pop. Nice value for this low in the rankings.
10. Juan Francisco 3B (AAA)
Francisco is what he is-- a masher that plays below average defensively and won't walk very much. He'd be a monster bat if used properly. Still very young.
11. Todd Frazier IF/OF (AAA)
Could be flipped with Francisco, but he's older. Love the versatility and the power. Should be in the majors now.
12. Brad Boxberger RP (AAA)
Best season by a Red pitcher in the minor league, IMO. Has a closer-type arm and stuff. Looks like he might be ready as early as September.
13. Juan Duran RF (A)
Moved up in the rankings, but position and K rate are problems that need to be addressed. Still, should be in Billings at best. Nice season so far.
14. Neftali Soto 1B (AA)
Before you question the ranking, look at his numbers. Then remember his wrist and hamate bone injuries. This is how a 1B is supposed to hit.
15. Tucker Brandhardt C (A)
Love the youth and offensive prowess at such a tender age. Already a very good defensive catcher that also looks like he might be able to hit. Three pretty monster catching prospects at three levels.
16. Josh Smith SP (A)
Old for his level, but those numbers look great. Stuff doesn't seem too bad either, though you could say that about many Red pitchers.
17. Donnie Joseph RP (AA)
Really poor numbers this season, but I see that slider and think he could be useful as either a set-up guy or a middle reliever.
18. Sean Buckley 3B (R)
Nice combination of power and hit stick. A little old for the level, but a move to Dayton next season could cement Buckley as the heir apparent at the hot corner. One to watch, certainly.
19. Henry Rodriguez 2B (AA)
Has a 900 OPS as a 2B. 'Nuff said.
20. Kyle Lotzkar SP (A)
Still has that arm. Still has those injury questions. Still in my Top 20.

Blitz Dorsey
07-14-2011, 05:02 PM
1. Devin Mesoraco C (AAA)
Best catching prospect in Cincinnati since Johnny Bench. Offensive power could mean he's the cleanup hitter the Reds need desperately.
2. Yasmani Grandal C (AA)
If not for Mesoraco, Redszone would be up in arms over Grandal, who's shown more at the lower level than did Mesoraco. The combination of the two is icing on the cake at this point.
3. Daniel Corcino SP (A)
A young Johnny Cueto? Yes, please.
4. Dave Sappelt CF/LF (AAA)
Power is underrated. He could play CF right now for half the teams in baseball. A possible All-Star up the middle with monster numbers for two years now. Problematic injuries keep him this low.
5. Yonder Alonso 1B/LF (AAA)
Looks like a Sean Casey clone to me. That's not bad at all-- but it's not a top prospect at 1B either.
6. Billy Hamilton SS (A)
Major problems early this season with the advanced level, but his bat is coming around. Speed is for real and glove-- though raw-- looks to be solid to Gold Glove level, as his range and arm flash well above average.
7. Yorman Rodriguez CF (A)
Yonder is in the same boat as Slidin' Billy, but without the world class speed. His power might play, but his attitude is reportedly a problem. Worrisome, to say the least.
8. Ronald Torreyes 2B (A)
All he does is hit. And field. And hit with surprising power. Great scouting reports and statistics show well. Small sample size, but all reports look promising.
9. Zack Cozart SS (AAA)
Looks great so far in Cincinnati, but not that good. Will play very good defense and show very good pop. Nice value for this low in the rankings.
10. Juan Francisco 3B (AAA)
Francisco is what he is-- a masher that plays below average defensively and won't walk very much. He'd be a monster bat if used properly. Still very young.
11. Todd Frazier IF/OF (AAA)
Could be flipped with Francisco, but he's older. Love the versatility and the power. Should be in the majors now.
12. Brad Boxberger RP (AAA)
Best season by a Red pitcher in the minor league, IMO. Has a closer-type arm and stuff. Looks like he might be ready as early as September.
13. Juan Duran RF (A)
Moved up in the rankings, but position and K rate are problems that need to be addressed. Still, should be in Billings at best. Nice season so far.
14. Neftali Soto 1B (AA)
Before you question the ranking, look at his numbers. Then remember his wrist and hamate bone injuries. This is how a 1B is supposed to hit.
15. Tucker Brandhardt C (A)
Love the youth and offensive prowess at such a tender age. Already a very good defensive catcher that also looks like he might be able to hit. Three pretty monster catching prospects at three levels.
16. Josh Smith SP (A)
Old for his level, but those numbers look great. Stuff doesn't seem too bad either, though you could say that about many Red pitchers.
17. Donnie Joseph RP (AA)
Really poor numbers this season, but I see that slider and think he could be useful as either a set-up guy or a middle reliever.
18. Sean Buckley 3B (R)
Nice combination of power and hit stick. A little old for the level, but a move to Dayton next season could cement Buckley as the heir apparent at the hot corner. One to watch, certainly.
19. Henry Rodriguez 2B (AA)
Has a 900 OPS as a 2B. 'Nuff said.
20. Kyle Lotzkar SP (A)
Still has that arm. Still has those injury questions. Still in my Top 20.

Your Soto ranking is awful. You ask for others not to criticize it, but I can't help it.

:D

BuckeyeRedleg
07-14-2011, 09:48 PM
Nice list, Scrap.

I would maybe move Duran up and Francisco down a bit, but overall very nice. I don't have a problem at all with Soto jumping back into big time prospect status. He's having a great year in AA and still very young. He might even be top 10 before the year is finished.